Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 25, 2012, 08:37:00 AM
I would buy the Dingoo A320 based on the name alone.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Ji-L87 on January 25, 2012, 08:37:04 AM
I think they should've made it more AES-ish. That's just too square & boring for me. Also, fingerprints.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Necromancer on January 25, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
I was just joking about the Dingoo, though this thing does look a lot like one. Kinda like if they stretched one to make it wider and swapped the d-pad for an analogue nubbin.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: guyjin on January 25, 2012, 09:02:39 AM
why does it have shoulder buttons?
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: nectarsis on January 25, 2012, 09:08:19 AM
One would assume it would be for the games that need more than the 4 face buttons.
Those games don't exist.
I wasn't sure if any of the latter/"post system life" games needed any extra buttons. #-o Ok I'll go with dedicated turbo/combo buttons :wink:
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Chuplayer on January 25, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I recognize all of the possible flaws, and I'm not a big fan of the 20 game lineup, but despite all that, I still feel like this inside when I see this new bit of Neo Geo hardware...
(http://sadpanda.us/images/674323-MZSGQ89.gif)
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: RegalSin on January 25, 2012, 10:23:40 AM
As long as it is not widescreen. I like seing the bars on top and bottom. It makes more sense, because that is how it looks in the teather.
That thing is useless, but it is better then buying anything from nintendo or sony :dance:
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: HercTNT on January 25, 2012, 11:46:13 AM
I dont get the sarcasm for the dingoo that i have seen in these forums. Unless you own one, you cant really judge the system. I own one and they are capable of considerably more than you would imagine, considering they came out in 2008 . Neo geo games run just fine on them and look great. You dont have to run them in widescreen widescreen either. the emulators are configurable you know, just like on the pc. I modded my dingoo with a larger external battery for long life, a heatsink for overclocking, and a hand grip comparable to the playstation 2 controller.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 25, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
I think they should've made it more AES-ish. That's just too square & boring for me. Also, fingerprints.
...what? This think is extremely SNK-correct, IMO. They nailed the aesthetic almost perfectly, even down to the fake CF originally used on the NGP. The logo is perfect, the joystick looks (I said, "looks") perfect. It's black.
Too square and boring? More like an AES? The AES is literally just a black square slab with a power switch on it. It could hardly be more boring. The most interesting thing about an AES is whatever cart is sticking out of it, and that's why it's so cool. There is no time for chrome badges and rainbow buttons when you are Pro Gear Spec!
That being said, there is still a LOT of room to f*ck this thing up. The price could be stupid, the emulation terrible, the screen shit, the release date a lie...lots could go wrong. Everything we see so far, almost nothing, looks rad as hell.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on January 25, 2012, 12:29:40 PM
I think they should've made it more AES-ish. That's just too square & boring for me. Also, fingerprints.
...what? This think is extremely SNK-correct, IMO. They nailed the aesthetic almost perfectly, even down to the fake CF originally used on the NGP. The logo is perfect, the joystick looks (I said, "looks") perfect. It's black.
Too square and boring? More like an AES? The AES is literally just a black square slab with a power switch on it. It could hardly be more boring. The most interesting thing about an AES is whatever cart is sticking out of it, and that's why it's so cool. There is no time for chrome badges and rainbow buttons when you are Pro Gear Spec!
That being said, there is still a LOT of room to f*ck this thing up. The price could be stupid, the emulation terrible, the screen shit, the release date a lie...lots could go wrong. Everything we see so far, almost nothing, looks rad as hell.
Indeed, I don't see the problem with it's looks. It seems like a Neo Geo system to me by how it looks, it's maybe just a little modernized.
Will I buy it? Hell yes, as long as it's not messed up as Zeta stated with price, emulation, screen problems, etc.
Question, did any of the Atomsware/Playmore games use more then 4 buttons? I'm not as familiar with the newer Neo Geo games.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 25, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
If its on Atomiswave then it isn't Neo Geo. Atomiswave is a completely seperate system based on the Naomi/Deamcast. All Neo Geo games use four buttons because they all fit in universal cabs and were sold as home carts with zero modification to the ROM. The only exception to this that I can think of are some mahjongg games and The Irritating Maze.
I don't think this little sucker can emulate Atomiswave. Maybe it can...but I doubt it. The Atomiswave has a 64bit 200mhz CPU and a 128 bit GPU running at...I forget. Some shit like that. It's literally thousands of times more powerful than a Neo.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Chuplayer on January 25, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
Question, did any of the Atomsware/Playmore games use more then 4 buttons? I'm not as familiar with the newer Neo Geo games.
The Atomiswave standard is 5 buttons. KOF NeoWave used all 5 buttons, too. The fifth one was some sort of overdrive/combo/gimmick thing that I didn't like.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 25, 2012, 02:29:50 PM
The only game I've played on an actual Atomiswave was Demolish Fist. I quite liked it.
I played KOF Neowave on PS2. It was shite.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Samurai Ghost on January 25, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Seems cool, but looks almost EXACTLY like an iPhone 4. I'd probably buy it if it was in the $200-$300 range and wasn't a complete failure. And if it could be hacked.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: KiddoCabbusses on January 25, 2012, 02:35:22 PM
Some silly part of me was actually hoping this would have more NeoGeo Pocket goodness as opposed to NeoGeo arcade.
I'm probably particularly weird for nostalgiaing over the portable so much, but it's just the game library was one of the best a portable system could ever be blessed with, and it's among the few handhelds that fell hard to the Game Boy that I genuinely wish had beat them.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: TheClash603 on January 25, 2012, 04:16:52 PM
Seems cool, but looks almost EXACTLY like an iPhone 4. I'd probably buy it if it was in the $200-$300 range and wasn't a complete failure. And if it could be hacked.
For some reason I think that the max price on this thing should be $100? This is pretty basic tech at this point, so I don't see how anything over a $100 price tag could be justified? Especially if it is just playing Neo Geo games, doesn't need to have any amazing processing power or anything.
If they nail the circle pad, then I'd love to get my hands on one of these.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Samurai Ghost on January 25, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Yeah, I agree, but we're talking about a piece of SNK hardware here. They aren't known to be reasonable as far as pricing goes.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: ccovell on January 25, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
This looks almost exactly like a Dingoo... which emulates Neo-Geo almost perfectly already (low sampling rate tho). I'd be buggered if this isn't the same hardware as the other, next-gen Dingoo clones out there (Yinlips, etc.) If they don't make the sampling rate higher than 11Khz on something that carries the SNK name, then it really isn't worth buying.
Oh, and if it doesn't support 2P games somehow, then the whole point of a Neo portable goes out the window (for fighting fans.)
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 25, 2012, 06:18:35 PM
Seems cool, but looks almost EXACTLY like an iPhone 4. I'd probably buy it if it was in the $200-$300 range and wasn't a complete failure. And if it could be hacked.
For some reason I think that the max price on this thing should be $100? This is pretty basic tech at this point, so I don't see how anything over a $100 price tag could be justified? Especially if it is just playing Neo Geo games, doesn't need to have any amazing processing power or anything.
If they nail the circle pad, then I'd love to get my hands on one of these.
I don't want a $100 version of this. It would be a piece of shit. I'm not interested in this thing because I want some gimmicky clone piece of crap to leave on a shelf forever, I want to actually play it. I want the stick to be as good as the NGP one, and the screen to be as good as a PSP.
The iPhone outsells basically everything in the world, and it still costs $700. The only reason you can buy one for $200 is because of carrier kick-backs. The only reason you can buy a PSP for $150 is because its more than 5 years old. The only reason you can buy a 3DS for $170 is because Nintendo is counting on software sales. This thing has none of those things going for it so unless its expensive its going to have to be capsule toy-grade, in which case I don't even want it.
And yeah, it does look like a iPhone. Unfortunately it won't have an aluminum chassis, Gorilla Glass facing, and Retina display. Its going to be a LOT more cheaply made...and that's my main hesitation here...its probably going to be a pretty chintzy piece of shit.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on January 25, 2012, 07:15:33 PM
I was thinking, it'd be cool if this wasn't limited to Neo Geo arcade games. It'd be nice if they put both the cd exclusives & pocket games. I mean, just to have an NGP that has a nice bright backlight would be nice.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Bernie on January 25, 2012, 08:57:11 PM
As long as it is not widescreen. I like seing the bars on top and bottom. It makes more sense, because that is how it looks in the teather.
That thing is useless, but it is better then buying anything from nintendo or sony :dance:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Really though, you are retarded.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: incrediblehark on January 26, 2012, 12:18:26 AM
looks nice to me, widescreen seems a little off, unless its planning to play movies too. almost looks like a 1000 model psp. As long as the price is reasonable and the games don't have that "smoothing" soft blurry effect they do on displays sometimes I would pick it up. I like my games nice and sharp. simulated scanlines would be a good idea too to recreate the arcade look.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Necromancer on January 26, 2012, 02:49:04 AM
I don't want a $100 version of this. It would be a piece of shit.
The Dingoo is $80 and is hardly shit. There's no reason to think this thing will be as expensive as an iPhone or a Vita, as it doesn't need anywhere near as much horsepower; scale back a DS or PSP to what's needed here and you're easily in the $100-200 range (depending on how much they want to get paid for the 20 games included).
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: geise on January 26, 2012, 02:55:23 AM
I don't think this is an official SNKP device. :-k
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Ji-L87 on January 26, 2012, 03:36:33 AM
I think they should've made it more AES-ish. That's just too square & boring for me. Also, fingerprints.
...what? This think is extremely SNK-correct, IMO. They nailed the aesthetic almost perfectly, even down to the fake CF originally used on the NGP. The logo is perfect, the joystick looks (I said, "looks") perfect. It's black. Too square and boring? More like an AES? The AES is literally just a black square slab with a power switch on it. It could hardly be more boring. The most interesting thing about an AES is whatever cart is sticking out of it, and that's why it's so cool. There is no time for chrome badges and rainbow buttons when you are Pro Gear Spec!
The AES might not exactly immediately turn your head with some flamboyant design (and I tend to like those) and yes, it can be said that it's a bit of bore to look at. But you're a bit too harsh on it, I mean, it's not just a black box, it's black box with a slope. 8) The magic is in that slope...and the bump around the cartridge port...and in the "lines" scattered symmetrically all over the unit. It looks like a competent piece of electronics.
I'll try and make my criticism against this new device more proper; To me, this looks like every other iPhone-look alike, complete with piano-black finish (which really is nothing short of retarted on a handheld - guess what it's going to look like). You may argue that the PSP sports the same look (and I don't really like it) and the same goes for the Vita (and again, I'm not really feeling it). What I saw in my head when I read the headline was not this, but rather something like the NGPC or Gameboy or...the Sega Nomad perhaps. Not exactly pretty, but more interesting to look at. It's like the difference between some glossy piece of stereo compared to those big, black Hi-Fi sets from the 80s/90s. They have all kinds of displays, knobs, switches, inputs, outputs...and I love looking at them. This, not so much.
But, at least it's got proper buttons. : )
/rant
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Chuplayer on January 26, 2012, 09:31:13 AM
I don't think this is an official SNKP device. :-k
National Console Support says it's a hoax.
http://www.ncsx.com/2012/012312/ncs0123h.htm
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/regularshowa.gif)
Maybe I'm missing something but it just has a picture of it and it says "hoax". That's it? No commentary?
To be honest I wouldn't be too surprised. To release a portable neo-geo now seems kind of odd. I mean, only a niche market still plays these games, and there are plenty of other portable devices capable of emulation and gaming already out there. Plus the fact that it looks EXACTLY like an iPhone. It would be a really easy photoshop to do.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: HercTNT on January 26, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
Necromancer, i admit i was off on that statement. I had a flashback of a few things i read in other threads, and it all hit at once.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Mathius on January 26, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
If you notice in the Nation Console pic that the "Select" button becomes "Menu" in the bottom pic. That seems odd.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Chuplayer on January 26, 2012, 10:41:32 PM
I don't think this is an official SNKP device. :-k
National Console Support says it's a hoax.
http://www.ncsx.com/2012/012312/ncs0123h.htm
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/regularshowa.gif)
Maybe I'm missing something but it just has a picture of it and it says "hoax". That's it? No commentary?
To be honest I wouldn't be too surprised. To release a portable neo-geo now seems kind of odd. I mean, only a niche market still plays these games, and there are plenty of other portable devices capable of emulation and gaming already out there. Plus the fact that it looks EXACTLY like an iPhone. It would be a really easy photoshop to do.
Well, they've certainly got contacts abroad. They were probably curious and asked one of them to purchase some, and then the suppliers told them it was a hoax.
If you notice in the Nation Console pic that the "Select" button becomes "Menu" in the bottom pic. That seems odd.
This, too.
I don't know what everybody was all up in arms about as far as the screen being some form of widescreen, though. Pillarbox the Neo Geo games, and you've still got a widescreen display for movies and stuff.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: RegalSin on January 27, 2012, 02:14:25 AM
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I dont get the sarcasm for the dingoo that i have seen in these forums. Unless you own one, you cant really judge the system.
If I buy one, I can play around with it, but then I lose out, because afterwards I am unable to return it. Then if I resell it, I get next to nothing back.
The next year, and next year somebody will make a new thing, and hear the same crappy story.
Did you guys know that early PPC had emulators for the Genesis?
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: geise on January 27, 2012, 03:45:46 AM
Did you know it's a Sin to be Regal?
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Mathius on January 27, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
It's made the news
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 27, 2012, 11:51:57 AM
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: PunkicCyborg on January 27, 2012, 12:59:24 PM
Wow this is prety cool looking, can't wait for more info on it! If this is just a simple gaming machine then this appeals to me. I want a simple portable for retro gaming mainly and I like the simple clean design of this. Hope it pans out some more!
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: A_Locomotive on January 27, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
I don't like the design, it doesn't look like it would be comfortable enough to play fighters on. Playing fighters or any other game on my PSP that has fast twitch game play results in crazy hand cramps in a short time. As much as I love my Neo Geo compilation I have for it I can never play it for long for that reason. Where as I could play fighters all day on my NGPC because of its fantastic design. This thing needs to be a bit thicker and have some sort of grips or places on the back your fingers can lock into so you don't need to brace it when your playing. Of course I can't know how it will feel to hold but my gut instinct says it won't be comfortable.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: HammerHead on January 28, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I will be very sad if this is a hoax.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: esteban on January 29, 2012, 02:42:25 AM
You are referring to the horrid show (ScrewAttack News?) and the abominable host (his eyes!)?
I hate it, too. Loathe it. Abhor it.
Why does the host irk me so? Hmmm....
I think it was his eye! Yes, it was this! He had the eye of a vulture --a pale blue eye, with a film over it. Whenever it fell upon me, my blood ran cold...
:)
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Mathius on March 17, 2012, 04:32:18 AM
Looks like the Neo Geo handheld is real.
....and it will cost $800. I'm not kidding.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: esteban on March 17, 2012, 04:35:53 AM
seems like the 800 dollar price tag is bullshit... yay go internet killing a console on arrival with rumors
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 17, 2012, 06:34:08 AM
It should cost less than half the current price of a PSP. There is absolutely no reason it should cost more. It's not like the Neo Geo is the cutting edge of technology or anything. It's primitive.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: meka on March 17, 2012, 06:38:20 AM
:evil:Are they for real, $800, if it was a NEO GEO MVS/AES with games then alright, its from the company that makes those shitty genesis clones, and it looks cheap like the Dingoo A320, which I have and that's only $70 and it can emulate dozens of consoles and computers.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: meka on March 17, 2012, 06:40:42 AM
Would be better if they made a MVS/AES handheld, it would be the size of an Ipad and several times thicker, but I would buy that, not for $800 though.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 17, 2012, 07:01:03 AM
For $800 it had better play both real AES and MVS carts. And PSP games. And double as an iPad 3.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: TheClash603 on March 17, 2012, 09:07:32 AM
This thing is exactly what I said it was going to be, an entry level budget handheld which emulates Neo Geo games. The fact that everyone on Earth already has a portable device that plays/can play Neo Geo games means that this HAS to be at a budget price to compete with other devices. The components needed to have a portable which can play Neo Geo games and has wi-fi to download new games will cost... $100? Let them jack up the price so they can make some money, and they can sell it for $150.
If it costs more than a 3DS, they can look at selling maybe a few hundred of these units... Though, it is worth noting, that may a viable business strategy too. It is like when you walk past that super fancy clothing store on Fifth Ave. that never has anyone in it. They don't need an Old Navy sized crowd, because if they a few t-shirts that they made for $3 for $300, they are doing good for themselves. Maybe that is the business model for these guys? Sell a thousand systems for $500 that they paid $100 for, go to the bank, call it a day.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on March 17, 2012, 09:14:20 AM
If that's true, it's already dead. There's no justifying that price tag.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: Samurai Ghost on March 17, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
Wow, hopefully that's just a rumor... If not, my guess is SNK/Playmore is used to seeing NeoGeo collectors pay $1,000+ for single titles, and want in on some of this, figuring the hardcore fans will pay anything for an official piece of hardware. They are probably right, but it will inevitably fail, and the low production numbers will make this thing a huge collector's item in itself, spawning dozens of $10,000+ NEW SEALED RARE eBay auctions. The cycle continues!
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: GohanX on March 17, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
I'm guessing $199, including the "Neo fans are nuts" markup. I'm also hoping it will also be able to emulate other systems like a newer GP3x or whatever.
I don't have a source, but someone said that SNK Playmore is perfectly fine with loading the SD card with roms downloaded from the internet. I mean, anyone buying this would do that anyway, but it's awesome to have an official OK from the company.
Title: Re: New Neo-Geo handheld?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on March 17, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
What I would like, is a decent price(obviously), but I'd also like Neo Geo games with some extra's. For instance, lil' trophy things for accomplishing certain tasks would be cool, but also having the choice of redbook & chiptunes would be great! Also, I'd obviously like to see games running on it that were exclusive to all formats, including an english version of the Samurai Showdown RPG!