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Title: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SuperPlay on May 29, 2012, 09:38:45 AM
Source:  retrocollect
http://www.retrocollect.com/News/krikzzs-turbo-everdrive-pc-engine-turbografx-16-flash-card-nearing-release.html

"After releasing the impressive Mega Everdrive for the Sega Mega Drive, flash cartridge guru Krikzz has since moved his focus onto a SD card ROM loading solution for the Turbografx and PC Engine consoles- The Turbo Everdrive. After many months of hardwork, the card has entered the final phase of testing and is due for release shortly.

As mentioned when we first heard about the Turbo Everdrive, there has been little in the way of flash cartridges for the Turbografx and PC Engine systems.  The only existing solution currently available is from Neo Flash, known as the NEO Power PC-E- a sadly outdated and neglected piece of hardware.

Whilst little information regarding the Turbo Everdrive has been released online, we are aware that the SD card ROM loading flash cartridge will play games from every region, have a similar price tag to that of the Everdrive-MD (approx $78), and be made available within the next two months. Best of all, we'll finally able to play the elusive and incredibly rare Magical Chase without breaking the bank."


Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on May 29, 2012, 01:35:38 PM
If this one is problem-free, I will be buying one asap for sure. :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: FiftyQuid on May 29, 2012, 01:42:42 PM
I don't quite understand this.  Does it work like an emulator?  How will I be able to play Magical Chase?  Sorry, new to this... From the video it looks like every game is on the flash card.  Is this correct?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Flare65 on May 29, 2012, 05:27:44 PM
Are all the games going to be pre loaded on it?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ccovell on May 29, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
Just by looking around the pics, does Krikzz know that the PCE, GT, Duo, etc have power switch/stoppers where the SD card is (for now), BUT the SGX also has a stopper on the opposite side (where the USB plug is)?  Basically, the handle edge of the HuCard/Everdrive can't have connectors on it unless users are willing to snap off the power switch stoppers of their PCEs/SGXs...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: roflmao on May 29, 2012, 05:45:10 PM
That's the issue I ran into with the Protocade AbCard.  The top layer is so close to the back of the card that my Express switch can't clear it.  I still haven't gotten around to filing the card down to fit.  :roll: But it's a prototype, so I'm sure it'll be addressed in the final version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Deletion on May 29, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
Can't wait. I'll be in line for that shit.

I have several of Krikkz's flash carts and they all operate the same way. You download ROMs and copy them onto an SD card. Insert the SD card into the flash cart, then insert the flash cart into your console. Upon startup, you'll see a menu listing the ROMs. The menus on the earlier flash carts were very basic and resembled DOS; the newer menus have GUIs. Select a ROM to load it into memory and then you can play the game as if you had the authentic cartridge/HuCard. It's very easy and works great.

No, the SD card does not come pre-loaded with ROMs. Finding and downloading ROMs will be up to you. With that being said, there could be a bonus game on the flash cart if you turn it on without the SD card inserted. Krikkz did that with at least the original EverDrive (Genesis flash cart).
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on May 29, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
Looks great!

I hope it really is priced at the $78 mark - I got a bit of a shock at the pricing of his latest MD cart.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: tiptopjames on May 29, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Just by looking around the pics, does Krikzz know that the PCE, GT, Duo, etc have power switch/stoppers where the SD card is (for now), BUT the SGX also has a stopper on the opposite side (where the USB plug is)?  Basically, the handle edge of the HuCard/Everdrive can't have connectors on it unless users are willing to snap off the power switch stoppers of their PCEs/SGXs...

did some reading, the big sd slot, which you are referring to, is out. will be all micro sd which is on the opposite side.

Looks great!

I hope it really is priced at the $78 mark - I got a bit of a shock at the pricing of his latest MD cart.

the mega everdrive is awesome though! it has save states, an in game menu, and a USB slot to be used for awesome things in the future! plus you can still buy the cheaper sega everdrive (for $78), and it's still awesome too. krikzz didn't even pay me to write that, i paid him!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 29, 2012, 07:37:34 PM
I'm so geeked for this. The drag and drop aspect is the most exciting part. No more shitty propritary Windows software that doesn't work!

I want to play Bubblegum Crash in English, mainly.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: storino03 on May 29, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
Looks nice. Maybe the label side will have a small handle that sticks out so you can pull it out easier than grabbing the edge where the sd card slot is.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Samurai Ghost on May 29, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
I wonder if it will be SGX compatible?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TR0N on May 29, 2012, 08:18:13 PM
I don't quite understand this.  Does it work like an emulator?  How will I be able to play Magical Chase?  Sorry, new to this... From the video it looks like every game is on the flash card.  Is this correct?
The everdrive flash cartridge is not emulation.Pretty much,you save the game rom to the sd card and the device flashes it's program.I have one for the (sega genesis) and it works great so i can't wait for the TG16 version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: soop on May 29, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
Damn... This is really bad timing for gameofyou's flash card.  Hopefully there's a market for both.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on May 29, 2012, 10:34:43 PM
Damn... This is really bad timing for gameofyou's flash card.  Hopefully there's a market for both.
I am sure there will be.  His will be cheaper, and I know there will be peeps that purchase both.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: grahf on May 30, 2012, 02:24:01 AM
I think gameofyou's flashcard is useful for devs, and those wanting to play translations and such. People who just want to play a ton of roms, will probably go with Krikzss.
Personally I will buy gameofyou's, as I don't really care about roms. Most of the hucards I want I already own.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on May 30, 2012, 03:47:34 AM
I want both, but because of the price I'm starting with gameofyou's.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on May 30, 2012, 07:49:08 AM
Another awesome piece hardware!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: gameofyou on May 30, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
Damn... This is really bad timing for gameofyou's flash card.  Hopefully there's a market for both.

Lol.  That is unfortunate timing.  Oh, well.  Having more options is always a good thing.
 
I think there will be a market for each card, like the other guys posted.  One thing about my flash HuCard that I really haven't advertised is it's low power consumption.  So this would make it a better option for the handheld systems.  I'll have to take some official measurements of the power, & add it to the web page.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: roflmao on May 30, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
I'll be getting one of yours, gameofyou.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on May 31, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Just by looking around the pics, does Krikzz know that the PCE, GT, Duo, etc have power switch/stoppers where the SD card is (for now), BUT the SGX also has a stopper on the opposite side (where the USB plug is)?  Basically, the handle edge of the HuCard/Everdrive can't have connectors on it unless users are willing to snap off the power switch stoppers of their PCEs/SGXs...


Yup, and the final board design is revised because of this. He's aware (from 5 days ago):

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?31764-PCE-TG16-HuCard-Everdrive&s=40609e5beaf100f34c30f64fa458cbbd&p=584579&viewfull=1#post584579
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here is photo how proto board looks. final board will be almost same, but without small tactile button, jtag connector and without white wire. also i will change sd slot layout in final revision, cuz prototype pcb fit not very good (SD card crossed with power switch)


And he estimates it being ready in 1-2 months. A friend just told me about this today and I'm very interested! Having the whole ROM collection available in a single card might give me more of a reason to play my Express a little more often than in 5 year intervals. ;)

Hm, there is an issue with SFII:CE and he's asking for technical help, though:
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i recently made street fighter2 mapper, but one of game levels work with terrible glitches (sea port level in USA), but all other levels works fine. i wonder if there need to use some known "tricks" to make it work, or it is just some my mistake somewhere. may be there someone who knows something about pce and sf2 mapper (:


Nevermind, he solved it about 16 hours ago! Heh-heh. Good good! Just had to read further down and it appears he knows about this forum cause he got info about the mapper from here (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9384.0) (thanks to our very own Bonknuts/tomaitheous).

General compatibility (according to the MottZilla guy):
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99% of game HuCards are just a ROM up to 1 Megabyte in size. SF2'CE is an exception as it is 2.5 Megabytes and to allow that a memory mapper was designed for it. I have heard Populous might have some extra (maybe battery backed) RAM but that is about it. So again, 99% of HuCard games should work perfectly on the EverDrive. Populous is the only game that will not work.


URL: http://krikzz.com/
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: cabbage on May 31, 2012, 03:31:15 PM
 =P~
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: A_Locomotive on May 31, 2012, 05:19:56 PM
I wonder if the Turbo Everdrive will have the same issues that the Neo Flash does with weak voltage. I hope not. :( I don't like the idea of spending all that money to find it doesn't work on my region modded Duo-R forcing me to get another console just for it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 04, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
I wonder if the Turbo Everdrive will have the same issues that the Neo Flash does with weak voltage. I hope not. :( I don't like the idea of spending all that money to find it doesn't work on my region modded Duo-R forcing me to get another console just for it.

what issues does it have?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: A_Locomotive on June 04, 2012, 03:56:38 PM
I wonder if the Turbo Everdrive will have the same issues that the Neo Flash does with weak voltage. I hope not. :( I don't like the idea of spending all that money to find it doesn't work on my region modded Duo-R forcing me to get another console just for it.


what issues does it have?



Some consoles have a weak voltage to the hucard slot and are unable to run flash cards.

More detailed description hear, this problem is the only reason I never bought a neo flash.
http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php?topic=7289.0
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 04, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
Oh, interesting... Since I installed brand new capacitors in my Express, it shouldn't have a weak voltage for the line that powers the HuCard slot. Maybe that's why flash cards work on some consoles and not others (old/weakened capacitors) ?? I would bet that has something to do with it...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 04, 2012, 07:05:14 PM
Krikzz made a video to demo it! He loads/tests "Street Fighter II:CE," Batman, R-Type, and Toilet Kids, etc.


Towards the end he'll point the camera down to his PC Engine, turn it off, take the SD card out, turn back on, etc. (I guess to show it retained the memory of the last game? Not sure.). Anyway, looks awesome!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on June 05, 2012, 04:53:32 AM
I am in love....
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 05, 2012, 05:11:02 AM
Where do I sign up?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 05, 2012, 05:15:23 AM
ok quick question - what flash carts support / work with Supergrafx roms? Do they all work?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on June 05, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
Supergrafx ROMS aren't any different from PCE ROMS, really.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on June 05, 2012, 09:07:24 AM
Some flash carts might not physically fit in a SuperGrafx or other consoles, depending on the position of the power on switch lock. I belive that the tototek one is notched on both sides, but can't remember for sure.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: thesteve on June 05, 2012, 10:07:41 AM
i think i may have an answer to the neoflash issue.
i dought it was ever weak voltage.
as it must load the rom to the executable area of the card boot time becomes an issue.
if the system reset is completed before the rom is ready it will not work properly.
i ran into this on the gameofyou flash and solved it
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: gameofyou on June 05, 2012, 02:02:44 PM
i think i may have an answer to the neoflash issue.
i dought it was ever weak voltage.
as it must load the rom to the executable area of the card boot time becomes an issue.
if the system reset is completed before the rom is ready it will not work properly.
i ran into this on the gameofyou flash and solved it

I can't speak to the operation of the Neoflash card, but on my card, nothing needs to be loaded at boot time.  The PC downloads and writes the game to flash.  After that, to the PC-Engine, the card is read just like a normal ROM.  I would like to get to the bottom of the reset issue, but I would probably need to buy a Turbografx to figure it out.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: thesteve on June 05, 2012, 04:51:23 PM
the reason it was an issue on yours is the flash chip has to arrange the data in 8 or 16 bit at initialization.
the chip stores it as 2 8bit roms,
it then uses an internal mapper to stack the roms
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 05, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
I am in love....

Ah, but you gotta decide Bernie!! ;) You were committing to buying the low cost one in the other thread which is only 1 MB, meaning you'll have to flash another game in every time you wanna switch (and it'll never work with SFII, but eh, who cares? With 2 button control, it's shitty to play & it's available in every other platform, MAME, etc. so I technically wouldn't care if this one couldn't handle it.). This one, IF it works according to its claims, even with a small 1GB micro SD Card, you'll have EVERY game available at the touch of your fingertips! The full NEC HuCard ROM collection is only 301 MB, even smaller if you exclude the duplicate dumps ([a1], [a2], [a3], etc.).
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 06, 2012, 02:02:17 AM
I am in love....

Ah, but you gotta decide Bernie!! ;) You were committing to buying the low cost one in the other thread which is only 1 MB, meaning you'll have to flash another game in every time you wanna switch (and it'll never work with SFII, but eh, who cares? With 2 button control, it's shitty to play & it's available in every other platform, MAME, etc. so I technically wouldn't care if this one couldn't handle it.). This one, IF it works according to its claims, even with a small 1GB micro SD Card, you'll have EVERY game available at the touch of your fingertips! The full NEC HuCard ROM collection is only 301 MB, even smaller if you exclude the duplicate dumps ([a1], [a2], [a3], etc.).

Or one can eventually buy both, it's always nice to have backups. Shit happens.

My daily user would be this little beast here, but having a extra flash-able card would be piece of mind for me. I also have two young kiddos.. Wandering curious hands.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on June 06, 2012, 11:44:22 AM
Yes....  I will buy both..  :) 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: gameofyou on June 06, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
the reason it was an issue on yours is the flash chip has to arrange the data in 8 or 16 bit at initialization.
the chip stores it as 2 8bit roms,
it then uses an internal mapper to stack the roms

I'm curious where you see this in the datasheet.  Because all I see is "Trh - RESET# High Time Before Read - MIN 0nS".
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: incrediblehark on June 06, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
I'll probably get the Turbo Everdrive and get rid of my neoflash since I could never get it to work on my modded pc engine, but my other systems were fine. Too bad the everdrive won't have the plastic coating to make it look all pretty like the neoflash, or will it?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: thesteve on June 06, 2012, 03:04:53 PM
the reason it was an issue on yours is the flash chip has to arrange the data in 8 or 16 bit at initialization.
the chip stores it as 2 8bit roms,
it then uses an internal mapper to stack the roms

I'm curious where you see this in the datasheet.  Because all I see is "Trh - RESET# High Time Before Read - MIN 0nS".

i didnt see it in the data sheet.
i did see the chip was configurable 8 or 16 bit.
i saw no need to reset the chip, before boot, and suspected the TG16 was beginning boot shortly after reset low.
you can enable the reset button as long as you dont reset the flash chip
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TheOldMan on June 06, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
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...suspected the TG16 was beginning boot shortly after reset low.

Not an electronics guy, but that makes sense to me. Reset low would indicate a reset state, during which the cpu
would have to fetch the reset vector. So, it would be reading while reset is low, and once the read is complete, it would raise the reset line, indicating reset was done, and start executing the reset code.

Where's Tomaitheous? Maybe he can explain this....

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 07, 2012, 02:44:14 AM
Too bad the everdrive won't have the plastic coating to make it look all pretty like the neoflash, or will it?

It wont. Too costly to produce.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Samurai Ghost on June 07, 2012, 08:48:52 AM
If I can use it on my SuperGrafx I might pick one up just to play 1941 but maybe I can find the a loose before it comes out...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 07, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
Too bad the everdrive won't have the plastic coating to make it look all pretty like the neoflash, or will it?

It wont. Too costly to produce.

will there be a case for it? what would be the best way to store it? total noob on this end btw.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: gameofyou on June 07, 2012, 03:08:40 PM
will there be a case for it? what would be the best way to store it? total noob on this end btw.

Mine will come in a small re-sealable antistatic bag.  You can just keep it in the bag when not in use.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on June 07, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
Too bad the everdrive won't have the plastic coating to make it look all pretty like the neoflash, or will it?


It wont. Too costly to produce.


If it's like the other Everdrives, stores will sell versions with cases and other bundled items. Of course, it'll be more expensive. I bought a Everdrive MD for 80$ or whatever it was, but there were versions available with a case and other things for 120$ or 140$.

Like here: http://stoneagegamer.com/everdrive-md.aspx
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: grahf on June 08, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
If you just want a storage case, it should fit in an old laptop PCMCIA card case. It should be thin enough..
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 08, 2012, 02:36:43 AM
I PM'ed the creator and asked him about how much is it gonna cost WITH shipping to the USA and he said $85 bucks!!!!! Done deal, I'm buying it!! If it works as expected, that's a very respectable pricepoint! Just hope there are no bugs/issues in the first batch. I'll probably wait though until feedback starts coming in after he starts making a first couple of sales to people, see what they say.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 08, 2012, 02:57:00 AM
I PM'ed the creator and asked him about how much is it gonna cost WITH shipping to the USA and he said $85 bucks!!!!! Done deal, I'm buying it!! If it works as expected, that's a very respectable pricepoint! Just hope there are no bugs/issues in the first batch. I'll probably wait though until feedback starts coming in after he starts making a first couple of sales to people, see what they say.

Awesome!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on June 08, 2012, 04:40:56 AM
I PM'ed the creator and asked him about how much is it gonna cost WITH shipping to the USA and he said $85 bucks!!!!! Done deal, I'm buying it!! If it works as expected, that's a very respectable pricepoint! Just hope there are no bugs/issues in the first batch. I'll probably wait though until feedback starts coming in after he starts making a first couple of sales to people, see what they say.

I'll also wait for the first batches to ship, just in case there are any issues. But I'm very happy with my Everdrive MD so I'm pretty confident he'll do a good job of it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 08, 2012, 06:03:49 AM
Ah OK, so you can vouch for his other flash carts. I was gonna ask you how the MD version works.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on June 08, 2012, 10:41:26 PM
Is there any word on whether this fits in a Supergrafx yet?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 08, 2012, 10:59:05 PM
I asked him about price from his youtube account, he responded, so doesn't hurt to ask, but can you take a screenshot of what would be the problem? I read something earlier from ccovell about switches on both sides and what not. Take a clear picture of a HuCard with the power switch turned on and I'll be happy to PM it to him and ask if it was brought to his attention, etc. It might already be too late with him only having addressed the SD card placement issue on the left side.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on June 09, 2012, 04:37:51 AM
These two images sum up the situation well. The first photo is a SGX compared to a DUO-RX. In addition, notice how the green bit goes over the card in the 2nd photo.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/sirsinnes/101_0700.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/sirsinnes/101_0701.jpg)

If you could let him know about this, that would be great. :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Arkhan on June 09, 2012, 06:43:33 AM
EVERYDRIVE.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 09, 2012, 08:07:40 AM
is he taking pre-orders on this?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 09, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Ah, I got it, switches can be on the left and the right. OK, I'll PM him right now, otherwise I'll forget later.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: gameofyou on June 09, 2012, 03:28:35 PM
These two images sum up the situation well. The first photo is a SGX compared to a DUO-RX. In addition, notice how the green bit goes over the card in the 2nd photo.

 
Just fyi, the lowcost flash HuCard will definately fit, if there are issues with Everdrive.  I have made it so that there is only a small connector in the center.
 
http://www.gamingenterprisesinc.com/Flash_HuCard/
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 09, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
You guys know you can post in the forum Krikkzz manages about the Everdrives, right?  Here's the PCE Everdrive thread (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?31764-PCE-TG16-HuCard-Everdrive) (now 17 pages long)  I imagine he's there far more often than Youtube and he does respond to posts.  You'll also get very up to date information by checking here. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 09, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
Is retrogate a good website to purchase these? I am thinking of getting the MD version at the same time as the PCE version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on June 10, 2012, 03:25:37 AM
This is apparently the Year of the PC Engine. MSR, Atlantean, AbCard, Pyramid Plunder, TailChao's devcard, the basic flash HuCard, and the EverDrive. Good year to own a system, if not necessarily so great on the finances.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 10, 2012, 04:19:58 AM
Good thing too since it is not so great for next Gen consoles for a while. I don't think I will get the next generation of consoles when they eventually arrive so plenty of time for Turbo.
 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on June 10, 2012, 07:15:49 AM
Is retrogate a good website to purchase these? I am thinking of getting the MD version at the same time as the PCE version.

It's where I bought my Everdrive MD. I thought it was pretty decent. I thought retrogate was krikzz's own store, no?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 10, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
SamIAm, you're good! His response:
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Thanks a lot for info. I already moved SD slot to the middle of the board, USB still on old place, but usb port need only for people who want develop something, 99% of cart will be sold without usb port, since USB completely useless for gamers. So i think that USB is not a problem for most of sgx owners
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: incrediblehark on June 10, 2012, 03:03:26 PM
good to hear!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Samurai Ghost on June 10, 2012, 04:49:17 PM
Awesome!! So I'll probably end up buying this so I can play 1941 and a couple titles I haven't managed to find for a decent price yet. Can't wait to try it out!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 11, 2012, 03:31:11 AM
Ah, that raises a question I was curious about, are the 5 SuperGrafx HuCards in existence pretty much designed the same as a PCE/TG-16 HuCard, same number of connectors, memory design and everything? That is, the HuCard, as a memory storage format, did it stay exactly the same with the SuperGrafx and only the internal hardware was improved for the system ? I know it's backwards compatible and plays all existing HuCards as well, so I'm guessing that answers the question. In which case, I would assume the 5 SuperGrafx games using this HuFlashCard will work just fine with actual hardware. Myself, I don't really care because I don't own one and never will (I respect collectors and I think its design is real badass, but I'd never buy such a failed 5-game system - that was not a good sign of things to come for NEC).
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on June 11, 2012, 07:23:17 AM
SuperGrafx roms work fine on other flashcards.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on June 12, 2012, 04:12:50 AM
Thanks a million, NightWolve. I'm glad my pics could help. :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TR0N on June 13, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Krikzz made a video to demo it! He loads/tests "Street Fighter II:CE," Batman, R-Type, and Toilet Kids, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb7rVJlQU_w

Towards the end he'll point the camera down to his PC Engine, turn it off, take the SD card out, turn back on, etc. (I guess to show it retained the memory of the last game? Not sure.). Anyway, looks awesome!

I am so sold on it,now if i want to play a hucard titles with a fan translation i can.Not to mention expensive u.s titles such as magicial chase  :wink:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: vestcoat on June 14, 2012, 01:35:05 PM
Myself, I don't really care because I don't own one and never will (I respect collectors and I think its design is real badass, but I'd never buy such a failed 5-game system - that was not a good sign of things to come for NEC).
I agree the SGX sucks if you think of it as a five-game system. I prefer to think of it as a "PC Engine Plus." If you don't already own a PC Engine, buying a hundred-dollar console that can also play Battle Ace and Ghouls n' Ghosts isn't a bad way to go. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on June 14, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
If this gets popular I think there is a chance it could bring the prices down on regular genuine HuCards that are sold on Ebay. Which is a good thing but I can see how some of you might think its a bad thing. Most "gamers" will go for the flash card so that will cut down on the demand for genuine HuCards. We'll see.... :-k
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on June 15, 2012, 04:23:06 AM
If this gets popular I think there is a chance it could bring the prices down on regular genuine HuCards that are sold on Ebay. Which is a good thing but I can see how some of you might think its a bad thing. Most "gamers" will go for the flash card so that will cut down on the demand for genuine HuCards. We'll see.... :-k

There's been flashcarts available for the Turbob for years, so I don't see this one having much effect on legit game pricing.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on June 15, 2012, 04:29:54 AM
Exactly. I'll use a flash card for stuff I can't afford, but when I can afford what I want I'm gonna want to own it legitimately, in real, physical form.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on June 15, 2012, 06:19:51 AM
Exactly. I'll use a flash card for stuff I can't afford, but when I can afford what I want I'm gonna want to own it legitimately, in real, physical form.

Pretty much the same for me, nothing beats a case with instruction manual and having the physical huey in yer hands. But man the flash card is sure cost effective!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: HercTNT on June 15, 2012, 05:22:34 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but i have not had much luck finding flash cards of any kind on ebay. Thus they would have zero effect on HuCard prices. I doubt the general public is very well informed on flash cards and their benefits anyways. I two would prefer original games, but i agree that flash cards are irreplaceable. Some games are just to expensive, or hard to get and the only way you would get to play them is on a flash card.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on June 15, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
^Exactly!!!

I think the most i spent on a TG game is about $55, and only a few times. I never did the emulator thing so I cant wait to get my hands on this card. I will still buy original games when I can, and when the price is right.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 07, 2012, 02:28:59 PM
It's now available for pre-order.  Ships late July.  $79.  Board only, which is fine by me.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 07, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
If i get without USB can it be easily added later?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 07, 2012, 02:46:40 PM
No clue.  What do you need the USB for?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 07, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
USB is just a connector that's soldered on. You could have someone, or yourself, solder on the connector later if needed. But I don't know for what purpose you would need it for. I'm interested in trying this card out. Can't wait to get it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on July 07, 2012, 03:53:23 PM
He said the USB connector is mainly for developers, minor inconvenience without it (more PC's with USB ports than SD). If your PC doesn't have an SD port (regular size will do, micro SD cards come with an adapter that allows them to be plugged into a regular sized slot), you'll need to use a device that allows for USB-to-external-SD-drive behavior like a digital camera for a example.

My PC is about 3 years old now and does have an easily accessible port in the front with USB/Firewire/SD/MMC/eSATA, etc. but if it didn't, I know I could use my camera: 1) Plug micro-SD card into SD adapter, 2) plug SD adapter into the camera, 3) find the USB cable that the camera came with, plug it into the camera's port and the USB to the PC obviously, 4) turn camera on, etc. You should now have an external drive that'll show up to copy all ROM files into it via explorer. That's what you'll have to do, and probably only ONCE since all NEC ROM files (plus variant dumps) total about 300 MB, so even a cheap 1GB card will do. Last time I needed a 4GB micro SD card (for my new phone), I paid $5 bucks for it retail at a pretty cool PC store called Microcenter.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on July 07, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
these work good for a couple bucks... http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-SD-MMC-Card-Reader-TF-to-Micro-SD-Adapter-/130533782372?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item1e646b7364
haha it even says "video game accessories" in the url

I've had a few SD card slots die over the years
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Greg2600 on July 07, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Krikzz himself has an option for the USB installed for 15 bucks on his site (retrogate.com).  Stone Age Gamer does not.

http://stoneagegamer.com/turboeverdrive_boardonly.aspx
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Deletion on July 07, 2012, 04:41:57 PM
Just placed an order. Now where's a good place to get ROMs?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on July 07, 2012, 04:48:59 PM
^ would like to know also since I never played a single rom yet
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 07, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Ok anyone that recently got the Neo Flash card getting one of these?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Mishran on July 07, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Ok anyone that recently got the Neo Flash card getting one of these?

I am. Use one on the go and one for home. Only thing I have on my Neo anyway is translations, homebrew, and magical chase. :-"

Load the entire TG/PCE library onto the Turbo ED and take it on vacation for those long road trips. :wink: Hell, might even sell the Neo card. Haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 07, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
Do a Google search to get TEH ROMZ.  Be warned, though, it's illegal.  You WILL be arrested and you WILL get 5 years in prison for each TEH ROMZ u download.  But it's worth it.  :)

I'm finding a lot of ROMs that say "Sound Rip from xxxx Game.pce".  Are these legit?  They don't seem to work in any emulator.  I'd love to be able to play back all Turbo/PCE/SGX music on my real TurboGrafx-16 with a special ROM or ROM set.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on July 07, 2012, 09:12:43 PM
these work good for a couple bucks... http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-SD-MMC-Card-Reader-TF-to-Micro-SD-Adapter-/130533782372?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item1e646b7364
haha it even says "video game accessories" in the url

I've had a few SD card slots die over the years


Oh nice, that's awesome, problem solved. Yeah, no need to pay $15 extra for a built-in USB port.

Now this, http://stoneagegamer.com/turboeverdrive_boardonly.aspx
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1 Free Firmware update coupon (expires after 1 year of purchase)


??? Kinda lame. So...firmware updates are gonna be held hostage for more money after a year ?? Is that just something with this retailer or what ? Well, I sure hope the 99% compatibility claim is accurate.

Anyway, wow, he's the real deal though, I thought I would be buying it from him as an individual, but he's in a full-fledged business partnership with a bunch of online stores...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 08, 2012, 01:06:52 AM
How is the usb port used for development? When connected to a computer, does it mount the SD card as a drive?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 08, 2012, 02:31:04 AM
Any feedback from the current Everdrive carts? Also I was going to get the Everdrive MD but now thinking the Mega Everdive might be the way to go...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 08, 2012, 03:14:15 AM
Any feedback from the current Everdrive carts? Also I was going to get the Everdrive MD but now thinking the Mega Everdive might be the way to go...

I have the regular Everdrive for Genesis and I think it's pretty great. Got the board version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 08, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
The regular Everdrive is awesome.  I'll probably get a Mega Everdrive eventually. No rush, though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on July 08, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
How is the usb port used for development? When connected to a computer, does it mount the SD card as a drive?

That's what I would think, just saves you some time, not having to move the SD card around all the time to update its contents. This was his response when I brought up the SuperGrafx issue with him:
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Thanks a lot for info. I already moved SD slot to the middle of the board, USB still on old place, but usb port need only for people who want develop something, 99% of cart will be sold without usb port, since USB completely useless for gamers. So i think that USB is not a problem for most of sgx owners
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 08, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
We should really push for the savestate option for the Turbo Everdrive, that alone would justify the purchase of another PCE flashcard. It's currently an option for the Mega Everdrive.

Joe - if you were to purchase a Mega Drive flash cart again would the Mega Everdrive be the no brainer? Cost is pretty steep but the save state seams like it would be worth it.


The regular Everdrive is awesome.  I'll probably get a Mega Everdrive eventually. No rush, though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 08, 2012, 05:05:22 PM
Yeah I would.  I'll probably sell my current Everdrive at some point and get the Mega.  I just like all the new features plus the huge-ass rom size (80mb) which is great for homebrew and special audio and video recordings and other such nonsense.

The Turbo Everdrive cannot have a savestate.  He'd have to make a Mega Turbo Everdrive.

Now somebody figure out a way to play HES files on real hardware please!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 08, 2012, 06:18:44 PM
I own the EverDrive MD. It's excellent. No complaints. I expect the Turbo ED to be similar.

The idea of save states probably won't work on the hardware present. Since many registers aren't readable you probably need hardware spying on register writes and it also would help to have alot of extra ram which the turbo ed has no ram at all. It's just flash rom for memory to contain the OS and load games. You can still hope for cheat support if you need to cheat in games.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on July 09, 2012, 05:35:36 AM
Now somebody figure out a way to play HES files on real hardware please!


Charles MacDonald wrote a converter to turn HES files into PCE romz (linky (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=1824.msg23642#msg23642)).  Sadly the link to the utility is dead, but maybe someone has it sitting on their hard drive or knows of another place to find it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on July 09, 2012, 05:52:46 AM
Now somebody figure out a way to play HES files on real hardware please!


Charles MacDonald wrote a converter to turn HES files into PCE romz (linky (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=1824.msg23642#msg23642)).  Sadly the link to the utility is dead, but maybe someone has it sitting on their hard drive or knows of another place to find it.


I thought there were some other folks, too, who had some ideas on how to pull this off (Bonknuts, covell...)

I know a bunch of us have fantasized about playing HES files on real hardware, with or without a feature-laden software/utility.

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on July 09, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
I have the hes to .pce converter on some of my computers. I'll look for it and post it when I have time. Might be easier to just secretly pm the sound roms though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 09, 2012, 12:05:45 PM
I am now awaiting secret PMs of ALL HES ROMs.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 09, 2012, 12:33:18 PM
Just pre-ordered mine. Got the USB version because when I do Genesis development I have to keep swapping the SD card back and forth from the Everdrive MD when testing on hardware.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on July 09, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
Is the process of development that hardware-dependent for you that doing most of or as many of your tests on an emulator first isn't sufficient enough before occasionally swapping the SD card/updating contents to see how it looks on real hardware ?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 10, 2012, 01:44:27 AM
Is the process of development that hardware-dependent for you that doing most of or as many of your tests on an emulator first isn't sufficient enough before occasionally swapping the SD card/updating contents to see how it looks on real hardware ?

I don't have to do it all the time, but there's been a few times where I had to swap back and forth. I had several crashes on hardware that didn't occur on emulators, and some differences in music playback with the sound library I was using. After my Genesis project, I'll be looking at PC Engine development. So I don't mind paying an extra 15 bucks now for a bit less pain later on.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on July 16, 2012, 01:39:18 AM
I have the hes to .pce converter on some of my computers. I'll look for it and post it when I have time. Might be easier to just secretly pm the sound roms though.


Help my feeble mind figure out how to play PSG tunes on real hardware (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcds.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 16, 2012, 04:35:17 AM
I just placed my order today.  The item is on backorder, so who knows when I'll get it, but at least I have my place in line.  I can play with my wonky NeoFlash in the mean time.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Deletion on July 19, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
Stone Age Gamer just posted a video about creating shells for the Turbo EverDrive.

Turbo EverDrive cart shell vacuu-forming experiments
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on July 19, 2012, 04:11:09 PM
would be cool if it were clear plastic or had a rectangle window on top. I like the looks of the guts.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on July 19, 2012, 06:12:10 PM
Skeleton Turbo Ever drive. That would be PIMP! as if the card isn't already.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on July 19, 2012, 08:07:50 PM
Are these going to be really limited production? Do I need to order one as soon as possible, or does Krikzz make up more cards every so often?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on July 19, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
Are these going to be really limited production? Do I need to order one as soon as possible, or does Krikzz make up more cards every so often?

Have you found a source that still has them in stock?

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on July 20, 2012, 12:14:28 AM
Negative :(
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on July 20, 2012, 06:40:04 AM
Can the ROM of the System Card work on the Turbo EverDrive??

Like playing Drac X on the TG-16 with the CD Unit, But you don't have the cards
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on July 20, 2012, 06:43:21 AM
Unfortunately no, you can't use it as a system card.

Re ordering them, they will be in production for a while and not limited, so no rush. I don't believe anywhere has them in stock as yet, although they are being sold on a pre-order basis at Retrogate (krikzz's store) and some have even been shipped out.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on July 20, 2012, 06:48:39 AM
Thanks Frank

Will Krikzz do an update for it to act like a System Card??
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on July 20, 2012, 06:52:33 AM
Unfortunately no, you can't use it as a system card.

That's not entirely true - they can be used as system cards where the memory is already in the system, such as flashing a TG-CD BIOS for use in a TurboDuo to see SuperCD error screens.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on July 20, 2012, 07:00:25 AM
So the System 3.0 Bios is already flashed in the Turbo EverDrive?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on July 20, 2012, 07:01:11 AM
Yeah, but it won't actually act as a system card though.

I don't believe that Krikzz will ever release an update to allow it, but he may develop a new card with extended functionality like he's done with the Mega Drive card, but I doubt system card functionality will be included.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 20, 2012, 08:03:02 AM
The Turbo EverDrive will be in production for awhile. No need to worry that you won't get one. He can only make them so fast so just keep checking for when they are available.

The Turbo EverDrive cannot act as a CD System Card such as the Super System Card 3.0. There will never be an update or upgrade to do this either. Never. The Turbo EverDrive contains a generous amount of Flash ROM memory. However it contains no RAM, which is required for the Super System Card 3.0 or Arcade Card. The System Cards below 3.0 and possible the Games Express System Card roms *may* work if they are indeed just BIOS roms and contained no RAM or extra hardware.

It is doubtful he will ever develop an equal to the Mega EverDrive for the Turbografx. The reason he may the Mega EverDrive is because that was his favorite system. For now, the Turbo ED is as good as it gets. It will be available just keep checking.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on July 20, 2012, 09:10:01 AM
Thanks for the info Mott

I'm still getting one
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on July 20, 2012, 09:12:03 AM


Re ordering them, they will be in production for a while and not limited, so no rush.

Right on!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 20, 2012, 08:16:38 PM
I wonder if I can use it to play Altered Beast on CD with a pretend System 1.0 card.  I don't see why I couldn't.  Or maybe some Games Express games, that is if those cards don't have RAM.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on July 20, 2012, 09:42:40 PM
Thanks for the info. I really want to get my hands on one of these soon!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on July 21, 2012, 04:01:01 AM
I wonder if I can use it to play Altered Beast on CD with a pretend System 1.0 card.  I don't see why I couldn't.  Or maybe some Games Express games, that is if those cards don't have RAM.

Yes, it works with other flash cards if you are playing on a Duo or Super CD, which physically has the required ram. The rom on the card just takes over for the "bios".
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 21, 2012, 04:17:05 AM
What about the TurboGrafx-CD?  To my knowledge the System 1 and 2 cards didn't have any RAM in them.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on July 21, 2012, 04:59:14 AM
What about the TurboGrafx-CD?  To my knowledge the System 1 and 2 cards didn't have any RAM in them.

Nope, you're SOL. The physical card itself can be found cheap though, as can the HuCard version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 21, 2012, 06:01:00 AM
You can always give it a try and tell us if it does work. Either way the Turbo EverDrive will be a great accessory.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on July 23, 2012, 01:28:13 AM
Are there any bare leads, or soldier points, on the backside of the card?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TR0N on July 23, 2012, 01:31:27 AM
Damn i miss out on buying one when they were in stock at retrogamer.I would have bought one but i was broke,oh well i'll just have to wait for krizz to make more.

By the way has any one try it out on a region modded one ?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 23, 2012, 04:14:23 AM
Oh wow they are sold out of the other carts too. Will the other ones like SNES or N64 restock??
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 23, 2012, 08:54:11 AM
Yes they will. Currently no EverDrive has yet been discontinued. But they probably get backed up with so many different carts that must be produced and tested. And anytime a new cart comes out they are busy with that I'm sure.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 23, 2012, 11:30:03 AM
A little off topic but will there ever be a NES Everdrive? I think the current NES FLASH CART is little pricey. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 23, 2012, 01:02:34 PM
$135? Really? I don't think that is pricey. Considering how much you probably spent on your PCE console, or how much brand new games for modern systems cost. $135 for a NES flash cart that will play pretty much every licensed NES game is a good deal.

Anyway, KRIKzz was asked about doing a NES EverDrive and he was not terribly interested in it last time it came up. Afterall he's done, Megadrive twice, N64, SNES, now makes the SD2SNES carts too, Master System, Game Gear, and now TG16/PCE. Compared to other systems the NES is pretty involved to make a flash cart for because of all the different memory mappers. The Gameboy/Gameboy Color has a few different mappers and is requested alot too. It may become a reality. Not so sure about NES. Also bear in mind he lives in a country where the NES doesn't exist. I think just Famicom clones maybe.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 24, 2012, 06:10:15 AM
when it comes to the NES I am a cheap bastard, I just bought Famicom Splatterhouse game, and that is the most I ever spent on a NES / Famicom game (like $21).

So yeah, it is for me. $80 price point would be ideal since I don't play NES as much.

Can't really compare that to what I spend on PCE because that is a whole different story. =)

$135? Really? I don't think that is pricey. Considering how much you probably spent on your PCE console, or how much brand new games for modern systems cost. $135 for a NES flash cart that will play pretty much every licensed NES game is a good deal.

Anyway, KRIKzz was asked about doing a NES EverDrive and he was not terribly interested in it last time it came up. Afterall he's done, Megadrive twice, N64, SNES, now makes the SD2SNES carts too, Master System, Game Gear, and now TG16/PCE. Compared to other systems the NES is pretty involved to make a flash cart for because of all the different memory mappers. The Gameboy/Gameboy Color has a few different mappers and is requested alot too. It may become a reality. Not so sure about NES. Also bear in mind he lives in a country where the NES doesn't exist. I think just Famicom clones maybe.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 24, 2012, 10:33:24 AM
The NES / Famicom has tons of games worth playing. It's easily worth the $135. You just need to see a list of games you are interested in.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on July 24, 2012, 11:29:44 AM
The NES / Famicom has tons of games worth playing. It's easily worth the $135. You just need to see a list of games you are interested in.


Absolutely. The NES/Famicom is so worth it. I love that goddamn system.  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 24, 2012, 01:18:45 PM
Last summer I spent so much time and money on yard sales, ebay and Kijiji to fuel my collection that buying a 135$ device was the cheapest way to get everything. I realized that I didn't really want to manage a collection, I just wanted to play any game I wanted when I felt like it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 24, 2012, 02:22:38 PM
I guess I was holding out hoping that Krikzz would make one, but after you explained that the system wasn't in his country it makes sense. I was just wanting newer hardware for spending that much, but looks like the Powerpack is the way to go.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on July 26, 2012, 01:37:50 AM
Got my shipping notice from retrogate this morning. Turbo Everdrive is in the mail.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on July 26, 2012, 01:55:56 AM
Got my shipping notice from retrogate this morning. Turbo Everdrive is in the mail.

Good news, be sure to report back here with a review once it's in your hands.

I know a few people have received theirs already and early reports suggest that's it's very well built/solid and works in region/RGB modded Duos and Duo-R's.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on July 26, 2012, 02:05:03 AM
I want to order one of these for sure.
As soon as anyone gets this in the mail, they should upload a nice 1080p youtube vid of it in action!
I never played any downloaded games...should I expect any lag or glitches compared to the original version game?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on July 26, 2012, 02:07:28 AM
If it's like his other cards, the games should play identically to their original counterparts. The only difference will be an initial 5 second load time.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 26, 2012, 06:28:05 PM
Can't wait, just got a Everdrive MD and it works great, can't wait to try the turbo version!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: bartre on July 26, 2012, 07:08:41 PM
i'm never too sure about flash carts personally.
part of me wants it real bad, but another part says "hey, you can just build repros of the unreleased ones"
i dunno, maybe when i move i'll sell all my shiz and just buy some flash carts.
everything i've heard says the everdrives are great though, i was really impressed when i saw the N64 one in person.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on July 26, 2012, 10:48:11 PM
Mine finally is confirmed as shipped.  I've never been so excited about a flash device in my life.  I picked up the mega everdrive a while back and it turns out to be great which is why I have a lot of faith for this thing.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on July 27, 2012, 04:17:05 AM
part of me wants it real bad, but another part says "hey, you can just build repros of the unreleased ones"

So where do I send monies for a Magical Chase repro?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on July 27, 2012, 05:27:22 AM
part of me wants it real bad, but another part says "hey, you can just build repros of the unreleased ones"

So where do I send monies for a Magical Chase repro?

I'll PM ya and you just wait, k?  ;)
Send ze monies to my cousin in Nigeria. He'll hook you up on some inheritance money too.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 28, 2012, 10:51:12 AM
I got my Turbo Everdrive today. Works great. Only problem is the power switch, the safety blade thing that is designed to keep idiots from pulling out the HuCard with the power on, hits my Micro SD card so I have to push on it when I turn the power on. But other than that, everything I tried worked great so far. And I use a RGB Modded DUO-R system. Very happy with the Turbo ED so far.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 28, 2012, 11:05:35 AM
Are you using one of those micro sd adapters? You could probably dremel the corner off and it should be fine. I will try it on mine when it arrives.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 28, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
No, the Micro SD card itself. What would you use to adapt something to a Micro SD card anyway? It's smaller than your fingernail already. Anyway, it's a minor issue. We are talking about a millimeter space issue.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on July 28, 2012, 06:11:34 PM
This takes a micro SD card itself; the adapter you're thinking of is a large-sized looking SD card and you plug the micro SD card into that so you can then plug it into your computer (assuming you have a SD port in the front panel). If not, I dunno what other adapter that you were thinking of...

I got my Turbo Everdrive today. Works great. Only problem is the power switch, the safety blade thing that is designed to keep idiots from pulling out the HuCard with the power on, hits my Micro SD card so I have to push on it when I turn the power on. But other than that, everything I tried worked great so far. And I use a RGB Modded DUO-R system. Very happy with the Turbo ED so far.

Ah, excellent! I'm not one that can throw money around and I saw risk here, so I wanted to wait until others bought it to find out if it works as advertised. But eh, I'll have to wait a month or so; I just bought some bowling shoes, paid for my car insurance, car city+state taxes, etc. so bleh, I don't need to throw extra stuff on my CC till I'm clear next month.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on July 28, 2012, 06:19:11 PM
I'm still waiting on mine.  Pre-ordered from Stone Age Gamer and haven't heard word on shipping yet.  I am not sure if he notifies when shipping.  I should have gone with Retrogate.  They shipped my Mega Everdrive and Everdrive 64 pretty fast.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 28, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
Ah I assumed it was a standard SD so that makes sense now

This takes a micro SD card itself; the adapter you're thinking of is a large-sized looking SD card and you plug the micro SD card into that so you can then plug it into your computer (assuming you have a SD port in the front panel). If not, I dunno what other adapter that you were thinking of...

I got my Turbo Everdrive today. Works great. Only problem is the power switch, the safety blade thing that is designed to keep idiots from pulling out the HuCard with the power on, hits my Micro SD card so I have to push on it when I turn the power on. But other than that, everything I tried worked great so far. And I use a RGB Modded DUO-R system. Very happy with the Turbo ED so far.

Ah, excellent! I'm not one that can throw money around and I saw risk here, so I wanted to wait until others bought it to find out if it works as advertised. But eh, I'll have to wait a month or so; I just bought some bowling shoes, paid for my car insurance, car city+state taxes, etc. so bleh, I don't need to throw extra stuff on my CC till I'm clear next month.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 28, 2012, 07:42:54 PM
Just an update on the Turbo ED. I've tried a fair sample of games and so far all have worked fine. Nothing yet that has refused to load. Infact you can load the System Card roms too. So for example you can load System Card 1.0 on your DUO with the Turbo ED to play Altered Beast. You could also load 3.0 rather than remove the Turbo ED from the console.

If someone here with more hardware configurations gets the Turbo ED please test CD System Card loading. I suspect that any Super CD-ROM equipped PC-Engine system will function just like the DUO. And I suspect that the Turbografx 16 or PC-Engine with standard CD-ROM attachment could use the Turbo ED with System Card 1.0 and 2.0 as I do not think they contain any RAM on the cards themselves. I'm fairly certain neither will appreciate having System Card 3.0 loaded on a standard CD-ROM attachment with the Turbo ED as the RAM will not be present.

So anyway, the Turbo ED is excellent. The minor issue with the Micro SD card in the way of the switch a little bit doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on July 29, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
Shame to hear about the power switch issue, maybe he can alter the design for future releases.

Re the system card ROMS, I doubt that any of them would actually function as intended?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 29, 2012, 06:27:52 AM
The power switch issue again is minor and may be due to my Micro SD card being slightly longer or maybe the card socket was slightly up or maybe the power switch protection blade is just slightly closer in. It's a minor issue that others haven't had. I was the only one to mention it so far.

The System Card ROMs DO work in the DUO. I was able to load up and play Lords of Thunder just fine. I did not try a standard CD-ROM game or Altered Beast yet, but I assume they would work.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: schnuth on July 30, 2012, 09:00:42 AM
     I received my Turbo Everdrive this weekend and wanted to post my first impressions.  It works great with my Multimods.com region modded S-Video Duo-R, which is a relief as my NEO PCE card refused to work with it.  It also works great with my TurboExpress as well.  I haven't tried every game, but the couple dozen I tested out worked just fine on both Japanese and USA region hardware.  I haven't tried any system cards as I have a Duo and a Arcade card already.
 
     As for the power switch issue MottZilla is having, I haven't had a problem with this at all.  I'm using a Kingston MicroSD card and the power switch guard clears the card just fine.  I haven't had a lot of time to play with it as my 10 month old keeps me very busy these days, but I'll post some more impressions when I have the time.  I will say this is light years better then the Neo PCE card which only held a finite number of games, and sometimes they would write to a bad block and didn't work.  As a owner of the MD, GG, and Super Everdrives, the Turbo Everdrive is just as easy to use and has the same amazing build quality.  I highly recommend it.

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on July 30, 2012, 09:04:59 AM
Got my delivery notice!!!!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: reno5 on July 31, 2012, 04:44:18 AM
Verified and they are sold out. Guess i'll have to check from time to time to get my hands on one.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on July 31, 2012, 05:53:45 AM
mine's still in transit but it's been shipped.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 31, 2012, 06:53:57 AM
Demand right now is probably pretty high. All new EverDrive carts tend to have this issue. You are right, just keep checking. Eventually a new batch will be available. If I remember right the reason he isn't taking more orders right now was he ran out of PCBs and the shipment of new PCBs got delayed. But more will be available sooner rather than later so keep checking. I recommend checking once a day, maybe whenever you check your email.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 31, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
I got my shipment notice yesterday, so hopefully it will be here in a couple of weeks.  I have no idea how long airmail from Ukraine takes.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on July 31, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
Where is here? For me, it was to the USA and it took under 2 weeks from when I got the shipping notice email to receiving it. 11 days.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on July 31, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
Hopefully he can make a deluxe version, I don't want one that is bare.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on July 31, 2012, 07:59:14 PM
Im on the fence about getting one of these.  Im going to actually buy any HuCARD that I want to play, but it could be useful with those translated roms. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on August 01, 2012, 05:57:27 AM
Im on the fence about getting one of these.  Im going to actually buy any HuCARD that I want to play, but it could be useful with those translated roms. 


In the future I'll buy this Everdrive (it certainly seems like the best card yet), but I have purchased the NeoFlash and the homegrown one (designed by a fellow forum member) because there are a handful of translations and pricey HuCARDs that I want to play on a real console.

For me, it's worth it for a handful of games.

I own tons of games, but I am still infatuated with a few that are "out of reach"... (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 01, 2012, 07:09:10 AM
Damn, just found out about this and they are already sold out. I have a neo flash but would love this get this.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 03, 2012, 10:30:14 PM
Mine arrived yesterday and I love it.  I wouldn't even own a pc engine if it wasn't for this flash cart.  Because of the turbo everdrive I'm now able to test the hucard library on the real hardware and I've started collecting hucards of the games I really like.  The low pass filter audio mod I did sounds amazing with all games which is great to know (lots of bass).
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on August 04, 2012, 02:27:52 AM
Got mine yesterday as well. It didn't come with a manual so I've got two questions:
1. Is the PCE/TG16 switch for the console you plug it in or for the region of the game you want to play?
2. What does the little clicky button do?

Tried a few games and the large majority worked. Two games I tried didn't: a version of Street Fighter II CE that just got stuck at a black screen after loading and a game I don't know anything about called Zipang.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on August 04, 2012, 02:30:20 AM
The region switch is to be set to the same region of the console you are using it on. It is not a region select switch for games.

To take a guess, maybe the clicky button is a reset button? I have no idea though as I don't own one yet.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 04, 2012, 02:36:35 AM
The clicky thing is indeed a reset.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 04, 2012, 03:04:59 AM
Must have this!! Anybody knows where I can still order one?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on August 04, 2012, 03:12:43 AM
The clicky thing is indeed a reset.

Yup! Tried it. Pretty convenient.

Edit: Retried SFIICE. It was just a bad dump. Tried another one and it worked.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 04, 2012, 07:52:31 AM
It's surprising how many bad dumps are floating around.  I went through a lot of bad dumps setting up my mega everdrive.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 04, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
Why do bad dumps even get posted online if they're bad?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: grahf on August 04, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
Because a lot of emulators are resilient enough to play anything.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 04, 2012, 06:12:38 PM
That just means the emulator isn't accurate.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 04, 2012, 07:46:25 PM
Bad dump.....   haha!   Seriously tho, with all the goodsets and no-intro sets of pce roms, there is no reason to end up with a bad dump.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: grahf on August 05, 2012, 12:26:17 AM
That just means the emulator isn't accurate.
Not exactly. When the first emulators were coming out, the only roms available were from the handful of game copiers that were around back then. None of them produced "pure" dumps - they all had headers, interleaving, etc. The emulators simply supported what was there.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 05, 2012, 03:57:57 AM
I grabbed the entire pc engine / turbografx library of roms.  All these roms have been cleaned up any every single one I played works great on my turbo everdrive.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 05, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
I grabbed the entire pc engine / turbografx library of roms.  All these roms have been cleaned up any every single one I played works great on my turbo everdrive.

How did you clean thoses roms?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 05, 2012, 04:12:19 PM
I find that once through the dishwasher usually does the job.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 05, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
I find that once through the dishwasher usually does the job.

Coolbeans, I'll give this a try;)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 05, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Ha!  I love this.

I find that once through the dishwasher usually does the job.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 05, 2012, 11:58:42 PM
I grabbed the entire pc engine / turbografx library of roms.  All these roms have been cleaned up any every single one I played works great on my turbo everdrive.

How did you clean thoses roms?

I never said I cleaned them up they came clean.  Clean meaning the turbo everdrive likes it.  I tried some other random roms from the internet at first and some worked but others didn't.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 06, 2012, 02:28:41 AM
I thought maybe you have used a hex editor to clean them. I'm sure running it thru a dishwasher works too :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on August 06, 2012, 02:32:33 AM
Just get the no-intro set. They are pre-cleaned and ready to go.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 06, 2012, 06:21:12 AM
Here's the amazing pcb cover I made:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/turboeverdriveawesomecover.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 06, 2012, 06:29:14 AM
It worked for a Duo system I have that had a bunch of leaky caps. Why not the Roms too!


I find that once through the dishwasher usually does the job.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 06, 2012, 07:33:27 AM
Here's a quick cover I just built:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/tedcase.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/tedcase2.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/runsfine_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on August 06, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
Here's the amazing pcb cover I made:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/turboeverdriveawesomecover.jpg)

 8)


Hm, so after purchasing this, how about getting that liquid electrical tape and pouring over most of the PCB? Good idea or ??

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 06, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Last I heard, one of the big wigs at Stone Age Gamer was developing clear Vaccu-Formed Plastic Shells (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?31764-PCE-TG16-HuCard-Everdrive/page23#443) that could snap onto it.

*Edited: Changed "Thermoformed" to "Vacu-Formed", and added an inline linkage to one of his vacu-formed prototype images.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 06, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
snap on?  And hold onto what?  There's nothing for it to clip onto.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 06, 2012, 03:47:06 PM
I assumed it would snap into the little holes in the PCB.
I'm not sure; I don't own one; I've only seen pictures of it.

Failing that, if someone had a resin kit (or something else along those lines), they could probably make some molds for a shell.
It could have several pegs/pillars that go through the holes in the PCB.
If the pillars were hollowed-out a bit, one could include some screws that could be twisted in from the underside of the PCB, perhaps.

Or, you could skip the screws and use a dab of epoxy on the chips, and possibly on part of the SD Card Slot Shield.
The pegs should still be there, to help resist slippage, at least.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on August 06, 2012, 04:13:38 PM
So... good idea to coat liquid tape over the PCB ? I'm pretty sure I've never damaged anything electrical via a static charge, but I don't wanna start now either when I get this. Looks like he used good, lifetime tantalum caps, so I don't see any repairs I would ever have to do forcing me to remove the coating years from now. Anyhow, this thing is definitely a pretty final solution! Sounds like everything works and it'd be a perfect companion to my ole TurboExpress!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 06, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
So... good idea to coat liquid tape over the PCB ? I'm pretty sure I've never damaged anything electrical via a static charge, but I don't wanna start now either when I get this. Looks like he used good, lifetime tantalum caps, so I don't see any repairs I would ever have to do forcing me to remove the coating years from now. Anyhow, this thing is definitely a pretty final solution! Sounds like everything works and it'd be a perfect companion to my ole TurboExpress!
I'm not sure if it's safe to do that, but if it is, it would be pretty cool, and an almost effortless solution.
Pun intended.  :D
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: thesteve on August 06, 2012, 05:20:21 PM
http://www.ellsworth.com/dow-corning-1-2577-silicone-conformal-coating-453g-bottle/
this is the standard
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 06, 2012, 11:52:40 PM
I assumed it would snap into the little holes in the PCB.
I'm not sure; I don't own one; I've only seen pictures of it.

Failing that, if someone had a resin kit (or something else along those lines), they could probably make some molds for a shell.
It could have several pegs/pillars that go through the holes in the PCB.
If the pillars were hollowed-out a bit, one could include some screws that could be twisted in from the underside of the PCB, perhaps.

Or, you could skip the screws and use a dab of epoxy on the chips, and possibly on part of the SD Card Slot Shield.
The pegs should still be there, to help resist slippage, at least.


(http://krikzz.com/image/cache/data/Cartritge/Turbo Grafx-360x300.jpg)

Oh wow there really are four extremely tiny holes I didn't even notice that.  The bottom ane sides of it are flush against the case.  On mine I used a small amount of hot glue since with epoxy there's no going back.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 07, 2012, 04:53:01 AM
Quote from: Drakon
(http://krikzz.com/image/cache/data/Cartritge/Turbo Grafx-360x300.jpg)

Oh wow there really are four extremely tiny holes I didn't even notice that.  The bottom ane sides of it are flush against the case.  On mine I used a small amount of hot glue since with epoxy there's no going back.
Bold Mine.

Good idea, especially if you want to add a USB Port to it (and/or that 10-pin header thing in the top middle) in the future.

Are there any traces on the back side of the card, near the four holes, that a screw head could damage?

Also, is there any word on when they'll be back in stock?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 07, 2012, 05:39:26 AM
There's traces on the bottom but not many.  I'm at work right now so I can't check if they're near the holes.  There's no space for anything to stick out the bottom so screwing upwards from the bottom would be the best solution.  You'd need very teeny screws and a teeny screwdriver but atleast he was nice enough to include holes in the pcb.  I didn't use the holes I just secured the front and side edges to seal it as much as possible from liquids.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 07, 2012, 06:33:01 AM
I don't get why everyone is so paranoid and wanting to encase the thing. Hold it from the edges like you do a CD. Put some electrical tape over the JTAG port if you are worried and use that as your point to pull it out of the system.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 07, 2012, 06:50:06 AM
I don't get why everyone is so paranoid and wanting to encase the thing. Hold it from the edges like you do a CD. Put some electrical tape over the JTAG port if you are worried and use that as your point to pull it out of the system.
1. MSRP $80.
2. Uncertainty about long-term availability.
3. Crazy/careless siblings or kids.
4. Modders gonna mod.  :mrgreen:

Most people will just leave it in the console 99% of the time, since you can load some of the system card images onto it.

IIRC, you're limited to only loading sys card images that don't require ram chips be on the TED, so core system users can't use the last 2 (I think?), but duo users can only not use the ACD image.
I can't recall if a rom of that weird third party system card (game express?) can be used or not.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 07, 2012, 05:12:32 PM
Uncertainty? Barring a personal tragedy, KRIKzz will likely be making the Turbo ED for quite some time. $80? There are PCE CDs and HuCards that are quite pricey too so that doesn't seem like a stand out reason. Point 3 seems reasonable if you have to deal with idiots messing with your stuff. Point 4, you just mean they do it to do something? I guess why not, but I don't think the card is particularly vulnerable.

And if you have a DUO and don't need to play an Arcade CD-ROM, there is no need to remove the Turbo ED unless you are going to play an actual HuCard. System Card 3.0 and also the Games Express System Card both work fine with it. You are right though that if you don't have a Super CD-ROM or DUO then you apparently can't use the Turbo ED while playing Super CD games.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TR0N on August 07, 2012, 06:43:51 PM
unleadlogic has done a review of the TG16 everdrive recently.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 07, 2012, 07:05:51 PM
Thanks for the link!
My favorite part is at the 1:32 /1:33 mark.  O:)  :-"  :mrgreen:

But seriously, I'll re-watch it later today, when I have access to a PC with speakers, so I can hear what's being said.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 07, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
Yeah, I am going to be getting one of these...soon as they are back in stock....  :(
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 07, 2012, 07:38:09 PM
I'm not sure if this had been asked before, but...

If someone were to make a cheat device homebrew rom, sort of like an Action Replay, do you think it could work on the TED, with the Game ROMS on the micro sd card, without any rewriting of it's firmware, or is a cheat device already programmed into it?
Has Krizz said anything about integrating Cheat-Code-Capabilities in a possible future revision of the TED?

Yeah, I am going to be getting one of these...soon as they are back in stock....  :(
I'm strongly considering doing the same. I really miss all of the games I sold, and my Duo.
The TED will be really convenient, allowing me to keep the games I'm gonna reacquire in the future, safely tucked away in storage.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 07, 2012, 07:57:53 PM
I've already got the Neo Flash Cart, I was tempted to buy one, but I'll wait until stoneagegamer comes out with the deluxe version.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 08, 2012, 06:44:31 AM
There's a review of the turbo everdrive:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 08, 2012, 09:36:56 AM
There's a review of the turbo everdrive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0nun1TQVLs&feature=youtu.be


Yeah....it was just posted a few posts back....  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: TR0N on August 08, 2012, 07:22:31 PM
There's a review of the turbo everdrive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0nun1TQVLs&feature=youtu.be

I just that posted it on the last page silly shesh !!!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 08, 2012, 10:53:37 PM
Completely random gameplay footage ftw:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 09, 2012, 03:35:11 AM

Yes Bernie let me know lol, more footage of the Turbo Everdrive in action:

It looks like that it runs a whole lot better than the team neo one that I have.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 09, 2012, 03:38:34 AM
I tried retrogate and they are all out of stock, I asked if he was going to in the future have a cover for it and he said that it would be unlikely
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: wilykat on August 09, 2012, 10:43:14 AM
I am planning to get one from Stone Age for the nice cover and all. I was wondering, would the CD system card work?  I'd like to have 1.0 to play Altered Beast and 3.0 for other games.

PS why is Altered Beast unable to work on newer cards? Someone at NEC used illegal opcode that was removed?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 09, 2012, 12:01:42 PM
I got the cd system bios to run but I don't have an actual cd system to test if it's running right.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 09, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
The CD System Bios works as long as you play only regular CD-ROM games if you have a regular CD-ROM but if you have a Super CDROM (includes the DUO) it will also work with Super CD-ROM games. The reason is that the Turbo EverDrive does not contain the required RAM like a real system card. But if you have a Super CD-ROM the memory is already present and seems to work fine with a flashed BIOS rom running.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on August 10, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
more footage of the Turbo Everdrive in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9caLo5OL8c

It looks like that it runs a whole lot better than the team neo one that I have.


Cool, that answered my question about how firmware updates would work. This guy Krik, what an awesome electrical and software engineer! To have made one flashcart for a system and have that feather in your cap would be impressive enough, but to go as far as he has with all the systems that he's made them for...just wow! I'm gonna be able to order one next couple of days if it's in stock.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 10, 2012, 10:54:53 PM
It's a great piece of hardware I've been using it for a while with zero issues.  I built a cover for mine and relocated the reset switch on top of the cover and it's still running great.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 11, 2012, 02:20:51 AM
Stone Age Gamer's Deluxe Edition TED:
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/540270_509158462433899_1789006454_n.jpg)

Someone posted this image, the other day, at http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?31764-PCE-TG16-HuCard-Everdrive&p=603306&viewfull=1#post603306

Man, it looks sweet.  :shock:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Chuplayer on August 11, 2012, 02:27:05 AM
That is sweet. I'll definitely be waiting for it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 11, 2012, 02:27:35 AM
Looks great but really you shouldn't put anything on the bottom or sides.  Even the pin half of the top you won't have space I couldn't even fit a single layer of electrical tape in all these spots.  If you do manage to get it in that way you'll likely bend all the slot pins and regular hucards won't contact very well.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 11, 2012, 07:04:01 AM
I agree, KRIKzz did not design the board to have any type of covering on it. By changing the thickness you could be doing damage to the HuCard Slot. And we don't exactly have a source for new ones for now. So any difference in thickness had better be very minor. Which I suppose that may be possible.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 11, 2012, 08:11:36 AM
After receiving my TE, I have absolutely no qualms about the fact that it's a bare board. And I agree about not covering the bottom, as it will change the insertion angle.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Chuplayer on August 11, 2012, 08:35:07 AM
Well, crap. I guess I'm not getting one with the cover, then.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 11, 2012, 09:53:08 AM
got mine in the mail, anyone notice how thick the board is?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: djcouchycouch on August 11, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
This isn't really a fully formed idea, but would it be possible to create a kind of adapter that would connect to the back of the TG16, take a USB key or SDCard and simulate a CD-Rom drive? And use the Turbo Everdrive for your CD system card?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 11, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
This isn't really a fully formed idea, but would it be possible to create a kind of adapter that would connect to the back of the TG16, take a USB key or SDCard and simulate a CD-Rom drive? And use the Turbo Everdrive for your CD system card?


I don't know if the fpga on the turbo everdrive is powerful enough to simulate the extra ram found in the cd system cards.  And probably krikzz is the only person capable of knowing how to program the OS for how it's used.  And yes I'm sure you could build something that plugs into the back and uses fpga to simulate the cd drive, but nobody has bothered yet and it takes a good amount of skill to build something like that.

Anyway I relocated the reset switch on my turbo everdrive on top of my custom case:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/tedcover2.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/turboeverdrivecover.jpg)

I know my case is very rough looking but it's absolutely perfect in terms of functionality.  I love having all the exposed hardware covered up nicely.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: roflmao on August 11, 2012, 02:37:59 PM
That's pretty sweet, Drakon.  Man, I want one of those.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 11, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
That's pretty sweet, Drakon.  Man, I want one of those.

Thanks, obviously this's just something I quickly threw together for the sake of being able to play it and not worry about it getting somehow fried.  This's more like a prototype of how someone should make cases for them.  Really all you need to do is get a thick piece of clear (or whatever colour) plastic cut the same way I cut it (but with a machine doing it for extra precision).  Then you just carefully lightly hot glue the edges making sure that there's no extra glue on the sides so it still fits nicely.  And if the plastic you use is thin enough you wouldn't even need to relocate the reset button but I used a really thick piece for extra strength.  I started out with thin cheap plastic and it broke too easily which is obviously no good.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Mishran on August 11, 2012, 03:22:25 PM
Would it be possible to put a thin coat on the sensitive part of the board with a non-conductive material like a lacquer, hot glue, etc? Just a thought...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: HercTNT on August 11, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
they make some kind of spray for that. i honestly can't think of the stuff. maybe someone can post a link if they knwo what i'm referring to
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 11, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
Just for the sake of being able to repair the pcb I put on a cover that's removable without damaging the pcb.  It's alway good to be able to remove a cover.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 11, 2012, 03:38:51 PM
This isn't really a fully formed idea, but would it be possible to create a kind of adapter that would connect to the back of the TG16, take a USB key or SDCard and simulate a CD-Rom drive? And use the Turbo Everdrive for your CD system card?

I don't know if the fpga on the turbo everdrive is powerful enough to simulate the extra ram found in the cd system cards.  And probably krikzz is the only person capable of knowing how to program the OS for how it's used.  And yes I'm sure you could build something that plugs into the back and uses fpga to simulate the cd drive, but nobody has bothered yet and it takes a good amount of skill to build something like that.

You can't "simulate" the extra RAM. And the Turbo ED contains no RAM at all. However on a Super CD-ROM system, the RAM is available to other HuCards as the Turbo ED can run BIOS images. So the Turbo ED could possibly use a hacked BIOS image and load off the SD card. But there would be no redbook audio. Though with the USB port you could in theory cue another device like a PC to play the audio.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 11, 2012, 10:58:07 PM
You could probably fpga the entire cd unit but it would take a much stronger fpga than what the turbo everdrive has most likely.  You could build it with ram and anything else it would need.  I'm sure you could fully recreate redbook audio with a powerful enough fpga setup.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 12, 2012, 07:07:14 AM
Here is my case, just for storage:

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6539/20120812110357139.th.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/20120812110357139.jpg/)


(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8343/20120812110404273.th.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/20120812110404273.jpg/)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 12, 2012, 07:42:50 AM
That's a nice case.  Where did you find it?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 12, 2012, 08:27:22 AM
It is a cover that came with an old PCMCIA slot card for an old IBM laptop. The hucard sleaves fit but this protects better
 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 12, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
It is a cover that came with an old PCMCIA slot card for an old IBM laptop. The hucard sleaves fit but this protects better
 
I've seen those PCMCIA Cases for sale online, at several websites, for around three bucks each.
I haven't purchased anything from the sites I saw selling them, before, so I have to leave that recommendation up to someone else.

I wonder if Stone Age Gamer is planning on bundling one of those cases with his tricked out version of the TED.  :-k
If his Deluxe Edition fits in those cases, it would be ideal.

Actually, now that I think about it, if his DE fits in those cases, I can go ahead and just use it.
I was planning on getting one of his DE's and encasing it somehow, so I could have it on display in my game room.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 12, 2012, 09:11:02 AM
Not the one i have but $2 on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alesis-QCard-standard-PCMCIA-Card-Jewel-Case-NEW-/251093242805

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 12, 2012, 09:18:52 AM
Not the one i have but $2 on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alesis-QCard-standard-PCMCIA-Card-Jewel-Case-NEW-/251093242805


Thanks for the linkage; I just bought one. I'm gonna see if it will at least fit a standard HuCard. I'll let ya'll know, when it gets here.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 12, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
They fit standard hucards but are a little loose
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 12, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
They fit standard hucards but are a little loose
That's cool; there needs to be some extra thickness for the plexi-shield over the chips on the Deluxe Edition Turbo Everdrive, anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on August 12, 2012, 01:53:16 PM
That looks like a pretty good deal on Ebay for a $2 case. He has a bunch of them and 100% feedback. I think it looks really nice in that case.

Ok so whats the word on when the everdrive is going to be for sale again?? How long is the wait? I might have enough $ in the next week or so and I really want one.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 12, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
That looks like a pretty good deal on Ebay for a $2 case. He has a bunch of them and 100% feedback. I think it looks really nice in that case.

Ok so whats the word on when the everdrive is going to be for sale again?? How long is the wait? I might have enough $ in the next week or so and I really want one.
Good question. I'm wondering the same thing.

Ironically, I sold my Duo last year, as part of the fundraising effort to get the HuCard Sleeves made...  #-o
Even so, I can hardly wait until the Deluxe Edition gets released.
That thing is a work of art, and I'm going to display it as such.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/540270_509158462433899_1789006454_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 12, 2012, 02:10:44 PM
Whoa that is deluxe edition??!!???
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on August 12, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
I want a white one with red lettering that says "PC-Everdrive".....lol
What is the deluxe version just cosmetic changes?
It says on the website....
Quote
Looking for Deluxe Edition? We currently do not know if a Deluxe Edition will be possible for this product. If we do make a Deluxe Edition we will offer a Deluxe Edition upgrade kit to customers who purchased their Turbo EverDrive from Stone Age Gamer. The price of the kit will be the difference in price from Board Only to Deluxe Edition.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 12, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
Yep.
At least, I think it is.
I can see the Stone Age Gamer logo under the E in DRIVE.
That's why I've been so jazzed about it today.  :mrgreen:

I want a white one with red lettering that says "PC-Everdrive".....lol
What is the deluxe version just cosmetic changes?
It says on the website....
Quote
Looking for Deluxe Edition? We currently do not know if a Deluxe Edition will be possible for this product. If we do make a Deluxe Edition we will offer a Deluxe Edition upgrade kit to customers who purchased their Turbo EverDrive from Stone Age Gamer. The price of the kit will be the difference in price from Board Only to Deluxe Edition.
I grabbed the photo off of another forum.
I think he has it on display at that retro gaming convention in Nevada?

If it's just a CG Mockup that never gets made, I'm going to be really disappointed.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: wilykat on August 12, 2012, 04:13:32 PM
Also waiting for Stone Age to get them in stock so I can get em.  I'll take the USA standard orange/yellow though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 13, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
I built a new quick case for mine:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/newcaseside.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/newcase.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/newcase2.jpg)

I havn't decided what to do with the front of it yet which is why there's just electrical tape there for now.  This was built using the back plate from an official rectangular nes control pad.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: HercTNT on August 13, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
I did something like that for my pce pro 32. it was not pretty but it got the job done.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 14, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
I built a front cover:

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/casefrontout.jpg)

(http://imgboot.com/images/Drakon/casefront.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 14, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
Here is mine

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/292/20120814202116572.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/20120814202116572.jpg/)

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 14, 2012, 04:44:42 PM
And a nice clamshell case to store it....stoneage gamer who? ;-)



(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/396/20120814204251430.th.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/20120814204251430.jpg/)

And here it is in action:



(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5852/img20120814204702.th.jpg) (http://img859.imageshack.us/i/img20120814204702.jpg/)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 14, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
Wow, you guys really wanna cover that thing up!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 15, 2012, 12:37:30 AM
I have a lot of sacrificial plastic from various other mods and I like to make my electronics safe so I thought it would be fun.  DuoR can you take a picture of it from the side?  How's it secured?  Also is it eay enough to press the reset switch?  I relocated my reset switch betcause it was driving me nuts how hard it was to press it when there's a case around it.

Also where'd that plastic come from?  It looks great whatever you did to it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 15, 2012, 03:16:05 AM
It's pretty simple 5 points of hot glue holding it down, it's on there pretty solid. It looks good from the side too. The button could be a little easier to hit I think, but it works.

Plastic came from a smartphone battery cover, I had red but it looked like a Christmas ornament with green and red
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 15, 2012, 04:34:31 AM
Coolness.  I'll probably wind up purchasing some momentary surface mount switches so I can play around with installing the reset button in a better way than on a piece of glued breadboard.  I'm glad you didn't put any casing around the bottom and sides.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 15, 2012, 05:05:13 AM
Yeah the switch could be designed a little better, if i had another one i would mess with it more.


Side shot, also i wonder if that is paint that stoneage used.

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5236/20120815090119433.th.jpg) (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/20120815090119433.jpg/)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 15, 2012, 06:34:39 AM
It's a part of the everdrive expereince right? I mean your Everdrive MD wasn't a bare PCB!   :D  You gotta cover up the naked PCB!

Wow, you guys really wanna cover that thing up!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 15, 2012, 07:56:16 AM
I could always pay for someone else to do it but I get so much leftover plastic from commission work I figured it'd be more fun building something for myself.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 15, 2012, 09:31:07 AM
OK - 3D rendering of the insert for the new case:

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1774/everdrivecover.jpg)

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8513/everdrivecover2.jpg)

(note - the watermark is discoloring some of the logos on the bottom)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: reno5 on August 15, 2012, 10:01:47 AM
NICE !
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 15, 2012, 10:17:50 AM
I might update the screenshots on the back with something more interesting. Is there any interest in this especially those that didn't buy from Stoneage?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on August 15, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
Heh, not bad!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: 8bitForLife on August 15, 2012, 11:51:58 PM
looks nice
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on August 16, 2012, 05:37:43 AM
Cool mock up on the boxes and nice work on the covers!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: reno5 on August 16, 2012, 06:19:39 AM
Still watching everyday to get one :) They are still sold out.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 16, 2012, 08:20:34 AM
Yeah even on the official everdrive forum krikzz hasn't given any time estimate for the next batch.  He's probably at the mercy of the company that makes the pcbs.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Nando on August 16, 2012, 08:55:51 AM
Still watching everyday to get one :) They are still sold out.

Kicking my self for missing out the first time around too. :(
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 17, 2012, 05:52:51 AM
The turbo everdrive is back in stock at retrogate.com
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 17, 2012, 01:08:23 PM
Mine came today!

I am using a TurboGrafx-16 with CD-ROM and YES System Card 1.0 will work on the Everdrive and run Altered Beast perfectly.  The Games Express card boots up as well but I don't even know of any Games Express games to try, but I imagine it will work.

I have a Mac so there are a lot of garbage files that show up in the directory when browsing on my TG-16.  Krikzz will eliminate these in an OS update I'm sure (I let him know about it).  Not an issue if you mount the SD card to a Windows PC instead of a Mac.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 17, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Has anyone tried out the Turbo Everdrive with a DUO R from doujindance, as I read there have been problems with using the neo flash cart.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 17, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
I have one from him but I haven't tested it yet, I am sure it will work fine. This was just RGB however I added the region mod myself.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: schnuth on August 17, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Not the one i have but $2 on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alesis-QCard-standard-PCMCIA-Card-Jewel-Case-NEW-/251093242805




Thanks so much for posting about these cases.  I got one and it's pretty awesome.  I feel better having my Everdrive in the case while I'm not using it.  Thanks again!

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MottZilla on August 18, 2012, 09:23:30 AM
Has anyone tried out the Turbo Everdrive with a DUO R from doujindance, as I read there have been problems with using the neo flash cart.

I have a DUO-R from him with the RGB mod, no region mod, and it works fine. I believe I saw someone else that had one of his newer ones that had the region mod too and it worked fine for them.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 18, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
^Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 19, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
The turbo everdrives are out of stock already.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 20, 2012, 01:08:58 AM
Haha that was fast.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: GameFreak on August 20, 2012, 04:19:49 AM
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Kicking my self for missing out the first time around too.

Oh yeah? Im kicking myself for missing out the SECOND time around!
Restock soon pleeeeeeeeeeez!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 20, 2012, 04:34:01 AM
Has anyone tried out the Turbo Everdrive with a DUO R from doujindance, as I read there have been problems with using the neo flash cart.

I have an RGB & region-modded Duo-R from him, and it works fine with the Everdrive.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 20, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
My pce cd unit showed up today.  Running the version 1.0 bios from the turbo everdrive works like a charm.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 20, 2012, 02:35:15 PM
Are there System 2 games that aren't compatible with the 1.0 card?  I tried running Last Alert with 1.0 and it worked great.  The voice acting might even have been a bit better!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: wilykat on August 20, 2012, 02:41:57 PM
Been waiting on Stone Age Gamer but they seems to have gone somewhere right about the time retro got some stock in.

I wanted to get the deluxe version if they can make it work.  When the get back in some days, I hope to snag one when it becomes available so I can get the deluxe upgrade later.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on August 22, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
Just got mine from retrogate and works flawlessly in the GT, TG16 and Duo R modded by doujindance.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: csgx1 on August 28, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
Looks like retrogate has more instock now. 

I'm not sure if I want to wait longer and pay more for the deluxe version from Stone Age Gamer.  Are most of you that haven't bought yet, waiting for a possible deluxe version?  Any word on what SAG might charge for their deluxe version if released?

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 28, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
Yeah, about to order but do I need the USB option?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on August 28, 2012, 09:48:06 AM
IIRC:
~ Firmware Upgrades can also be done with MicroSD Cards.
~ The USB Port is for Game/Hombrew Developers.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 28, 2012, 07:48:51 PM
Yeah, about to order but do I need the USB option?

If you want to use that for homebrew then sure....otherwise no.  I got the one without USB because it won't fit in a supergrafx with the usb thing.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 28, 2012, 07:50:20 PM
it looks like you could easily add the part if you ever wanted to in the future
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on August 29, 2012, 02:11:10 AM
Birthday gift to myself, ordered it yesterday without the USB port. Woot! Woot!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 29, 2012, 03:34:53 AM
Happy bday Turbo!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esadajr on August 29, 2012, 04:01:45 AM
not for me. I got the GOY card. I don't mind re flashing the card from time to time and I'm supporting american economy.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on August 29, 2012, 05:49:07 AM
Birthday gift to myself, ordered it yesterday without the USB port. Woot! Woot!

Best purchase evar!

My mega everdrive was my "I got a new job!" gift.  My turbo everdrive was my ...uhh..... "I'm rich enough" gift?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: csgx1 on August 29, 2012, 06:20:21 AM
Birthday gift to myself, ordered it yesterday without the USB port. Woot! Woot!

Best purchase evar!

My mega everdrive was my "I got a new job!" gift.  My turbo everdrive was my ...uhh..... "I'm rich enough" gift?

Nice!  Well, I just ordered a Turbo Everdrive since I couldn't wait.  lol, I have no job, no money and my b-day has passed already.  I guess X-mas is coming early for me. :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on September 07, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
Happy bday Turbo!

Thanks Duo-r, my turbo everdrive just arrived today.  Now I need to pick up a micro sd.  Street Fighter II is already preloaded which pretty sweet.  Since there is no instructions or manual, how do you load the rome?  Just drap n drop into the micro sd?  Never owned a everdrive before.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on September 07, 2012, 12:31:43 PM
Happy bday Turbo!

Thanks Duo-r, my turbo everdrive just arrived today.  Now I need to pick up a micro sd.  Street Fighter II is already preloaded which pretty sweet.  Since there is no instructions or manual, how do you load the rome?  Just drap n drop into the micro sd?  Never owned a everdrive before.

Yup, drag & drop.  I think there is a limit to the number of files that can be in one directory, though.  The whole TG16 library can go in one folder, but when I had the whole PCE library in another folder, I could only see the first 100 or so.  So I had to split them up into a few folders.  Best ways to do it are either by starting letter (so you could have A-D, E-G, etc), or by genre.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 07, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
I tried Populous, the only HuCard with a battery save and yet it saves to the internal RAM of my awesome TurboGrafx-CD Interface Unit.  What's the battery save for?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on September 07, 2012, 04:53:03 PM
Good question Joe, hopefully somebody can answer that.

Chris, you're right on.  I had to split the pce roms into two folders. 

All I can say is the everdrive is freakin awesome.  Every roms I tried loads up, doesn't matter if they are PCE's or tg16's and doesn't matter what region systems because it works on the my turbo express and supergrafx.  Even the supergrafx games loads fine (even the opening soundtrack of aldynes loads up on my express) where else before I could only get 1941 to work with the neo flash cart. No missing around with headers or anything. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 07, 2012, 05:20:01 PM
You've just gotta make sure you download good TEH ROMZ.  I had a lot of bad Turbo ones that I had to seek out replacements for.  I have a bunch of dupes in my PC engine collection because the titles of the games are so nonsensical and the same game may be titled two or three separate ways, resulting in dupes.

Also, is the PC Engine version of Twin Hawk really called Tiger Shark?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: meka on September 08, 2012, 04:40:31 AM
No Intro Rom Sets are good rom sets, they only use verified roms.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on September 08, 2012, 05:59:24 AM
No Intro Rom Sets are good rom sets, they only use verified roms.

Yup, that's what I use.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bloody Wolf on September 08, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
Those peeps that had the older flash cards, are ya dumping those now?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on September 10, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
I tried Populous, the only HuCard with a battery save and yet it saves to the internal RAM of my awesome TurboGrafx-CD Interface Unit.  What's the battery save for?

Are you new here?  :P

As has been discussed many times before, Populous does not have battery save on the huey; the RomRam logo refers to the onboard ram used ingame.

P.S. - the only HuCARD with battery save is the Tennokoe Bank.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 10, 2012, 12:12:25 PM
What is the extra RAM used for?  And Populous wasn't really a game I would care to be much more informed about, so I probably overlooked those threads.  It's a good game, yeah, but I was always kind of indifferent to it until now.  Seems to run fine on the Everdrive from what I've played of it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on September 11, 2012, 02:59:15 AM
What is the extra RAM used for?

It needed room for all the stuff it has to keep track of - big, interactive maps with lots of people and structures.

Seems to run fine on the Everdrive from what I've played of it.

How far in did you play it?  Maybe it doesn't need the extra ram until some of the later levels.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 11, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Not far, maybe 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on September 12, 2012, 08:37:19 AM
Will the prices for older flash cards goes down??
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Deletion on September 12, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Will the prices for older flash cards goes down??

A better questions is will the manufacturers of other flash carts improve their products to be more competitive with the TED?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Drakon on September 13, 2012, 05:29:30 AM
I seriously doubt they'd improve the products.  Prices may go down, or people will just stop buying them.

Will the prices for older flash cards goes down??

A better questions is will the manufacturers of other flash carts improve their products to be more competitive with the TED?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: thesteve on September 13, 2012, 11:17:30 AM
having repaired a neoflash card, there is room for improvement
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Deletion on October 24, 2012, 05:07:37 PM
Stone Age Gamer's has some updates on the Deluxe Edition. Apparently he has a good number of TEDs in stock for the folks who placed orders and are waiting for the Deluxe Edition and is holding off on selling any more units (Deluxe or Board Only) until the Deluxe Edition is ready for sale. His post reads:

"I am getting a lot of e-mails and messages about the Turbo EverDrive and when it will be in stock. We have decided to not stock any Turbo EverDrives on the site until the Deluxe Edition is complete OR the small chance it doesn't come to fruition.

The reason we are doing this is because we already have almost 50 people on hold who purchased a Board Only that are waiting for possible Deluxe Edition. From our experience from the people who ordered from us about 80% to 90% want to wait. We can not continue to build this ON HOLD list, by the end we may have 100+ waiting for the product that is not finished. This is something we do not want to do.

What about people who don't want the Deluxe? Well to prevent confusion we still do not want to list the Turbo EverDrive (Board Only) on our site until we are close to a finished Deluxe. We feel it may just become confusing and a lot of those people will buy in a panic instead of waiting for the choice of what versions. We have a good amount of "surplus" boards for Board Only and Deluxe that will be made available once Deluxe is finished.

The plastics company said they will be doing our small run tomorrow to allow us to finish prototyping. So we hope sometime next week we will have a small amount of cut plastic in to finish the product. We will obviously post pictures once we have something.

Lastly, if you are someone who bought a Board Only and are waiting for possible Deluxe. If you no longer want to wait please reply to your order confirmation e-mail and we will fill your order as-is."


Photo caption: Turbo EverDrive with smoke plastic circuit area cover. Board has not been coated in black vinyl coat yet, but I figured everyone would want to see something ASAP.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/580_540540965962315_18956594_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384236_540540975962314_1950373510_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/293868_540543045962107_1178589686_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on October 24, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
Wow, all this waiting and messing around for that? It looks rather simple, which isn't a bad thing but it really depends on the price. StoneAge do seem to charge an incredible premium for their deluxe editions, anyone know what they plan on charging for this? I wouldn't be a happy camper if I were waiting for an order to be fulfilled and I didn't want to wait for a $2 piece of plastic.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on October 24, 2012, 06:13:53 PM
Pretty long wait for something so simple. Glad I did my own


Here is mine

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/292/20120814202116572.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/20120814202116572.jpg/)


Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on October 24, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
But it's not as cool looking and it doesn't come in black... ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on October 24, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
Always buy from Retrogate. Stone Age Gamer is pretty useless. He probably doesn't want to sell the board only versions because he can't profit as much from it. He's all about the crappy "deluxe" versions which are all pretty useless. How hard is it to find a normal cartridge shell at a thrift store and use that if you really need it? The Turbo Everdrive certainly doesn't need a "deluxe" edition, especially something emblazoned with Stone Age Gamer's logo on it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: sirhcman on October 25, 2012, 12:42:34 PM
Always buy from Retrogate. Stone Age Gamer is pretty useless. He probably doesn't want to sell the board only versions because he can't profit as much from it. He's all about the crappy "deluxe" versions which are all pretty useless. How hard is it to find a normal cartridge shell at a thrift store and use that if you really need it? The Turbo Everdrive certainly doesn't need a "deluxe" edition, especially something emblazoned with Stone Age Gamer's logo on it.

Thanks Joe, I was wondering where the best place to get one of these was.. A tad off topic but do you or anyone else here have any experience with the SMS Everdrive?

PS: Love your show!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on October 28, 2012, 07:47:32 AM
Ya, stone age gamer just adds a bunch of useless fluff (like a plastic case, paints the cartridge) and adds $50-$70 to the price.  If you buy PCB only you still pay $5-$10 more at stone age.  Avoid that place for flashcarts.  They do occasionally get good deals on console clones however, if you're into that sort of thing.

But yes, avoid for flashcarts.

Quote
Pretty long wait for something so simple. Glad I did my own

Ya, I love how stoneagegamer used terms like "prototyping" a small piece of plastic that isn't even an odd shape with 2 half circles cut out, held in by screws...lol

Probably just took it to a local fabricator.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on October 28, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
Pretty long wait for something so simple. Glad I did my own


Here is mine

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/292/20120814202116572.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/20120814202116572.jpg/)





That's pretty good Duo_r, if you can print on it would perfect!!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on October 28, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
It'd be pretty sweet if you could actually replicate an actual hucard shell and place it in that.  I bought a crap keith courage hucard just to see if I could and realized it wasn't possible =/
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on October 30, 2012, 05:54:11 PM
How much will the deluxe version be??
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on October 30, 2012, 07:22:14 PM
Add $50-$70 to the bare board.  Or you could just order here like a sane person:

http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on October 30, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
Haven't messed with it for a while but wouldn't be hard to add a logo on the plastic.

 
Pretty long wait for something so simple. Glad I did my own


Here is mine

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/292/20120814202116572.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/20120814202116572.jpg/)
Haven't messed with it for a while but wouldn't be hard to add a logo on the plastic.




That's pretty good Duo_r, if you can print on it would perfect!!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on October 31, 2012, 06:44:51 AM
Add $50-$70 to the bare board.  Or you could just order here like a sane person:

http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm


Yeah, $79 with shipping included is a damn good deal for this thing! It does look very cool what StoneAgeGamer is doing with the vinyl coating and the top plastic piece, but the jacking up of an already good price is the issue. For $89 I'd maybe consider it, but not for another $20-$30+ as they'll probably be able to justify with the fancy case and manual. If they're going as high as $50+, pffft, f*ck that...
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on October 31, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
I bought my original Everdrive and my Turbo Everdrive board-only from the developer.  For some reason I bought my Super Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer.  They put it in a shell, added a label, but that into a universal game case, and included a couple of free firmware upgrade coupons.  The thing that pissed me off is that the firmware update coupons both have expiration dates.  So my Super Everdrive coupons are already void.  So basically I paid maybe $40 extra for a shell, label, and universal game case.  Whoop-f*cking-pee.  Then when the TurboEverdrive got released, I didn't know about it, so I missed out on the first wave of them.  I asked SAG why they didn't send out an e-mail to previous Everdrive customers, and their response was that if I wanted updates about products, I would have to "like" them on Facebook.

They also won't sell people the game cases that they had made for the TE.  So if I wanted one, I would have to send them my Everdrive so that they could "upgrade" it to the deluxe version.  All I want is the f*cking case.  These people remind me of Neo Geo Freaks.  "Send us your Turbo Everdrive and we'll freak it for you."

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on October 31, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
You could always find a better Case and Insert for the TurboEverDrive
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on October 31, 2012, 04:14:16 PM
I bought my original Everdrive and my Turbo Everdrive board-only from the developer.  For some reason I bought my Super Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer.


I had made contact with Krizz on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/biokrik), exchanged a few PMs and pointed out that there might be problems given placement of the USB port and what not with the SuperGrafx given SamIam's concerns, etc. Anyway, that was about 4-5 PMs going back'n'forth, bringing that to his attention, praising the work, etc., but then I guess I pushed my luck with the last PM where I asked if I could buy it directly from him hoping I could save a couple of bucks versus his retailers... Well, he never responded back to me after that. ;) We call that one a polite "no..." Hehe. Ah well, I tried. I assume when you did it his site http://krikzz.com/ had an integrated shopping cart to order direct from him and not a bunch of links to all the retailers that he's made a deal with for his products.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on October 31, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
I bought my original Everdrive and my Turbo Everdrive board-only from the developer.  For some reason I bought my Super Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer.


I had made contact with Krizz on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/biokrik), exchanged a few PMs and pointed out that there might be problems given placement of the USB port and what not with the SuperGrafx, etc. That was about 4-5 PMs going back'n'forth, but then I guess I pushed my luck with the last PM where I asked if I could buy it directly from him hoping I could save a couple of bucks from his retailers... Well, he never responded back to me after that. ;) We call that one a polite "no..." Hehe. Ah well, I tried. I assume when you did it his site http://krikzz.com/ had an integrated shopping cart to order direct from him and not a bunch of links to all the retailers that he's made a deal with for his products.


Retrogate.com is his storefront.  Buy from there, and you're buying from him.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on October 31, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
You could always find a better Case and Insert for the TurboEverDrive

I bought a jewel case for a PCMCIA card off of eBay, as it should be the right size.  Hasn't arrived yet, though.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on October 31, 2012, 05:01:31 PM
Retrogate.com is his storefront.  Buy from there, and you're buying from him.

Ah, you're right, looks like it is. The domain is owned by someone in Germany (and for some reason, Germany is excluded from shipping to), but when you look up info on shipping, it mentions tracking via the Ukrainian Post which is in Krikzz's country. The other correction is I thought the $5 shipping charge was included, a change in policy, but it's not, so $84 bucks altogether is the total like he had said originally when I asked.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on October 31, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
Yes retrogate is definitely his storefront.  I've ordered a Everdrive 64, SD2SNES and a turbo everdrive from there and each time I've contacted that store, Krikkz himself replied.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on October 31, 2012, 08:19:06 PM
How is that SD2SNES BTW? I think I would like to buy that one day as well! How many chips did he emulate (eh, he tells you, but I dunno how much of the library that translates to), or rather, how much of the SNES library works with it ? It can't possibly be 100%, eh?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on October 31, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
I'd like an SD2SNES as well but they only make like 5 a year or something ridiculously low. I wish it had an FX2 on there.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on November 01, 2012, 12:16:47 AM
The technical aspects start going over my head very quickly, but I remember from my days with an SNES copier talking on relevant forums that the SFX, the SA-1, the SDD-1/SPC-7110 and maybe one or two others aren't easily put into a flashcart or a copier because these chips are given customized access to specific parts of the ROM that varies case by case. They also have their own work-RAM (~32kb, I think). It's probably not altogether impossible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't feasible with the current methods.

The following chips are supported in the SD2SNES:

    BS-X memory map / Satellaview base unit registers (clock)
    DSP1 / 1b
    DSP2
    DSP3
    DSP4
    ST-010
    Cx4
    MSU1
    S-RTC
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on November 01, 2012, 01:25:45 AM
SD2SNES is nice, the problem is that even though it emulates the special chips, they aren't really emulated correctly.  Like CX4, with megaman x2/X3, there is a lot of in-game lag that shouldn't be there just when doing charged shots when there are 2 or more enemies on screen.  

The best thing about it, is no having to hold reset or anything to save your SRAM.   Also loading roms is far faster than the super everdrive and SNES powerpak.  SuperFX could be added by the end of the year (minimal) and is being worked on.  Personally I'd rather see SA-1 implemented but it doesn't look possible as it's more powerful than the superFX and more complicated.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on November 03, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
You could always find a better Case and Insert for the TurboEverDrive

I bought a jewel case for a PCMCIA card off of eBay, as it should be the right size.  Hasn't arrived yet, though.

Chris

If it's the right size, I buy one
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on November 07, 2012, 06:31:38 AM
I finally ordered a Turbo Everdrive. Only the usb version was available. Shipping to Canada was $5. Took about a week till I got a shipped notice.

I dont have time to reread this thread, so I'll just be a dick and blindly ask these questions here.

Will filing down the corners to make them round like a HuCard damage the pcb?

Would automotive paint damage the card, make it too thick to use or rub off on a console when inserting/removing?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 07, 2012, 09:29:28 AM
I don't think the PCB would be functionally damaged by filing it. The USB jack might get in your way on one side and the MicroSD card slot on the other, though. And I imagine paint would rub off after a while. I don't think most paint is conductive but I still wouldn't recommend it. You just get a lot of paint flakes inside your system.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on November 07, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
Does anyone here know the science behind this?

1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems

I've been wanting to pick one up to use with my modded Duo-R and am a bit concerned that I might not be able to use it.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Necromancer on November 07, 2012, 09:54:50 AM
I think that's due to some huey slots not having enough power for the region mod chip and the flash cart, which can be worked around by tapping a different source for more juice.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on November 07, 2012, 02:09:36 PM
Does anyone here know the science behind this?

1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems

I've been wanting to pick one up to use with my modded Duo-R and am a bit concerned that I might not be able to use it.

I have a region-modded duo-r and the turbo Everdrive works fine for me.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on November 07, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
I have a region-modded duo-r and the turbo Everdrive works fine for me.

Nice, that makes me feel a bit better about purchasing.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: bartre on November 07, 2012, 09:11:31 PM
I think that's due to some huey slots not having enough power for the region mod chip and the flash cart, which can be worked around by tapping a different source for more juice.
necro's right, all you have to do to fix it is tap 5v to the correct pin on the huey slot and all will be well.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on November 08, 2012, 01:28:20 AM
I don't think the PCB would be functionally damaged by filing it. The USB jack might get in your way on one side and the MicroSD card slot on the other, though. And I imagine paint would rub off after a while. I don't think most paint is conductive but I still wouldn't recommend it. You just get a lot of paint flakes inside your system.

Its the top corners near the pins that bother me in pics. If they were rounded, it would look much more natural.

Its really only the top side that I would like painted to look like a hucard. I only see wear and tear on the back side of real hucards.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: csgx1 on November 08, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
I've heard that the Plasti Dip spray works fairly well for car parts and for temporarily doing color changes over good existing car paint since it's removable.  Never used the stuff myself, but I hear its somewhat durable since it's rubberized.  Might work well for the top portion of the everdrive. 

What would be better than paint is if you can find a thin overlay material that's similar looking to the black portion of original Hucards. 

Not sure what Stone Age Gamer used for their deluxe version but it's probably (or should be) really durable since they also painted the bottom side.  Possibly enamel paint?  Honestly, I think the bare PCB looks better than painted.  Something with the holes and the trace lines showing through the paint makes it look cheap. 
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/223726_546585432024535_98181600_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398235_546585222024556_1514440700_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on November 08, 2012, 02:43:31 PM
That painted one looks horrible!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MotherGunner on November 09, 2012, 05:02:05 AM
I don't mind the paint.  I do prefer white though since it will match conventional fat Huey's a little better.

Oh, and I hope Sparky makes some neat labels and inserts for these!

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on November 09, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
Can anyone with a turbo duo and a turbo ever drive confirm if soldier blade (USA) has sprite artifacts on the title screen?  Also aero blasters enemy explosions, basically play through the first stage of aeroblasters and you should notice them about halfway through.  I know it isn't my rom because both these games play fine on my flash hucard on my duo and I'm using the no-intro rom set.

(http://snag.gy/WzkyQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 10, 2012, 07:23:14 AM
Does anyone here know the science behind this?

1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems


I have a converter which I use to play Japanese games on my US TurboGrafx-16 Entertainment Supersystem. Normally the Turbo Everdrive works just fine plugged in to the TG016. US and JP games play just fine with the switch set to US or TG or whatever it is. If I plug the Turbo Everdrive into the converter and then plug that into the TG-16, then I need to switch it to JP or PCE or whatever it is. It then proceeds to play the US and JP games just fine. I assume this would be similar to region modding.

I think that the 1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems was listed only because Krikzz did not have a region modded system to test and also there may be different kinds of region mods that may or may not hinder the experience.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: broken on November 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Soldier Blade on the turbo everdrive works fine on both my tg16 and white pce.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ConHuevos on November 10, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Ya I'm pretty certain I got a defective card, gonna mail it back.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on December 05, 2012, 06:10:43 AM
To bad SAG dosen't sell the case by it self, looks bad ass..
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MotherGunner on December 05, 2012, 06:46:11 AM
The preorder page has been updated with pricing and photos of the final product.

Photos
http://stoneagegamer.com/images/view.aspx?productId=5055

(http://stoneagegamer.com/images/products/detail/IMG_0630.JPG)

Preorder page
http://stoneagegamer.com/turboeverdrive_deluxe.aspx
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 05, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
To bad SAG dosen't sell the case by it self, looks bad ass..

Probably because if they did, too many people would buy the bare everdrive and then a case by itself.  A bare unit is about $75, and the deluxe version is like $140.  That's bad math.  The everdrive itself is a hell of a lot cooler than the bullshit that SAG came up with to go with it. I don't need stickers, instruction manuals, and a f*cked up looking unit.  I just need a case for my deal.  But that isn't enough profit so they have to come up with all of this useless ancillary bullshit to justify the near 100% mark-up.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on December 05, 2012, 03:45:48 PM
$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 05, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
f*ckin A.  I'd rather spend $75 or whatever on the bare Everdrive, and spend the other $70 or so on a sweet Turbo CD game or two.  Like Drac X.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on December 05, 2012, 05:00:32 PM
$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.
So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on December 05, 2012, 05:24:51 PM
$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.
So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....

No, people are stupid if they think it's reasonable to spend $60 on paper, plastic and a sticker.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 05, 2012, 05:30:02 PM
Right.  It's $60 for the packaging, basically.  He's probably making at least as much profit as the guy who makes the everdrive.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on December 05, 2012, 05:39:07 PM
Well, guess I'm stupid then.  I just don't see how you feel I'm stupid because I choose to buy that package deal.  But what do I know....  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Neurosis138 on December 05, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
I think it looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Frank_fjs on December 05, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
Everyone that buys it except Bernie is stupid. :D

Sorry to come off a bit harsh, just sick of being exploited in the retro scene.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on December 05, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
You aren't being exploited.  You have a choice.  Obviously some will choose to buy the naked board, and that's fine.  But some may like the look and not mind paying the extra for eye candy.  I just happen to be one of them.  I'd rather just pay someone else to make it look all pretty, than attempt to do it myself.  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: csgx1 on December 05, 2012, 07:24:29 PM
That custom case is pretty damn nice.  Seems like SAG put a lot more effort into making this deluxe package compared to the other deluxe Everdrives they did in the past. 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 05, 2012, 07:44:35 PM
Assuming that its a custom case.  I have my doubts. A custom injection mold costs thousands of dollars, and he would likely never recoup his costs.

And Bernie, I don't think you're stupid.  But I bought a regular original everdrive, and then ponied up for a SAG "deluxe" super everdrive, and I felt ripped off.  It was like an extra $40 for a shell with label, and a universal game case, along with 2 coupons for free firmware upgrades that had pretty stingy expiration dates (both expired long ago).  I just don't like SAG.  He signs up at various gaming forums to do nothing more than hawk his shit, and his primary sources of income seem to be shitty clone systems, and his profiting off of Krikzz's work with these "upgraded" deluxe versions of the everdrive line. Personally I would rather give my money directly to Krikzz so that he gets all of the profit, rather than buy one from SAG (that he of course got at a wholesale discount) so that he can take some of Krikzz's profit, along with adding some of his own for some stickers and a case.  He's a leach who is riding someone else's coat tails.  Just my opinion, of course.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on December 05, 2012, 08:04:21 PM
Now that gives me more to go on.  Knowing that you personally bought one and what it consists of makes me second guess.  It may be just as easy to buy a naked board and store it in an empty HuCARD case.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 06, 2012, 03:33:21 AM
Now that gives me more to go on.  Knowing that you personally bought one and what it consists of makes me second guess.  It may be just as easy to buy a naked board and store it in an empty HuCARD case.
. Actually, you can buy a jewel case for PCMCIA cards on eBay for about $2.50 shipped, and the TE fits in it perfectly.  I'll post a pic.  It would be cool to design an insert for it....

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 06, 2012, 05:24:40 AM
(http://www.jibbajaba.com/images/misc/TE_Jewel.jpg)

Here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alesis-QCard-or-standard-PCMCIA-Card-Jewel-Case-NEW-/251192450146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7c3c9c62) is what I bought, and who I bought it from.  Good seller.  $2.99 shipped. 

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ApolloBoy on December 06, 2012, 06:34:35 AM
I'm surprised I didn't think of that, I've actually got a few of those laying around. I think it'd be really cool for someone to design an insert, it'd be kinda like an FDS game that way.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 06, 2012, 08:01:46 AM
I'm surprised I didn't think of that, I've actually got a few of those laying around. I think it'd be really cool for someone to design an insert, it'd be kinda like an FDS game that way.

Or we could convince Sparky to design a decal...

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 06, 2012, 10:56:20 AM
I bought my bare Turbo Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer. I wish I hadn't. I just don't like the guy. I 've bought everything else from Retrogate and nothing but good times there and they actually respond to your e-mails. Not only that, they respond quickly.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on December 06, 2012, 11:14:45 AM
Why not just use a HuCard case?

(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/tecase1.jpg)


It is a HuCard.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 06, 2012, 11:58:56 AM
I bought my bare Turbo Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer. I wish I hadn't. I just don't like the guy. I 've bought everything else from Retrogate and nothing but good times there and they actually respond to your e-mails. Not only that, they respond quickly.

Yeah, that's where I'm at, as well.  I just don't like the dude.  Just little things like the expiration date on his firmware upgrade coupons, the higher price for the Turbo Everdrive "Deluxe Upgrade" for people who didn't buy the unit from him, and his extremely defensive attitude.  I just don't want to give him my money.

Chris
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on December 06, 2012, 01:27:39 PM

(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/tecase1.jpg)


It is a HuCard.


BEST POST EVER. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: KnightWarrior on December 06, 2012, 02:46:38 PM
Did you ask him if he give him the cut of the Deluxe Editions that are sold??

I won't buy from SAG for Flash Cart/Cards anyways

Why not just use a HuCard case?

(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/tecase1.jpg)

It is a HuCard.


Now that's Sexy
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on December 08, 2012, 02:37:27 AM
$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.

So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....

Well, guess I'm stupid then.  I just don't see how you feel I'm stupid because I choose to buy that package deal.  But what do I know....  :)


I'm kind of surprised at your reaction, Bernie. With all the information presented, you don't agree his price is highly questionable?? I wanted this version too, it looks great, and I waited to see what the price was gonna be, but $139.99 is a plain rip-off given what we know... I'd go as far as using outrageous... Little things have already annoyed me like krikzz pricing the regular one at $79.00 (the engineer that made it!) and this guy pricing it at $79.99 for that extra little dollar and playing that one-penny-less bullshit most US retailers play so as not to list a solid, even price ($80 in this case)... I f*cking hate that shit... He didn't spend the thousands of hours to design and build the thing, and he got to buy them in bulk, wholesale, much cheaper, but he deserves an extra dollar for some reason or so he thinks...

The other annoyance is that $8 charge for a cheap ass, 2GB microSD (class 4) card... I can get a 2GB for $3 bucks retail (http://www.microcenter.com/product/262859/2GB_Micro_Secure_Digital_(SD)_Flash_Media_Card), so that's a shit price right there, but at least that's selectable and thus avoidable... For $7 bucks you can get a 4GB class 10 card (faster write speed 10MB/s) at a minimum... Twice the memory and TWICE the speed for his shit price, see a pattern here ?? (Problem with this point though is that krikzz is doing it also, but again, at least it's an optional purchase and in his case, he's the guy that sacrificed thousands of hours to create the thing - more forgivable.).

You aren't being exploited.  You have a choice.  Obviously some will choose to buy the naked board, and that's fine.  But some may like the look and not mind paying the extra for eye candy.  I just happen to be one of them.  I'd rather just pay someone else to make it look all pretty, than attempt to do it myself.  :)


Yeah, he has the choice to set his price, and the public has a choice to buy from him or not, but the public also has the choice to criticize (or praise) his "pricing" as is being done here! I hope he IS catching some shit for that price and it's not all clapping seals just patting him on the back, telling him what a great deal it is!

You've taken part in the Gouging thread where profiteering/greed/gouging is criticized all the time, you don't see that here with this guy ?? Not gouging, but definitely greed/profiteering ?

No, people are stupid if they think it's reasonable to spend $60 on paper, plastic and a sticker.


Nail on the head, that's pretty much all he did and raised the price of the product by f*cking 76%! f*ck this guy! You think of the thousands of hours krikzz spent as a hardware and software engineer to make this flash cart possible, the best and only one you'll ever need, and this guy comes along with nothing more than an appearance tweak, a case, a manual, etc. and asks for a ridiculous markup like he did some serious heavy lifting which is nowhere near as comparable to what krikzz had to go through to create the thing or ever could be!!!! f*ck this guy! I was hoping for a total price of maybe around $100 or something (max, maybe $110 barely), but hell no, he's not getting my money; I'm gonna settle on the plain one and I think I might use some hot glue to coat it with for protection. I wonder if hot glue sticks come in black, all I got is standard transparent ones. That would work nice.

http://stoneagegamer.com/turboeverdrive_deluxe.aspx
Quote
Turbo EverDrive Cart (rev. 1.1)
Individually Numbered
Coated in clear conformal coat and black epoxy enamel to prevent dust, moisture and static shock
Semi-transprent smoke black shell
Color label
Held together with 4 gold plated screws


I mean, what the f*ck ? Gold-plated ? WHY ? Something wrong with plain ole brass ?? They're just f*cking screws!! Oh right, we can charge more noting that they're plated with gold for the "serious" gamer out there... A flashcart in Gangnam Style right here (that whacky song is partly a criticism of the excesses of the wealthy). Heh. That's not even a positive when you're dealing with RCA jacks and cables because plain ole copper is the better, cheaper conductor, while silver is the best, though not as cheap as copper. I dunno why they do it, maybe because it takes longer for it to tarnish or something... Anyway, wow, gold-plated screws... I would not have thought of that...

*shakes fist*

Screw this guy!!! ;)



FIRMWARE PATCH

EDIT: Well, I had been concerned about this firmware coupon bullshit of his, but I just learned that firmware upgrades are as simple as downloading a file called "tos.pce" from krikzz's website, copying it to your microSD card, plugging it back into the flashcart, and loading tos.pce from the boot menu like a regular ROM file. One year coupon bullshit or not from SAG, that's how you do it in this case! And there is a patch you'll need if you wanna fix a problem that prevents like more than two pages or more of ROM files from appearing due to a bug in the FAT32 code. If you have hundreds of ROM files, after 2 pages in the menu, they won't show up without this patch or so:

http://krikzz.com/pub/support/index.php?dir=turbo-ed%2Fos%2Fv2

Reference: http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.msg387#msg387

In trying to understand where this coupon business originated from, basically, you had to send the unit back to him to let him do the upgrade because of special hardware requirements in the case of the EverDrive64.

http://stoneagegamer.com/everdrive64_firmware_update.aspx

Doing it yourself required you to have the following: Altera USB Blaster (whatever that is), a 10-pin header (???), Altera Quartus II software, and a Nintendo 64... krikzz obviously got a little better in his methods for patching/upgrading the firmware/OS so having to send the flashcart back to SAG and hoping your coupon didn't expire (resulting in having to pay him to do it) is not a concern with most any other krikzz flashcart... Anyhow, in SAG's defense, when it comes to the EverDrive64, that makes sense, you gotta ship it to him, he does it, and he has to pay to ship it back to you, etc. But why the coupon business for the other carts with no special hardware and software requirements for the upgrade ? For those that are complete idiots ?? For the Turbo EverDrive, the process is the same as saving a ROM file to your microSD, which you gotta learn how to do to even use the damn thing... =\ In general, it strikes me as not being in his interest to clearly inform you of how simple it is to do it yourself because rather than mentioning "firmware upgrade voucher" it should just say to check krikzz's support section for an upgrade file if available, etc....
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Corredor X on January 18, 2013, 06:50:07 AM
I want to buy a Turbo Everdrive, but I'm a little afraid of it not working on my PCE because of the +5v voltage issue... Is there a way to know if a certain mod on a certain system will have issues? I have a white PCE with both RGB and region mod, which are very similar to the ones on the mmmonkey site (http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/category/nec/). Does anyone known if I could run into problems with it?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on January 18, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
this cart is solid, it's not as touchy as some of the older carts
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on January 18, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
Thanks for bumping the thread and reminding me that I wanted to order one of these.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on March 14, 2013, 01:16:05 AM
It's tempting to make a new thread, but I'll post in here for now.

Does anyone have a Turbo Everdrive and a Supergrafx? If you do, please load up Aldynes and let it run its demo cycle for a couple of hours. I'd like to know if it freezes on you.

I just got my everdrive and I've been testing it a lot, and I am inclined to think that Aldynes has either never been properly dumped or is incompatible with the everdrive. It freezes on me very frequently.

I know the problem is not my Supergrafx, because it plays every hucard I have with no trouble. I also have an original Aldynes hucard and it works just fine.

I know it's probably not the everdrive, because it plays every other game fine, including Daimakaimura and 1941 (also 1MB Supergrafx games), and others like Bonk 3 and Street Fighter 2.

I'm pretty sure it's not my particular ROM, because I've done some downloading from multiple sources and compared the checksums. I've also formatted my SD card and all that jazz.

It's alarming to see that there are five [ b ] versions of the ROM in the Goodset. [ b ] means it's a verified bad dump. Then there's the one version that has no marking - who's to say that that one came out all right? It works in an emulator, but that's not the best indicator.

I'm going to test the [ b ] roms just in case, but if someone else could check the basic version, that would be great.  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SamIAm on March 14, 2013, 03:25:07 PM
All of the [ b ] versions are officially borked (which is not surprising, because they are labelled as bad dumps).

If anyone else could test the plain, non-[ b ] version of the Aldynes rom on their actual console, that would be great.

How are Hucards usually dumped, anyway?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on April 04, 2013, 03:39:26 AM
I want to buy a Turbo Everdrive, but I'm a little afraid of it not working on my PCE because of the +5v voltage issue... Is there a way to know if a certain mod on a certain system will have issues? I have a white PCE with both RGB and region mod, which are very similar to the ones on the mmmonkey site (http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/category/nec/). Does anyone known if I could run into problems with it?


I just region modded my pce and now the everdrive does't load the games where else it did before. It's just the load or write in process is where it is not working. I have a region moded tg16 where it loads fine. When I put the everdrive in my pce/ifu combo and hit select to bring the last game loaded, it plays fine.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on April 19, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
FYI - updated the cover for the custom DS case I am using for this:

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6517/tegraphic3d2.png)

Quote
From the makers of such hits like Mega Everdrive and Super Everdrive comes the most amazing, axe swinging, dinosaur bonking, awesome true-color animation product ever released for the TurboGrafx16! POWER UP this amazing card and get that awesome "arcade feel" over and over again! It's so powerful the evil forces of FEKA cannot help but to OBEY!

"I Obeyd time and time again!" - Johnny Turbo
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on April 21, 2013, 07:37:40 AM
TurboG?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on April 21, 2013, 08:21:51 AM
At first I didn't understand no that's the watermark doing that it darkened the bottom portion of the graphic
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 21, 2013, 06:01:01 PM
This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8682528275_6949ededb0.jpg)
If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on May 22, 2013, 03:45:16 AM
This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8682528275_6949ededb0.jpg)
If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.


Whoa!  Where can I get one those slip thingies?  That looks great!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 22, 2013, 04:03:40 AM
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/140/674x5017945526709981354.jpg) (http://img594.imageshack.us/i/674x5017945526709981354.jpg/)


Screw version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/794552/0ac32996c160cc877455b7f81385cec8?li=shortUrl

Peg version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/824005/shell-v3-rev-a.html?li=shortUrl&key=a6adf254ca9a748a4636254bbeb46a6f


 this company does the 3D print service, this was developed by Buffallowing. A custom label can be created and placed on the top.





Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on May 22, 2013, 04:40:29 AM
This looks great!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on May 22, 2013, 06:16:31 AM
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/140/674x5017945526709981354.jpg) (http://img594.imageshack.us/i/674x5017945526709981354.jpg/)


Screw version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/794552/0ac32996c160cc877455b7f81385cec8?li=shortUrl

Peg version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/824005/shell-v3-rev-a.html?li=shortUrl&key=a6adf254ca9a748a4636254bbeb46a6f


 this company does the 3D print service, this was developed by Buffallowing. A custom label can be created and placed on the top.








I would like to get a couple of these. So have any one here ordered these from the link you provided??
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on May 22, 2013, 06:35:50 AM
Those are nice, I'd love to see a group buy for 'em.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 22, 2013, 07:00:19 AM
I can see if there is a bulk discount. No one to my knowledge has tested here but I have seen positive feedback on Assembler forum.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 22, 2013, 07:14:10 AM
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?42373-Custom-Turbo-Everdrive-Shell/page6


Here is the thread I found it:




Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: whisper2053 on May 22, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
That...

That is absolutely lovely. Something like that would spruce up my nekkid TED quite nicely :D
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on May 22, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
Alright I went ahead and ordered one of those. It will ship by June 3rd, the site said. I'll report back when I get it. Hopefully I'll be smart enough to take pics as I install it. The white version is the cheapest at $22 or so. The black version is the most expensive at $28.50. Since I have a US TurboGrafx I got the black version. Also, I'm pretty stupid with my money. But original PCE owners should opt for the white version. I didn't notice any CoreGrafx or Duo grey colors.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 22, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
Did you get post or screw version?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on May 22, 2013, 04:34:34 PM
This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8682528275_6949ededb0.jpg)
If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.


Love it!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on May 22, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
Did you get post or screw version?


Post. Can't be sure if I have the correct screws lyin' around.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on May 22, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Cool youll just need some hot glue to secure it properly
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 04, 2013, 10:59:37 AM
OK I got mine in today. Check my post when I ordered it, do the math and there you have your processing and shipping time. I ordered the peg version but they sent me the screw version because they are retards. No pegs anywhere and no clue what screws to buy. I imagine I can still use a few drops of superglue to fasten it, though. At least they sent the correct color.

Anyway, here it is:
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/3dprint2.jpg)
Overall the thing does not feel like plastic. I wish it did. Instead it feels grainy and not smooth. Basically after you run your finger over it you want to check your finger and rub off the sand, but none is there. I have no idea how strong it is and am afraid to try and find out.

In the Turbo:
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/3dprint1.jpg)
The unit fits well on the Turbo Everdrive. However it does not come without some caveats. You can no longer reset the card by feeling for the button with your thumb or finger. You now have to use your fingernail to press it down. Same goes with the MiroSD card. It will insert and remove but you need fingernails. The switch on the side to choose between a US and JP console is inaccessible without a toothpick, but I imagine this won't be an issue for too many people.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Black Tiger on June 04, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
Looks like a chocolate/mint cookie inside of a TG-16. :P
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on June 04, 2013, 12:08:57 PM
So does it come in black or do you have to paint it yourself ?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: RoyVegas on June 04, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
So does it come in black or do you have to paint it yourself ?

Look up 7 posts.. lol

The white version is the cheapest at $22 or so. The black version is the most expensive at $28.50. Since I have a US TurboGrafx I got the black version. Also, I'm pretty stupid with my money. But original PCE owners should opt for the white version. I didn't notice any CoreGrafx or Duo grey colors.

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on June 04, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
And it's not black LOL
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: spenoza on June 04, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
It was probably printed using a 3D printer. The lower-cost ones do not generate smooth plastic but rather rough plastic. Should prove durable enough, though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on June 04, 2013, 01:42:18 PM
Not liking the fact that the buttons and switches aren't easy to access now.  That should have been a consideration, I would think, before offering them up for sale.  That is just my opinion though, as I have no idea what goes into making something like this.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 04, 2013, 04:03:50 PM
And it's not black LOL


It's black. It's just not the exact same black as the Turbo.

Here's the thing after I printed out my own label for it:

(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/turboed.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on June 04, 2013, 04:09:07 PM
Sweet!!! Looks awesome. It didn't look black in your earlier picture.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 04, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
Joe I believe you can sand those down - right now most 3D printed items come out pretty rough. Also are you stocking with the screw version? I can find the source for the screws that fit. Otherwise try hot glue.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 04, 2013, 06:26:04 PM
If you can find the screws, that'd be cool. I think they need to not have heads because they go in from the bottom of the Turbo ED.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on June 04, 2013, 08:02:36 PM
I just got mine.

(http://www.seymoronion.com/Miku_Photos/it_is_hat.gif)

Now I gotta get a TED...  #-o
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on June 04, 2013, 08:13:34 PM
Here's the thing after I printed out my own label for it:

http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/turboed.jpg


Hahaha. Nice touch! ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esadajr on June 05, 2013, 03:40:04 AM
both look cool. For some reason I'm ok with just using the barebones TED, specially with a Duo system.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 05, 2013, 03:04:24 PM
Is the white version smooth?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: SeymorOnion on June 05, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
Is the white version smooth?
It feels kinda rough/grainy on the top, but the sides feel smooth.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: turbokon on June 06, 2013, 05:19:40 AM
I went ahead and ordered one.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 06, 2013, 07:53:14 PM

Joe here is the info

Quote

 If you want to order your own I got them from McMaster.com part number 92010A001 and the description is..

Metric 18-8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips Machine Screw, M2 Size, 4MM Length, .4MM Pitch, Packs of 100




Quote from: BuffaloWing
I think forum member "effowe" got his M2x5mm from McMasterCarr.com based on the GIF he posted (http://) (he posted the M2x4mm version). Might want to confirm with him via PM. He mentioned he has extras. If you are able to source the metric screws elsewhere, just make sure it's no longer than 5mm long otherwise you will pierce through the shell. I personally prefer 4mm length to be safe. Also use a bead reamer like the one I discuss with him on the thread (http://). He actually did a better job (http://) than I did.




If you can find the screws, that'd be cool. I think they need to not have heads because they go in from the bottom of the Turbo ED.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 07, 2013, 08:16:19 AM
No, those won't work. They have angled heads and will stick out of the bottom of the card a few millimeters which is, of course, unacceptable.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 07, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
The board needs slight modding and they work
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 07, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
You need a reamer
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 07, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
A few dabs of super glue is working fine.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 07, 2013, 12:20:47 PM
Coolio
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 25, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1703/fm06.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/fm06.jpg/)




(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5559/yxky.jpg) (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/yxky.jpg/)

got mine
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 25, 2013, 07:56:30 PM
How does it feel? Smooth as PCE plastic?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: FiftyQuid on June 26, 2013, 03:08:38 AM
I definitely like the white better than the black.  Maybe because it appears smoother?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on June 26, 2013, 03:25:23 AM
I got this color with intention to paint it does feel grainy. There is a polished version available
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Official Ninja on August 15, 2013, 07:23:39 AM
Is anyone aware of a USA seller that has the Turbo Everdrive in stock?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Flare65 on August 15, 2013, 07:56:48 AM
I'd like to get in on this and that one for the NES & Genesis.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 15, 2013, 12:11:22 PM
Go for it.  These carts are top notch.  I have this one, the NES,SNES, and N64 EverDrives.  I love em!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: PunkicCyborg on August 15, 2013, 03:08:39 PM
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1703/fm06.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/fm06.jpg/)




(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5559/yxky.jpg) (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/yxky.jpg/)

got mine

Needs the red logo like original pce :D
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 15, 2013, 06:49:19 PM
At the risk of coming off like a self-promoting douche, I posted a review of the Turbo Everdrive on YouTube.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Bernie on August 16, 2013, 02:47:41 AM
At the risk of coming off like a self-promoting douche, I posted a review of the Turbo Everdrive on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/LJ5oeOy2X-I


Excellent! 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on August 16, 2013, 05:21:27 AM
At the risk of coming off like a self-promoting douche, I posted a review of the Turbo Everdrive on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/LJ5oeOy2X-I


Excellent! 


Totally excellent!  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png) as a result, I started watching his other videos, too.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: bob on August 16, 2013, 06:52:16 AM
Very nice vid.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 16, 2013, 07:16:30 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on August 18, 2013, 02:44:17 PM
Yeah, very nicely made video! What video editing/making software did you use to create it ?? That's what I need, I still don't know what to use to make a decent video like that with some basic effects as you did.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 18, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
I started using Final Cut Pro with, I believe episode 7 which was the golf roundup.  Prior to that I was using iMovie.  If you're using PC instead of Mac, then I hear that Sony Vegas is very good.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 19, 2013, 06:28:24 AM
Just saw it Jibba nice video! And I just saw the N8 review! :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 19, 2013, 09:58:25 AM
You're using Final Cut Pro X, I recognize the transitions (I think they're also in iMovie). Sucks that FCPX can't capture video game footage. You have to use Quicktime, Final Cut Pro 7 or something else.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 19, 2013, 10:43:48 AM
You're using Final Cut Pro X, I recognize the transitions (I think they're also in iMovie). Sucks that FCPX can't capture video game footage. You have to use Quicktime, Final Cut Pro 7 or something else.

Not sure how I would capture video game footage with FCP, anyway.  I run my consoles though a Micomsoft  RGB -> s-video converter, which passes the s-video on to a DVD recorder which I have set on the highest quality (1 hour) setting.  I rip the DVD with MPEG Stream Clip on my computer, and import the DV into FCP. It's nice because then I can hang on to the DVDs for possible future use.  Because of the amount of space that DV takes up, I only save the exported masters of my videos on my computer.  The raw footage and FCP projects all go to the trash.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Official Ninja on August 23, 2013, 12:49:04 AM
For those in the US looking for a Turbo Everdrive, they seem to be in stock again at Stone Age Gamer. My brother and I each ordered one last night.

As a side note I had ordered a MD Everdrive from Retrogate in Europe and the same brother ordered a Turbo Everdrive from them.
My multicart showed up in the mail three weeks later but his never arrived. It seems to have died in customs. It has been 5 weeks now, I think. When he contacted Retrogate the seller did not seem too concerned about it. That really sucks and is frustrating. Who knows though it may eventually show up. I once ordered a cable for the Apple 2 computer from eastern Europe and after two month it didn't show up. Seller refunded me and made a claim with the post office. A month later it was on my porch....

Anyway, I have some questions about how the Turbo Everdrive works. The roms on the SD card do they need to be patched for region or does it not matter. Just like loading roms in MagicEngine?

Also my PCE-Duo-r has a region switch installed. Will this have any effect on using the Turbo Everdrive?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Official Ninja on August 23, 2013, 03:43:16 AM
The Krikzz site is back up. It was down last night when I went looking for answers to my questions above.
http://krikzz.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=57
The site has a link to this review that explains its all. :)
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?41652-Review-Turbo-Everdrive-English
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on August 23, 2013, 04:37:22 AM
Retrogate is solid, the shipping may take a while but he stands by his product and if there are issues my experience is he will take care of it.

And no a region switch won't affect the functionality of the everdrive. There is a region switch built into the device as well.

Erik

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ApolloBoy on August 23, 2013, 05:28:56 AM
And no a region switch won't affect the functionality of the everdrive.
Krikzz put out a warning on the Everdrive forums about using it on a system with a chip-based region mod though:
Quote from: KRIKzz
Mods with IC buffer may work only in read mode and obstruct all outputs from data bus. Also, region modded systems sometimes may hangs randomly. I would not use turbo-ed with region modded system, unstable bus be an cause of some random operations, it may destroy everdrive bios
Mine works perfectly fine on both my region modded Duo-R and TG-16 though, both of which use the Obey chip.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Official Ninja on August 24, 2013, 04:08:14 AM
Retrogate is solid, the shipping may take a while but he stands by his product and if there are issues my experience is he will take care of it.

And no a region switch won't affect the functionality of the everdrive. There is a region switch built into the device as well.

Erik



thanks for the info. I look forward to getting the everdrive. My current multicart is an older 32mb printer port version. Works good but doesn't fit too much.

about retrogate, we didn't get the impression he was too concerned  but IMO its still too early to worry. International packages sometimes get held up. Just so happens that my order placed the same night has been delivered for a week already.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Official Ninja on August 27, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
Got my Turbo Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer. Love it. It is really tight in the slot of my Duo-r and Turbo Express. Is that normal? Any worry of it damaging the slot?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: ApolloBoy on August 27, 2013, 07:14:44 AM
It's normal, the Turbo Everdrive is a little thicker than most HuCards so that's to be expected.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: c0ldb33r on September 01, 2013, 03:50:49 AM
I got my TE last week and love it.

I don't have any type of case for it. I plan to use it solely in my PCE Duo , which has that folding flap that covers hucards. Is there any reason to get a case if I use it in this way? It should be protected sufficiently right?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: Duo_R on September 01, 2013, 05:24:18 AM
Yeah it's fine get a PCMCIA case off eBay for storing and your fine
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: c0ldb33r on September 15, 2013, 06:30:53 AM
I got a shell for my Turbo Everdrive.

I found them at the assembler games forum (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?42373-Custom-Turbo-Everdrive-Shell). The user BuffaloWing made a 3D printed one and listed it for sale using a company called shapeways.

I attached it to the TE using a very small amount of clear caulk and it's rock solid!

The micro SD slot, region switch and reset switch all work perfectly :)

Pro: it's awesome
Con: it's expensive, at about $20. Also I got dinged with $13 in duty charges on top of that!  :roll:

My wife is going to make me a sticker which I'll use as a label for the top of it.

(https://s6.postimg.cc/r1kaz4pgd/photo.jpg) (https://s6.postimg.cc/tt3kpqnz1/photo_1.jpg) (https://s6.postimg.cc/p8heat49p/photo_2.jpg)

edit: pictures on how to adhere it to the TE can be seen here (http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?42373-Custom-Turbo-Everdrive-Shell/page7). His is a little different as mine has posts which go into the screw holes. His doesn't, so mine probably fits a little better.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: MotherGunner on September 17, 2013, 06:59:38 AM
Does anyone know if the standard ED fits flush in an armless Keith Courage case?

Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on October 06, 2013, 02:19:42 AM
Does anyone know if the standard ED fits flush in an armless Keith Courage case?




Send me an ED and I'll let you know.  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on October 06, 2013, 03:36:31 AM
Does anyone know if the standard ED fits flush in an armless Keith Courage case?

An armless KC case is the same as basically any other huey case, right? It fits fine even with a manual.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: esteban on October 06, 2013, 05:51:02 AM
Does anyone know if the standard ED fits flush in an armless Keith Courage case?


An armless KC case is the same as basically any other huey case, right? It fits fine even with a manual.


Correct  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: jperryss on April 17, 2014, 12:54:53 AM
Has anyone come across any games (US or JP) that are incompatible with the TED? Or is there a list somewhere? I've yet to find one that wouldn't run. Quite impressive.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release
Post by: NightWolve on April 17, 2014, 02:02:29 AM
It's 100% compatible, even the largest HuCard, "Street Fighter II: CE" will work which can't be said of other flash-carts. If you do got a ROM file that doesn't work, it's because of the header bytes and what not, something a proper patching of the file can fix.