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Title: shit Gaijin never say
Post by: Nando on June 21, 2012, 08:15:39 AM
for you expats, in the land of the rising PCE
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 22, 2012, 04:41:28 PM
Am embrassed nao :oops:
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Post by: RegalSin on June 22, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
I don't get it. It is just a bunch of milk fed european people, trying to make another biased standard.
All that crap they say, doesn't matter. Without comic books, Japan would probably be another thailand, or worst another hong kong. Without comic books, Japan would have been absorbed into China right now. The biggest thing in Japan would be civil rights.
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Post by: PunkicCyborg on June 23, 2012, 03:18:28 AM
I don't get it. It is just a bunch of milk fed european people, trying to make another biased standard.
All that crap they say, doesn't matter. Without comic books, Japan would probably be another thailand, or worst another hong kong. Without comic books, Japan would have been absorbed into China right now. The biggest thing in Japan would be civil rights.
hitting the bong early on a saturday morning?
Title: Re: shit Gaijin never say
Post by: Nando on June 23, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
I don't get it. It is just a bunch of milk fed european people, trying to make another biased standard.
All that crap they say, doesn't matter. Without comic books, Japan would probably be another thailand, or worst another hong kong. Without comic books, Japan would have been absorbed into China right now. The biggest thing in Japan would be civil rights.
I do remember using my first non western styled bathroom in Yokohama. My first reaction...Aaahh f*ck! Sigh. And 1 and 2 and 3 and squat..and relax...sigh..
*shakes head damn barbarian that I am. ;)
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Post by: termis on June 23, 2012, 09:40:04 AM
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Post by: Joe Redifer on June 24, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
But seriously though, how does one crap in a Japanese toilet? What's the difference between that and a bidet? I can only assume you squat but that could get very uncomfortable if you're constipated. Are you supposed to squat when you pee, too? Do the Japanese have better, more satisfying shits because of this?
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 24, 2012, 04:16:10 PM
(http://www.naturesplatform.com/images/sitting vs squatting.gif)
(http://www.mikesblender.com/how to use japanese toilet.jpg)
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on June 24, 2012, 08:08:42 PM
Yeah, all the schools I worked in and a lot of other places only had squatty potties. Yeah it's supposed to be better for your body and all that but i always ended up getting a horrible leg cramp afterword.
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 24, 2012, 09:24:40 PM
I don't really think it is better or healthier. The only advantage I can see so far is, that you do not get in direct contact with the toilet/seat (as far you do everything the right way).
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Post by: termis on June 25, 2012, 12:30:00 AM
But seriously though, how does one crap in a Japanese toilet? What's the difference between that and a bidet? I can only assume you squat but that could get very uncomfortable if you're constipated. Are you supposed to squat when you pee, too? Do the Japanese have better, more satisfying shits because of this?
Bidets are used to wash your ass when you're done blasting shit all over the place. You're not supposed to pee / crap in them.
It's basically a waterfountain + soap for your ass.
It's also more sanitary than what we do here in USA, which is wipe / smear shit around our ass cracks until it's not going to leave a streak in our underwear.
My question is, how do handicapped people use Japantoilets? You can't squat if you're gimpy.
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Post by: termis on June 25, 2012, 03:16:52 AM
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Post by: Joe Redifer on June 25, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
Or the elderly. Not everyone will retain maximum squatting power until they die. I guess on a western toilet if you want to mimic squatting (for the rectum advantages) you could lean a bit forward.
So do Japanese people crap in bidets when they encounter them, thinking they are a toilet?
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 25, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Now at least the title fits.
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Post by: termis on June 25, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
Or the elderly. Not everyone will retain maximum squatting power until they die. I guess on a western toilet if you want to mimic squatting (for the rectum advantages) you could lean a bit forward.
Yeah, but if you've been squatting your entire life, squatting is not such a big deal - even for the elderly their leg muscles are very used to it to the point that they can stay squatting for a long, long time...
This is similar to how lot of Japanese folks - even the elderly ones, can stay in "seiza" position without any issues for the whole time while eating, having a discussion with you, etc... While I could never *comfortably* stay in that position - not even for 10 seconds (I can tolerate it for a couple excruciating minutes...)
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on June 25, 2012, 05:38:46 PM
Yeah, you'll notice a lot of older folks squatting when they rest (farmers and the like). I think if you are used to it it becomes a natural position for you.
As for seiza, I don't know how you get used to it, really... I played Japanese music for years and you have to sit in seiza for hours at a time, and it was always so painful. Even the older ladies complained from time to time. It's actually a great way to sit as far as your back goes, and helps you have perfect posture for singing, playing, etc., but it just murders your legs.
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Post by: DrBread on June 25, 2012, 05:49:52 PM
This entire thread is hilarious!
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Post by: Arkhan on June 26, 2012, 03:59:22 AM
So do Japanese people crap in bidets when they encounter them, thinking they are a toilet?
No. They have bidets in Japan, IIRC from the stories my friend who is from Japan tells me.
Plus when you look at a bidet, you can kinda tell its not for poopin' since there is no where for the poop to go.
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Post by: Joe Redifer on June 26, 2012, 10:17:41 AM
I just Google bidet (second time using Google EVAR) and it they seem to look like western toilets now. I recall them being very low, squattable things kind of like Japanese toilets.
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Post by: PunkicCyborg on June 26, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
When I was visiting friends in Bulgaria I had to use some crazy toilets like at the beach that were just holes in the ground. And you had to pay some old lady to use it and pay for TP
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Post by: Joe Redifer on June 26, 2012, 06:46:43 PM
I would supply a steaming pile near her feet as payment.
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Post by: SamIAm on June 27, 2012, 03:04:57 AM
On the squatting toilets:
I think I saw a picture once illustrating how a long time ago, when Japanese were basically shitting in a hole cut in planks of wood laid over a large pit, there would be a rope hanging down from the ceiling. When the time came, you'd grip the rope and your arms would hold your weight, rather than your legs. That makes things much more workable for the elderly and disabled.
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Post by: Tatsujin on June 27, 2012, 03:08:21 AM
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Post by: esteban on July 04, 2012, 02:14:18 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
I squat all the time now, even at home. The weirdest part, for me, was "facing forward" (penis/vagina towards flush handle). Once I got used to that, however, I never looked back.
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Post by: Chuplayer on July 04, 2012, 02:59:58 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
I squat all the time now, even at home. The weirdest part, for me, was "facing forward" (penis/vagina towards flush handle). Once I got used to that, however, I never looked back.
Well for me I'd rather have a slightly unsanitary ass than risk slipping off a toilet seat, plunging my shoe/foot/leg into shitty toilet water and possibly knock some of my teeth out on the metal hardware. Plus, it's my ass. It's not like I am licking the toilet seat or anything. I don't even bother to use one of those ass-gaskets unless it's a REALLY nasty bathroom, like at a gas station toilet near a bus stop downtown.
Title: Re: shit Gaijin never say
Post by: Nando on July 04, 2012, 08:18:42 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
I squat all the time now, even at home. The weirdest part, for me, was "facing forward" (penis/vagina towards flush handle). Once I got used to that, however, I never looked back.
Well for me I'd rather have a slightly unsanitary ass than risk slipping off a toilet seat, plunging my shoe/foot/leg into shitty toilet water and possibly knock some of my teeth out on the metal hardware. Plus, it's my ass. It's not like I am licking the toilet seat or anything. I don't even bother to use one of those ass-gaskets unless it's a REALLY nasty bathroom, like at a gas station toilet near a bus stop downtown.
I hear you. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
That said, once you squat and squirt, you never go back.
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Post by: kazekirifx on July 04, 2012, 03:16:25 PM
Oh yeah. I finally watched this the other day.
I'm a gaijin, and I do say a couple of those things. 1. I like natto. 2. I laugh at Japanese manzai and other comedy.
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Post by: Tatsujin on July 04, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
I'm a gaijin, and I really do like natto.
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Post by: SamIAm on July 04, 2012, 04:35:08 PM
You know what would have been the clever thing to put in that video?
Japanese guy: "Can you eat natto?"
Gaijin: "What an interesting question! Nobody has ever asked me that before!"
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Post by: Tatsujin on July 04, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
:lol:
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on July 04, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
Yeah, it's weird because natto is really tasty and a pretty benign food compared to some of the stuff commonly eaten in Japan like jellyfish, raw chicken, horumon (literally "throw away parts" or guts), etc. Raw chicken is really good by the way, but I'm not a fan of jellyfish or horumon.
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Post by: Tatsujin on July 04, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
I can't stand/eat 99% of the hormon stuff. I mostly pass, when they decide to go to such places.
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on July 05, 2012, 04:45:45 AM
Yeah I don't mind the flavor but the texture is what gets me. Just too chewy/fatty. I'd rather have a good piece of meat instead, but luckily most horumon places have stuff like that as well.
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Post by: kazekirifx on July 05, 2012, 01:35:07 PM
I can enjoy a few pieces of horumon as long as I have a huge frosty jokki of namabiiru. I never quite know how much I'm supposed to chew horumon before swallowing though. It's like a game. "Hmm... Have I chewed this enough to wash this down with some beer without requiring the Heimlich maneuver?"
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Post by: Samurai Ghost on July 05, 2012, 01:40:12 PM
Yeah it's like a piece of meat-flavored gum. Which I can see the appeal of, but I'd rather have the meat!
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Post by: geise on July 06, 2012, 02:00:15 AM
Haha! I wonder if I would starve in Japan?
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Post by: Ji-L87 on July 06, 2012, 02:12:00 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
2-3 layers of toilet paper on top, wasteful, but I can sit and shit in some level of comfort knowing that my ass cheeks aren't absorbing the sweat of the last person's ass cheeks that sat, shat, and sweat there. ;)
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Post by: Tatsujin on July 14, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
2-3 layers of toilet paper on top, wasteful, but I can sit and shit in some level of comfort knowing that my ass cheeks aren't absorbing the sweat of last person's ass cheeks that sat, shat, and sweat there. ;)
WORD!!
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Post by: SamIAm on July 14, 2012, 08:45:48 PM
Jesus Christ,
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Post by: storino03 on July 15, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
Unless you are constantly licking your buttocks or have your children eat off your cheeks, I don't think anyone would care if there is more bacteria (down there) than people in Japan who don't touch a damn toilet seat/lid.
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Post by: NightWolve on July 16, 2012, 06:57:31 PM
Jesus Christ, save us George Carlin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo&feature=player_detailpage#t=20s)
Well, good to know for when he was around, anybody that ever shook his hand has to wonder... Heh. "THAT'S RIGHT GERMOPHOBE! I just took a great big ole stinky shit and I didn't wash or wipe a damn thing! *holds out his right hand* Put her there, nice to meetcha!"
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Post by: tggodfrey on July 17, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
eh, the purpose of squatting is not sanitary, its to avoid relaxing and taking your sweet time reading the paper or better yet, falling asleep on the shitter at work.
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Post by: esteban on July 18, 2012, 09:48:41 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
2-3 layers of toilet paper on top, wasteful, but I can sit and shit in some level of comfort knowing that my ass cheeks aren't absorbing the sweat of last person's ass cheeks that sat, shat, and sweat there. ;)
WORD!!
Sanitary Theatre.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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Post by: Nando on July 20, 2012, 04:42:51 AM
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Post by: guyjin on July 20, 2012, 11:24:38 AM
3 tales of the toilet!
First time I encountered a bidet was in Spain. I had to pee REAL bad and entered the bathroom; the lid was down so I started peeing in the convenient urinal next to it. I then saw the sink-like handles on the bidet and panicked. I did not pee everywhere, but I did leave that bathroom looking rather sheepish.
Second tale of the toilet was in Japan. Was staying with my host family and used the bathroom. I saw a bunch of buttons on the wall next to me, and being a compulsive button pusher, I threw caution to the wind and pushed the big red one. SURPRISE ASS-SPRAY! I figure it's on a timer and wait for it to finish. and wait. and wait... I start pushing other buttons, labeled in moon language, to no avail. Eventually, I get the darn thing to stop. My ass was so clean it squeaked.
Finally, my only encounter with squat toilets in Japan went surprisingly well, though fortunately all I had to do was #1. However, I tried to do it like a urinal and stood full upright. There was splashing. to avoid dirtying myself I moved my legs apart until I looked like an inverted Y. Seemed to work.
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Post by: Tatsujin on July 20, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
Nice tales bro.
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Post by: esteban on July 20, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
First time I encountered a bidet was in Spain. I had to pee REAL bad and entered the bathroom; the lid was down so I started peeing in the convenient urinal next to it. I then saw the sink-like handles on the bidet and panicked. I did not pee everywhere, but I did leave that bathroom looking rather sheepish.
Second tale of the toilet was in Japan. Was staying with my host family and used the bathroom. I saw a bunch of buttons on the wall next to me, and being a compulsive button pusher, I threw caution to the wind and pushed the big red one. SURPRISE ASS-SPRAY! I figure it's on a timer and wait for it to finish. and wait. and wait... I start pushing other buttons, labeled in moon language, to no avail. Eventually, I get the darn thing to stop. My ass was so clean it squeaked.
Finally, my only encounter with squat toilets in Japan went surprisingly well, though fortunately all I had to do was #1. However, I tried to do it like a urinal and stood full upright. There was splashing. to avoid dirtying myself I moved my legs apart until I looked like an inverted Y. Seemed to work.
You had me at "inverted Y" (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png).
Holy crap.
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Post by: kazekirifx on July 22, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
All developed nations should have bidets. Anything less is just barbaric.
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Post by: storino03 on July 22, 2012, 05:49:13 PM
All developed nations should have toilets, instead of bidets. Sure, they may be cleaner, but...USA USA USA! :P
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Post by: esteban on July 23, 2012, 05:24:34 AM
I want a bidet. For real.
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Post by: Arkhan on July 23, 2012, 05:34:31 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
2-3 layers of toilet paper on top, wasteful, but I can sit and shit in some level of comfort knowing that my ass cheeks aren't absorbing the sweat of last person's ass cheeks that sat, shat, and sweat there. ;)
WORD!!
Sanitary Theatre.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Yeah, but your "levitation" method carries its own risks. Ever lose balance and, you know, "fall in" so to speak? Not a pretty picture... ;)
EDIT: Oh, pfff, never mind, I wrote it then was like, duh, you still leave the seat down, but what I'm surprised about is you do that at home too! You could buy that special seat that easily disconnects with twist handles so you can take it to the shower and completely wash it down fully with soap rather than just wiping one down that's screwed into place. They cost about $10 bucks more than regular seats. I understand perfectly why you do this with public restrooms, though. Many slobs just urinate with the seats down (on a busy day when the urinals are in use) so sometimes I'll find the seat very wet and I'll have to wipe it dry first before layering it with toilet paper. Then there's upwards splashing when the toilet is flushed as well, so some of that "wet" could be urine and/or water with fecal matter, especially if it was a diarrhea drop, etc... ;) Yeah, they're lots of slobs that just don't lift the seat up to urinate or flush. I hate every minute I'm having to be in a public restroom, honestly.
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Post by: esteban on July 23, 2012, 11:28:10 AM
I am actually shocked that many of you feign ignorance of squatting whilst here in the States/Canada. Have you never used a public restroom? Do you actually allow your tender, clean flesh to touch the lid of Sodom? I don't care if you put wax paper/sanitary tissue on the lid. That's sanitary theatre.
2-3 layers of toilet paper on top, wasteful, but I can sit and shit in some level of comfort knowing that my ass cheeks aren't absorbing the sweat of last person's ass cheeks that sat, shat, and sweat there. ;)
WORD!!
Sanitary Theatre.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Yeah, but your "levitation" method carries its own risks. Ever lose balance and, you know, "fall in" so to speak? Not a pretty picture... ;)
EDIT: Oh, pfff, never mind, I wrote it then was like, duh, you still leave the seat down, but what I'm surprised about is you do that at home too! You could buy that special seat that easily disconnects with twist handles so you can take it to the shower and completely wash it down fully with soap rather than just wiping one down that's screwed into place. They cost about $10 bucks more than regular seats. I understand perfectly why you do this with public restrooms, though. Many slobs just urinate with the seats down (on a busy day when the urinals are in use) so sometimes I'll find the seat very wet and I'll have to wipe it dry first before layering it with toilet paper. Then there's upwards splashing when the toilet is flushed as well, so some of that "wet" could be urine and/or water with fecal matter, especially if it was a diarrhea drop, etc... ;) Yeah, they're lots of slobs that just don't lift the seat up to urinate or flush. I hate every minute I'm having to be in a public restroom, honestly.
Hahahahhaha. I didn't know about the toilet seats that are easily removed for "thorough" washing!
Anyway, since we are on the subject of public restrooms, this might make you feel better:
I went to the beach on Saturday and it was a beautiful day. So beautiful, in fact, that I forgot to bring my sandals to the public restroom. Now, I had to go to the bathroom really bad, so I was forced to STAND ON URINE STAINED FLOORS (yes, patches of fluid were everywhere) whilst I did the deed.
I cringe just thinking about it.
When I finished, I ran to the ocean and ground my feet into the sand. Salt water + exfoliation = relief.
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Post by: NightWolve on July 23, 2012, 11:44:03 AM
Yeah, I used to have one till it broke; it was a soft cushion-based one and eventually the plastic tears as opposed to one made out of solid wood or whatever. But yeah, you just snap it off and take it to the shower tub for a full cleaning - you can't beat that, especially if you had fat, "dirty", sweaty friends over who sat on it... Sounds like the answer to your prayers given your "levitation" method! ;)