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NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Discussion => Topic started by: Bernie on January 08, 2012, 10:23:39 AM
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Ok, so I am looking over my copy of Xanadu, and I notice very small fine print below the title on the manual. It appears to say, "Original Role Playing Game Dragon Slayer VIII" I am fairly new to imports, just started getting into them this past year or so, and would like some info on this if someone knows. Does this series tie into Dragon Slayer somehow? :?:
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Yeah, and it's an extremely complicated story.
http://hardcoregaming101.net/dragonslayer/dragonslayer.htm
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Very nice!! Thanks!
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Sure thing. Actually, I wonder if they removed some information from that article since the last time I read it. I seem to remember them mentioning the PCE Dragons Slayers somewhere, sometime. Hmm.
Anyway, as you can see, there are an enormous number of games that fall under the "Dragon Slayer" series title. As for how much they're really connected, well, it's up to you to decide, I guess. :)
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Imagine if Dragon Slayer was a big magazine, with differnt stories, and the publisher was Falcom. The original story was called Dragon Slayer, but that had other stories that continued and took place in the same world. Like Dragon Slayer Issues, 1-19. Yes it is a childish way of thinking.
"RPG's are only successfull thanks to the comic industry"
That is why you are playing that game right now.
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And the Legend of Heroes series branched off into it's own series, & now it's looking like the Kiseki/Trails games of the Legend of Heroes series, is branching off into IT's own series, as the latest announced game doesn't include the Eiyuu Densetsu/Legend of Heroes in it's title :D
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My brain hurts just trying to follow Falcom's "family tree" of titles (under the loose umbrella of "Dragon Slayer").
And then there are the spin-offs that other companies created...
FAXANADU!
I love Faxanadu, though it admittedly has flaws. Hudson did a decent job with Ys IV and Faxanadu, IMO.
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I just picked up a copy of Legend of Xanadu and am really looking forward to diving into it. Any advice for a non-Japanese speaker?
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Any advice for a non-Japanese speaker?
Learn Japanese? :P
No, I am sure there are some good walkthroughs for that game somewhere on the world wide web :)
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I just picked up a copy of Legend of Xanadu and am really looking forward to diving into it. Any advice for a non-Japanese speaker?
There are Japanese walkthroughs for LoX that you can translate, but LoX has very gaijin-unfriendly, convoluted progression. You spend each chapter running back and forth across a map talking to specific people at specific times and doing very specific things. The game is also long. Legend of Xanadu II is much easier for non-Japanese speakers, there`s an English walkthrough for it and it isn`t too long.
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Basically they are all Dragon Slayer because of an In house reason.
The only other series that is not DSlayer is
Y's
Popful
that I know of, However Y's and Popfull all have traits and gameplay of Dragon Slayer series. They all are the same game, basically. Think of it like a trail and error process, or like how Dragon Ball artist characters from his other comics just magically appears somewhere in the backdrop, and his most popular characters appears in an episode somewhere.
At some point they wanted to make their series into a commercial series, instead of a DAD, spin off.
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They all are the same game, basically.
Not....even....close.
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Your so intellegent then you make logic sense of it???
The way I see, it is that Falcom had a thing, they came up with some ideas and it actually worked. What is Y's and popful mail really?
Popful mail gameplay is basically the original DSlayer but without gigantic mazes, and battle sequences. Y's is just Dslayer, but for some reason they decided not to tie him into the DSlyer world and give him a little island in the middle of nowhere.
All I know about Dragon Slayer, is the new games is not really slayer along with new Y's. Falcom is digging deep into it's fanbox.
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Basically they are all Dragon Slayer because of an In house reason.
The only other series that is not DSlayer is
Y's
Popful
that I know of
You obviously know very little. Ever hear of games like Brandish, Vantage Master, Zwei, or Gurumin?
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Your so intellegent then you make logic sense of it???
The way I see, it is that Falcom had a thing, they came up with some ideas and it actually worked. What is Y's and popful mail really?
Popful mail gameplay is basically the original DSlayer but without gigantic mazes, and battle sequences. Y's is just Dslayer, but for some reason they decided not to tie him into the DSlyer world and give him a little island in the middle of nowhere.
All I know about Dragon Slayer, is the new games is not really slayer along with new Y's. Falcom is digging deep into it's fanbox.
I have a difficult time understanding your posts. Dragon Slayer is a menu based RPG, Ys is an action RPG?
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Your so intellegent then you make logic sense of it???
The way I see, it is that Falcom had a thing, they came up with some ideas and it actually worked. What is Y's and popful mail really?
Popful mail gameplay is basically the original DSlayer but without gigantic mazes, and battle sequences. Y's is just Dslayer, but for some reason they decided not to tie him into the DSlyer world and give him a little island in the middle of nowhere.
All I know about Dragon Slayer, is the new games is not really slayer along with new Y's. Falcom is digging deep into it's fanbox.
I have a difficult time understanding your posts. Dragon Slayer is a menu based RPG, Ys is an action RPG?
Sadler, stop being logical and reasonable :)
I think what RegalSin is saying is that many (or nearly all) of Falcom's titles can be classified as "video games". If you paint with broad strokes and (over)generalize...
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Y's
If you put an apostrophe (') in the Ys title one more time, I will have you banished from the internet.
The games are all part of the "Dragon Slayer" series.
It is the parent. The top of the tree. Everything is a "Dragon Slayer" game in some form.
then branching off of it there were the Legend of Heroes games. Dragon Slayer VI was the first, and now we have lots of the LOH branch.
Legend of Xanadu is basically a branch off of DS II (Xanadu).
It's all connected somehow, to Dragon slayer, the original game.
Theres the main line of games, and some of them have sub games.
That's all there is to it.
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Your so intellegent then you make logic sense of it???
The way I see, it is that Falcom had a thing, they came up with some ideas and it actually worked. What is Y's and popful mail really?
Popful mail gameplay is basically the original DSlayer but without gigantic mazes, and battle sequences. Y's is just Dslayer, but for some reason they decided not to tie him into the DSlyer world and give him a little island in the middle of nowhere.
All I know about Dragon Slayer, is the new games is not really slayer along with new Y's. Falcom is digging deep into it's fanbox.
I have a difficult time understanding your posts. Dragon Slayer is a menu based RPG, Ys is an action RPG?
Sadler, stop being logical and reasonable :)
I think what RegalSin is saying is that many (or nearly all) of Falcom's titles can be classified as "video games". If you paint with broad strokes and (over)generalize...
:lol:
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I have a difficult time understanding your posts. Dragon Slayer is a menu based RPG, Ys is an action RPG?
Picture in your head, after awhile Falcom realized they should be commercializing their RPG to the public, instead of creating an RPG atmosphere. Y's and Popful Mail are both born of commercial desire instead of being your usually shut in, lets roll the dice type game.
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
Yeah. That's what I was going to say. The Turbo Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes is not the original Dragon Slayer. Most of the games in the DS series are action RPG's.
Really, we should more correctly refer to the Turbo/PCE games as "Legend of Heroes", not "Dragon Slayer". Legend of Heroes branched off to its own, long-running series, which also happens to be at a peak in its popularity presently in Japan.
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
Yeah. That's what I was going to say. The Turbo Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes is not the original Dragon Slayer. Most of the games in the DS series are action RPG's.
Really, we should more correctly refer to the Turbo/PCE games as "Legend of Heroes", not "Dragon Slayer". Legend of Heroes branched off to its own, long-running series, which also happens to be at a peak in its popularity presently in Japan.
...but "Dragon Slayer" sounds so much kooler than "Legend of Heroes"! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
Yeah. That's what I was going to say. The Turbo Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes is not the original Dragon Slayer. Most of the games in the DS series are action RPG's.
Really, we should more correctly refer to the Turbo/PCE games as "Legend of Heroes", not "Dragon Slayer". Legend of Heroes branched off to its own, long-running series, which also happens to be at a peak in its popularity presently in Japan.
LoH branched off from the PCE games as well and the "Dragon Slayer" logo is printed in HUGE font all over the PCE games with a tiny font used for "Legend of Heroes". Since they're the only DS/LoH games for Turbo/PCE, there's no need to call them anything but "Dragon Slayer", unless someone is the type to insist on only referring to the Legend of Xanadu games as "Dragon Slayer VIII & IX".
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
For what its worth, almost none of these games have the slightest f*cking thing to do with each other.
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... the "Dragon Slayer" logo is printed in HUGE font all over the PCE games with a tiny font used for "Legend of Heroes".
The PCE versions say 英雄伝説 in larger font than "Dragon Slayer". They screwed up on the Turbo CD cover. It's a misprint. :-" So, no, they are Legend of Heroes I and II before they are Dragon Slayer.
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... the "Dragon Slayer" logo is printed in HUGE font all over the PCE games with a tiny font used for "Legend of Heroes".
The PCE versions say 英雄伝説 in larger font than "Dragon Slayer". They screwed up on the Turbo CD cover. It's a misprint. :-" So, no, they are Legend of Heroes I and II before they are Dragon Slayer.
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For what it's worth, the original Dragon Slayer is an action RPG.
Ys games used to have Ys gameplay.
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Whoops. Only checked the cover for the second one before posting that. Yeah, let's just ignore that cover. It's stupid anyway. They fixed the naming convention for the second one.