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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: frozenintears on February 04, 2012, 01:38:16 PM
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Hello all!! My name is Dan! I finally found people that share the same passion as I do!!!
I have always loved the Turbo, ever since I was a little kid. While my friends all had Genesis or SNES, I was always the outcast for having the TG-16.
Now many years later I find myself still attached to this console and now have become a collector.
A few months ago I dusted off my old TG-16 console and found a couple of games I had. The idea to become a collector clicked in my mind after seeing that hucard can still be found on ebay. I decided right away that I wanna collect the entire USA library of titles. I know it will take me years to complete, but this is my goal, my passion and my dream.
The best thing happened was when I found this forum. I absolutely had no idea there were people just like me. People that also collect TG-16 related items. I was absolutely stunned and amazed. This has completely made my day!!! I am extremely happy and exited to be a part of this community!!! :D
My collection is small, but here is what I have so far.
TG-16 US console - original ac adaptor and original RF cable
turbo pad
turbo tap
bonk's adventure - hucard only
raiden - hucard only
keith courage in alpha zones - hucard, jewel case and instructions
world class baseball - hucard, jewel case and instructions
vigilante - hucard, jewel case and instrustions
neutopia - jewel case and instructions only. need the hucard
tiger road - jewel case and instructions only. need the hucard
Once again, I am really happy I found this place and I am very glad to be a part of it.
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Welcome to the forum. If you ever want to trade that World Class Baseball, let me know.
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Welcome man! I am sure you can find a lot of what you need for your collection right here in the forums. Keep your eyes on the sales/trades threads, and maybe post a want to buy list as well. :) You will be surprised at how fast you are going to accumulate Turbo stuff by coming here.
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Dont miss the repair threads either. thanks to this website and its members if any of your turbo stuff needs repair someone here can help.
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awesome!!! thank you guys!!!
definitely, I already made a thread of things I need at the moment.
I am so stoked I found this place!!!
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Welcome aboard the crazy train!
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Welcome on here, I do some crazy TG reviews and I collect too so if you need any help just let me know.
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Welcome aboard the crazy train!
thank you sir!
Welcome on here, I do some crazy TG reviews and I collect too so if you need any help just let me know.
thanks! I really appreciate that.
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Welcome man! I am sure you can find a lot of what you need for your collection right here in the forums. Keep your eyes on the sales/trades threads, and maybe post a want to buy list as well. :) You will be surprised at how fast you are going to accumulate Turbo stuff by coming here.
Bernie tells the truth, With all the free raffles and contests not counting resonable sales your collection will double maybe triple by 2013.
Welcome to the funhouse...
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Welcome man! I am sure you can find a lot of what you need for your collection right here in the forums. Keep your eyes on the sales/trades threads, and maybe post a want to buy list as well. :) You will be surprised at how fast you are going to accumulate Turbo stuff by coming here.
Bernie tells the truth, With all the free raffles and contests not counting resonable sales your collection will double maybe triple by 2013.
Welcome to the funhouse...
Thanks! Yeah I noticed! This is by far one of the best online places I have found in a long time!
You guys got something really cool going on here. Good work!!!
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Glad to see you found us!
I'd advise you focus on the fun of gaming though, and not just collecting. A "complete" USA collection isn't actually any more fun to play than a %60 complete USA collection with 50 some imports thrown in. Also, by the time you get around to buying Night Creatures and Darkwing Duck they are going be $1000 a piece.
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Welcome, comrade.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/cooks_transb.gif) I'm sure you will become even more obsessed after just a few short days.
:)
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Glad to see you found us!
I'd advise you focus on the fun of gaming though, and not just collecting. A "complete" USA collection isn't actually any more fun to play than a %60 complete USA collection with 50 some imports thrown in. Also, by the time you get around to buying Night Creatures and Darkwing Duck they are going be $1000 a piece.
ha! thanks for the good advice! I will definitely enjoy playing the games as much as collecting them. The best part is I get to actually play the games, and not just display them. It's a collection with a function. Thats what draws me to it. I also know that I wont be able to complete the entire USA collection. Especially with epic threads like 1250 dollars for just a box of some game lol.
I will be glad to get a bunch of US games with instructions and cases. That would make me happy. Then maybe I will look into getting a CD attachment to my TG-16, and then start collecting some USA CD's. I guess I will get into the whole PC Engine market way later on. It seems like all to much for me as of now. I just wanna take it one step at a time.
Welcome, comrade.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/cooks_transb.gif) I'm sure you will become even more obsessed after just a few short days.
:)
oh, its too late for that. I am already obsessed after reading some really epic threads on here.
Lots of great info on this forum and some of the flame threads are just insanely hillarious. I hope I will not be the one on the receiving end of those. Brutal! lmao :D
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Welcome to the forum dude! You are just getting started with what you have and I would recommend looking into a PC Engine if you really want to get into the good games. And I hope you like shooters because there's tons of great ones!
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When you do finally get a CD attatchment you must and I mean MUST GET GATES OF THUNDER & DRACULA X. Those 2 games alone will have you creaming in your pants. Both the games are nothing bu pure AWESOMENESS.
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When you do finally get a CD attatchment you must and I mean MUST GET GATES OF THUNDER & DRACULA X. Those 2 games alone will have you creaming in your pants. Both the games are nothing bu pure AWESOMENESS.
I will remember that. Thanks!! wrote the names down. thanks dude!
Welcome to the forum dude! You are just getting started with what you have and I would recommend looking into a PC Engine if you really want to get into the good games. And I hope you like shooters because there's tons of great ones!
Thanks for welcoming me.
I would, but PCE has so many games it's a bit overwhelming for a noob like me at this point. That's why I am focusing on the more simple things like US Turbo. Besides, the PCE converter is so expensive it's almost a turnoff for newer collectors and gamers like me.
I will definitely look into purchacing the CoreGrafx or the original PCE in the future for playing PCE games.
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Thanks for welcoming me.
I would, but PCE has so many games it's a bit overwhelming for a noob like me at this point. That's why I am focusing on the more simple things like US Turbo. Besides, the PCE converter is so expensive it's almost a turnoff for newer collectors and gamers like me.
I will definitely look into purchacing the CoreGrafx or the original PCE in the future for playing PCE games.
One of the main reasons to get a PCE is because a lot of the expensive games on TG16 are waaaaaaaay cheaper for PCE versions. For instance, Bonk 3 US will set you back $150 or so while the PCE version will only be about $30 and it's the exact same game with no Japanese skills needed. Don't bother with converters, if you have a basic TG16 that'll handle all of your US hu card games then eventually when you want to get into CD games just get a Japanese Duo variant and you'll be set to play pretty much anything.
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Thanks for welcoming me.
I would, but PCE has so many games it's a bit overwhelming for a noob like me at this point. That's why I am focusing on the more simple things like US Turbo. Besides, the PCE converter is so expensive it's almost a turnoff for newer collectors and gamers like me.
I will definitely look into purchacing the CoreGrafx or the original PCE in the future for playing PCE games.
One of the main reasons to get a PCE is because a lot of the expensive games on TG16 are waaaaaaaay cheaper for PCE versions. For instance, Bonk 3 US will set you back $150 or so while the PCE version will only be about $30 and it's the exact same game with no Japanese skills needed. Don't bother with converters, if you have a basic TG16 that'll handle all of your US hu card games then eventually when you want to get into CD games just get a Japanese Duo variant and you'll be set to play pretty much anything.
oh snap! the japanese Duo plays US CD's?
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Yes, cds are region free! Hu cards are not though. Several members on here can perform region switch mods as well fur your Hu cards.
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Yes, cds are region free! Hu cards are not though. Several members on here can perform region switch mods as well fur your Hu cards.
so basically I can get my US TG-16 modded to play Japanese games?
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While my friends all had Genesis or SNES, I was always the outcast for having the TG-16.
(http://www.indianajones5.com/new_indiana_jones_movie_film/indiana_jones_and_the_last_crusade_ancient_knight_holy_grail_toys.jpg)
You have chosen... wisely!
and welcome aboard to one of the best place on internetz :)
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Thanks for welcoming me.
I would, but PCE has so many games it's a bit overwhelming for a noob like me at this point. That's why I am focusing on the more simple things like US Turbo. Besides, the PCE converter is so expensive it's almost a turnoff for newer collectors and gamers like me.
I will definitely look into purchacing the CoreGrafx or the original PCE in the future for playing PCE games.
One of the main reasons to get a PCE is because a lot of the expensive games on TG16 are waaaaaaaay cheaper for PCE versions. For instance, Bonk 3 US will set you back $150 or so while the PCE version will only be about $30 and it's the exact same game with no Japanese skills needed. Don't bother with converters, if you have a basic TG16 that'll handle all of your US hu card games then eventually when you want to get into CD games just get a Japanese Duo variant and you'll be set to play pretty much anything.
oh snap! the japanese Duo plays US CD's?
Yes and vice versa for the American Duo.
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how about a converter to play PAL hucards on the USA TG-16? Is there such thing?
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how about a converter to play PAL hucards on the USA TG-16? Is there such thing?
No. There are no PAL HuCards; the ones they sold there are identical to the US versions.
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how about a converter to play PAL hucards on the USA TG-16? Is there such thing?
No. There are no PAL HuCards; the ones they sold there are identical to the US versions.
Well, actually what little we got over here was a mix of US and Japanese. I found an old photocopied list from Telegames back in the day with the games I wanted circled. Most of them were around £50! Talk about gouging...
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Well, actually what little we got over here was a mix of US and Japanese. I found an old photocopied list from Telegames back in the day with the games I wanted circled. Most of them were around £50! Talk about gouging...
But that was grey market importing, right? The legit stuff sold alongside the PAL TG was all US hueys.
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Well, actually what little we got over here was a mix of US and Japanese. I found an old photocopied list from Telegames back in the day with the games I wanted circled. Most of them were around £50! Talk about gouging...
But that was grey market importing, right? The legit stuff sold alongside the PAL TG was all US hueys.
Yeah it was grey market, but AFAIK, it was all grey market - the "official" stuff was just bulk imported and modded. The officialness was a bit of a myth. Even in France.
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Yeah it was grey market, but AFAIK, it was all grey market - the "official" stuff was just bulk imported and modded. The officialness was a bit of a myth. Even in France.
I think not. The PAL TurboGrafx (the light grey one with blue/red trim) was officially backed by NEC.
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Yeah it was grey market, but AFAIK, it was all grey market - the "official" stuff was just bulk imported and modded. The officialness was a bit of a myth. Even in France.
I think not. The PAL TurboGrafx (the light grey one with blue/red trim) was officially backed by NEC.
Yep, those were legit.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/DragonmasterDan/palturbografx.jpg)
A lot of the french PC engines were gray market.
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^ nice. I like how it's just TurboGrafx. Pretty cool. Nice logo too.
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Thanks for welcoming me.
I would, but PCE has so many games it's a bit overwhelming for a noob like me at this point. That's why I am focusing on the more simple things like US Turbo. Besides, the PCE converter is so expensive it's almost a turnoff for newer collectors and gamers like me.
I will definitely look into purchacing the CoreGrafx or the original PCE in the future for playing PCE games.
One of the main reasons to get a PCE is because a lot of the expensive games on TG16 are waaaaaaaay cheaper for PCE versions. For instance, Bonk 3 US will set you back $150 or so while the PCE version will only be about $30 and it's the exact same game with no Japanese skills needed. Don't bother with converters, if you have a basic TG16 that'll handle all of your US hu card games then eventually when you want to get into CD games just get a Japanese Duo variant and you'll be set to play pretty much anything.
oh snap! the japanese Duo plays US CD's?
You could mod your TG-16. But, skip the mod, save your money and (until you win the lottery):
(1) Skip the TG-CD. Use that money towards...
(2) DUO-R(X) / PCE + (S)CD
Your TG-16 will play NA HuCards. Japanese console will play Japanese HuCards and CD's from any region.
Eventually, you may upgrade the System Card to play Arcade CD's...but that's in the future...
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^ thanks for the great advice. That sounds like a very common sense thing to do in my case.
How about Turbo Duo? I guess that's the USA version of DUO-R? correct?
Is that something worth getting over the original Turbo-CD attachment in case I can't find the DUO-R?
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Well, actually what little we got over here was a mix of US and Japanese. I found an old photocopied list from Telegames back in the day with the games I wanted circled. Most of them were around £50! Talk about gouging...
But that was grey market importing, right? The legit stuff sold alongside the PAL TG was all US hueys.
Yeah it was grey market, but AFAIK, it was all grey market - the "official" stuff was just bulk imported and modded. The officialness was a bit of a myth. Even in France.
Wrong.
The PAL TurboGrafx was an official NEC product, fully backed and supported. A test launch, as I understand, and it didn't perform as expected so any further release plans were scrapped.
The "Sodipeng" related line and all that crap was the grey market stuff.
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lol now I am really confused.
OK, let me ask again. 2 questions.
1. Does USA TurboGrafx-16 play European hucards?
2. Does EURO TurboGrafx play USA hucards?
From what I learned here. I know that the all CD systems are region free. And I know that Japanese PCE only plays Japanese HuCards. I just would like to know about the 2 qustions I posted above. Thanks mates!
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^ thanks for the great advice. That sounds like a very common sense thing to do in my case.
How about Turbo Duo? I guess that's the USA version of DUO-R? correct?
Is that something worth getting over the original Turbo-CD attachment in case I can't find the DUO-R?
I think you'll find any Japanese Duo variant to be both easier to find and cheaper than a US Duo.
1. Does USA TurboGrafx-16 play European hucards?
2. Does EURO TurboGrafx play USA hucards?
I don't have any experience with european models, but that won't keep me from shooting my trap off. It's my understanding that the answer to both of your questions is "yes".
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I think you'll find any Japanese Duo variant to be both easier to find and cheaper than a US Duo.
I don't have any experience with european models, but that won't keep me from shooting my trap off. It's my understanding that the answer to both of your questions is "yes".
oh wow, I never would have thought thats how it goes. Wouldn't it make sense that something Import would be harder to find? oh well. Learn something new everyday. Actually something new every hour with this forum.
That's pretty cool if my US Turbo can play Euro Hueys. I have family in UK. Gonna go bother them to send me some games. woot!!
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It is also my understanding that US and Euro systems are the same as far as the hucards are concerned. So I'd also say in answer to your two questions... Yes on both.
Also, as others have said...
Keep your US TG16 for all the US (or Euro) hucards you want to play.
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/Video Game Stuff/TG16.jpg)
Then ideally, find a PC engine Duo R or RX system. That will cover 98% of all the games US or JPN, hucard or CD. -- Expect to spend $150 to $200 for a good one of these systems. Well worth it!
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/Video Game Stuff/DuoR_RX.jpg)
If you want to play the handful of "Arcade Card" games, then you'll just need an Arcade Card Duo CD system card -- Expect to spend about $30 to $40
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/Video Game Stuff/ACD.jpg)
If you want to play the 5 (7) SuperGrafx games, then you'll need to get a Supergrafx console. -- Can be found for $100-$150 or so...
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/Video Game Stuff/SGX.jpg)
If you want to play the dozen or so LDROM2 games (Laseractive Laserdisc games) then of course you'll need to spend a bundle on a Laseractive and either a US or JPN PAC. Expect to pay $200 for the base unit and another $250 for an NEC PAC.
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/Video Game Stuff/LA.jpg)
If I havent confused you, then I apologize, I'll try harder next time :twisted: but give this guide a read, it explains WTF is going on with all these different systems / cd systems etc.
http://pcenginefx.com/main/nec_compatibility_guide.html
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I think you'll find any Japanese Duo variant to be both easier to find and cheaper than a US Duo.
I don't have any experience with european models, but that won't keep me from shooting my trap off. It's my understanding that the answer to both of your questions is "yes".
oh wow, I never would have thought thats how it goes. Wouldn't it make sense that something Import would be harder to find? oh well. Learn something new everyday. Actually something new every hour with this forum.
That's pretty cool if my US Turbo can play Euro Hueys. I have family in UK. Gonna go bother them to send me some games. woot!!
They can each play the same cartridges because there is no difference between the carts themselves. They just sold the US carts in Europe and the console itself converted the video output to PAL.
I'm not sure how it would benefit you to have family in the UK find you games and send them to you, unless you're also in Europe or something.
If you're in the US you might as well just buy your games here. If you had a European-sold copy of Blazing Lazers in one hand and a US-sold BL in the other, you probably wouldn't even be able to tell the two apart.
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oh wow, I never would have thought thats how it goes. Wouldn't it make sense that something Import would be harder to find? oh well. Learn something new everyday. Actually something new every hour with this forum.
Well, you have to bear in mind that the PC Engine was much more popular in Japan than the US. It lived a much longer life out there, had somewhere around 5x the games released for it and had many more variants in Japan.
Now, I suppose it's true that you are probably more likely to run across a US Duo in a local shop state-side than an import. The internet is your friend here. :D
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Thanks a ton guys!!! That really explained a lot of things I wanted to know.
BlueBMW, that breakdown of some of those non-US systems you posted is epic! Things are a bot more clear now. What exactly is the difference between the R and RX?
Nat, the benefit is that I will get games for free whenever my family or friends in Europe will run into them at markets, garage sales etc.
Sadler, thanks for your help bro.
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BlueBMW, that breakdown of some of those non-US systems you posted is epic! Things are a bot more clear now. What exactly is the difference between the R and RX?
They're basically identical. The plastic on the RX is a little more gray, while the R is more white. The RX originally came with a 6 button controller that is like the pad that comes with the PC-FX console (dont go there yet...) The R just has a standard 2 button turbo pad. Before you get excited and start looking for the RX's 6 button pad... be aware that its not THAT great of a controller. Many will say they much prefer the original Duo Pad over the RX pad. (I am one of those who dont care much for the RX pad)
Which is one more thing to note.... The TG16 system's controllers have a different plug than all the other systems. So if and when you do get a Duo, be it a US Turbo Duo, a Japanese Duo-R or whatever.. the controllers wont be interchangeable without adapters.
Also... If you really want to chit chat with some Turbo nuts..... sign up for an account over here: http://pcengine.freeforums.org/index.php and go to the chat room. We used to have a shoutbox on the mainpage here, but due to some site issues, it had to be removed. There's almost always someone online over there talking about turbo, or other cool things :D
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Thanks BMW!!!! you rock!
I will join that site as well.
btw, I know you said don't go there yet, but.................wtf is pc-fx?
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Thanks BMW!!!! you rock!
I will join that site as well.
btw, I know you said don't go there yet, but.................wtf is pc-fx?
That site was created when this site went offline due to some technical issues (haxorz) we didnt know if it'd come back up so that forum was made. Not everyone reads over there. I mostly just use it for the chatroom. But you may find some threads of interest.
Regarding the PC-FX.... its the system that succeeded the PC Engine line. Came out in 1995 only in Japan. (i think it was 1995) Its not backwards compatible with PC engine games and the majority of its games are Japanese text heavy. Dont consider it unless you're just a crazy hardcore collector or like neat obscure items. There are a handful of games that can be played an enjoyed without knowing Japanese. Its hard to say if its worth the price of admission, most will say its not. Sadly there is only one shooter for it :( But there are a few others that are playable, and there has been more buzz lately about some possible homebrew action. There are also some games that are being or have been translated. Most notable is the dating sim / hentai game Welcome to Pia Carrot. Expect to pay $150 or so for a PC-FX system.
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2008/06/Consoles of the/90s/NEC_PC-FX--article_image.jpg)
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ahh ok, so basically this forum and that other one are the biggest NEC PCE communities online. I just registered over there btw.
yeah, you are right, I am not gonna go there with the whole pc-fx thing. But definitely something worth knowing to me. I definitely would like to have as much knowledge as possible about NEC stuff.
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ahh ok, so this forum and that other one are the biggest NEC PCE communities online?
yeah, you are right, I am not gonna go there with the whole pc-fx thing. But definitely something worth knowing to me. I definitely would like to have as much knowledge as possible about NEC stuff.
There are some other sites devoted to PC engine / TG stuff, but this one seems to be the largest / most active one.
You may also browse this site if you're curious about a particular game:
http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/
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^ great site btw!!!