PCEngineFans.com - The PC Engine and TurboGrafx-16 Community Forum
Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Shrapnoid on February 04, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Title: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 04, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Let's take a look, shall we?
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Digi.k on February 04, 2012, 11:21:10 AM
well I had KFC earlier in a restaurant because it started to snow and needed some shelter.. stomach and bowels not feeling well now..
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 04, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
I think if it could put people in the hospital I would have been there many, many times by now as a direct result.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: TheClash603 on February 04, 2012, 11:50:03 AM
It is delicious and good in moderation.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 11:51:28 AM
I would think that anything fast food wise if eaten to much would eventually get you, say in 20 to 30 years. Then again that would go for anything with enough fat to stop your heart. then there is weird crap like this http://news.softpedia.com/news/McDonald-s-Happy-Meal-Never-Goes-Bad-Nutritionist-Proves-137929.shtml
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: nat on February 04, 2012, 12:48:44 PM
I think I'll go grab me some Burger King for dinner.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 04, 2012, 12:52:21 PM
"Expirament"
sounds scien-f*ckin'-tific!
Fast foods fine as long as you aren't wackin down 2 super size meals a day, every day.
I eat fast food 2-3 times a week. It's usually like 3 gorditas and nacho supreme, or a chicken nugget value meal, or maybe a bigmac one.
healthy food can put you in the hospital too. If you eat too many apples, you can die.
If you drink too much water, you can die.
Everything can kill you.
I've seen people go to McDonalds when its that "buy a bigmac meal, get another bigmac for 30 cents" thing, and wack down 4 bigmacs and wonder why they have chest pains though.
I want a Bigmac now. f*ck this thread.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 12:59:11 PM
Arkhan, its funny you mention the water thing. I had no idea that was possible till i saw this
well I had KFC earlier in a restaurant because it started to snow and needed some shelter.. stomach and bowels not feeling well now..
Oh, man! I wish you hadn't said that! I got an awful and I *do* mean AWFUL case of food poisoning from a KFC once. The pain was so, intense that I literally thought that I would end up in the hospital within the week and die there.
I've never felt anything so miserably painful in my life except for maybe a kidney stone attack.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: BigusSchmuck on February 04, 2012, 02:16:38 PM
Fast food makes you shit. Enough said.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Tatsujin on February 04, 2012, 02:18:03 PM
is the bigmac the best you get in the USA? I didn't had one for years, because there is constantly much better stuff out than the big one.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 02:19:02 PM
How true that is. have some white castle burgers. You will learn real quick why they are called "sliders".
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 04, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
How true that is. have some white castle burgers. You will learn real quick why they are called "sliders".
I don't have that issue. I can eat like 20 of those things and be fine. PUSSIES
I gotta side with ark, i copied the meal from the end of the first harold and kumar movie. for the uninitiated, that's 30 sliders, 5 french fries, and 4 large cherry cokes though i didn't get the 4 cokes, cause y'know, refills.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 03:58:46 PM
Damn! I stand corrected. If I even attempted that I would die. I willfully accept pussy status, and bow before superior gluttons.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: bartre on February 04, 2012, 05:24:02 PM
fwiw, i did spend the next two days not eating...
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 04, 2012, 08:01:08 PM
I'm not here to defend McDonalds, but the speed at which food rots has absolutely nothing to do with how good or bad it is for you. Nothing whatsoever.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 04, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Only if you eat too much. Like anything.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 10:29:01 PM
True, the rate at which something rots does not mean its bad, but it does give a good indication of what it might be made of. If the fat dont get you, the chemicals will.
Its my understanding that honey is the only known food that never goes bad, anything else is unnatural.
Unnatural is an easy word to envoke a negative feeling. But unnatural doesn't always equal bad for you.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 04, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
right, i didnt quite mean it like that, that was kinda a blanket statement. At any rate, my main point was the chemicals that mcdonalds uses in its products in reference to the happy meal.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: RegalSin on February 04, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
KFC is not really that bad at all, it is just the usage of gravey. What really put KFC in the grave is mistreatment of chickens.
This video was an old video. This is also an old problem. Years ago back in 1989, the news reported that Mcdonalds french fries are made of silicone, or steraphone ( or something like that ). That time I was thinking to myself ( when I did not understand anything, Mcdonald fries are fake ).
More recently a woman in Europe, passed out, and it was discovered her mother has been feeding her nothing but chicken-Mcnuggets. Yes those same ones.
Speaking of unhealthy it is found that drinking soda for long periods of time will weaken bones. Some people it is faster then others. Because of the excess sugar and ammounts of carbon. Weak bones and weak teeth.
It is like the rings in a tree, or tusks in an Elephant. Your bones are evidence of continuesly being damaged over time.
Quote
I don't have that issue. I can eat like 20 of those things and be fine. PUSSIES
Once you become 26 ( the age where marienes does not want you, which is the commercial old age in the west ( which it is not ) ) you will start seeing signs of the damage those kinda foods will do to your body. You will not notice it but it will be on a microscopic level. Your body will reflect the constant usage over time.
It is like the same thing with people who use un-othro dox methods to gain muscle mass. They all are die early.
100 years on this planet is not a long time at all. A 200 year old man also went missing in my area. It was on television and the radio for a long time. A 200 year old living man. A 300 year old man was reported on television, living in nothing but greens and is still climbing trees.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 05, 2012, 12:18:56 AM
WOW! Regal, I defer to your superior intellect. After that, I got nothing :)
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Senshi on February 05, 2012, 02:16:52 AM
is the bigmac the best you get in the USA? I didn't had one for years, because there is constantly much better stuff out than the big one.
Tats, i think there are many fast food restaurants i put above Mcdonalds as far as burgers go. Some are national chains and some are in one specific region.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: VenomMacbeth on February 05, 2012, 04:54:00 AM
I'd be dead. I go to McDonalds & order like 5 McDoubles at least once a month. Thank god for my ridiculous metabolism only allowing me to weigh 5 lbs. -_-
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: blueraven on February 05, 2012, 05:28:37 AM
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
I'm laughing so hard I can't even respond to this thread.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 05, 2012, 06:21:43 AM
Well, guys, I have decided to cut junk food out of my menu except for on the weekend and I've been dieting during the week on salads, baked fish, corn, mushrooms and garlic. I've also cut out soft drinks and mostly drink spring water.
Not only am I beginning to feel younger but, healthier, happier and loosing weight at a rapid rate.
Trying to eat like Goku, Coop and Pac-Man is nothing to be proud of and sooner or later you'll regret trying to achieve that "Fat Albert" or "I can eat anything I want and not gain an ounce" status.
I used to be a skinny guy who bragged that way and made fun of fat people too. It came back on me and I deserved it.
Don't be naive. Take care of your body and it will take care of you.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 05, 2012, 06:40:13 AM
Why do you choose spring water? Is it just a taste thing or do you believe it's better for you?
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 05, 2012, 06:47:22 AM
Why do you choose spring water? Is it just a taste thing or do you believe it's better for you?
Well, it does taste a little better and it seems like it should be better, coming from a spring and all instead of that nasty ol' tap water but, who knows?
Anyone can put water in a bottle and print words on the label about how it comes from a natural spring in the Blue Ridge mountains and is bottled at the source and so on.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Vecanti on February 05, 2012, 07:12:37 AM
Why do you choose spring water? Is it just a taste thing or do you believe it's better for you?
Well, it does taste a little better and it seems like it should be better, coming from a spring and all instead of that nasty ol' tap water but, who knows?
Anyone can put water in a bottle and print words on the label about how it comes from a natural spring in the Blue Ridge mountains and is bottled at the source and so on.
I've never understood the desire for bottled water. At least in the UK (not sure about US) tap water is subject to stricter regulations, and studies have shown that it often contains a lot more bacteria than tap water. The whole spring water thing is a marketing gimmick. And let's not forget all the waste plastic bottles that are generated by this bottled water.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: nat on February 05, 2012, 07:18:29 AM
Last night I picked up a Chef's Choice Burger and fries from Burger King in honor of this thread.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Burnt Lasagna on February 05, 2012, 08:23:43 AM
Can fast food put you in the hospital? I'll have to get back to you on that one after I'm done eating my Baconator. (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nmgAhHRZ2bI/Su8DPXvhE-I/AAAAAAAAAFc/73YgZsn-lfk/s1600/doubletriple_baconator.jpg) hmmm, tasy.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: VenomMacbeth on February 05, 2012, 08:35:22 AM
Can fast food put you in the hospital? I'll have to get back to you on that one after I'm done eating my Baconator. (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nmgAhHRZ2bI/Su8DPXvhE-I/AAAAAAAAAFc/73YgZsn-lfk/s1600/doubletriple_baconator.jpg) hmmm, tasy.
EPIC WIN!!!
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: blueraven on February 05, 2012, 08:58:43 AM
Well, guys, I have decided to cut junk food out of my menu except for on the weekend and I've been dieting during the week on salads, baked fish, corn, mushrooms and garlic. I've also cut out soft drinks and mostly drink spring water.
Not only am I beginning to feel younger but, healthier, happier and loosing weight at a rapid rate.
Trying to eat like Goku, Coop and Pac-Man is nothing to be proud of and sooner or later you'll regret trying to achieve that "Fat Albert" or "I can eat anything I want and not gain an ounce" status.
I used to be a skinny guy who bragged that way and made fun of fat people too. It came back on me and I deserved it.
Don't be naive. Take care of your body and it will take care of you.
I wont make fun of people for their weight, it's horrifically insensitive, and I know a lot of people who are struggling with losing inches off of their waists (except Chris Christie, the NJ Governor. He is a f*cking lardass. And If I can't say that the terrorists have won.)
I still have the occasional batch of french-fries from In-N-Out.
Soda is the biggest culprit, even Diet soda causes your body to retain water. When I hit my late 20's, I cut soda, started working out, and drastically changed my diet paying attention to food allergies. Fueling properly isn't something you can do on McShit or wherever.
If I told people what my diet was like, I'd probably get called a tree-hugging hippy or some other such nonsense, so here we go. My "Junk Food" is the occasional Deli Sandwich (not subway) or home-cooked cajun/creole food (i.e. jumbalaya, etoufee, red beans & rice with hot sauce, gumbo, a crawfish po' boy, etc.). Other than that, I eat mostly vegan or vegetarian meals during the week with no dairy products.
Note: this image is for visual reference from wikipedia: mine looks 300x more appetizing.
Can fast food put you in the hospital? I'll have to get back to you on that one after I'm done eating my Baconator. (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nmgAhHRZ2bI/Su8DPXvhE-I/AAAAAAAAAFc/73YgZsn-lfk/s1600/doubletriple_baconator.jpg) hmmm, tasy.
About three weeks ago, this pic would have made me drool with a lusty hunger. Now it just looks disgusting. This diet I'm trying out is actually turning me against one of my greatest loves. It's unusual but, it's nice too. I really do feel better and my pants keep falling down.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: vestcoat on February 05, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Yes, fast food/junk food/malnutrition might land you in the hospital. We eat garbage and whichever organ fails first is the "disease" that we get. A third of us suffer from obesity, yet we blame genetics, staple stomachs, and ignore how the conventional diet has changed. Everyone has cancer and we wait for a silver bullet to cure the symptom without looking for a cause.
I've never understood the desire for bottled water. At least in the UK (not sure about US) tap water is subject to stricter regulations, and studies have shown that it often contains a lot more bacteria than tap water. The whole spring water thing is a marketing gimmick. And let's not forget all the waste plastic bottles that are generated by this bottled water.
Bottled water is a gimmick and the amount of plastic waste is insane, but, unfortunately, most of our tap water in the U.S. is fluoridated. I buy gallon jugs of distilled or reverse osmosis water and refill them (hmmm...leaching plastic. yum). Fluoride from coffee shops and restaurants is hard to avoid.
I'm not here to defend McDonalds, but the speed at which food rots has absolutely nothing to do with how good or bad it is for you. Nothing whatsoever.
It's a good indication of both nutritional content and how easily the food can be digested. When the smallest lifeforms can't find anything worth eating, I'm inclined to follow their lead. There's something creepy about french fries that are no longer part of the food chain. Likewise, oils hydrogenated to the point of car wax are unlikely to travel far in the ol' colon.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: RegalSin on February 05, 2012, 10:58:50 AM
Quote
Bottled water
Bottled water is good for many reasons. The water that travels threw the pipes might have a certain amount of acidity ( or was it floride ) inside of it. In villages and undeveloped areas, the water might contain micro-organisms. The flat fact is that water from natural sources will make soft bones, ( and thus damage your teeth ).
Bottled water is sappose to be free of these harmfull contaminents. If they can't get it from Antartica ( which is where they sappose to get it from ), they will get it from nearby lake sources.
However these lake sources, some of which nearby houses recieves and dumps waste in. Some sources.
As the water travels from the north pole, and empties out in the Gulf, it picks up many things.
Mineral water ( the best tasting water in my life ) will often be sweet, and is from a pump. Then of course people baths in the streams, which I do not understand why would you go camping to use soap in a stream.
About plastic bottle water. Plastics are allways moving, so reusing or using plastics is not advised. You can go and find out for yourself.
Bottled water is sappose to be in glass bottles. I forget the name of the water brand but you see it being drinked by celebraties all the time. That is the only real bottled water anybody should be drinking.
Soyilent geens are people. Natural food sources are not among technological advance societies. If so then it is a privlage for those who work extra hard enough, just to live slightly longer.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Tatsujin on February 05, 2012, 11:25:03 AM
So if I don't eat any fast food, I won't ever poop? AWESOME!
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 05, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Careful, Ves. Being informed and trying to inform others is an honorable move but, you have to be careful how much you say and how you say it. I've already learned that the hard way.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 05, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
I live about 5 miles from a water bottling plant called Castle in the clouds. You can actually take a tour of the place and they will show you how they bottle it up. Well atleast how they do it at this place. If you check the bottles they say bottled from PWS. Turns out PWS means Public Water Supply. Sure they filter it and all, but its coming straight from the same tap that everyone else gets their water around here. To be fair most of us were I live have wells, so maybe they do to, i have no idea.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 05, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
True, the rate at which something rots does not mean its bad, but it does give a good indication of what it might be made of. If the fat dont get you, the chemicals will.
Its my understanding that honey is the only known food that never goes bad, anything else is unnatural.
My point is that the human digestive system doesn't utilize random spores from open air to break things down. Obviously McD fries have no trouble being digested by humans since the people who eat the most of them are fat as hell. If they were indigestible you'd just have diarrhea or constipation.
Regarding this thread as a whole: its good that people pay attention to what they eat, but do try to be scientifically informed. The world is full of fat vegetarians and people who's cholesterol is through the roof because they were trying to avoid carbs. Avoid fads (current examples: "gluten free", or anything that sites "glycemic index") and stick with what has always worked; balance your caloric intake with your exercise level, try to match the USRDA, eat a vitamin. The simple basic shit. You can still eat at McDonalds (if, for some f*cking reason, you actually want to) just don't day there 11 times a week.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Burnt Lasagna on February 06, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
I'm generally not that picky when comes to deciding what to eat since I run 8-10 miles every day, so any extra fat I ate I burn off in the run. Mind you I don’t eat fast food regularly but when I do I don’t feel like a bloated sloth for having done so.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 06, 2012, 02:29:52 AM
I cook a lot, and my friends do too, so there's always something good. I had my friends beef bourginion (sp?) for lunch today (no veggies though!) and I have a delicious aubergine lasagna to go home to (cooked for my veggie friend). So in that regard I have a pretty good diet. I try not to snack out too much, and when I do I try to have a youghurt or something healthy. But I do need to eat more veg, and I do get cravings for a chicken royale.
Oh but hell you should see the pizzas I cook. I'd say it's almost as good as you can get outside of a pizza oven. Took me a fair few to nail it down though.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Father5&JoshUnion on February 06, 2012, 03:02:31 AM
Soda is the biggest culprit, even Diet soda causes your body to retain water. When I hit my late 20's, I cut soda, started working out, and drastically changed my diet paying attention to food allergies. Fueling properly isn't something you can do on McShit or wherever.
If I told people what my diet was like, I'd probably get called a tree-hugging hippy or some other such nonsense, so here we go. My "Junk Food" is the occasional Deli Sandwich (not subway) or home-cooked cajun/creole food (i.e. jumbalaya, etoufee, red beans & rice with hot sauce, gumbo, a crawfish po' boy, etc.). Other than that, I eat mostly vegan or vegetarian meals during the week with no dairy products.
This is insane. I hit my late 20s - say 28 and was just sick of being overweight. Cutting Soda was an EPIC win. I dropped 20 lbs within two months, then kicked in some exercise (nothing crazy) and am proud to say I'm in the best shape of my life!! My diet is also very similar to yours....... However, I do splurge with the occasional Subway Tuna Sammich ;)
It's like we're twins BR!
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 06, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
All those health fads are annoying. I like when fat vegetarians tell me that McDonalds is going to make me fat. Eating vegetables covered in ranch dressing and cheese is just as bad, dumbshits. That's why you're a 300lb vegetarian.
I just eat healthy during the week...usually it's like tuna, fruits, salady crap, soup whatnot. It's all pretty decent.
the weekends: Twinkies, slim jims, beefaroni, big macs, whatever. Usually ends up being Rally's or Taco Bell. I don't binge eat the stuff, I just go out and get enough to stop making me hungry.
Bottled water is stupid. I like drinking metal.
I also exercise enough to make me not worry. I'm at the age where I don't have to quite yet, but might as well get a head start.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 06, 2012, 03:14:33 AM
Just like most things Soda is a sometimes treat. I had one today, and it was the first one I've had in weeks. Mind you, I do have a stash of rootbeer (it can be expensive and hard to find in the UK), but it should last a long time.
I don't think I could be a vegetarian, let alone vegan, but there are some things I love making but I know I have to kind of "save up" good food to be allowed it. Once you know what goes in things, you're more inclined to think before shovelling it into your gaping maw. Mac and Cheese is a good case in point, you can't eat that shit every day, but god is it good.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 06, 2012, 03:20:54 AM
I like meat too much to be a tree hugger.
Corndogs and chicken wings = success. Vegetarians are idiots.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 06, 2012, 03:31:10 AM
Corndogs and chicken wings = success. Vegetarians are idiots.
Dude, it's vegans I can't stand. I had what pretty much amounts a flame war on my friends facebook wall. She's a vegan and so are her friends, and they were being all high and mighty about how superior and good they all were. Dicks. I pointed out a huge list of things that meant they were all going to hell, including bottled water, cocacola, driving a car, owning and consumer electronics or cheap clothing, Nikes, drug use etc.
It was as close as you can get to punching someone through the internet. God they pissed me off.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 06, 2012, 03:48:09 AM
I think vegetarians / vegans in general are just stupid. We are made foar teh meats. We have teeth for it. We've been eating it since forever.
That's fine, though. They can be retards all they want. More steak for me.
But what you just described, that is when I really hate a vegan/vegetarian. Eat what you want but don't preach to me that I'm a murderer for eating a cow. That high and mighty vegan foofoo crap makes me really annoyed.
I usually tell these idiots to go tell Mr. Lion that they don't eat meat. I'm sure he'll appreciate your stupidity as he claws your face and eats your insides.
then I tell them bunnies are decapitated by those things that harvest shit out in fields.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 06, 2012, 03:56:01 AM
Corndogs and chicken wings = success. Vegetarians are idiots.
Dude, it's vegans I can't stand. I had what pretty much amounts a flame war on my friends facebook wall. She's a vegan and so are her friends, and they were being all high and mighty about how superior and good they all were. Dicks. I pointed out a huge list of things that meant they were all going to hell, including bottled water, cocacola, driving a car, owning and consumer electronics or cheap clothing, Nikes, drug use etc.
It was as close as you can get to punching someone through the internet. God they pissed me off.
There are some people that just wont listen but, I wouldn't say that all vegans are generally bad. Some of them may honestly believe that they're doing something worth while. It's when they go in to stores and start slapping little stickers on meat products that read "Animals suffered to make this product" that I draw the line.
Seriously. This happened at the Super Wal-Mart Center just up the road a few years ago. I took some of the stickers home with me and put them on my bicycle. Even the butcher in the grocery department had them stuck on his hat.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 06, 2012, 03:57:56 AM
Hah, awesome. You should have stuck one on a dog.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 06, 2012, 03:59:43 AM
then we ordered some KFC and convinced them to deliver it to the venue. We ate KFC while watching the anti KFC video.
Dude, that's amazing. I award you an internet :D
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Burnt Lasagna on February 06, 2012, 05:03:56 AM
This entire thread just makes me think of this song...
Gatto go finish up my tub of lard now. (http://www.texmex.net/Graphics/lard.gif) I've been putting off eating the rest for to long. Thanks to this thread for reminding me :wink:
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: blueraven on February 06, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
All those health fads are annoying. I like when fat vegetarians tell me that McDonalds is going to make me fat. Eating vegetables covered in ranch dressing and cheese is just as bad, dumbshits. That's why you're a 300lb vegetarian.
I just eat healthy during the week...usually it's like tuna, fruits, salady crap, soup whatnot. It's all pretty decent.
the weekends: Twinkies, slim jims, beefaroni, big macs, whatever. Usually ends up being Rally's or Taco Bell. I don't binge eat the stuff, I just go out and get enough to stop making me hungry.
Bottled water is stupid. I like drinking metal.
I also exercise enough to make me not worry. I'm at the age where I don't have to quite yet, but might as well get a head start.
This is insane. I hit my late 20s - say 28 and was just sick of being overweight. Cutting Soda was an EPIC win. I dropped 20 lbs within two months, then kicked in some exercise (nothing crazy) and am proud to say I'm in the best shape of my life!! My diet is also very similar to yours....... However, I do splurge with the occasional Subway Tuna Sammich ;)
It's like we're twins BR!
Lol. Crazy isn't it?
-----
And regarding vegans, I know some who wear wool and aren't B7 deficient. Yes, some, perhaps MANY annoying-ass wingers are SO obsessed with animal rights and the ethics of eating meat, and wear nothing but annoying rayon/polyester jumpsuits and throw PETA literature into your minivan when they pass you on the freeway. Some do it because it because of severe food allergies, and could care less, some because they have to work with animals and it grosses them out, and some do it because it because of the positive energy benefits like training for a marathon or having a low-energy impact on the environment.
I say f*ck it. If it makes you feel good, do it. For my uncle, that was red meat 3 days a week, half a pack of luckies and 2 scotch hi-balls a night.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 06, 2012, 04:14:29 PM
I'm cool with vegetarians/vegans with real reasons for doing it.
Wanting to preach like a pretentious sperm burper is not a real reason.
I know this girl that doesn't eat meat because she gets sick when she does. So she just eats vegetables and shit. Sometimes she'll eat meat, and be like f*ck. DAMNIT.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 06, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
what do you call a vegetarian with the flu?.............................. A SALAD SHOOTER!!! Whoo hoo.......yipee...........eh..........er...nevermind. Yea, i have no problem with how anyone lives their lives as long as they are not trying to push it on me. A friend of mine used to tell me he would pray for me because I did not believe in god and someone had to save my soul. Those kinds are one of the few people that can actually get under my skin, and yet we were still friends. I tolerated it, sometimes.
Zeta, i dont disagree with you at all, but i'm honestly not sure what you said has to do with my point. My point in a nutshell is that it concerns me that some foods have added chemicals to improve shelf life and appearance that go beyond whats printed on the label. Often we dont find out about them until they cause anal leakage, or cancer. Yes, just about anything can be bad for you if not used or eaten properly. Thats not the same thing though as really nasty chemicals thrown into food for who knows what reason. Is it your opinion that Ammonia Hydroxide is no big deal? Does it bother you at all that Europe wont allow Mcdonalds to put that crap in their food, but our FDA will? I have a feeling a happy meal wont look so pristine 6 months later once you remove whats basically a bleaching agent.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 06, 2012, 04:46:12 PM
Whatever McD puts in their fries, they don't do it to "improve shelf life". The fries there only sit in the fry thing for a max of 15 minutes or so. A jug of factory farm milk at the grocery store has WAY more completely f*cked up chemicals in it.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned about food, I'm saying that unless you are informed and on-topic you're just going to eat your way on a wild goose chase. Bullshit is bullshit, period.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 06, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
Right, i agree with that. I have a few friends around here that will only eat "organic" food because its gonna protect them from disease. It drives me batty because the definition of organic varies so much depending on whats being grown, and were its being grown. Not all of it is as pure as they think it is just because its labeled organic.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 06, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
I have to say, one thing I tend to notice the difference in that respect is dairy products. I hardly ever drink organic milk, though I have done, and it is stronger, a hint grassier (not necessarily a good thing - I can only stand skimmed milk, which tastes quite weak), but definitely free range organic eggs over here tend to taste much richer - a really good thing if you're making pasta or an ommelette.
Chickens too tend to taste much nicer the better they've lived (and the more expensive they are)
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 06, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
I will take your word for it. I used to live on a diary farm and we raised chickens. I could not tell the difference.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 07, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
I will take your word for it. I used to live on a diary farm and we raised chickens. I could not tell the difference.
Is that in terms of eggs or chickens? I guess it may be because you've never had really bad side. Incidentally, the FDA insists on washing eggs which we don't in this country, which is why you guys have to store your eggs in the Fridge (we don't).
It may be because I have a good pallete (especially for a smoker), but eggs and chickens = massive difference when it comes to organic + free range Vs battery.
When it comes to organic veg though there's little difference - and I don't mean vs home-grown, which doesn't have the same checks, and things like strawberrys and tomatoes can be fresher, but that an organic supermarket leek compared to a regular supermarket leek are the same damn flavour.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 07, 2012, 12:26:36 AM
True, you aren't likely to find real organic food in a grocery store. You're better off sticking with some heirloom seeds and your own garden, to help avoid the gmo crap.
As far as milk goes, I've read enough and seen enough videos that, I believe that pasteurization, and homogenization kills lactase.
Lactase has been proven to make some people who are lactose intolerant, healthier and even able to tolerate some commercial dairy products.
Okay. You can scream at me now.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2012, 12:26:59 AM
I have no idea honestly, I just may not be able to taste the difference. I'm not saying there isnt one, i may not be able to tell. some people have better senses. I have had fresh chicken and store bought, i have had fresh eggs and store bought. They taste the same to me. Milk on the other hand is a whole different animal (sorry bad pun). Fresh milk is completely different then what you get in the store. I think the culprit is pasteurization. we pasteurize everything over here and it makes it taste like poo. imported cheese is way better tasting than domestic cheese in my opinion for example.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 07, 2012, 01:18:06 AM
Organic food is bullshit. Gimme the chemically altered stuff. I want to grow extra limbs.
I ate organic steak one time. Yknow what it tasted like?
Outback Steakhouse.
"ohhh but the cow got to eat grass and wander around"
that's nice. Then it got shot in the forehead and sliced up. What's the difference. How nice you treat the cow doesn't matter if you're blasting its brains all over a barn wall. It's more like teasing the thing. "Here have a nice life so I can unload my 12 gauge into your face in a month"
and free range chickens. It's an egg. it comes out of the chicken either way. Let it run around and peck grass. Feed it fist fulls of seeds in a barn. Who cares. It's an egg. They all taste the same. I've tried them all. Amish eggs, organic (theyre all organic. aren't they?!), ones from the discount food marts. They all taste like eggs. Whoop. dee. doo. The only difference is, the eggs from Save A Lot cost like 30 cents for 900 of them. The stupid organic ones are like 30$ for half a carton. Once you launch them into a pan they all taste the same. Salty / Garlicky, and then ketchupy when you dip it in the catsoup.
Organic milk is dumb. I want Dairymens blue-cap milk with nesquik in it. Screw this silky soy jive.
Foofoo expensive organic food is a waste of money. My friends mom buys organic black pepper. ITS BLACK PEPPER.
6$ for a frigging shaker of this crap.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Shrapnoid on February 07, 2012, 01:31:24 AM
Well, you know what they say... You *are* what you eat.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: soop on February 07, 2012, 01:46:38 AM
I think vegetarians / vegans in general are just stupid. We are made foar teh meats. We have teeth for it. We've been eating it since forever.
That's fine, though. They can be retards all they want. More steak for me.
But what you just described, that is when I really hate a vegan/vegetarian. Eat what you want but don't preach to me that I'm a murderer for eating a cow. That high and mighty vegan foofoo crap makes me really annoyed.
I usually tell these idiots to go tell Mr. Lion that they don't eat meat. I'm sure he'll appreciate your stupidity as he claws your face and eats your insides.
then I tell them bunnies are decapitated by those things that harvest shit out in fields.
(1) We, as humans, are perfectly designed killing machines. Evolution has perfected every aspect of our physical and structure to intelligently and swiftly kill our opponents, be they human, animal, mineral, or ephemeral.
It is perfectly natural to kill, and I hate how society ("morality") constrains and oppresses my natural right to kill. I mean, some people are REALLY ANNOYING. I should be able to eradicate them, as the Daleks say, on mere whim.
(2) Humans, as social creatures, are perfectly designed to be fodder for the cruelest and most cunning exploiters. We are designed to be exploited. We exist to be exploited. How dare you, Arkhan, invoke BULLS*T notions of "justice" when you are treated unfairly. Life is not fair. That's the point. And you have no right to expect anything but exploitation.
(3) Smile :)
(4) Seriously, though, I'm not going to preach to meat-eaters. But don't call me an idiot or a douchebag, either. Let's have some mutual respect.
(5) Back on topic: I don't think it is good to have too much fast-food. As Zeta said, a balanced diet (the fresher, less poisoned the ingredients, the better) is the most important thing. Certainly enjoy some fast-food if you like it (life should be enjoyed :) ), but don't be completely irresponsible about your diet.
(6) I think I can speak for all vegetarians/vegans when I say that Burgertime! is still an awesome game, we are not offended when Simon Belmont grabs a drumstick, etc.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 07, 2012, 05:25:55 AM
Yeah, human teeth indicate that we are obviously designed to eat meat. However human teeth evolved when rape and murder were a daily normal occurrence and the average life span was 15. Its called "progress".
As for organic stuff: Its depressing that the legal definition of organic is so loose in the US. You can't count on it to mean as much as you'd like. When it comes to milk though there is a HUGE f*cking difference. Factory farm milk has an expiration date of about 2 weeks after you buy it. Organic milk is 4-6 weeks, and even at that point it smells more fresh. This is *without* antibiotics and drugged up cows. Obviously if the factory farm milk rots three times as fast, despite being pumped full of drugs, something is wrong.
I won't go into the details, look it up yourself, but there really is some wrong shut about factory farm milk. The cows' utters are so oversized the milk is already spoiling in the cow, so they have to pump it full of drugs to keep the milk from being really bad right away. Once the milk leaves the cow though they can't control this f*cked up process so it starts to rot right away. Once you've gotten used to organic milk, a fresh jug of factory farm milk smells weird to you even if it just came off the truck.
The eggs, I can't tell the difference. I do buy them though.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: vestcoat on February 07, 2012, 06:03:59 AM
Yeah, human teeth indicate that we are obviously designed to eat meat. However human teeth evolved when rape and murder were a daily normal occurrence and the average life span was 15. Its called "progress".
The human body is a pretty good indicator. On one hand, we still have a few canine teeth, on the other, our colons are so long that meat starts to rot before it reaches the other end (apparently the Inuit actually have shorter colons from their dependency on meat). Ideally, humans are probably supposed to eat nuts and fruit and once in a while get lucky and kill something.
I don't eat much meat because I don't like our production system. That said, I can understand Arkhan's and others' contempt for vegans/vegies: the last wave of dreadlocked, judgmental, anthropomorphizing college students we saw in the early-to-mid 00's were so insufferable they probably caused the current pro-meat backlash. Hipsters proudly eat at McDonalds again, veggie pizza is hard to find, and foofoo wine bistros sell hamburgers for $15.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 07, 2012, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Arkhan
Organic food is bullshit.
^This. Anyone who thinks that organic food will magically make them better is full of it. Full of what, you ask?
Quote
You *are* what you eat.
Then you *are* bullshit. Your body is pretty damn versatile in what it can accept and use to make the proper fuel we need out of. If someone wants to be a vegetarian because they don't like the taste of meat, then that's cool. But if someone is doing it for the supposed health benefits, then screw them! Vegetarian Woody Harrelson, for example, says things like "Every time I ate a burger, I'd get so tired." No, you idiot! You got tired because you smoked a pound of weed every two hours.
I like fruits and a few vegetables, but to be honest, I very rarely eat them. Usually it is meat, processed sugar, fast food and other pure crap. I certainly could be more healthy but I'm still under 200 pounds at 6 feet tall. A little more exercise and a touch less food intake (not much) and I'd be in prime damn shape. Laziness is the biggest factor here, not what foods I am eating.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Bernie on February 07, 2012, 10:09:33 AM
I dont eat food. It makes me poo.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: SNKNostalgia on February 07, 2012, 11:08:06 AM
Sadly I have been gaining weight slowly due to age, diet and mostly physical inactivity. I have been eating more healthy but my age and inactivity outweighs it literally. Winter time, bummed foot for the past 6 months has kept me from being able to get to it with the exercising like I want. I almost never eat fast food on a regular basis.
I may get a Papa Johns pizza once every 6 weeks or eat a few tacos from Taco Bell late night every 2 weeks. Those are usually due to no groceries in my fridge or I am too lazy that particular time to cook a meal. I generally eat low-fat food for the most part, but it is impossible to avoid it really without completely changing what I eat. Giving up a little butter on my veggies is just damn hard for me. I really don't use that much, but it still takes its toll.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
You know Zeta, you make a really good point about the milk. Despite all the stuff they pump into regular milk, that stuff has a very short shelf life. Its the exact opposite of the happy meal. There is one good outcome. You look at all the growth hormones they shove in that stuff and look at how the girls are developing these days, Yikes!!. When I was in high school there was a two or three girls with big boobs and curvy bodies. Now they all look that way!
On a lighter note, we have alot of anti hunters in my area. They crack me up. These people we deal with have a huge problem with you going out and shooting a turkey with a bow and arrow. They see hunting as horrible mistreatment of animals. Then on thanksgiving they go down to the grocery store and buy one and cook it up. Translation (If i dont know how it died, then its ok to eat it. If you want to go out and kill one, your evil)
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: blueraven on February 07, 2012, 01:53:09 PM
I won't eat anything my dog wont eat. He hates mcD's fries. If a DOG won't eat it, it can't be good for you.
I don't know about that. My long gone doggie wouldn't eat any fresh veggie or fruit (except bananas).
I know, don't take it as gospel, but it's interesting, cuzfries taste really good, so you would think he'd mow em down. Lots o fruits n veggies don't have much of a smell, which I would think is why they are turned off by it.
RIP necro's dog
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Arkhan on February 10, 2012, 05:31:32 AM
my dogs wont eat anything thats juicy. If they bite and it sprays/squirts/goes all gooey, they spit it out and walk away.
I gave them both those little red tomatoes one time
that was a mess
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Gogan on February 10, 2012, 05:46:49 AM
Haha, mine stole a taco off my plate as I went to get something to drink. He knew it was wrong, so ate it really fast while I was out of the room. I put REALLY hot sauce on my tacos, so he learned his lesson there.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: guyjin on February 10, 2012, 09:32:26 AM
I don't know about that. My long gone doggie wouldn't eat any fresh veggie or fruit (except bananas).
My late Sadie would eat anything -except- bananas, and peas. Once we put a single pea in a bowl full of mashed potatoes and gravy (one of her favorite table scraps). The bowl was licked clean, except for that single pea. She'd also delicately take the silverware off a plate if you 'served' it to her that way.
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 10, 2012, 10:21:24 AM
I don't know about that. My long gone doggie wouldn't eat any fresh veggie or fruit (except bananas).
For a very brief instant, I read this as "My long gone doggie wouldn't eat any fresh vagina..."
HAHAHAHAHAH!
Title: Re: Is fast food just a little unhealthy or could it put you in the hospital?
Post by: Starfighter on February 21, 2012, 07:36:13 AM
As have been said. Fast food is not very healthy, but that's it.
But our different food industries are the center of many relevant issues so it makes me wonder what more the "people who doesn't give a f*ck", doesn't give a f*ck about. I take ignorance as a sign of weakness. Play hard, think hard. Drink hard. Hehe.