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Title: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: incrediblehark on March 15, 2012, 04:47:51 AM
Here's the article I have, per request of SuperGrafx16. Article courtesy of VideoGames & Computer Entertainment, October 1992:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/satalog/fxscan.png)
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 15, 2012, 06:59:01 AM
Thank you very much  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Arkhan on March 15, 2012, 07:18:55 AM
holy shit Duke Togo!
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 15, 2012, 09:02:14 AM
I truly, truly, really very much wish that IronMan / Tetsujin / HuC62 had been released (along with Hi-Ten Bomberman) instead of the PC-FX.

The two hardwares are different, IronMan would've been more powerful.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Nando on March 15, 2012, 09:27:47 AM
did any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Necromancer on March 15, 2012, 09:41:23 AM
With the exception of the CPU, that sounds like a PC-FX.  The 6261, 6271, 6272, and 6230 are all in the PC-FX, the v810 is more powerful, and neither has dedicated 3D hardware, so I'm not sure why you'd think the prototype would be more capable.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 15, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
With the exception of the CPU, that sounds like a PC-FX.  The 6261, 6271, 6272, and 6230 are all in the PC-FX, the v810 is more powerful, and neither has dedicated 3D hardware, so I'm not sure why you'd think the prototype would be more capable.

I'll accept that I'm mistaken, then.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 15, 2012, 10:46:04 AM
did any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?


Maybe the plastic to make the case?
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 15, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
did any of that tech ever go to the Dreamcast?

Nope, Dreamcast/Katana was designed by SEGA of Japan, Hitachi, ImgTec, Microsoft.
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Only the graphics chip was manufactured by NEC, who also fabbed the GameCube and Wii GPUs.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Tatsujin on March 15, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 15, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.

LOL, I don't get it.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Black Tiger on March 16, 2012, 06:22:26 AM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.

LOL, I don't get it.

Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 16, 2012, 11:15:35 AM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.

LOL, I don't get it.

Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.


Bwahahahaha ^__^
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: incrediblehark on March 16, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
I always wondered if that blue thing on the end of the board was a hucard connector, although I remember hearing that there's something on the pcfx that looks like it could take a hucard (haven't looked myself) but doesn't play the hucards, of course.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SamIAm on March 16, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
I wonder how much a PCE CPU cost in 1994? That seems to be the only major ingredient missing in order to achieve backwards compatibility. 3D capabilities would have been better, but b/c still would have been a major enticement to buy the system. Can you imagine how in-demand the PC-FX would be now if it played PCE-CD games with better loading times and an overall more reliable drive? And S-video?
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Tatsujin on March 16, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.


LOL, I don't get it.


Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.



Bwahahahaha ^__^


You raff?

read here: http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8423.0 :)
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 16, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6514/pc98steamengine.png)

 :!:



I think I get it now, this^pretty much says it all?




Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Nando on March 19, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
well shit...wow.

awesome history bit.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 24, 2012, 11:50:45 AM
I found more:

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7792/hudson1t.jpg)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg267/scaled.php?server=267&filename=hudson2.jpg&res=medium)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg442/scaled.php?server=442&filename=hudson3.jpg&res=medium)
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 24, 2012, 01:38:17 PM
Its funny that the FX was still full of hadoson train obey.

LOL, I don't get it.

Hudson renamed the chips they used after their trains. Seriously.

Just to avoid confusion here, they named their entire company after the trains. There is no official relation between Hudson the software company and Hudson the train company. The dudes who formed Hudson the software company were just massive fanboys. Neither is there a relation between either company and the Galaxy Express 999 (C6248, movie version and C6250, TV version).
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: incrediblehark on March 24, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
nice, a more up close picture!
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 24, 2012, 04:15:19 PM
No problemo :D

Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: TheClash603 on March 25, 2012, 07:57:08 AM
What benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Arkhan on March 25, 2012, 08:22:56 AM
What benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...

cross development, use the turbob as a scsidrive, something like that maybe.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: TheClash603 on March 25, 2012, 08:29:27 AM
What benefit would there have been hooking a Turbo Duo to a Mac?  I don't get it...

cross development, use the turbob as a scsidrive, something like that maybe.

I put a little more thought into it, maybe networked games?  That would've been pretty badass actually, though I assume that the amount of us with Turbo Duos and Macs and 56k modems to still play these networked games in 2012 would be pretty slim.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: nat on March 25, 2012, 11:23:17 AM
Networked games, maybe, but probably not. You have to have the Duo on the desk next to the Mac to hook it up via the SCSI port. I'm not sure what you'd need a 56k modem for in this scenario. So say you had someone playing on the Mac, and you on the Duo one of these networked games. You'd already be sitting next to each other anyway, why not just whip out a second controller and both play the game on the Duo? No, I don't think this was the answer.

I think the idea was more along the lines of using the TurboDuo as a CD-ROM drive for the Mac. You have to remember that back in those days, CD-ROMs were not yet being shipped as standard equipment in new computers.

On the other hand, every Mac built from 1987 onward (until the late 90s) came with a SCSI port built-in.

TTi probably thought they could conceivably boost Duo unit sales if the Duo could also serve as an external CD-ROM drive for your home computer, as well.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: incrediblehark on March 25, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
From what I recall reading that was the plan, to double as an external cd rom drive for pc/mac. I think I have an ad somewhere mentioning this.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 25, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
Yeah, the Duo was one of the cheapest CDROM drives out there, possibly THE cheapest. This adaptor would turn the system into a genaric CDROM drive. I'm pretty sure someone on this forum had a prototype.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: roflmao on March 25, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
I remember reading about that adapter bitd as well.  I was really looking forward to getting one!  I can't imagine using a 1x drive nowadays. :O
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: nat on March 25, 2012, 07:06:35 PM
Yeah, the Duo was one of the cheapest CDROM drives out there, possibly THE cheapest. This adaptor would turn the system into a genaric CDROM drive. I'm pretty sure someone on this forum had a prototype.

Yeah, there have been a few floating around over the past decade or so. They definitely exist, they just never made it to "mass" production.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 29, 2012, 08:12:28 AM
After all this time, it's hard to believe that the Tetsujin/IronMan of 1992 was NOT more powerful than the PC-FX of 1994.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: Tatsujin on March 29, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
They just fiddled around with it for a way too long time.
Title: Re: HuC62 - Hudson's early 32 Bit hardware from 1992
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on March 31, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
They just fiddled around with it for a way too long time.


I see.