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Tech and Homebrew => Turbo/PCE Game/Tool Development => Topic started by: BigusSchmuck on December 03, 2011, 02:58:50 PM
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So I got to thinking last night when I was playing Wizardry IV for the billionth time, why in the world have people not translated the rest of the text in those games? I mean, the english is already there, can't be too much hacking involved and they are basically supped up ports of the pc versions! Dunno, it was just something I was curious about seeing how Rondo of Blood got translated from the PSP remake. I also noticed something too (and maybe Arkahan can elaborate) loading times seem to be a little less with the arcade card in my Duo-R...
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I don't think Wizardry III/IV supports the arcade card. Are you sure you're not just seeing things? lol
I suppose if they wrote some really jazzy loading code that checked how much RAM is available before loading, it would mean they could stuff more useful stuff in, and as a result not need to load as much over and over?
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I didn't think it did neither, but it seems to run a little bit better. Damn game still takes up all my duo memory though....
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So I got to thinking last night when I was playing Wizardry IV for the billionth time, why in the world have people not translated the rest of the text in those games?
I imagine it has entirely to do with that English speakers are largely ignorant of Wizardry existing outside of Nintendo and the PC.
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I imagine it has entirely to do with that English speakers are largely ignorant of Wizardry existing outside of Nintendo and the PC.
Well duh. those are the platforms the games released on here. What did you expect? Lol
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Except for Wizardry 4 was never released on the consoles over here. I don't think 3 was neither, so there is your incentive! Although it did come out for the PC-9801...
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:D Maybe.
but when they came out, consoles weren't really taking off yet, lol.
Wizardry 3 was like pre NES!
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But it looks damn good on the PCE. I forgot there was a Super Famicom release of 1-3 (and some "elite" rom hacker group translated it in the late 90s), but it looks nowhere near as good as the PCE version. I dunno, its about as close as we are going to get as a remake for these games. Wizardry Gold Edition just didn't do enough justice.
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yeah.
The PCE versions of these games really are the high points of them all, honestly.
Too bad we didn't see 6 or 7 on PCE.
:)
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By 6 or 7 was the series still any good?
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By 6 or 7 was the series still any good?
Yeah, still fun. But 4 is definitely my favorite out of them all. 8 comes in a close second while 7 comes in third. If anything, we should have a contest on who can finish Wizardry 4 the fastest with the best ending. Its a hard game even on the pce with all the enhancements like monsters leveling up, bribing Trebor and the ability to replenish your monsters as in the original game you had to go to the pentagram and re-summon them. However, it would even be more playable if the rest of the game had English inserted where there was Japanese. I mean, come on now, when I see on the front page of romhacking.net that people are still hacking Final Fantasy games instead of spending time doing stuff that hasn't been released in the U.S just irritates me. End of Rant on that one. ^^ At any rate, I wonder if that tool that was used on Rondo of Blood to insert english works for any other pc engine cd games?
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They haven't released a bad wizardry game to date.
Every one of them including the latest one on PS3, is excellent.
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They haven't released a bad wizardry game to date.
Every one of them including the latest one on PS3, is excellent.
Didn't realize they made a Wizardry game for the PS3, I thought it was basically done with after Wizardry 8 and only Japanese releases went on after that! Thats a bit of good news then. ^^ Still, you would think with these newer Wizardry games it would kindle interest in translating the ones we haven't seen here in the U.S....
Edit: Even for the Iphone too? Sweet! Too bad I don't have a Iphone though...
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I imagine it has entirely to do with that English speakers are largely ignorant of Wizardry existing outside of Nintendo and the PC.
Well duh. those are the platforms the games released on here. What did you expect? Lol
Yes the internet did not always exist unfortunately 8) :P
And yes, please go download the new Wizardry on PS3 if possible!
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They haven't released a bad wizardry game to date.
Every one of them including the latest one on PS3, is excellent.
Didn't realize they made a Wizardry game for the PS3, I thought it was basically done with after Wizardry 8 and only Japanese releases went on after that! Thats a bit of good news then. ^^ Still, you would think with these newer Wizardry games it would kindle interest in translating the ones we haven't seen here in the U.S....
Edit: Even for the Iphone too? Sweet! Too bad I don't have a Iphone though...
Yeah, after Sirtech bit the sack, Atlus published Tale of the Forsaken Land for PS2. It was incredible, to say the least. Definitely one of the best games I played for PS2. This year marks Wizardry's 30'th anniversary, and they are calling it the Wizardry Renaissance.
The latest game, Labyrinth of Lost Souls was released on physical disc in Japan, and download only here.
My best explanation for this is: American gamers are stupid pussies now.
The game wouldn't sell well on disc here. Everyones too sissy pansy about games, and want foofoo spoonfed Zelda bullshit.
That Dark Spire game they released a few years back kicked ass, and most people that played it cried themselves to sleep in the 3rd hallway.
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It probably would if it was on Steam and had all the Steam crap all over it. It sounds like I got a lot of catching up to do.
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Definitely give the new one a shot. Best 15$ I spent on the PSN ever. And I buy a ton of dumb shit on there!
Tale of the Forsaken Land was a sleeper hit. I remember when I got it, I literally could not stop playing it and none of my friends had any goddamn clue what I was talking about.
Then they watch me playing it and are like oh wow. They all went out to buy it.
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I agree... If you haven't played Tale of the Forsaken Land, you're really missing out. I've been meaning to buy it for a while now, hope it not too expensive on ebay.
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They haven't released a bad wizardry game to date.
Every one of them including the latest one on PS3, is excellent.
Didn't realize they made a Wizardry game for the PS3, I thought it was basically done with after Wizardry 8 and only Japanese releases went on after that! Thats a bit of good news then. ^^ Still, you would think with these newer Wizardry games it would kindle interest in translating the ones we haven't seen here in the U.S....
Edit: Even for the Iphone too? Sweet! Too bad I don't have a Iphone though...
Yeah, after Sirtech bit the sack, Atlus published Tale of the Forsaken Land for PS2. It was incredible, to say the least. Definitely one of the best games I played for PS2. This year marks Wizardry's 30'th anniversary, and they are calling it the Wizardry Renaissance.
The latest game, Labyrinth of Lost Souls was released on physical disc in Japan, and download only here.
My best explanation for this is: American gamers are stupid pussies now.
The game wouldn't sell well on disc here. Everyones too sissy pansy about games, and want foofoo spoonfed Zelda bullshit.
That Dark Spire game they released a few years back kicked ass, and most people that played it cried themselves to sleep in the 3rd hallway.
I picked up the dark spire a few weeks ago, havent played it yet. I always wanted to play the ps2 wizardy game, but i havent been able to find a copy
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I had the PS2 one, but I loaned it to a friend and his dumbass brother sold it for pot.
Now, I haven't replaced it. :-/
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^ thats a shame
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Ah, Wizardry! I still remember as a kid, watching my dad fumble around in Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant. We never got very far, but we had fun.
When I heard about the new Wizardry for the PS3 being released here (God bless you, XSeed!), I snatched it up. I haven't played it much lately, but it's a ton of fun if you're into dungeon crawlers.
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Dark Savant was frigging BRUTAL.
But, it was also a great game.
Wizardry 8 was another sweet purchase. 19.99 at EB!
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I'm willing to bet we can get some of those later Wizardry games working on the pce if we started to use the arcade card... I remember being able to run Wizardry 8 on a old Pentium 2, but that game just may be too advanced to port over, so I'm down with getting Wizardry 6-7 ported if we can find the source code for it..
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wizardry 8 is impossible to port. it uses 3D models and a 3D rendered world, lol.
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wizardry 8 is impossible to port. it uses 3D models and a 3D rendered world, lol.
True dat, but I can't see why we can't get 6 and 7 though.
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Those are doable. 7 would require a bit of insanity. But, if M&M 3 happened, Wizardry 7 can too.
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But Arky, don't you specialize in Insanity?
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This is true.