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Title: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 02, 2012, 05:53:40 AM
***FINAL UPDATE ***

All carts have been shipped to their respective owners which brings this group buy to a close. A final thank you to all participant for making this possible.

Price per flash cart is $69.00. Shipping to my home is $56.00 or 3.50 per flash cart. I am currently planning USPS Priority Small Flat Rate Boxes for domestic shipments as it is an easy, fast, and affordable method.
International orders: After conversing with my local post office, I have decided to go with actual shipping cost since it will be cheaper in most cases than the flat rate box.

Here is the updated list of participants so far as well as their current status. I will keep this list updated, so keep an eye on it. :D

Mishran (Me) - Cart test: passed
genetik - shipped!
Sadler - shipped!
incrediblehark - shipped!
HercTNT - shipped!
Senshi - shipped!
henrycsc - shipped!
xelement5x - shipped!
Duo_R - shipped!
Sparky - shipped!
neoxeno - shipped!
esteban - shipped!
Terminarcade - shipped!
emartin373 - shipped!
mrhaboobi - shipped!
kiketonto - shipped!
c0ldb33r - shipped!
christoph - shipped!
Gogan - shipped!
tiptopjames - shipped!
[extra] - returned to IC2005 for exchange

I have stepped forward and am willing to take care of the order, purchase, and shipping (once received) of the Neo Flash carts. If anyone else wishes to take charge, please speak now or forever hold your peace. If you do not feel me trust worthy enough for this task, then please do not participate in the group buy.

I do not wish to be stuck with multiples of the cart and a severe hole in my wallet, so I must ask for half the cost of the units up front to prevent folks from backing out after the order has been made. If you do not like such an idea, then please state so now and your name will be removed from the list.

The cut-off date as been pushed back to the 21st, which will act as the last day to pay half (or all if you choose) the cost of your unit. If anyone else is interested in one, now is the time to act.

I will update the above list with new additions as well as votes as I receive them.

Stay tuned for more info and thanks in advance to everyone who is participating. :clap:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 02, 2012, 06:43:16 AM
I'm definitely interested. Although I would prefer the 128M model, I could settle for a 64M if that's what everyone else agrees on.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 02, 2012, 07:06:00 AM
Count me in. Tried to order one last year, required signature, never got notice and they sent it back to Japan. :(
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mlbfan10 on February 02, 2012, 07:20:11 AM
What is this exactly?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 02, 2012, 07:30:50 AM
What is this exactly?


http://www.ic2005.com/shop/home.php?cat=2

Flash cart for the TG16/PCE.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 02, 2012, 08:52:55 AM
I completely forgot about this! I was on board for the group buy back then, and still in for one now. personally the bigger storage the better, but I'm willing to compromise and go with the majority if it means saving a few bucks with the group buy.

Just replied to this in the old thread.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Bernie on February 02, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
hmm..  Hell, why not.  Perfect way to play those translated roms.  :)  Yeah, I am down for one. 
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 02, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
With all the problems I heard about the 128M cart, I'd prefer to go the safe road with the 64M cart. But it depends on what everyone agrees on. Perhaps we need a poll with this thread. :-k

EDIT: How do I even add one? :-s
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 02, 2012, 02:04:11 PM
I'm interested in a 64 meg cart as well, what is the projected cost on a group buy?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 02, 2012, 02:12:47 PM
With all the problems I heard about the 128M cart, I'd prefer to go the safe road with the 64M cart. But it depends on what everyone agrees on. Perhaps we need a poll with this thread. :-k

EDIT: How do I even add one? :-s

What problems? I'd rather have the larger cart but not with a bunch of problems. I've never heard anything bad about these. I'm in regardless.

Edit: must have the save option
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 02, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
I'm interested in a 64 meg cart as well, what is the projected cost on a group buy?

For the 64M, it would be $74 per person (if we get at least 10 persons) + cost of shipping from the person that orders to your house. The 128M one would cost $114 plus shipping.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 02, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
I'd prefer the 128M cart with save option, but I'll take anything you guys decide on. :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 02, 2012, 02:23:33 PM
right, i forgot about the save option. that would be great for those of us that have gt's.  We should take a vote though.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 02, 2012, 03:30:27 PM
I'm unsure of what the save feature actually does? Does it work like the internal BRAM of the booster+ and turbo cd systems? Don't see how it would work like that.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 02, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Hmm, actually that's a damn fine question. From browsing this thread (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,5627.0.html) I'm inclined to think it only supports saves on ROMs that originally had a battery back up. Populous is the only one I know for sure had that, though there may have been others. If that's the case I care far less about the save feature. Also note that 128M is megabits, not bytes. SF2 is 20 megabits, I think several of the later releases (Bonk 3, Magical Chase) were 8 mega bits. Even the 128M isn't going to hold a ton of games, so this will hardly replace your binder of hu's when you travel. :D

I guess all that is to say I'm still down with whatever you guys choose, but I'm marginally less motivated to pursue the 128M + save unless someone can convince me the cart actually replicates the backup memory of the booster plus/CD/Duo.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Flare65 on February 02, 2012, 04:39:42 PM
I'm stil a bit confused as to what this thing actually does.  Does it come with any games on it?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mlbfan10 on February 02, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
Is there a discount for doing a group buy? :p
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 02, 2012, 04:46:35 PM
Think of it as a USB flash drive for your pc engine. It allows you to load up whatever hucard data you'd like to it and then you can select which to play from a menu on your console.

EDIT: To be clear, this isn't simply a piracy device. It's sort of like an R4 for a DS. You can load whatever you want onto it. This means homebrews like and fan translations like Bubblegum Crash (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1234/).

It isn't going to expand the hardware capabilities of the machine you are running on. Don't expect to load CD ISOs on here and play them on your Express. That said there are lots of reasons to want one.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Necromancer on February 03, 2012, 02:24:33 AM
From browsing this thread (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,5627.0.html) I'm inclined to think it only supports saves on ROMs that originally had a battery back up. Populous is the only one I know for sure had that, though there may have been others.


Tennokoe Bank is the only huey that saves internally, making the save function pretty much useless.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 03, 2012, 02:37:11 AM
Tennokoe Bank is the only huey that saves internally, making the save function pretty much useless.

Well if the internal save function is pretty much unused, I say that we either go for the 64M or the battery-less 128M. The battery-less 128M would cost $104 plus shipping from the buyer's home to us as opposed $74 for the 64M one.
 
I'm stil a bit confused as to what this thing actually does.  Does it come with any games on it?

Doesn't come with any games. You load whatever you want using the usb linker.
 
Is there a discount for doing a group buy? :p

Yes, some discount. In a group, the 64M is $74 (plus shipping) as opposed to $99 (free shipping for only one cart). The battery-less 128M is $104 (plus shipping) as opposed to $129 (again, free shipping for only one cart).
 
We're saving about $20 per cart (we have to pay for the 2nd shipping as well). Since I’m located in Canada, I would get hit with a higher shipping cost. Maybe $8-9...I’m wondering if it’s worth it to save $15-18. The only thing that worries me is what if some of them that are DOA. Would we have to get it exchange using the original buyer?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: majors on February 03, 2012, 02:42:24 AM
Even the 128M isn't going to hold a ton of games, so this will hardly replace your binder of hu's when you travel. :D
I'm no expert on the flash cart in discussion, but I have the 32mb Tototek and it holds 5-6 Hu ROMS on a good day. I bought it mainly to run Magical Chase and the Caravan shooters. You are right, it's not gonna replace anyones collection but it is neat to be able to run some rares or try out some Hu's you may never had the opportunity to.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 03, 2012, 03:00:02 AM
In preparation for getting the card, I tried to make a quick list of what I could fit on the 128 and the 64. I managed to get about 31 games to fit on the 128 (15.5MB worth of roms) and about 15 games on the 64 (7.7MB worth of roms). The 128 one would fit just about all the games I really want, but it's definitely much harder to do a selection for the 64.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 03, 2012, 03:40:37 AM
I would like the bigger one personally but will go with whatever the majority wants.

genetik, if you want I can get your card and mail it to you. We've had some transactions in the past (just bought your everdrive) and if it would save you shipping I would be happy to help out.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 03, 2012, 04:18:05 AM
genetik, if you want I can get your card and mail it to you. We've had some transactions in the past (just bought your everdrive) and if it would save you shipping I would be happy to help out.

I don't mind, but I don't see how it would lower the shipping cost. Yes, the shipping for the 2nd card to you would be free (since it tags along yours), but I would still need to shell out the $8-9 from you to me. Plus the extra shipping time.

Ideally, the person ordering the lot should be a trusted member of the forum and be located where the bulk of the other buyers are located, which is most likely the US. That person gets a small discount of not paying for the 2nd shipping (also gets the cart first), but will have to pack the other 9 carts and send them.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: henrycsc on February 03, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
I'd be interested as well.  Either way.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on February 03, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
I'm also interested as well, I'm in the US too.

Someone brought up the matter of dead on arrival goods and I also think that it's something that would want to be tested for once we got them if it's a common occurrence with these carts.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 03, 2012, 11:36:49 AM
dumb question, but does the flash linker come with it as well? I would imagine it would or you could not do much with it right?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Deletion on February 03, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
Does anyone know the status of the Turbo EverDrive? Is Krikzz developing it and planning a release for later this year? That would have a strong bearing on whether I get in on this group buy or not.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 03, 2012, 02:40:01 PM
I would be interested but I have a feeling that it would either be DOA or such a pain in the ass to use that I'd just be paying $100 to be pissed off at something.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 03, 2012, 05:03:33 PM
Have we determined that some of these 128M carts are actually DOA and not just suffering from the works-on-some-consoles-but-not-others-because-of-shoddy-power syndrome?

I mean, conceivably someone with only one console who received one of these and had it not work might immediately think the thing was DOA when it fact it just suffers from the same affliction that all of them do.

Which really, is a problem with the consoles themselves and not the carts.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: cabbage on February 03, 2012, 06:13:30 PM
I have a 128Mb+save. So far I have found no use for the save function at all. It doesn't seem to be compatible with the Tennokoe and it does not replace the Backup RAM. I've not had any luck writing homebrew code that saves to the Neo Flash save RAM either (surely it's possible, though). I wonder what the Neo Team was thinking when they added that feature  :shock:

The Neo Flash is a nice thing to have, though. It's not nearly as user-friendly as R4 and the like, but with a bit of tinkering most (maybe all?) games can be made to work well. It still has some quirks that I don't understand, but it's good to be able to play homebrew and translations and hu-cards that I'll probably never find or be able to afford (Magical Chase).

If anyone is on the fence about joining a group buy and has some questions about the cart, feel free to ask.

HercTNT- mine came with a linker. I don't know if they can be bought without one. The Neo Flash card actually has pins on both sides--one side has a PCE/TG16 connector and the other has a GBA one. When you want to play, you plug the PCE side into your console and go to town. When you want to flash some new stuff on it, you plug the GBA side into the USB linker and run their flashing software.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 03, 2012, 06:52:55 PM
Have we determined that some of these 128M carts are actually DOA and not just suffering from the works-on-some-consoles-but-not-others-because-of-shoddy-power syndrome?

I mean, conceivably someone with only one console who received one of these and had it not work might immediately think the thing was DOA when it fact it just suffers from the same affliction that all of them do.

Which really, is a problem with the consoles themselves and not the carts.

I have a DOA one. It's been tested on a IFU, US Duo, and Duo R.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on February 03, 2012, 10:08:39 PM
I am interested, but when does the everdrive for PCE come out?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 04, 2012, 02:14:30 AM
Regardless, the 64M is my preference. I see no need for the larger one in case the everdrive DOES release. I've never heard anyone mention problems with the 64M either. I was considering taking care of the purchase and dispersal of these as well if nobody objects.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 04, 2012, 02:33:52 AM
I am interested, but when does the everdrive for PCE come out?

There's no set date really. Krikzz hoped to deliver it in summer. But right now he's not working on it. He's focusing on the mega everdrive also he's helping, if I'm not mistaken, on a new snes flash cart as well.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 04, 2012, 03:40:32 AM
Have we determined that some of these 128M carts are actually DOA and not just suffering from the works-on-some-consoles-but-not-others-because-of-shoddy-power syndrome?

I mean, conceivably someone with only one console who received one of these and had it not work might immediately think the thing was DOA when it fact it just suffers from the same affliction that all of them do.

Which really, is a problem with the consoles themselves and not the carts.

I have a DOA one. It's been tested on a IFU, US Duo, and Duo R.

Fair enough. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: PsychedelicShaman on February 04, 2012, 04:26:59 AM
Hey guys, I would suggest waiting for the Turbo Everdrive.  It will leave the neoflash version very outdated, and is months away.  This will run off of a sd or microsd card so you can put the entire tg16/pce library on it and forget about it.  There's talks of integrating the Arcade duo card into the Turbo Everdrive, but I'm not sure he's interested in doing that.  He's speccing it out to be more around the pricing of the everdrive md which is $78. So if it's around $100 it's still cheaper than the group buy price for a 128mb + save neoflash cart and better.  Grant it, the price and release date is still speculation.

Here is the forum thread where you can track the progress over at assemblergames.  Admittedly there isn't a whole lot of progress since he's working on the new everdrive md.  http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31764.  Retrocollect article on it, the link to the Turbo Everdrive shows the pcb design.  http://www.retrocollect.com/News/krikzz-to-release-pc-engine-turbografx-16-flash-cartridge-a-updated-ultimate-mega-drive-everdrive.html

tl;dr Why drop more than $100 for a cart that you will be replacing with a better one for around $100 in around 6 months?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 04, 2012, 06:12:02 AM
For sure the everdrive will be better in every way. No doubts about it. I own all of Krikk's product and I love them.

I myself have no Hucards yet, so I would very much like having a neoflash cart while waiting for the everdrive. The 64M would be cheaper than $100. I see it as a fairly inexpensive way to play what I want while waiting for the evedrive.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: BigusSchmuck on February 04, 2012, 07:53:24 AM
For sure the everdrive will be better in every way. No doubts about it. I own all of Krikk's product and I love them.

I myself have no Hucards yet, so I would very much like having a neoflash cart while waiting for the everdrive. The 64M would be cheaper than $100. I see it as a fairly inexpensive way to play what I want while waiting for the evedrive.
The problem with the NeoFlash (from what I have heard) is that it doesn't work on every system due to the voltage requirements. So its really a 50/50 chance that it will work at all. See this thread for more details:
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=10670.0
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 10:55:05 AM
I thought Steve found a work around to get more voltage to it?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on February 04, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
I thought Steve found a work around to get more voltage to it?

What is the work around?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
I have no idea, i remember steve talking to someone about tapping in to the board somewhere to get more voltage to the cart slot. I have shit for memory sometimes. Either he said he found a way, or he said he was pretty sure if he could look at it, he would find a way.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 04, 2012, 08:56:04 PM
I would assume that it isn't really more voltage that is required necessarily, but rather more current so that the standard amount of voltage can be maintained under the increased draw of the flash card.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 10:21:06 PM
Would an ac/dc adapter with a larger milliamp rating be the fix then? or is it still an internal problem?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 05, 2012, 09:07:20 AM
Would an ac/dc adapter with a larger milliamp rating be the fix then? or is it still an internal problem?

It's an internal problem. Using higher-rated AC adapters won't get you anywhere.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: BlueBMW on February 05, 2012, 11:30:26 AM
I think he directly linked the 5v line on the hucard slot to the output of one of the 7805 regulators so it had full supply and wasnt going through any other  components.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 05, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
count me in either way.... maybe i can make up a sticker to go on the cart face...hahaha...there is a sticker for every solution!!!  :P
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 05, 2012, 02:51:15 PM
Well seems we have enough people to do this thing so far.

Mishran (Me)
genetik
Sadler
incrediblehark
Bernie
HercTNT
Senshi
henrycsc
xelement5x
Duo_R
Sparky

Any volunteers on doing the ordering, payment, and eventual shipment of these? I'd be happy to take care of it, but I'd have to ask half the price up front to prevent people from backing out and leaving me with unadopted carts and a large hole in my wallet.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 05, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
Mishran, I'm good to go after wendsday of next week. thats when i can throw in half.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 05, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
If I'm doing the honors, I'll wait until the 19th to order. Give anyone else interested a chance to step forward. We need to decide as a whole what version we are going with. The 128M would be nice, but with what I hear about them, I really don't wish to take the chance with it. Others interested chime in again stating which version you want so we can get a vote which direction we take.

My vote: 64M
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 05, 2012, 06:34:05 PM
If thats the case, then I cast my vote for the 64meg card as well. the 128 is nice, but just a bit to steep for me.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on February 06, 2012, 04:19:35 AM
I'd prefer whichever was the more reliable model, I don't really know a lot about the differences and if they would effect me (I only use the CoreGrafx and Duo-RX most of the time).  For the 64, the cost would be about $80 after shipping and all?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 06, 2012, 04:47:32 AM
I'd prefer whichever was the more reliable model, I don't really know a lot about the differences and if they would effect me (I only use the CoreGrafx and Duo-RX most of the time).  For the 64, the cost would be about $80 after shipping and all?

Yep, that is about right.

The 64M units for orders of 10-49 is $69.00

759.00 (Price for 11) + 51.00 (Shipping) = 810.00 (Total Shipped) / 11 (Units) = 73.64 (Per Unit) + 6.00 (Domestic Shipping w/ Tracking) = $79.64

Would be a little more for our out of country bretheren.

Price isn't bad at all. The $11.00 for shipping is where it hurts.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 06, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
I'm ok with the 64M and Feb 19th sounds good to me. Price wise, we would need to add an extra 4% (or send as a gift) so that the one buying doesn't get hit with the fees.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on February 06, 2012, 11:04:45 AM
I want one also. I vote for a 64M.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 06, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
64M is fine with me. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 06, 2012, 12:19:20 PM
Mishran, thanks for taking the lead on this. we appreciate it. 
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on February 06, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
Ha! I replied on the other thread. I'm interested in joining the group purchase.

I see that folks aren't going to wait for the Ukranian's (Krzkkkk's) offering :)

Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 06, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
First post has been updated.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 06, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
69... i mean 64 please :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Terminarcade on February 06, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
I also need one of those... :pray: 64m should be fine for me.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 07, 2012, 02:06:17 AM
if everyone else wants the 64m i will too, just let me know when to pay!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 07, 2012, 02:35:28 AM
i will not be ready to purchase until the 21st.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 07, 2012, 04:30:44 AM
i will not be ready to purchase until the 21st.

Oh man, Senshi... I don't know. What do you chaps think? Push the cut-off date back to the 21st to give Senshi a chance at one of these? :-k
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 07, 2012, 04:42:17 AM
:lol: yeah I can wait 3 more days. :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 07, 2012, 04:54:10 AM
i will not be ready to purchase until the 21st.

Oh man, Senshi... I don't know. What do you chaps think? Push the cut-off date back to the 21st to give Senshi a chance at one of these? :-k

I don't want to hold everyone up. As long as I don't have to buy the lot and distribute its fine.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 07, 2012, 04:58:45 AM
i will not be ready to purchase until the 21st.

Oh man, Senshi... I don't know. What do you chaps think? Push the cut-off date back to the 21st to give Senshi a chance at one of these? :-k

I don't want to hold everyone up. As long as I don't have to buy the lot and distribute its fine.

Easy does it, man. I was only messing with you. :shock: If you truly want one, consider it done. Already changed the first post to reflect the push back date. :wink:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 07, 2012, 05:18:50 AM
Oh ok. I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to wait two weeks, especially if everyone is good to go.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on February 07, 2012, 05:22:14 AM
Cool, when you need the cash please let me know via PM since I get an email for those.  Sometimes I miss the thread updates and I wouldn't want to look like a flake by not paying on time.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 07, 2012, 05:44:23 AM
I gotta agree with ya though, Senshi... Got quite a task in store for me here. Hopefully everything goes without a hitch. :pray:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 07, 2012, 06:10:59 AM
Yea I hope so too. We've all be forewarned there might be an issue so if someone is not ok with that they should back out now. Just put me down for the 64M since it seems like there isn't really a difference after all.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
If everyone goes for the cheaper 64meg version i dont see anything going wrong. by the votes i would say its heading that way anyways.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on February 07, 2012, 01:11:49 PM
64 M is fine w/ me. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: emartin373 on February 07, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
I would be very interested as well. Who do I need to PM for payment info? A 64M would be fine.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
I think Mishran is gonna pm us payment info when he's ready to rock and roll.                                     
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: emartin373 on February 07, 2012, 02:49:43 PM
Sounds great. Mishran, please add me to the list.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 07, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
Hey, 35 more people jump in and we can save another $4.00 per flash cart!  :lol:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 07, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
Yeah, I remember the "bulk rates" being ridiculous.

Something like:

"1-30 - $69/ea"
"31-60 - $67/ea"
"61-95 - $66/ea"
"96-200 - $62/ea"
"201+ - $60/ea"

Big savings.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on February 07, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
I am hopping on the 64m bandwagon! :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 05:18:49 AM
I've been checking shipping costs for these and while it should be pretty cheap to ship these USPS within the US, $5.35 for Priority Small Flat Rate Box, international is going to be rather steep. Shipping to the UK for instance by USPS is $16.95. FedEx, which I must have done something wrong, states $82.45 to the UK. :shock:

IC2005.com claims the package weighs 1g which seems too light for what it is. It would still be cheaper than someone ordering just one and having it shipped to the UK, however. I have personally never shipped a package of any type international, so perhaps someone can offer some advice. Any thoughts, questions, suggestions?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 08, 2012, 05:38:42 AM
The small flate rate box should be around $13 using USPS to the UK.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on February 08, 2012, 07:25:35 AM
I would be keen if i can get it shipped to New Zealand.. should be about 12 bucks or so for shipping based on my other purcahses
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
USPS.com says $16.95, same as the UK. I believe prices have gone up again recently. Domestic flat went from 5.20 up to 5.35.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 08, 2012, 10:50:55 AM
USPS.com says $16.95, same as the UK. I believe prices have gone up again recently. Domestic flat went from 5.20 up to 5.35.

Damn that sucks
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 08, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
there's always airmail but then you run a whole other set of risks, but considering they're already being shipped from China (Most likely in a plain envelope via air) maybe the risk isn't so bad.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on February 08, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
At least the xchange rate isn't as bad as normal  for me so I'm still keen, 64m should do the job,  out of interest what's going to be the come for you if the items are doa.?  Will the supplier look after you
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 03:47:59 PM
First post updated. All participants please read it. PMs will be inbound shortly. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Payment detail PMs have been sent to everyone on the list. If you did not receive it, please PM me. Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 08, 2012, 04:33:43 PM
Just want to publicly thank you for taking lead on this. Thanks man! :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 04:35:55 PM
Just want to publicly thank you for taking lead on this. Thanks man! :D

Not a problem at all. I want one of these suckers too! The cheaper the better. :wink:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 08, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
At least the xchange rate isn't as bad as normal  for me so I'm still keen, 64m should do the job,  out of interest what's going to be the come for you if the items are doa.?  Will the supplier look after you

Sorry, man. I completely overlooked your post. The item would have to be returned to the supplier for exchange. It would have to be sent to them straight from you, but the exchanged item would come straight to me and then have to be sent to you again. Its a pain in the ass, but that's how it goes it would seem.

If anyone wants to prevent too much trouble, I CAN open and test anybody's cart here before sending it off too you. I have several systems (TurboGrafx x2, Core Grafx, SuperGrafx, Turbo Express, and a Duo-R) I can test them on. I was actually considering purchasing an extra in case one happens to be DOA, which I don't think will happen as I never heard of any problems with the 64M version.. If they do all work, I can always sell the spare.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 08, 2012, 11:34:54 PM
Thats your call Mish, I wont say no to you testing them, at the same time, i dont see why its your job either. Your doing enough already in my eyes.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 09, 2012, 01:40:37 AM
I've had a chat with my local post office about shipping items internationally. Everyone who lives in Canada or overseas, DO NOT send me shipping along with your payment. I will be doing actual shipping cost for these as I was told it would be much cheaper in most cases to do so. When you send payment, make sure you put a note in paypal what your user name here is so there is no confusion and proper credit is given. Updated PMs will be sent out to all of you reflecting this change. Thanks guys.

Thats your call Mish, I wont say no to you testing them, at the same time, i dont see why its your job either. Your doing enough already in my eyes.

Well, I'm not going to open and test any without permission. If there IS any DOA then it saves alot of trouble for all of us to find out before it leaves my residence. Either way, we will worry about that when the carts are ordered and arrive at my door.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 09, 2012, 03:11:01 AM
I'm interested in the group buy too! and 64 seems well to me after reading the 128M problems.
but need more info.
Payment method? PAYPAL (as gift) accepted?
any problem with re-send it to SPAIN?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 09, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
I'm interested in the group buy too! and 64 seems well to me after reading the 128M problems.
but need more info.
Payment method? PAYPAL (as gift) accepted?
any problem with re-send it to SPAIN?

PM sent.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 09, 2012, 06:46:40 AM
PM sent.

Really? I don't received nothing... :-s
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 09, 2012, 07:00:43 AM
I've had a chat with my local post office about shipping items internationally. Everyone who lives in Canada or overseas, DO NOT send me shipping along with your payment. I will be doing actual shipping cost for these as I was told it would be much cheaper in most cases to do so. When you send payment, make sure you put a note in paypal what your user name here is so there is no confusion and proper credit is given. Updated PMs will be sent out to all of you reflecting this change. Thanks guys.

Hey thanks for checking on shipping and setting this all up... you will have payment this evening  <<huggles>>  :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on February 09, 2012, 12:11:35 PM
I'd be interested in this - but isn't the everdrive guy going to release a pce flash cart soon?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Frank_fjs on February 09, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
I'd be interested in this - but isn't the everdrive guy going to release a pce flash cart soon?

Yes, but I don't know about soon as he has other priorities such as an upgraded Mega Drive cart.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 09, 2012, 03:10:28 PM
PM sent.

Really? I don't received nothing... :-s

PM resent. #-o
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 10, 2012, 02:13:39 AM
PM sent.
Really? I don't received nothing... :-s
PM resent. #-o
Thank you for the resent! Half payment via Paypal it's going! Send you a PM too!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Necromancer on February 10, 2012, 02:31:42 AM
+1 TurbobKarma to Mishran for putting together this group buy.  It's been talked about many times since the first group buy years ago, so it's nice to see someone finally taking the reins.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 10, 2012, 02:46:34 AM
+1 TurbobKarma to Mishran for putting together this group buy.  It's been talked about many times since the first group buy years ago, so it's nice to see someone finally taking the reins.

Lead by example, Necro. People seeing people helping and contributing to the community drives others to do the same. Its the heart and soul of an online community like ours. Look at the freebie raffles. Couple of people stepped forward and offered free games, now we have raffles at least once every 2 weeks if not more often. You guys, every one of you, are the best! Lets continue to make the Turbob community rise above and beyond the wannabe communities plaguing the net! Turbo high-fives for everyone! :clap: :dance:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on February 11, 2012, 02:51:46 AM
+1 TurbobKarma to Mishran for putting together this group buy.  It's been talked about many times since the first group buy years ago, so it's nice to see someone finally taking the reins.

Lead by example, Necro. People seeing people helping and contributing to the community drives others to do the same. Its the heart and soul of an online community like ours. Look at the freebie raffles. Couple of people stepped forward and offered free games, now we have raffles at least once every 2 weeks if not more often. You guys, every one of you, are the best! Lets continue to make the Turbob community rise above and beyond the wannabe communities plaguing the net! Turbo high-fives for everyone! :clap: :dance:

Nonetheless, thank you Mishran, it's nice to thank you for this specifically :)

Of course, thanks to everyone else who has been generous with their time/energy/TG-16 goodness :)



TESTING:
I would appreciate it if you open up the Neo Flash Cart and test mine. I have tons of consoles, so I know that at least *one* of them will work. However, in the unlikely event that I can't get it to work, at least I'll know it is my hardware, and not the Neo Flash Cart itself.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: christoph on February 12, 2012, 10:03:11 AM
I'd like to try one of these - I'll take one too. PM incoming.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 12, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
I'd like to try one of these - I'll take one too. PM incoming.

Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 13, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
will have paypal money for you by the end of the week!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 14, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Payment sent. Sorry for the delay! :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 14, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Well, since Senshi was able to pay sooner than expected, it looks like we can possibly put a stop to any more "preorders" and go straight to order status. Of course I am still waiting on a few individuals to send payments. As soon as I get those, I can place the order for these.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on February 14, 2012, 05:44:20 PM
Nice thanks again for doing this!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on February 15, 2012, 02:29:34 AM
Hope I'm not too late! Pm sent!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 15, 2012, 02:57:31 AM
PM sent Gogan!

First post has also been updated.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on February 15, 2012, 03:35:49 AM
Thanks Mishran! Very awesome of you to head this up!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 15, 2012, 03:46:47 AM
Wifey wasn't the happiest when I told her about the plan. That was until I showed her my paypal account. I assume she was afraid I would get stiffed at first and get stuck with a large bill and several useless flash carts. I told her that was why I requested at least half up front. If someone decides to back out after the order for the carts is placed, guess who is out $36.00? Give you a hint, it won't be me. =;
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 15, 2012, 04:48:04 AM
Where's the faith?  :P

Edit: i mean't on the part of the Wifey  :P
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on February 15, 2012, 04:51:04 AM
It'd be pretty dumb and take a class act to not follow through on payment. Especially with all the extra work you are doing
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on February 15, 2012, 07:30:05 AM
pm sent!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on February 15, 2012, 11:21:39 AM
Payment sent.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tggodfrey on February 15, 2012, 11:35:21 AM
We now have 20 interested parties for the carts, so I'm officially closing preorders. I will not be accepting anymore at this time.

:(
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on February 15, 2012, 11:36:47 AM
We now have 20 interested parties for the carts, so I'm officially closing preorders. I will not be accepting anymore at this time.

:(

PM him, you have nothing to loose.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on February 15, 2012, 04:22:44 PM
Mish, +1 to the wifey for understanding :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 17, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
Sent PM reminder to the folks that haven't yet sent payment. Four short days guys.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on February 17, 2012, 06:28:09 PM
Are we still waiting until the 20th? Almost there....   =)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 18, 2012, 12:21:47 AM
If we can convince the remainder to pony up the funds, I can order them earlier. There's ALWAYS someone who's gotta wait till the last minute. [-X :wink:

Senshi was the reason I pushed the date back since he couldn't pay until the 21st. Yet I received his days ago!? What the hell Senshi???  :P
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 18, 2012, 12:40:14 AM
c0ldb33r is over on digitpress more than here i tink... i will drop over there and send him a pm if i remember my login
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 18, 2012, 03:30:54 AM
If we can convince the remainder to pony up the funds, I can order them earlier. There's ALWAYS someone who's gotta wait till the last minute. [-X :wink:

Senshi was the reason I pushed the date back since he couldn't pay until the 21st. Yet I received his days ago!? What the hell Senshi???  :P

Lol, sorry, got my tax refund sooner than expected.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 18, 2012, 10:57:38 AM
sorry for holding everyone up, haven't been around the forums in a couple of days. payment sent!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: genetik on February 19, 2012, 12:12:59 PM
Payment sent. Sorry for holding up the group, I still thought I had till Feb. 21st.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 19, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
Payment sent. Sorry for holding up the group, I still thought I had till Feb. 21st.

You did. That's why I sent you a pm letting you know that the date was coming up. I just didn't want anyone to miss out.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 19, 2012, 01:43:46 PM
PM'd c0ldb33r over on digitpress... It was today i sent it <<blush>>
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on February 19, 2012, 02:06:31 PM
Hi guys sorry for holding everything up. I wasn't getting notifications from this board.

I know the price is $69 - Just tell me to include for shipping to Canada and I'll PP immediately :)

edit: thanks to Sparky for pm'ing me at DP
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on February 20, 2012, 01:46:39 PM
I just sent funds. Sorry for the hold up. I sent $72.50 - let me know the shipping to Canada and I'll PP more :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 20, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Ok, looks like I have payment from everyone except for one loser. :P I will order the appropriate number of carts, plus an extra backup in the case of a DOA unit, tomorrow morning. I'll keep everyone posted. Its finally happening guys! :dance:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 20, 2012, 06:21:17 PM
Order has been made everyone! Welcome to the next step, the waiting game... sent everyone a pm with a scanned copy of the order receipt so you don't think I'm out to cheat ya! [-X :wink: As soon as I'm informed of these shipping to my home, I will update everyone.

Updated the first post as well if your interested...

Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 20, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
Hi! 2nd half  payment send! sorry but I was out for Holidays!
PM sent too!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on February 21, 2012, 12:30:38 AM
Got the pm! f*ck yea, can't wait! Tho I guess ima have to...
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 21, 2012, 08:28:39 AM
Are they shipping them to you EMS?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on February 21, 2012, 09:50:16 AM
When I saw the subtotals I was like "OMG that's a lot!"  Thanks again for organizing this!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on February 21, 2012, 04:11:16 PM
Order has been made everyone! Welcome to the next step, the waiting game... sent everyone a pm with a scanned copy of the order receipt so you don't think I'm out to cheat ya! [-X :wink: As soon as I'm informed of these shipping to my home, I will update everyone.

Updated the first post as well if your interested...



Ha! I can't believe it is actually happening (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png). Thanks again for taking the initiative on this.


+20 pts. for helping us... (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/Fly-Wing-small.jpg)


Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Deletion on February 21, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Haha, the Fly-wing stick lives on. Nice one, esteban :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 22, 2012, 02:35:55 PM
Credit card payment finally cleared today! :lol:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 23, 2012, 02:12:11 AM
Order has been made everyone! Welcome to the next step, the waiting game... sent everyone a pm with a scanned copy of the order receipt so you don't think I'm out to cheat ya! [-X :wink: As soon as I'm informed of these shipping to my home, I will update everyone.

Updated the first post as well if your interested...



Ha! I can't believe it is actually happening (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png). Thanks again for taking the initiative on this.


Ya man, glad to be part of this community <<group hug>>
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 23, 2012, 10:11:46 AM
This community is great. I'm more than happy to do what I can to help out here. It's not a problem at all.

Sparkster, I have interest in some of your goods. Perhaps we can work out a deal for the other half payment for your cart. I'll send ya a pm about it later. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on February 24, 2012, 02:10:14 AM
This community is great. I'm more than happy to do what I can to help out here. It's not a problem at all.

Sparkster, I have interest in some of your goods. Perhaps we can work out a deal for the other half payment for your cart. I'll send ya a pm about it later. :)

ya man, let me know and will work something out... i am easy :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 24, 2012, 04:47:35 AM
This community is great. I'm more than happy to do what I can to help out here. It's not a problem at all.

Sparkster, I have interest in some of your goods. Perhaps we can work out a deal for the other half payment for your cart. I'll send ya a pm about it later. :)

ya man, let me know and will work something out... i am easy :)

 :shock: Whoa, bud... Didn't mean THOSE goods. 8-[  :wink:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 24, 2012, 04:49:31 AM
lol
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 24, 2012, 05:23:10 AM
This community is great. I'm more than happy to do what I can to help out here. It's not a problem at all.

sorry Mishran,  can ask a favor? do you think it would be possible to test the device once you goy it?
I know it's a great favor, but after you resend it to me it does not work I think it would be more hassle
if you see much problem, of course, but I'd appreciate it.
apart from that...has arrive the second payment?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 24, 2012, 07:40:02 AM
This community is great. I'm more than happy to do what I can to help out here. It's not a problem at all.

sorry Mishran,  can ask a favor? do you think it would be possible to test the device once you goy it?
I know it's a great favor, but after you resend it to me it does not work I think it would be more hassle
if you see much problem, of course, but I'd appreciate it.
apart from that...has arrive the second payment?

When the units arrive, I'm gonna find out who wants the cart tested and who doesn't. I'm not really taking requests about it until then.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 24, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
When the units arrive, I'm gonna find out who wants the cart tested and who doesn't. I'm not really taking requests about it until then.
ok! Thanks anyway for the reply and the work that you are giving this matter.Anyway, if you can not test it, nothing happens, as I imagine there will be many people asking you the same.
Greetings!

EDIT: what about the money?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 25, 2012, 12:12:44 AM
When the units arrive, I'm gonna find out who wants the cart tested and who doesn't. I'm not really taking requests about it until then.
ok! Thanks anyway for the reply and the work that you are giving this matter.Anyway, if you can not test it, nothing happens, as I imagine there will be many people asking you the same.
Greetings!

EDIT: what about the money?

Yes I got it. Had to check my paypal account. Paypal never sent me an email showing that I received it. All is good though.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 25, 2012, 05:27:03 AM
EDIT: what about the money?
Yes I got it. Had to check my paypal account. Paypal never sent me an email showing that I received it. All is good though.
ok! thank you very much, i'm happy that everything works fine!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 27, 2012, 05:48:33 AM
Put in a order status request at the neoteam forum the other day. Haven't heard anything yet. Just wanted to keep you guys updated. Soon as I hear something, you'll know.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 27, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
The Neo Team is currently slaving away in their basement assembling your flash carts.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Necromancer on February 28, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
The Neo Team is currently slaving away in their basement assembling your flash carts.

Complete with greasy pizza fingerprints and cigarette ash.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 28, 2012, 04:32:40 AM
Had a DHL card taped to my front door today, which I believe means that our carts have shipped. :P

Unfortunately I wasn't home to receive the package, but they should redeliver it tomorrow. Would have been nice to have gotten the stupid tracking # so I could have made sure to be home when it came. ](*,) Will make sure to be home tomorrow though. :roll:

Keep you gents updated as usual.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on February 28, 2012, 05:12:11 AM
You are a good man.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on February 28, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
The Neo Team is currently slaving away in their basement assembling your flash carts.

Complete with greasy pizza fingerprints and cigarette ash.  :mrgreen:

I remember when I got mine, I swear it had tire marks on the back and was covered in dust and dirt. It's like when they field tested it, they actually took it out into a field.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on February 28, 2012, 01:18:48 PM
that was actually pretty quick
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 29, 2012, 02:12:09 AM
It's party time boys!  :dance:
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2158/imag0008kl.jpg)
Your hosts' have arrived! :clap:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on February 29, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
Hell yeah! Awesome! :D When are you shipping these bad boys out?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 29, 2012, 02:17:26 AM
It's party time boys!  :dance:
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2158/imag0008kl.jpg)
Your hosts' have arrived! :clap:

OH MY...! What a wonderful picture!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 29, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
I need everyone who ordered one to send me a PM about whether you want your flash cart tested or not before shipping. Those that say yes, I'll test the slim loader as well as the flash cart. I pulled one (mine) out of the stack and installed the drivers from the CD. Flashed a copy of PCFXBOMB.PCE onto the cart and popped it into my TE. Worked like a charm. I'd say there shouldn't be any issues with any of the carts, but I'm extending the offer to test before ship anyway in the unlikely event that a problem did occur. Send me some PMs folks!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on February 29, 2012, 03:13:01 AM
I need everyone who ordered one to send me a PM about whether you want your flash cart tested or not before shipping. Those that say yes, I'll test the slim loader as well as the flash cart. I pulled one (mine) out of the stack and installed the drivers from the CD. Flashed a copy of PCFXBOMB.PCE onto the cart and popped it into my TE. Worked like a charm. I'd say there shouldn't be any issues with any of the carts, but I'm extending the offer to test before ship anyway in the unlikely event that a problem did occur. Send me some PMs folks!
PM send!
Thank you!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on February 29, 2012, 11:41:54 AM
Oh man.... That was fast!!!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on February 29, 2012, 02:14:03 PM
PM sent. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on February 29, 2012, 02:47:30 PM
what's on the cover?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 29, 2012, 02:55:01 PM
I've found my first stinker... the cart I pulled out for neoxeno. Every cart I've tested so far has passed using my TE. His did not, as it failed to operate in my system. I'm going to test on my other systems before marking it as a DOA. This situation is the reason I purchased an extra cart.

Just to elaborate to everyone of the procedure I follow:

When I receive a PM, I check to see if the individual wants the cart tested or not. I write the person's username on the bag each package is in. If the cart isn't to be tested I write "No Test" on the bag. If it gets tested, I perform the following tests: connect the slim loader to the PC by USB, insert the flash cart, write to the flash cart, test in my TE for proper power on/operation, and finally test to ensure the reset button works. If it passes, I write "OK!". If it fails, I perform further tests.

No worry, neoxeno. I've got ya covered. :wink:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on February 29, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
I've found my first stinker... the cart I pulled out for neoxeno. Every cart I've tested so far has passed using my TE. His did not, as it failed to operate in my system. I'm going to test on my other systems before marking it as a DOA. This situation is the reason I purchased an extra cart.

Just to elaborate to everyone of the procedure I follow:

When I receive a PM, I check to see if the individual wants the cart tested or not. I write the person's username on the bag each package is in. If the cart isn't to be tested I write "No Test" on the bag. If it gets tested, I perform the following tests: connect the slim loader to the PC by USB, insert the flash cart, write to the flash cart, test in my TE for proper power on/operation, and finally test to ensure the reset button works. If it passes, I write "OK!". If it fails, I perform further tests.

No worry, neoxeno. I've got ya covered. :wink:

Ahh thats not good news :)  Think i might have to change my mind and get you to test it :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on February 29, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
what's on the cover?

Pair of WWII prop planes it looks like. I would assume its from a PCE game cover. Just not sure which.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on March 01, 2012, 02:20:21 AM
no worries with me  <<rolls dice>>
& leave mine til the end to ship, i am in no hurry man
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Terminarcade on March 01, 2012, 03:27:30 AM
Awesome, that was faster than expected! :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 01, 2012, 05:25:08 AM
Anyone wanting to know the "test status" of your cart, just check the first post.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on March 01, 2012, 05:39:37 AM
Mine has past! YESSSS!
You're great Mishran!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on March 01, 2012, 06:03:41 AM
Anyone wanting to know the "test status" of your cart, just check the first post.

Thanks for swapping mine with the extra one.
Last payment sent.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on March 02, 2012, 07:33:34 AM
PM also sent for testing :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 02, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
Cant wait to get mine. Was my tested?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 02, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
Cant wait to get mine. Was my tested?

Yes
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 09:04:23 AM
anyone who has recieved there flash carts please follow these instructions. especially if you have windows 7

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php?topic=6373.0

the software is much newer and will work if the cd software does not.

Edit:  Despite all of this my system will still not use the card due to usb timeout. It appears to be a windows 7 64bit exclusive problem that i have yet to find a workround.  If anyone has windows 7 64-bit and does not have this problem please let us know.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 10:00:54 AM
Just fished mine out of the mail box and installed the manager Herc pointed to. Got some stupid message about missing an xml file apparently related to language, but I ignored it like a boss. Burned Magical Chase and just played it for the first time on real hardware! So awesome! :D Thanks so much! :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 10:03:14 AM
Edit:  Despite all of this my system will still not use the card due to usb timeout. It appears to be a windows 7 64bit exclusive problem that i have yet to find a workround.  If anyone has windows 7 64-bit and does not have this problem please let us know.

I'm on Win7 64-bit and didn't have this issue. It might be the order you performed things. Did you install the manager and driver prior to inserting the USB loader on your system? Took a while for the drivers to actually load for me.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
the xml thing is you need to download microsofts msxml sp3 parser and it will make that warning go away. as far as the error goes, i was trying to format the card as per instructions on that page. it would not format my card. the usb would time out everytime. i hope that it did not mess anything up.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
the xml thing is you need to download microsofts msxml sp3 parser and it will make that warning go away. as far as the error goes, i was trying to format the card as per instructions on that page. it would not format my card. the usb would time out everytime. i hope that it did not mess anything up.

Gotcha, I'll grab that msxml stuff eventually, though it doesn't seem to affect anything. I actually didn't format my card, I just added the ROMs I wanted. I'm a little hesitant to try formatting now! :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 11:21:59 AM
Ok, i installed everything on windows xp and had zero issues with the software and drivers. I formatted the card without problems and burned roms. So far, despite setting region, i have not managed to get a single us rom to work. I did however manage to get 90% of japanese roms to work that i have tried.  this thing is definately finicky. sadler, if you dont mind, pm me on what roms you used and the setting you used. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 11:38:51 AM
PM sent. :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
quick question - can I mix regions on ROMS that I throw on this thing? So put US and JP roms on it and they will work?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
no although it seems to be possible to hex edit the roms to change their region
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
no although it seems to be possible to hex edit the roms to change their region


Alright, disclaimer: I'm really new to this and it's quite possible I'm not telling the truth here... I have both PCE and TG ROMs on my card and they both work, I think at once. I'll have to play around some more to be sure, but I haven't seen anything fail yet. Even when I mix ROMs.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
its possible i imagine, but their website you can't so who knows. here is a link to an updated pce bios for the program that fixed even more problems for me.

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?33168-Using-the-NeoFlash-PCE-Flash-Carts

I loaded up 10 pce games and all but 1 worked fine. I still have not got back to the us carts yet. Sadler and i are working the issue and between the two of us i imagine we will fix most problems that people might have. Thanks goes to sadler for the support :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Necromancer on March 03, 2012, 01:30:05 PM
Alright, disclaimer: I'm really new to this and it's quite possible I'm not telling the truth here... I have both PCE and TG ROMs on my card and they both work, I think at once. I'll have to play around some more to be sure, but I haven't seen anything fail yet. Even when I mix ROMs.

Same here.  I've never had a problem mixing and matching ROMs, though mine's an older one using equally old flashing software.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
maybe its just me then. the readme that came on the cd said mixing and matching was a no no. japanese games wont work on my us turbo and american ones wont work on my japanese duo-r.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 02:31:09 PM
ok i think I actually have a bad one. I only got one game to work out of about a dozen, and often the system menu freezes when i select a game. A couple times the graphics glitch out. This is on a Duo-R system.

The card wasn't formatted when I got it and followed the instructions that was posted here.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
dont give up, first time i tried it i did not get a single game to work. got lots of garbage on the screen as well. put just one rom on the card, pick the correct region you want to program for before you load the rom into the program. then burn it to to the cart and try to load it up. sadler and i will be more than willing to help you out if you have any more questions.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
i am using windows 7, should i just scrap that thing and use XP? Now it won't even recognize the card...
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: TheOldMan on March 03, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
Quote
I only got one game to work out of about a dozen
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it seems to be possible to hex edit the roms to change their region
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my system will still not use the card due to usb timeout.

I have the 128+save, and I've seen all these problems. And they are all fixable:

1) Check the rom in a hex editor, and see if it has a 128 byte header. If so, you have to remove it.
(the header causes the game to freeze on the menu screen)

2) If you want to run roms from a different region, you have to tell it which region the rom is from, using
the little drop down region box. If the software won't let you mix/match regions (some versions don't), you need
to bit-flip the rom image.

3) The usb timeout was the tough one: You have to make sure you have a <really> good connection at the usb port, and that the usb port does not go idle. If you are on a laptop with power-save mode, you need to tell windows -not- to let the device power down.

...........................................................
There are utils floating around to strip the header and flip the rom images. Fixing the usb problem requires changing some windows settings. I don't remember where it is, or where I saw the info. I just moved the reader to a desktop computer :)

And from what I remember, the 'newest' version of the software sucks. I think I went back to version 1.20 of the all-in-one stuff to make everything work.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 03:07:29 PM
i am using windows 7, should i just scrap that thing and use XP? Now it won't even recognize the card...


Let's start from the top. Upon receiving your flash cart, what steps did you take, and what software (OS mainly) and hardware did you use?

As best I can recall, this is what I did (using Win7 64 bit on an intel core 2 quad):

0. Do not insert the disc, nor the slim loader in you system yet!
1. Download manager from HERE (http://www.neoflash.com/myth/Neo2_Pro_Manager_1.03_Beta_Setup.rar)
2. Installed the manager. This included drivers. I did not make any effort to install the manager in a specific location.
3. Inserted flash cart into USB interface
4. Inserted USB interface ("slim loader") into system
5. Navigated to the exe, right clicked and ran as administrator
6. Clicked "Add" and added the ROMs I wanted to play (ie Magical Chase or Soldier Blade)
7. Clicked Burn
8. Removed the slim loader from my system
9. Inserted into DUO-RX with region mod set to Japan
10. Enjoyed ROMs :D

A few things to note from the above:

* I did not format the drive
* I did not alter the settings on the right for US/Japan (left on Japan), despite the type of ROM I added. See below:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/29mnlz7.jpg)
* I did not use the alternate menu system listed on the neo forums
* I'm using an RX, I think both of you are using Duo-R's. Not sure if this matters.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Basically - I am having all the problems found here:

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6688.0.html

And what is weird, is the menu I have has a "SAVE" option? Am I using the wrong software? I thought these 64m carts didn't have a save option???
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 03:18:33 PM

ok I got a hex editor, but I have no idea how to tell if it has a 128 byte header....

"I have the 128+save, and I've seen all these problems. And they are all fixable:

1) Check the rom in a hex editor, and see if it has a 128 byte header. If so, you have to remove it.
(the header causes the game to freeze on the menu screen)"
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
OK, i think the header piece was the issue. I just got Magical Chase to work. Whew....hope that is all it is. Is there a program out there that can batch a bunch of games to remove the header?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Duo, this link has better files for what your trying to do. hope this helps.

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php?topic=6438.0
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: roflmao on March 03, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
I don't have one of these things, but I have found that sometimes some USB devices don't play well when I plug them into my computer's front USB ports or a USB hub.  But if I plug them into one of the USB ports that's on the back of the computer coming right off the motherboard, they work fine.  It's just something you might want to try to see if it helps.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 03:40:57 PM
good advice, i'm glad you mentioned it. i had the same problem earlier and forgot to say something. Definately plug into the back of the pc, not a front header. It works much better.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sadler on March 03, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
I'd be happy to whip up a util to strip out the headers of multiple ROMs if one does not exist. Couple quick questions to save me some time:

1) How large is the header?
2) Can the header be completely removed, or does it need to be overwritten with something (i.e. 0's)?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 03, 2012, 03:46:28 PM
the link i provided has several utilities that does just that. it also mirrors 3mb roms.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 04:16:16 PM
Thanks a ton guys...i thought I did something wrong and jacked it up...lol

It's times like these that having a shoutbox would be nice =)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 03, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
this is my first time playing MC on a console....WOW!!!!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on March 03, 2012, 11:47:28 PM

If it makes anyone feel better, I recall that nearly everyone with PCE flash carts has experienced a few hiccups initially.

I've never tinkered with a flash cart and I can't wait to get mine. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png)

Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 04, 2012, 01:24:51 AM
You can indeed mix japanes and american roms on the same cart. some people may need to use the links to the software i provided to iron out some issues as i did. As of this morning every game i have tried worked perfect with the exception of military madness. thanks to sadler for his feedback, it helped alot!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 04, 2012, 02:54:18 AM
Yeah I mixed and matched with the software you provided, worked fine after clearing the headers. I couldn't figure out how to batch command an entire folder though.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 04, 2012, 06:14:44 AM
the neopcepad software from the second link strips and mirrors every rom in a folder that it finds.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 04, 2012, 09:01:38 AM
The DOS command one? I couldnt figure out the batch command.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 04, 2012, 10:12:19 AM
duo, I'm not following you. it does all the roms in the folder at once. what do you need a batch command for?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 04, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
I can't figure out how to do that...sorry I feel dumb
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 04, 2012, 04:22:09 PM
no need for that, your just over thinking it. run the program once, no special commands. it does the rest. just make sure its in the directory with whatever roms you want fixed.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Senshi on March 05, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
Its a good thing you can download the drivers. I think someone jizzed on my driver disc.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 05, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I apologize for the delay in getting the remaining flash carts out. We recently (last week) bought a house and it has seize my full attention over the past week. I also do not have internet, which is being remedied tomorrow, and cell signal is almost nonexistant. I've tried making an update over the past few days on here, but my phone kept losing connection.

I'm going to make an effort to get the rest of these out by the end of the week. Again, I apologize for the delay. Didn't want anyone to think I up and ran off with your carts and cash.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
Senshi, mine was in the same condition. In fact the whole thing looked horribly used. It works though so i can't complain to much.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 12:37:27 PM
getting error "bad or invalid rom fat" when i plug it in to my computer. tried formatting it as it suggested, and it failed there too. anyone know how to get around it?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
actually it's "old version or invalid rom fat" sorry
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 05, 2012, 01:02:44 PM
I've had zero issues every time I flash mine and the carts I've tested on my PC flashed without issues as well.

As for the driver discs, I only checked to see if the packages contained discs, I did not open, handle, masterbate with, or otherwise fondle them in any way, shape, or form. They are practically useless anyway since better software can be downloaded from the neoteam site.

Compatibility wise, I've only had problems with  5 US titles not wanting to start, freezing at the menu. That is even after ensuring the header is removed. I've only tested/played the games on my unmodded TE, so I suppose compatibility could possibly change depending on the system.

Here is an interesting development... That "bad" cart I swapped for neoxeno appears to be very much functional and works very well... just on certain systems. It failed to operate on my Express as well as my TG16, but operated flawlessly on my Supergrafx, Duo-R, and modded Core. I'm beginning to wonder if people aren't pointing the finger in the wrong direction. :-k Perhaps the carts innards might be different from the rest, requiring more juice to operate than the others. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 01:15:24 PM
i just cannot get any version of the software to see that i even have the usb device plugged in, my computer sees it, and it's using what i assume is the correct driver. can i ask about your setup? OS and software version? i'm on windows 7, tried the newest software in one of those linked threads, which my first post refers to. now i'm downgraded to neo ultra 2, still no luck at all.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 01:47:28 PM
James, i had the same issue, no matter what i did i could not get anything to work in windows 7 even though others could.  once solution is this, microsoft offers virtual pc, and windows xp free of charge to most users of windows 7. it might seem like alot to go through, but if you virtualize winxp and then install your neo on that, it should work fantastic. The only other option is either to have a winxp system lying around, or know someone that does. In my case i used my daughters winxp computer (the whole thing is hello kitty, i looked great behind it) and had zero issues after that. 

Mish, i get my gt back from steve soon, i will test the card in my gt and on my grafx. so far i have only got the card working on my duo-r. I did have it in my grafx but thats is when i was having trouble loading roms. I suspect that now that i have ironed out the rom issue that it would work in my grafx as well.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 01:57:23 PM
i don't have 7 pro, so no xp mode for me. also don't have a windows xp machine in my home, nor know friends that have one handy. so i guess it's no go for me basically. anyone wanna buy this new brick i have?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 02:16:18 PM
dont give up yet, there is another work around i just have to find it. i will get back to you.

Edit: here is some information that might help, it seems that older software might help.

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php?topic=6695.0

Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
the furthest i have gotten is having no error messages in Neo2 Pro Manager, though i cannot do anything at all.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
here is another one i found, apparently this is the latest software available. i dont even have this yet.

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,7346

dont plug in the device before you install the software, only after. I was able to get it to work in windows 7. my issue was that the usb kept timing out before i could format. if you read down, and you can format they recommend doing a low level format to fix the problem.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 02:55:29 PM
was able to get a terribly out of shape xp computer, seems to flash ok but when i load a game on my TG-16, it either goes to a black screen or starts freaking out like an old arcade game startup. bloody wolf just makes a crazy noise forever, even after resetting the cart. no idea what's happening here.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 03:01:33 PM
gotta clean the headers off the roms using the utilities i linked to also select the region for the console your going to burn for, not the region of the roms your using. select them before adding roms in utility.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 05, 2012, 03:26:47 PM
actually using a nointro set and everything IS prepped correctly, what i did wrong was not disconnecting my turbo cd first, which makes me feel silly. but now it's working! yay, awesome, and also thanks!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 05, 2012, 03:33:16 PM
glad i could help
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on March 05, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
Got mine on Saturday! Thx a lot Mishran, very awesome of you.

...sounds like it's a bit frustrating to get workin tho, as far as on the computter side of things. Can't wait to get this sucker up and running!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 06, 2012, 03:37:57 AM
Again, I apologize for the delay with these carts, guys. I have 9 carts that will get shipped out today.

EDIT: Please check the first post to see which carts are getting shipped.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on March 06, 2012, 06:23:07 AM
Mishran, you got a PM with my shipping adress!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 06, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
if anyone is having issues, i have not had one single rom not work from the no intro set. japanese ones running without any mods or header removal on a US turbo. cannot get the official loader to work though, does neopce 1.1 (think that's what it's called) format the card at all?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 07, 2012, 03:25:23 AM
mrhaboobi, kiketonto, and c0ldb33r, your carts will ship out today.

All that is left is xelement5x and I'm finished! :dance:

I'll tell you, I'm glad... This has been a little of a hassle, but well worth it.

I wound up personally absorbing the $75.00 surcharge that IC2005 slapped on my bill. For both my cart as well as the extra, I paid $110.00 a piece. :(

All pouting aside, I hope everyone enjoys their flash cart. I personally have been using mine like crazy. Ripped a new one into Magical Chase's bum on my modded Core last night... :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 07, 2012, 03:42:52 AM
i would gladly throw you an extra few bucks to help make up for that surcharge, the least i could do since you got this whole ball rolling
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 07, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
if anyone is having issues, i have not had one single rom not work from the no intro set. japanese ones running without any mods or header removal on a US turbo. cannot get the official loader to work though, does neopce 1.1 (think that's what it's called) format the card at all?

I've gotten every US title to work except for Final Lap Twin. Still freezes at the menu...
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 07, 2012, 04:05:45 AM
final lap twin working on mine, PMed you a couple links mishran
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on March 07, 2012, 07:13:09 AM
Hey mate, im sure if we all sent a couple of bucks we can cover that 75 bill for you..
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on March 07, 2012, 07:48:37 AM
Just sent the last payment, alone with a PM to you with my address. 

Thanks again for organizing this!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Necromancer on March 07, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
I wound up personally absorbing the $75.00 surcharge that IC2005 slapped on my bill.

Well that's just shitty.  What did they say the surcharge was for?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Gogan on March 07, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
I will help pay for the surcharge too. You went above and beyond, and should not have to pay anything extra.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on March 07, 2012, 12:20:27 PM
I wound up personally absorbing the $75.00 surcharge that IC2005 slapped on my bill.

I want to help also, every person who has ordered one should share the 75$ between them.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Frank_fjs on March 07, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
What on earth was the surcharge for? I've never encountered such a thing, you buy something at a set price, pay for it and that's the end of it.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 07, 2012, 12:45:33 PM
What on earth was the surcharge for? I've never encountered such a thing, you buy something at a set price, pay for it and that's the end of it.

Something to do with the payment method, which was a credit card through paypal. If I knew about it before I collected everyone's money, I likely never would have bothered with the group buy. It's all said and done though, and isn't worth me fussing over. I'm planning on selling the extra cart which will help. Might have to attempt to sell at higher than I paid for it though. Anyone wanna buy a flash cart for $100 shipped? :P
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Frank_fjs on March 07, 2012, 01:18:15 PM
Let me guess, they charged you 5% of the total order just to use PayPal? I hate it when retailers do that, it's such a crock.

How much did it work out to be per person including postage? Doesn't seem like you would have saved a lot of money for the group buy.

Who chipped in for the spare cart, everyone or just you? If everyone, doesn't that mean you pretty much got it for free, which should offset the hidden surcharge?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 07, 2012, 01:22:15 PM
thanks again Mishran for organizing the buy!!!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on March 07, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Let me guess, they charged you 5% of the total order just to use PayPal? I hate it when retailers do that, it's such a crock.

How much did it work out to be per person including postage? Doesn't seem like you would have saved a lot of money for the group buy.

Who chipped in for the spare cart, everyone or just you? If everyone, doesn't that mean you pretty much got it for free, which should offset the hidden surcharge?

man, thats a bit rough questioning mishran.. your name isnt even on the buy list so why are you concerned.. If he got a free cart out of it then good luck to him, he did the work, and took the risk.. he saved me money regardless
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Frank_fjs on March 07, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Sorry, wasn't implying anything or trying to sound harsh, merely asking a question. Happy to edit/delete my post if it causes offence.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 07, 2012, 01:31:07 PM
I will help pay my share, the surcharge is bogus.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 07, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
also - i think we can pitch in for the surcharge, but I would give IC2005 some sh** for not making that clear. That's pretty bogus.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 07, 2012, 02:47:59 PM
Let me guess, they charged you 5% of the total order just to use PayPal? I hate it when retailers do that, it's such a crock.

How much did it work out to be per person including postage? Doesn't seem like you would have saved a lot of money for the group buy.

Who chipped in for the spare cart, everyone or just you? If everyone, doesn't that mean you pretty much got it for free, which should offset the hidden surcharge?

I sent everyone a copy of the receipt I received when I made the purchase. Any one of them can do the math and tell you I paid for the extra card. The shipping charge dropped by $.20 a person as more carts were added to the list. That would be what, $4.00? Certainly not enough to buy a flash cart.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on March 07, 2012, 03:16:28 PM
Its a good thing you can download the drivers. I think someone jizzed on my driver disc.

The Neo Team is currently slaving away in their basement assembling your flash carts.

Complete with greasy pizza fingerprints and cigarette ash.  :mrgreen:

I remember when I got mine, I swear it had tire marks on the back and was covered in dust and dirt. It's like when they field tested it, they actually took it out into a field.

...
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 08, 2012, 05:54:06 AM
The final flash cart has been sent off to its new owner and my job here is done! Thanks guys for helping to make this go as smooth and painless as possible. :clap:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 08, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
I would like to send thanks to henrycsc for donating towards the surcharge that IC2005 slapped on our order. Wasn't expected, but definitely appreciated. :D
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 08, 2012, 03:37:59 PM
I got my gt back from steve today and tested the flash cart in it. It worked flawlessly in my gt, in my turbo, and in my duo-r.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tggodfrey on March 08, 2012, 08:11:22 PM
A lot of retailers are pulling this kind of thing with Credit cards and online payments.  As i understand it (and correct em if i am wrong) a retailer must pay a fee whenever they accept a credit card.  Rather than just deal with the fee and file it on thier taxes they charge the buyer a fee (usually 3%) and turn around and file the credit card company's fee on their taxes.....lol  We as consumers are getting screwed once again.

We are all familier with paypal fees as well, same difference.  A while back Paypal added a clause to their policies that the seller could not charge the buyer with an addional fee to cover the paypal fees but honestly I dont see how paypal has any right to make such a statement.

Either way with a couple dollar fee its still not bad.  I dont see why you quit taking pre orders after 20 people chose to buy in and then you had to wait for payment.  I am sure quite a few other people would have joined in on this and paid immediately, me included.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 09, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
I dont see why you quit taking pre orders after 20 people chose to buy in and then you had to wait for payment.  I am sure quite a few other people would have joined in on this and paid immediately, me included.

Ever heard of "Credit Limit"? I planned to pay with a credit card because they only took payment by card and I came close to reaching mine. Why not take the initiative to start another group buy like I did?

Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on March 09, 2012, 04:17:54 AM
Do you already have a replacement on the way for the broken card you received?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 09, 2012, 05:46:29 AM
The card isn't broke. It's one of those finicky carts that only work on certain systems. I figure ill toss it up on eBay when I get the time. Between renovations on my new house and my job, don't have much spare time.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 09, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
got mine in yesterday and I'm going to try it out tonight. thanks again Mishran for taking the time and putting up the funds to make this happen. I know I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 09, 2012, 09:51:17 AM
got mine in yesterday and I'm going to try it out tonight. thanks again Mishran for taking the time and putting up the funds to make this happen. I know I really appreciate it!

Not a problem, bro. Always glad to help out the community any way I can. O:)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 09, 2012, 11:55:53 AM
id like to hook a scope to the finicky card and findout whats not right
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on March 10, 2012, 07:13:35 AM
I hope the folks who pledged to help with the surcharge follow-through and help out Mishran.

I'm going to send PayPal for my share of the surcharge.

Thanks again Mishran (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png).
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on March 10, 2012, 07:20:51 AM
I already had, but I think I may have short changed him and have to send mor, for some reason I calculated it wrong, bloody head cold messing with brain :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on March 10, 2012, 05:07:47 PM
I already had, but I think I may have short changed him and have to send mor, for some reason I calculated it wrong, bloody head cold messing with brain :)


Thank you (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png). If everyone just pitches in a few dollars, everyone can be happy.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 10, 2012, 05:17:24 PM
Pitched in
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on March 10, 2012, 06:38:10 PM
Pitched in


(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 10, 2012, 11:34:12 PM
Another big heart felt thanks to everyone who is sending me a few bucks towards the surcharge. Again, I never expected anyone to send any more money, but it is most definitely appreciated. :clap:

Little update on the extra cart I ordered. Got the flash cart working on my TE. There can only be one of a few reasons the cart hadn't worked on it before...
   1. The little bastard is playing games with my head [-X
   2. I accidently set the region type incorrectly prior to flashing :oops:
   3. The magical flash cart fairy came to my house and blessed the cart with his/her magical pixie powers 8-[
   4. The flasher did not burn the information to the flash cart properly the first time :-k
   5. I am a dumbass... #-o

While option #5 seems the most likely, that doesn't explain the carts inconsistancy. Think I may send it back and get a replacement just to play it safe.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 11, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
Just read about the surcharge, so much for the "Bulk discount" if they decide they want to just charge extra fees. Anyway enough ranting, I'll paypal you some more monies later in the week, you definitely shouldn't have to pay it all yourself.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on March 11, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
I wasn't involved in this, but this "surcharge" nonsense really sounds like a legitimate scam. It's like a bait-and-switch. They rope you into buying a large quantity on the premise you'll be getting a per-item discount, then they tack on a bullshit "surcharge" that essentially nullifies the discount? That's not just false advertising, it's unscrupulous.

If I had in any way been involved in this buy, I would have told them to go to straight to hell at the first mention of any "surcharge" of this magnitude. If the things ended up costing the same in the end as if you'd bought them all separately, you really got screwed because not only did they cheat you out of a discount, you had to go through the gigantic hassle of organizing a group buy, sorting, testing, and forwarding.

Hopefully you guys still got some sort of small discount after all was said and done. We need to remember this for future reference, however.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 12, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
I wasn't involved in this, but this "surcharge" nonsense really sounds like a legitimate scam. It's like a bait-and-switch. They rope you into buying a large quantity on the premise you'll be getting a per-item discount, then they tack on a bullshit "surcharge" that essentially nullifies the discount? That's not just false advertising, it's unscrupulous.

If I had in any way been involved in this buy, I would have told them to go to straight to hell at the first mention of any "surcharge" of this magnitude. If the things ended up costing the same in the end as if you'd bought them all separately, you really got screwed because not only did they cheat you out of a discount, you had to go through the gigantic hassle of organizing a group buy, sorting, testing, and forwarding.

Hopefully you guys still got some sort of small discount after all was said and done. We need to remember this for future reference, however.

It had nullified the discount for 2 out of the 21 carts. If I hadn't gone through all the crap of organizing, collecting money, etc. I would have said screw it and not even purchased them. I had many individuals depending on me and I wasn't gonna let them down. Perhaps that makes me more an idiot than a saint. I'll accept that because now there are 20 more people out there, myself included, that wanted and now own a flash cart. But ill tell you now, I won't ever be doing something like this again. I also never asked for anyone to send extra funds to help with the charge. I don't want anyone to think I'm the one doing the scamming. If I was going to do that, I'd have disappeared off the face of this forum after I had collected enough free cash to pay off my car.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 12, 2012, 06:57:09 AM
ignore the criticism mish. no one thinks your scamming and we are greatfull you took the reigns on this.  Everybody is an armchair quarterback and could have done a better job if in your shoes....and blah blah blah. They dont know, they are just talking.  Thank you for doing it, sorry it went sour.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: xelement5x on March 12, 2012, 10:29:39 AM
I thought you were going to send the other card in for repair, but if not then I would contact PayPal about this vendor charging you extra just to use their service.  If you're lucky, PayPal will credit it back to you since this is a big no no for the vendor, or you could just mention to the vendor that you're going to bring it up to PayPal and show them your invoice. 

I've discovered a lot of vendors are happy to "return" the surcharge to you if you make a stink about it or bring it up to PayPal.  It's in their best interest to as well because they can get their account suspended if they're breaking the PayPal regulations.  I've had sellers from China pull this crap before as well and the instant I mention that I'm going to bring it up to PayPal I get and apology and a credit. 

I don't blame you if you don't want to go through the hassle, but it's just my 2c what I've done in the past.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on March 12, 2012, 12:38:07 PM
ignore the criticism mish. no one thinks your scamming and we are greatfull you took the reigns on this.  Everybody is an armchair quarterback and could have done a better job if in your shoes....and blah blah blah. They dont know, they are just talking.  Thank you for doing it, sorry it went sour.
if you're refering to nat's comment - I don't think it was meant as a criticism of mish or of the bulk order process, but rather just the retailer.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 12, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
I hope you didn't take my response the wrong way! I was only complaining about the company you bought the cards from. Not being more upfront about their fees. If it only nullifies the discount on 2 cards thats a lot better than what I originally thought. And there is no reason why you should have to pay those fees all on your own, I'll be happy to chip in my share at the very least. Like I said before I really appreciate all of the work you put into making this happen.

BTW, is anyone having trouble getting games to work on this thing? I've been trying different romsets, patching, reformatting with no success so far. the most I've gotten is a scrambled Outrun title screen.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 12, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
I've had 99.8% success rate so far with over 200 tested games. Only one I couldn't get to work is final lap twin. Are you making sure to choose the proper region for your system? You'll also have to make sure the header is removed. Sometimes the flash cart doesn't entirely remove all the data from the previous flashing. I've had space harrier load when I chose cadash for example. Try formatting the cart before flashing.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 12, 2012, 04:03:16 PM
well i just downloaded the No-Intro pce set, and I'll start removing headers. it didn't work for my outdated romset. I've just been doing the standard format options.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 13, 2012, 05:02:50 AM
OK, so I figured out my problem - the Neo PC-E Flash Cart hates my PC Engine. Its an original white model, region modded. No matter what I try the games don't work, but the menu screen always starts up. I reformatted and flashed for USA and tried in my Turboexpress and every game played fine :( . Is there any modification I can do to my system to get this to work? I kinda have to use this specific system because its region modded and hooked up to rgb, so I may end up selling my cart if I can't find a solution.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 13, 2012, 07:31:52 AM
what region mod do you have? as i have heard of issues with some.
so far from what ive heard mine/BlueBMW's mod chips seem to work well with it
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 13, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
Mish, i sent you a pm, please contact me. thanks.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 14, 2012, 11:32:06 AM
what region mod do you have? as i have heard of issues with some.
so far from what ive heard mine/BlueBMW's mod chips seem to work well with it

its a D-Lite region mod board
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 14, 2012, 01:16:01 PM
it may be time to update your mod board
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on March 14, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
I got mine todaay. I got it installed okay but games have serious graphics glitches or crash. Im using a nointro set but maybe still need to edit the roms. I dunno.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: tiptopjames on March 14, 2012, 05:35:51 PM
I got mine todaay. I got it installed okay but games have serious graphics glitches or crash. Im using a nointro set but maybe still need to edit the roms. I dunno.
are you by chance connected to a cd unit or using a third party adapter?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 14, 2012, 06:23:52 PM
when it comes to region mods shorter wires and less resistance is better.
the old chip based region mod is spec'd for 50ohms Resistance.
the new chip is 4ohms. (over 10 times better)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on March 14, 2012, 11:04:27 PM
are you by chance connected to a cd unit or using a third party adapter?
nope just a coregrafx with a region mod recently installed by bluebmw. i can test it with a stock tg16 or pce duo
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 15, 2012, 02:05:54 AM
please do.
also try both regions on your CG
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Terminarcade on March 15, 2012, 05:26:38 AM
This was a pain in the ass to install on Win7... but at least I think I got most of it figured out. For now all the jap games work perfect in the original white Pce, but no luck with US games. Didint have enough time to mess around with it tho... I guess I have to select JAPAN region for each US rom before burning it to the cart?
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 15, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
You have to select the region of the system your going to play it on, not the region of the rom your using. You can mix us and japanese roms on the card, and put them in either us or japanese systems as long as you select the region of the system before you load the roms.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Sparky on March 15, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
got mine today... fuk ya :)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Terminarcade on March 16, 2012, 05:21:39 AM
You have to select the region of the system your going to play it on, not the region of the rom your using. You can mix us and japanese roms on the card, and put them in either us or japanese systems as long as you select the region of the system before you load the roms.

I did set the region to japan, on the right side of the window in that manager software prog, is it all there is to it? I guess not since US games wont start up... im either stuck in the menu(need to reset manually) or some weird display or loud sounds (also need to reset manually). Im using the (no-intro) set of roms and all the japanese games work very well so far. I read somewhere that I need to edit the US roms in order to play them in my jap PCE. This shit is drivin me insane...
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 16, 2012, 05:54:59 AM
That's odd, I used the nointro roms and had no issues with any US game other than FLT. No hacking, modding, mirroring, etc. to the roms themselves. Just set the region, burned, and played. Only played around with my TE and region modded Core though. Results may vary from system to system I suppose. Have to break out the SG and try the roms on it. :-k
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: HercTNT on March 16, 2012, 08:41:21 AM
after switching to the no intro roms i get the same results as Mishran. there are no mods or special tricks. did you use the software on the cd, or did you download the latest software provided on the links a few pages back. Its my understanding that newer software is much more stable.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 16, 2012, 11:18:53 AM
I actually used the software supplied on the CD to test the carts. It was fast, simple and got the job done. I now use the most recent flashing software and cart BIOS when placing files on my cart. Anyone who has had their cart tested by me should format their cart using the most recent software if your planning to use a more recent BIOS in their cart. You may experience compatibility problems otherwise.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 16, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
I've been using the most recent software/reformatted, etc. you guys having problems sounds similar to me. Just curious, are your systems just console only or are they connected to any cdrom devices? Mine is hooked up to an IFU-30. but my duo works fine and turboexpress. going to dig out my coregrafx if i still have it and see if it will work.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 16, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
I have a PCE CD setup coming my way, thanks to Samurai Ghost. I will try my flash cart on it when it arrives and will provide some feedback. Feel bad seeing you guys having problems with your carts after the money you dished out for them. :( At least we know the flash carts do "work", just not is some setups.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: meka on March 17, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
I've got a 128m+save version, the only problem I've had is installing the drivers, which was a pain in the arse, and some games don't work without striping the headers or doing so other modifications, the forums over at neo helped me to get most games to work fine.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on March 17, 2012, 11:50:26 AM
ignore the criticism mish. no one thinks your scamming and we are greatfull you took the reigns on this.  Everybody is an armchair quarterback and could have done a better job if in your shoes....and blah blah blah. They dont know, they are just talking.  Thank you for doing it, sorry it went sour.
if you're refering to nat's comment - I don't think it was meant as a criticism of mish or of the bulk order process, but rather just the retailer.

Absolutely. I'm upset that Mishran got taken advantage of by the seller, I'm not being an "armchair quarterback."

If anything, I'm saying Mishran is a bigger man than I, because I would have told them to shove it at the first hint of a bogus surcharge.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Duo_R on March 17, 2012, 07:39:08 PM
Thanks again Mish, even with the money that i donated for the paypal fee, this was still a nice discount if i had just ordered one. I missed out on a group order years ago and glad this one came together.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 18, 2012, 01:17:35 AM
Well I took the time to at least hook my new PCE CD system up and load up the flash cart. Still worked without problems. Played some Soldier Blade and the first two levels of Altered Beast (CD) using a System Card 1.0 image I put on the cart. AB loaded up and played flawlessly, well, in the sense that it paused and loaded from the CD 50,000 times per level as is the norm. :x

I've had zero hiccups with every system I loaded this cart up on. It sucks that some of you are having such a hard time with it. :(
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on March 18, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
I got my card, thanks. I've been able to make it work with my TE but got no luck with my TG16 :(
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: neoxeno on March 18, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
I got my card, thanks. I've been able to make it work with my TE but got no luck with my TG16 :(

Update: I just found out something. I'm using a turbo booster plus with my tg16. If I remove the TBP from my TG, the card is working. So this card won't work with a Turbobooster Plus.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on March 18, 2012, 02:57:50 PM
Tried my card with my core II in the same interface system with no issues. I know it was mentioned my problem might be the region mod board but at least it rules out the ifu for me.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: esteban on March 19, 2012, 08:54:47 PM
I got my card, thanks. I've been able to make it work with my TE but got no luck with my TG16 :(

Update: I just found out something. I'm using a turbo booster plus with my tg16. If I remove the TBP from my TG, the card is working. So this card won't work with a Turbobooster Plus.

TurboBooster!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 20, 2012, 02:35:00 AM
Just wanted an update from all the proud owners of these flash carts, has anyone NOT gotten yours yet? I would suspect they should be in everyone's hands by now.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: mrhaboobi on March 20, 2012, 08:42:06 AM
Just wanted an update from all the proud owners of these flash carts, has anyone NOT gotten yours yet? I would suspect they should be in everyone's hands by now.

Just got mine yesterday ;) thanks so much mate, well wrapped ;)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: emartin373 on March 20, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
Got mine. Card works good with what I've tried.

Thanks again Mishran!!
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on March 21, 2012, 07:51:03 AM
Still waiting for mine. But I'm in Spain, I guess that is normal.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: meka on March 29, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
I have a 128+ save version of the flash cart and I've had problems with the reset button on my gt. I don't know if its my gt but all the caps have been replaced but if I use the reset button the picture when I play another game gets all distorted and the borders on the right and left side come in, luckly it is ok now but just a word of warning for using the reset button on a gt, but I've had no problems using the reset button on my Duo, Pc Engine and Turbo Grafx.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 29, 2012, 07:53:49 PM
you should never use a reset button on any TG/PCE.
the reset controller wasnt wired for it, so it causes a momentary short in the system
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: Mishran on March 30, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
I believe he is referring to the reset button on the flash cart. It doesn't cause the system to reset, but the flash cart itself. I would hope that it wouldn't cause a problem with the system, but I'm not overly familiar with the cart, so who knows.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: meka on March 30, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
Yes I was referring to the reset button on the flash cart, and it only caused problems of the gt, nothing else.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 30, 2012, 07:39:41 AM
im just not sure how its wired
it  likely is a system reset
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: kiketonto on March 30, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Still waiting for mine. But I'm in Spain, I guess that is normal.
Yes! I got mine too!
Mishran, send you a PM
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on March 31, 2012, 04:15:43 AM
I've tried my cart is a few systems with mixed results.

At the end of the day., it works 100% with my PCE GT, so I'm happy :)

I've put up a video outlining my attempts with the coregrafx, PCE duo and tg16:
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 31, 2012, 06:11:42 AM
i would guess your roms were loading in PCE mode on the TG16.
the US games will refuse to run unmodified on un-modded PCE systems (due to the PIN29 lockout)
good to hear its working on your GT.
what mod is in the CG (chip/butten etc)
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on March 31, 2012, 06:55:58 AM
The CG region mod was installed by BlueBMW and works great. Its a switch mounted on the side of the console.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: nat on March 31, 2012, 07:43:23 AM
It all goes back to the weak data line/power line/whatever on the cart slot. These things are super-sensitive and it's just the luck of the draw what systems it will work on, and what systems it won't.

One thing I will say from the video, NeoTeam have at least updated the menu since I bought mine. The menu on mine is just a blank blue screen with a single line of text for the ROM name that you can change by pressing up/down. Also, mine doesn't have any sort of "SAVE" options.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: thesteve on March 31, 2012, 08:24:32 AM
so the GT and the CG are running the same chip mod as each other.
its still a mystery then
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: incrediblehark on April 01, 2012, 09:30:29 AM
I think that's a custom menu made by one of the forum members on the neo flash site, so its nothing they officially updated.
Title: Re: Gauging interest for a group buy for Neo Flash Cart
Post by: c0ldb33r on April 01, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
I think that's a custom menu made by one of the forum members on the neo flash site, so its nothing they officially updated.
Correct- I got it from their forums - it's just a menu graphics really. It looks like a tg16 so I like it :)