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Title: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: GameFreak on June 29, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Can anyone think of a reason why rechargeable AAA batteries might not be good in the pc-engine wireless controller? I have a bunch of duracell rechargeable with different Mah rating and I thought I would make sure its ok before I might potentially destroy my controller. Yeah it's probably a dumb question but I want to be cautious with my collection.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on June 29, 2012, 06:30:28 PM
I can think of none. I use rechargeable batteries in my pc-engine gt with no issue.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Deletion on June 29, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
Don't have any PCE hardware that uses batteries, but I've been using rechargeable AA batteries in my 360 controllers for years. In my experience, they work better than the official 360 rechargeable battery packs.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 29, 2012, 07:44:16 PM
Most rechargeable batteries don't provide enough voltage to run certain appliances.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 01, 2012, 12:16:47 AM
right. NiCa as well NiMh will drop down to 1.2V per sell after a very short time. If a device needs 9V (6x15V), those reg. batts can't provide more than 7.2V, which may be just a little bit too less for some appliances to run flawless.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 01, 2012, 03:23:35 AM
id say always worth trying to run rechargable batteries first. We need to stop abusing the earths resources if we are gonna stick around beyond the next 2-3 decades.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Black Tiger on July 01, 2012, 03:42:38 AM
I never had a problem with battery life when using the PCE wireless pads. Aiming at the receiver was the main issue.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 01, 2012, 03:45:09 AM
Gamefreak wanting to use rechargeables for his wireless controller turned into an environmental rant?  How much coal do you think the power plants would burn through to keep up with rechargeable batteries if everyone had them?  Rechargeable batteries are made of more precious metals that standard ones are, exactly what resources are you saving?
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 01, 2012, 04:14:25 AM
Wasnt aware it was a rant. More like advice on how to stop ruining our future. And the world has other sources to generate electricity than coal powerplants. Also, if you reuse those precious metals, you will use less all together in the long term. Its all about thinking farther than your own nose is long. Im done discussing it further.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: RegalSin on July 01, 2012, 04:16:28 AM
id say always worth trying to run rechargable batteries first. We need to stop abusing the earths resources if we are gonna stick around beyond the next 2-3 decades.

I agree, everybody in this room should be using rechargable batteries. It is a fricken pain in the double, tripple, quardurpo A, to buy a pack of 2 durecells, for $6. ( do not count costco either ) and then see my damn camera, die out in a matter of minutes. The batteries in my stuff usually die out, because I forget to turn them off.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: CPTRAVE on July 01, 2012, 05:32:19 AM
There is no problem in using rechargeable batteries on controllers, "SAVE THE WORLD", please.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 01, 2012, 07:20:03 AM
Don't mind me, i just have my panties in a bunch today. I just thought it was kinda humorous thats all. The guy wanted to know if rechargeables were ok in his controller. The first four comments were spot on and relevant to the point. Then you get, use rechargeables ore the planets gonna blow up in 30 years. 

How did you know my nose is long..........makes me a tad self conscious....
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 01, 2012, 08:03:19 AM
Ok, you pulled me back for one comment since you seemingly loosened up about it. He got more precise answers first, so I figured it was relevant in the sense that rechargable batteries are always relevant to try first and thought i gave a thoughtworthy reason to why. Sure, some cheaper ones are of bad quality and may not be able to sufficiantly power an item, but for the most part they do. Like controllers and similar devices. Even a rechargable battery that runs out of charge quicker than others, is still a better choice to a non rechargable battery for obvious reasons. I run only rechargable batteries from anything like game controllers, tv controllers, flashlights, laser sights and airsoft guns. Its just plain ignorant not to use them when you can. Use a high quality charger and its very efficiant too.

And there are plenty of options to dirty electricity out there if you just look around actively.. Ive ran my apartment on 100% windpower for the past 10 years, and next year i will be able to switch to wave power. It may not be the most relevant addition to the thread elaborating on this, i can agree to that, but if people continue in the tracks we are in now, "use and throw away", we wont be around for much longer. I think that is worth considering while talking about rechargable batteries vs non rechargable. Its as relevant as any other reason to use the forementioned kind.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 01, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
Fair enough :)
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: GameFreak on July 01, 2012, 05:07:09 PM
the AAA ones I have are NiMH and some are 750mAh and some are 1000mAh. Thats probably what I'll test in pce wireless controllers.
 
Yeah I use them for almost everything. Mostly the AA ones. Like someone else said, I use them in my xbox controllers, also...pc mouse, tv remotes, flashlights, wall clock, RC controllers, digi camera, and a few other things. The mAh rating seems to make a big difference in battery life. My AA ones that are 2650mAh last way longer than 1700mAh.

I remember a few years back some device I had (i forget what it was, maybe a camera) said not to use rechargeable batteries, thats what made me question the pce controller compatibility. I'll charge them up and try it tomorrow. Thanks for the input.

I just wanted to save my controller from meltdown, but save the planet comments are always welcome. Not sure if the battery thing will have much overall impact, but you will save lots of money over the years. I know I did.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: GameFreak on July 01, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Oh and the "save the planet" reminded me...I have an AA charger I got at REI many years ago the has a mini solar panel on top of the charger, so you just put it on your windowsill for a charge.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 01, 2012, 06:31:07 PM
My AA ones that are 2650mAh last way longer than 1700mAh.

Exactly! they last about 1.55 times longer.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: soop on July 02, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
One word; Eneloops.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4O4rSy5M8cw/T_GAsOmrTLI/AAAAAAAAA0M/tfLBGOW5ou4/s512/2012-07-02.jpg)

Best batteries I've ever had.  Not only do they hold their charge well when stored, but they last as long as many higher mAh batteries because of their superior power drop-off.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 02, 2012, 12:16:15 AM
eneloops are super. our devices also running on eneloop pawaa :)
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: GameFreak on July 02, 2012, 06:36:55 AM
^Thanks! I'll look into those.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 02, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
the AAA ones I have are NiMH and some are 750mAh and some are 1000mAh. Thats probably what I'll test in pce wireless controllers.
 
Yeah I use them for almost everything. Mostly the AA ones. Like someone else said, I use them in my xbox controllers, also...pc mouse, tv remotes, flashlights, wall clock, RC controllers, digi camera, and a few other things. The mAh rating seems to make a big difference in battery life. My AA ones that are 2650mAh last way longer than 1700mAh.

I remember a few years back some device I had (i forget what it was, maybe a camera) said not to use rechargeable batteries, thats what made me question the pce controller compatibility. I'll charge them up and try it tomorrow. Thanks for the input.

I just wanted to save my controller from meltdown, but save the planet comments are always welcome. Not sure if the battery thing will have much overall impact, but you will save lots of money over the years. I know I did.

Yeah, the higher the mAh, the longer it will last. milliampere per hour. As for overall impact of small things, you would be amazed.... Every little thing helps and as we say in sweden "many, small trickles..." I get upset when i see packaging over packaging in the grocery store. Like a tube of toothpaste in a cartonbox.. wtf...
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Necromancer on July 02, 2012, 12:31:36 PM
Save the earth and use corded controllers...... silly tree-huggers overlooking the easy solutions.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 02, 2012, 12:42:35 PM
Haha. fair enough... But i trip over all the wires if i have to use wires for all my consoles... I need to combine enviromental thinking with personal health issues.. And i like being a silly tree-hugger. More needs to be or we're screwed beyond repair very soon.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Duo_R on July 02, 2012, 01:40:00 PM
Never heard of eneloops... Sounds awesome
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 02, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
play pc engine and save the world :idea:
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: CPTRAVE on July 02, 2012, 04:42:58 PM
I have never seen them around (eneloops)where can we find them?
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: roflmao on July 02, 2012, 05:09:36 PM
I got mine off Amazon.com.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 02, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
Highest i can find is 2500mAh. is their a such thing as 3000mAh or higher for eneloop?
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: CPTRAVE on July 02, 2012, 06:06:01 PM
Currently I use energizer rechargeable batteries and they do not last very long. I used to use the Monster batteries that were great but after 2 years they died. :cry: 
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 02, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
I use mainly batteries (noname or brands like ultrafire) straight from china, i find they work pretty well.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: soop on July 02, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
Highest i can find is 2500mAh. is their a such thing as 3000mAh or higher for eneloop?


Nope, the highest are those black 2500mAh, which is pretty high.  But do some research into them, the white ones are just as good for most things.  The site has some charts showing the power drop off.

And I got mine from Amazon too, after a lot of searching, that was the cheapest I could find.

Here we go: http://www.eneloop.info/products/batteries/eneloop.html
The XX ones only have 500 charge cycles, as opposed to 1500 for regular Eneloops.

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Using the new improved AA-size eneloop, the charging cycles have been increased by 1.5 times. Therefore eneloop tones can be recharged up to 1.500 times. Also the self discharge has been improved. You can store eneloop tones for 3 years and still they will retain 75% of their capacity.

 

In accordance with the Green Power Certification System, the eneloop tones batteries are charged by “green power” from photovoltaic generation. This means that a part of the electric power used for manufacturing eneloop tones (the amount equivalent to that used for factory pre-charging) is generated using clean, renewable solar energy, part of SANYO’s initiative to realize a “Clean Energy Loop,” where power is generated from renewable energy sources, stored for use when needed in batteries, and conserved or used efficiently for power-driven applications. Hence, eneloop tones truly embody the concepts of “energy” and “looping,” from production to performance.


and it sounds silly, but I really would recommend the glitter/tones ones, especially if you have devices that take 2 batteries and you buy two packs.
I bought a load of white ones, and found it hard to keep organised as to which ones were charged and which weren't.  If you put a charged and uncharged into a device, you don't know which is to blame.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: grimm on July 02, 2012, 10:15:51 PM
eneloops do sound interesting, i will have too look into those..
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: xelement5x on July 03, 2012, 07:58:19 AM
I also use eneloops and love them.  I picked up a started pack from Costco initially which was pretty cheap, had a 4 battery charger and a good number of batteries.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 03, 2012, 01:53:19 PM
I bought some engergizer 2500mAh, and i'm not to thrilled with them. While they are rechargeable, there battery life is not as good as a pair of duracells (atleast not in my gt they are not). I hope to buy the eneloops soon. My sister sent me a gift card to newegg for my birthday, and thats most likely what i will do with them.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: roflmao on July 03, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
I bought some engergizer 2500mAh, and i'm not to thrilled with them. While they are rechargeable, there battery life is not as good as a pair of duracells (atleast not in my gt they are not). I hope to buy the eneloops soon. My sister sent me a gift card to newegg for my birthday, and thats most likely what i will do with them.
Yeah, in my experience Eneloops > Duracell > Energizer. 

Unfortunately I bought a ton of Energizer rechargeables before coming to this conclusion....
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: GameFreak on July 03, 2012, 03:20:53 PM
agree. (havent tried eneloops yet but) Energizer suck. thats why i made a point of saying "duracell". you can save a dollar or two buying energizer, but they are worth way less overall. thats true for the non rechargeable also.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: vestcoat on July 03, 2012, 03:48:05 PM
Now you guys have done it - I'm getting ads for batteries at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: esteban on July 03, 2012, 06:03:17 PM
Now you guys have done it - I'm getting ads for batteries at the bottom of the page.

That's better than the rechargeable, handheld massagers that are featured prominently on my screen.

Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 03, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
Yea, after two sets of energizers, i'm gonna switch. I don't hate them, just not impressed overall.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: soop on July 03, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
We had some Energisers from somewhere anyway, and then I spend about £12 on 4 of those super-high mAh Duracells, and they disappointed.  I'd say regular Eneloops last longer than those (in most things anyway, not sure about high power draw devices)
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 03, 2012, 11:27:37 PM
Buy enesoop :)
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: HercTNT on July 04, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
I was at the eneloop site last night looking up details. sanyo does not recommend rapid chargers for the eneloops. However, eneloops apparently have three times the life span of most rechargeables at 1500 cycles as opposed to 500. Sanyo claims they retain 75% of thier stored charge after three years of inactivity. Thats some really impressive stuff. I know my energizers can barly claim that after three weeks and they are new.
Title: Re: rechargeable batteries in wireless controller
Post by: Tatsujin on July 04, 2012, 01:35:40 PM
for eneloops use the enekoop charger :idea: