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Title: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: ddd1234 on February 28, 2012, 05:55:19 PM
I havta say Robo Aleste is #1 because of the awesome music, story and gameplay.

Silpheed is close second, because of the great twitch game play.

Android assault is pretty good too, with some rocking tunes; it's at number 3.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Tatsujin on February 28, 2012, 06:10:54 PM
Keio Flying Squadron 

Bari Arm would be a close 2nd.

and, IF Lords of Thunder didn't came out on the Turbo, that would be the best for sure.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: ddd1234 on February 28, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
Edited the Poll.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: TR0N on February 28, 2012, 06:51:33 PM
Edited the Poll.
wtf i voted for robo aleste.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Samurai Ghost on February 28, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
No Sol-Feace? Not saying it's the best, but it's a solid shooter that a lot of people who bought the SEGA CD played since it game with the system at one point.
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Post by: SignOfZeta on February 28, 2012, 07:59:11 PM
Please, Robo all the way.

Lords doesn't exist, IMO. The Sega CD version is bland looking due to the Mega shit ball color pallet. Also, aren't there musical differences? That alone would also kill it.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: majors on February 29, 2012, 01:02:19 AM
I have all from the poll(even Sol) except Lords, since I have the TG release instead. I voted Robo but Keio is a close second. Genesis and SegaCD have some good shooters and worth owning(Musha, TF3, Wings of Wor, Trouble Shooter, along with the ones from the poll) but nothing that compares to the mass of good Turbo/PCE titles.

(^^^I wonder if Sega-16 or other Genesis fan site ever made such a diplomatic quote.)

PS: I do not own the moneys-games like Gley or Eliminate, the ones I mention are in my personal collection.
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Post by: Tatsujin on February 29, 2012, 01:05:28 AM
lol lee majors. well said :)
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Post by: Arkhan on February 29, 2012, 01:11:34 AM
I chose Silpheed.  That game is tits on toast.  I love every second of that game.
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Post by: _joshuaTurbo on February 29, 2012, 01:12:25 AM
No Sol-Feace? Not saying it's the best, but it's a solid shooter that a lot of people who bought the SEGA CD played since it game with the system at one point.
I would actually vote Sol-Feace for being my personal favorite, but maybe not the "BEST". It just has a Turbo feel to it, know what I mean?  speaking of that- I just realized I have two copies!! Anyone want my dupe?
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Post by: Tatsujin on February 29, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
i would say, if any of the above shooters has the turbo feeling then it is bari-arm.
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Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 29, 2012, 01:21:12 AM
Keio Flying Squadron 

Bari Arm would be a close 2nd.

and, IF Lords of Thunder didn't came out on the Turbo, that would be the best for sure.

I really like the music, aesthetics, theme and feel of Keio. So I'm going to agree on Keio.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: PunkicCyborg on February 29, 2012, 01:28:42 AM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 29, 2012, 01:32:11 AM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video

If you want an honest answer, Prize Fighter.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SNKNostalgia on February 29, 2012, 01:34:40 AM
Robo Aleste is my personal favorite. Silpheed is a close second, but can be hard and looks a little rough at times... still fun as hell though.

BTW, the first version of Lords of Thunder I played is the Sega CD version back in '96 I bought used. I was blown the hell away with it to be honest. The music in that version to me sounds better for two legitimate reasons actually.

1) Yes, it is the first version of the soundtrack I listened to and I liked it then and still like it now.

2) It has a less overproduced sound with a more soulful feel to it. It just has a more raw and rough feel, which is how real metal music should sound. It sounded like a real band playing it instead of it actually being recorded for a video game or anime. Old school Metallica vs. new Dream Theater is the way I view it. It just has a more natural sound and more balls!!! I love the Duo version of the game overall better, don't get me wrong. I just really prefer the Sega CD version's music. I have listened to a lot of Metal music like Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Metallica (up to black album) Tool, Deftones (up to White Poney), Kyuss and Pantera. I could never get into bands like Dragon Force, Dream Theater and that other clean overproduced recorded stuff. It has to make you want to break shit, or it isn't working. Not that I do that, lol.
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Post by: SamIAm on February 29, 2012, 01:39:55 AM
^^^ That reminds me of one of the better videos to come out of the Spoony Experiment. Sega CD FMV Hell. (http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/06/08/fmv-hell-make-my-video/)

Anyway, I could never get into Robo Aleste. I found Spriggan on the PCE-CD to be so superior that I almost can't play it. I might be missing something, though.

Keio is my personal favorite. There's heaps of personality, very good production, and a good deal of playability balanced with challenge toward the end.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: majors on February 29, 2012, 02:07:33 AM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video
I remember playing RDF Global Conflict and liking it. I have not played it since it's release and I fail to find vid's of it ATM. I'm kinda pissed I passed up on it at MAGFest, maybe a dealer at MGC will have a copy.

"Best FMV game for XXXXX" is kinda like saying "what is the best smelling turd"? It's all shit...it more of what is the less sucky.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SNKNostalgia on February 29, 2012, 02:27:59 AM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video
I remember playing RDF Global Conflict and liking it. I have not played it since it's release and I fail to find vid's of it ATM. I'm kinda pissed I passed up on it at MAGFest, maybe a dealer at MGC will have a copy.

"Best FMV game for XXXXX" is kinda like saying "what is the best smelling turd"? It's all shit...it more of what is the less sucky.

Fox Hunt from Capcom was somewhat enjoyable. It was entertaining and played quite differently from other FMV games. I also got a small kick out of Corpse Killer as well (Sega Saturn version is a bit better than the previous ones). Not great games by any means though.
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Post by: Arkhan on February 29, 2012, 02:29:07 AM
wtf Silpheed haters.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 29, 2012, 02:48:22 AM
wtf Silpheed haters.

I like Silpheed, just not as much as Keio or Android Assault.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: nodtveidt on February 29, 2012, 05:47:27 AM
I voted Silpheed. f*cking awesome game. f*ck the haters. LoT on Sega CD was a castrated disgrace, and the rest are "meh".
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Tatsujin on February 29, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
^^^ That reminds me of one of the better videos to come out of the Spoony Experiment. Sega CD FMV Hell. (http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/06/08/fmv-hell-make-my-video/)

Anyway, I could never get into Robo Aleste. I found Spriggan on the PCE-CD to be so superior that I almost can't play it. I might be missing something, though.

Keio is my personal favorite. There's heaps of personality, very good production, and a good deal of playability balanced with challenge toward the end.


Teh Truth!!
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 29, 2012, 11:40:52 AM
Poor Bari-Arm is definitely underrated.  Plus it was cursed with such a boring name change in the US to "Android Assault".  People were still reeling from Butt Hole errr I mean Black Hole Assault.  I don't know if Bari-Arm is the best shooter, though.  I recall it being kind of easy but I may be remembering a different game.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SuperDeadite on February 29, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
I vote for Hyperion
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: TheClash603 on February 29, 2012, 12:41:54 PM
I vote for Hyperion

If that counts, me too!
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on February 29, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
I vote for the shooter you can play in the Adventures of Willy Beamish.
According to Wikipedia it's called Super Space K'Noidtrix.

Seriously though, that blew me away when I first played it... I mean, I was playing a game INSIDE A GAME.

Or maybe it was just because it was more fun than playing Willy Beamish.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 29, 2012, 09:31:22 PM
I vote for the shooter you can play in the Adventures of Willy Beamish.
According to Wikipedia it's called Super Space K'Noidtrix.

Seriously though, that blew me away when I first played it... I mean, I was playing a game INSIDE A GAME.

Or maybe it was just because it was more fun than playing Willy Beamish.

That should be categorized as the best Nintari shooter.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 01, 2012, 02:09:39 AM
Hyperion doesn't count but even if it did it is bested by all other games in this poll.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: futureman2000 on March 01, 2012, 02:16:55 AM

Seriously though, that blew me away when I first played it... I mean, I was playing a game INSIDE A GAME.


I remember having a similar shock/awe when playing Blades of Steel
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Post by: Tatsujin on March 01, 2012, 02:25:31 AM
breids of steer
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Post by: Terminarcade on March 01, 2012, 04:19:53 AM
Voted for Keio, I have a soft spot for dragon riding anime girls, with bunny ears.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SuperDeadite on March 01, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
Hyperion counts, it's a SegaCD game just recorded on a LD.
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Post by: geise on March 01, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
I have to vote for Bari Arm.  It's the best playing shooter and has an amazing sound track.  The others arealso great and I love Silpheed, but overall it's Bari Arm for me.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SamIAm on March 01, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Hyperion counts, it's a SegaCD game just recorded on a LD.

OK, but is it a shooter? If we include that, don't we have to include all the other borderliners? Soul Star? Afterburner III? Microcosm? Sewer Shark? It seems like the focus is just traditional 2D shooters.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SuperDeadite on March 02, 2012, 12:14:08 AM
?? Hyperion give you a behind the ship viewpoint, but it's a sprite that you move wherever you want to.  It's not like Sewer Shark at all...
It's basically Sylpheed with textures...
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Post by: SamIAm on March 02, 2012, 12:35:51 AM
It's a pretty big leap to go from 2D scrolling shooters to pseudo-3D chase-view shooters. The point about Sewer Shark is that like Hyperion, it's outside the normal scope of the genre. Does anybody ever bring up Space Harrier when they talk about shmups? I don't think they would even let you post a high-score thread for it at shmups.com.

Silpheed is admittedly also kind of a borderliner, but the gameplay itself takes place almost entirely on a 2D plane. I'd say it qualifies as a gimmicky vertical shmup.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: Arkhan on March 02, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
SILPHEEED MOTHERf*ckERS.
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Post by: SuperDeadite on March 02, 2012, 12:53:14 AM
It's a pretty big leap to go from 2D scrolling shooters to pseudo-3D chase-view shooters. The point about Sewer Shark is that like Hyperion, it's outside the normal scope of the genre. Does anybody ever bring up Space Harrier when they talk about shmups? I don't think they would even let you post a high-score thread for it at shmups.com.

Silpheed is admittedly also kind of a borderliner, but the gameplay itself takes place almost entirely on a 2D plane. I'd say it qualifies as a gimmicky vertical shmup.

"shmups.com"  LOL
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Post by: Arkhan on March 02, 2012, 01:01:55 AM
shmups.com should be renamed shmucks.com
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 02, 2012, 02:51:20 AM
I think Silpheed is more visually appealing than Hyperion.  At least I can play Silpheed without shitty bleeding colors.  The tape they used to master the LaserDisc must have been VHS.  There was no quality control in regards to LaserActive video.  Vajra is one of the worst.  Like VHS recorded in EP mode dubbed down a few generations.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SamIAm on March 02, 2012, 04:08:42 AM
You know, I actually love a good chase-view shooter. My fondness of Panorama Cotton speaks for itself, (http://www.gamefaqs.com/genesis/565488-panorama-cotton/faqs) and I've also spent loads of time with Space Harrier and good time with Galaxy Force II. Not to mention stuff like Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

How is Hyperion? The visuals look nice, but how about the gameplay? Does the ship maneuver and fire well? Are the enemies very stimulating? Does it have exciting pacing?
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Post by: xelement5x on March 02, 2012, 06:39:07 AM
Voted for Keio, I have a soft spot for dragon riding anime girls, with bunny ears.

Same here  :D
But closely followed by Silpheed because I've got Game Arts love.


On the topic of FMV games though, I think that Ground Zero Texas is probably one of the best FMV games for the Sega CD.  It's actually fun to play and watch, the story doesn't suck balls, and the video encoding isn't too bad.  I'm also assuming we're only talking about western stuff though because there was no mention of Time Gal or Road Prosecutor/Blaster.
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Post by: SignOfZeta on March 02, 2012, 09:24:02 AM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video

If you want an honest answer, Prize Fighter.

Yeah, Prize Fighter. Also, that kung fu game that is much like Prize Fighter is pretty solid.

Aesthetically, Time Gal and Road Buster.
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 02, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
I think Silpheed is more visually appealing than Hyperion.  At least I can play Silpheed without shitty bleeding colors.  The tape they used to master the LaserDisc must have been VHS.  There was no quality control in regards to LaserActive video.  Vajra is one of the worst.  Like VHS recorded in EP mode dubbed down a few generations.

I have some stuff to say about this, but as I was writing it up it got so big I decided to put it in The Official Pioneer LaserActive Player Thread
Title: Re: Best Sega CD shooter?
Post by: esteban on March 03, 2012, 05:54:14 PM
What I really wan to know is what the best FMV game for sega cd was. For me it's a tie between Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch or Kriss Kross Make My Video


(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/esteban_desktop_2b.jpg) (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/esteban_desktop_2.jpg)




No Sol-Feace? Not saying it's the best, but it's a solid shooter that a lot of people who bought the SEGA CD played since it game with the system at one point.

I would actually vote Sol-Feace for being my personal favorite, but maybe not the "BEST". It just has a Turbo feel to it, know what I mean?  speaking of that- I just realized I have two copies!! Anyone want my dupe?


If nobody is going to take you up on your offer, than, yes, I would gladly take your dupe of Sol-Feace (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png).

I owned Sol-Deace (cart) at one point, but I must have given it away. And I played (but never owned) Sol-Feace back in the day, when Sega-CD was exciting and new. It's actually depressing to think about how long ago that was (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png).
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Post by: Arkhan on March 06, 2012, 12:37:01 AM
Cadillac and Dinosaurs, bitches
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Post by: Tatsujin on March 06, 2012, 12:58:27 AM
\O/

genre fail
plattform fail
medium fail
maker fail
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Post by: Arkhan on March 06, 2012, 07:34:14 AM
plattform fail

Spelling fail.