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Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: supergrafxpcengine2 on December 30, 2005, 11:41:43 AM
In my dreams, Battle Ace is not the bland-looking game that it really is
(http://www.geocities.com/sgextreme/grafx/ba7.jpg)
with worse graphics than many standard PC-Engine HuCard games

but instead, looks rich and vibrant with 'super graphics'  like this

(http://www.arcadeflyers.net/flyers/taito/28023301.jpg)

Galactic Storm by Taito - their knock-off of Sega's Galaxy Force.
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: MotherGunner on December 30, 2005, 02:36:49 PM
NICE!
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: esteban on December 30, 2005, 06:06:49 PM
Wow, that game looks really kool. I've never  seen it  before.

Seriously, why is Battle Ace so lackluster? What a shame...
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Keranu on December 31, 2005, 05:45:43 PM
That game looks rad alright. I thought Battle Ace had awesome graphics personally, especially the scailing for the sprites. Also compare it to Falcon for TG16; though I personally LOVED the pseudo-polygon graphics in Falcon, it's visuals can't even compare to Battle Ace and it's WAY skippier than Battle Ace as well, in which Battle Ace plays oh so smooth.
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Black Tiger on January 03, 2006, 02:24:13 PM
There were a couple of really good Afterburner-style space games for Sega-CD that I picked up cheap, along with pretty much every other decent Sega-CD game, when the system finally went under.

I forget the names, but I beleive both were from the same publisher and one looked like that and I think that it had a similar name.

If only the Supergrafx really got the Mode-7 type effects that were originally announced. :cry:
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Keranu on January 03, 2006, 06:53:21 PM
Mode-7 is cheesy but saves artist cheap time :P .
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: supergrafxpcengine2 on January 06, 2006, 02:39:26 AM
forget "Mode 7"   that was Nintendo's cheap, crappy implementation
 of arcade-quality effects like scaling & rotation for the Super Famicom.

Sega's "Super-Scaler"  technology for arcades in the 1980s,  used in
Space Harrier, OutRun, AfterBurner II, ThunderBlade, Super Monaco GP,
Galaxy Force II and many others - was 'the real deal'    

The SuperGrafx should've had something close to this that, even if not
quite as powerful as Super-Scaler, but better than Nintendo's lame
'Mode 7' -- sadly, the SuperGrafx did not even have effects on par
with Nintendo's crappy 'Mode 7'.
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: GUTS on January 06, 2006, 07:25:27 AM
Black Tiger you're probably thinking of Soul Star and Battle Corps which both used really, really impressive scaling and rotation and were both coded by Core back before they got lazy and started pumping out Tomb Raider shit.  Both of those games really show off the Sega CD's power.
Title: wtf??
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on January 08, 2006, 07:12:21 AM
Quote
forget "Mode 7" that was Nintendo's cheap, crappy implementation
of arcade-quality effects like scaling & rotation for the Super Famicom.

Sega's "Super-Scaler" technology for arcades in the 1980s, used in
Space Harrier, OutRun, AfterBurner II, ThunderBlade, Super Monaco GP,
Galaxy Force II and many others - was 'the real deal'

The SuperGrafx should've had something close to this that, even if not
quite as powerful as Super-Scaler, but better than Nintendo's lame
'Mode 7' -- sadly, the SuperGrafx did not even have effects on par
with Nintendo's crappy 'Mode 7'.


crappy...cheesy...cheap??

Mode-7 rocked!  they added lots to their games(f-Zero,MarioKart,CastlevaniaIV....etc) by using sweet ass mode 7 effects!

dude, why the harsh words?

you want to talk about cheesy, then lets talk about blast processing... hahahaha, what a joke!
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: nodtveidt on January 08, 2006, 07:38:44 AM
Stricly speaking, Mode 7 was one of the SNES's graphical modes. It was the only mode to allow scaling and rotation effects. It irritates the HELL out of me to see people misuse the phrase. :P :lol:

Now blast processing...that was merely marketing hype to try to get an edge on the competition. Humans are simple creatures...they can be swayed on singular elements, such as, in this case, processing speed. Notice how they never bothered to compare their graphical capabilities to the SNES or the TG16? Because they knew that they couldn't compete with either machine in terms of graphics, so they had to sell it based on the CPU speed compared to the SNES (the TG16 processor is slightly faster than the Genesis processor, so they couldn't run a comparison there either). Remember the side-by-side videos they used to push into gaming stores? It was always Genesis vs SNES, showing the fastest Genesis games versus the slowest SNES games. Stupid, stupid marketing coupled with even stupider consumers... :lol:
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Keranu on January 08, 2006, 02:05:55 PM
Haha, good post. :arrow:
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: TR0N on January 08, 2006, 09:26:13 PM
Genesis does what nintendon't ahh gota love when it was Nintendo vs Sega 8)
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Keranu on January 09, 2006, 03:36:44 PM
No, gotta love the Atari VS Intellivision from back in the day. "Here is Atari Tennis. And here is Intellivision Tennis. I find the Intellivision version much more sophisticated."
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Black Tiger on January 12, 2006, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: "Keranu"
No, gotta love the Atari VS Intellivision from back in the day. "Here is Atari Tennis. And here is Intellivision Tennis. I find the Intellivision version much more sophisticated."


Intellivision is much more sophisticated because unlike 'Atari' its intelligent television.
Title: In My Dreams - Battle Ace looks like this
Post by: Keranu on January 12, 2006, 05:44:47 PM
Haha yes, Intelligent Television.