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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: storino03 on July 26, 2012, 02:24:25 PM
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I like collecting sealed games, but I only collect mostly last and current-gen titles, and only certain ones. My total is under 70, last time I checked. In that regard, I would probably be considered more of a newb than someone who is more seasoned.
If you want to see the more obsessed type, go look at:
www.sealedgameheaven.com (http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/)
Some may argue that games should be played instead of kept in plastic and then stored in the basement never seeing any light. I do play the games I have sealed, through other means. I buy the standard editions when they are really cheap. There is almost no point in buying a game at retail release, because in 6 months, they are usually (at the very least) under $30.
I don't even pay full price for the sealed ones because I have a lot of Amazon credit (swagbucks, and other rewards sites--it's easy). For example, Last Story coming out mid August for the Wii, after my gift cards, I only spent $1.51. Kingdom Hearts on the 3DS (Mark of Mastery CE), I only paid under $16 total (for a $55 retail game).
Then there are others in the hobby that also VGA (video game authority) grade their games. Basically you send it off to the company (US-based) and they grade the quality of the seal and then put a number grade to it. It's pointless, pricey, and ridiculous! Unfortunately, others swear by it, for whatever reason.
Your thoughts?
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Invest in land, play video games....
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that made no sense at all. I spend less than some of you guys/gals spend on games each month
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I think it's totally f*cking stupid to the highest degree. I sometimes buy sealed stuff, but it always gets opened.
My opinion of VGA is the same for people who run wedding chapels for dogs or sell $500 audiophile grade power cords. They are evil shit who prey upon the overly monied/stupid.
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I don't do it but to each their own.
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Unless you are buying doubles so you have a investment copy and a play copy, then its probably the dumbest thing ever unless you only care about money and not gaming.
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It's not for me but each to their own.
Personally I don't see the point in spending big dollars on something that never gets used and simply collects dust on a shelf, especially something as trivial as a video game.
I have bought some items that were new/dead stock but I didn't actually seek it out, some systems like the Dreamcast have lots of unsold stock on offer at great prices and I always open and use said item anyhow. I do like new stuff for the fact that it's complete and in pristine condition, but I only buy it if it's cheap and it always get used.
Video games aren't an investment, they will depreciate in value or stop working over time. I spend my video games funds on fun, not for a presumed status in a niche culture.
Re VGA grading, there's a common saying which is highly suitable - "A fool and his money are soon parted". Enough said.
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No one said it was an investment, at least the way I look at it. I think of it as a hobby, something to display, like how people buy action figures, I do this. I don't even look at it as a "stock market investment". Shocking, I know.
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so show us what kind of sealded stuff do you have. just a bunch of sealed useless crap, or really something worth for a showcase display?
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This is a gaming forum. You can't play it if you keep it sealed.
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here's a cool story bro.
once upon a time, teh turdy, teh peey, teh cleany and teh flushy went together on a hiking trip. then the turdy suddenly was attacked and eaten up by a horde of flies. the peey, so sad about this happening wept at the side of turdys remains, until almost nothing from him was left. blessedly cleany and flushy also joined that trip, so cleany could clean up the remains of turdy and peey while flushy could take care about the disposal of cleany. flushy then finished the trip by him alone and he all flushed happily ever after. end of (a true) story.
turdy, peey, cleany and flushy 4ever in our hearts:
(http://paperboxworld.weebly.com/uploads/2/1/7/1/2171472/3456341.jpg)
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Most of it is common stuff like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Mario All-Stars on the wii. And others like Fallout 3 and New Vegas Collector's Editions.
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I have exactly 3 sealed games
Perfect Dark (i've got like 4 copies, and the sealed one was the cheapest for some reason)
Feet of Fury (freebie at MGC, don't care)
Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner 2 LE (I don't have the first game, so i see no reason to play this one. yet.)
that said, i see no point in seeking this shit out.
once i get and beat devil summoner 1, #2 is getting opened and played.
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Feet of Fury is a cool homebrew!
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Feet of Fury is DDR on a system that doesn't have a dance pad, kinda pointless imo
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There was this one:
Official Konami Dance Dance Pad (Dreamcast)
This is the official Dance Dance Revolution Pad from Konami. If you are looking for the name brand item, for your Playstation or Dreamcast dancing needs, this is the pad for you!
----http://www.toysnjoys.com/ddr_accessories.html
Not sure if it worked with the game or not. I don't have a DDR pad for Dreamcast myself.
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hmm, must be japan only- but yeah, i guess you're right.
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Most of it is common stuff like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Mario All-Stars on the wii. And others like Fallout 3 and New Vegas Collector's Editions.
Um...heh, you might as well open those now.
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Why? I already played them. Like I said, if you don't understand the hobby (as I call it), which clearly you don't--it's not about any financial gain. I think of it as a hobby. Something to do besides playing the games. I'm sure you have a hobby of some sort, yes?
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I have all too many hobbies. None of them are predicated upon staring at things in their packaging.
I like cars, I drive them.
I like records, I listen to them.
I like musical equipment/instruments, I play them (badly).
I like Laserdiscs, I watch them.
The only way I would leave a game in its package is if it were a game I hated...but then if I hated it I would never have it in the first place.
As for my previous comment, those games are kind of naff. Them being sealed does nothing except prevent them from being played. Nobody is ever going to want that stuff more than you want it now, so you might as well just open it.
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You seem to think a sealed game = rare/expensive 10-fold. Just because I collect sealed games, doesn't mean they have to be the super rare in monetary value kind. Society and their money. -sigh-
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At what point did I ever mention monetary value?
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"Nobody is ever going to want that stuff more than you want it now, so you might as well just open it."
You're implying that if there is no market (people looking) for the games I have, then there is no point in keeping them sealed. I'm not selling them period regardless if it's desired or not.
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I'm implying that the fact that its sealed is somehow valuable, not necessarily monetarily, to someone such as yourself. You can only open it once, after all. So if you don't feel like opening it, and nobody else wants to open it...WTF good is it? Its just a useless plastic box. I mean, inside is a game, but you can't get inside, so really its not even a game anymore.
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Same reasons that people collect these:
http://www.hallsguide.com/
http://www.hotwheelscollectors.com/news/news.aspx?archive=true&news_id=1009
People collect for fun; a hobby; pastime, you name it. Even no matter if a game I have is "worthless" to the masses.
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Only really good thing about a sealed game is that it's guaranteed to be in top-notch condition when I open it up to play.
Unless it's been, you know, re-sealed.
Collecting sealed copies of games is fine if that game is either rare and worth a lot when you decide to sell it or is special to you in some way and you want to preserve a copy. Or you're a museum. Having sealed games for the purpose of just having them around, seems a bit boring and pointless.
I apologize but I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this hobby :-k It's not like I don't get it at all, but still.
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It's not like I'm collecting Barbie games or Sesame Street sealed. Part of it is sentimental, hence why I only collect certain ones and not a full-blown system or genre. So in that sense, it's not "just to have around". I appreciate the comments though :)
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I have to say I agree with everyone else. If I buy a sealed game, it's going to get opened the minute it comes through the door.
Actually, I did have 2 Wii games, Madworld and MotoGP (one cheap, the other a prize) which were sat on my shelf for a while. I haven't actually played either yet, but I did unwrap them.
I think it's one thing to collect games and take good care of them, but quite another to not even play them. I think it's just an extension of the whole boxed action figures thing, but even more pointless, since it's like really expensive and big picture cards.
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Collecting sealed games is gay....mmkay?
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(http://artiewayne.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/faggots.jpg)
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Lol! Funny shit right there tats!
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Games were meant to be played.
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Sealed games are not for me unless I plan on opening them. I just don't get the point. Seems sort of vain to me.
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Collecting sealed games is just as dumb as collecting the cases for games, but we still do it. If we're just collecting games for the sake of collecting games then all you really need is the hu card, or CD-ROM and the manual. The jewel case and box isn't a requirement, but people still like to have one or both for that 'complete' look. The same goes for collecting the boxes for consoles. They aren't necessary if you're collecting games for the sake of collecting games. Collecting sealed games is just taking it one step further.
Collecting sealed games is not for me, but I collect the cases which is just as obsessive when you consider some of the simple solutions people have on these forums for storing hu cards.
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Wanting the case for your cd or hu game is a completely different scenario. The case actually offers protection and stores nicely on a shelf for organization.
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Collecting sealed games is just as dumb as collecting the cases for games, but we still do it. If we're just collecting games for the sake of collecting games then all you really need is the hu card, or CD-ROM and the manual. The jewel case and box isn't a requirement, but people still like to have one or both for that 'complete' look. The same goes for collecting the boxes for consoles. They aren't necessary if you're collecting games for the sake of collecting games. Collecting sealed games is just taking it one step further.
Collecting sealed games is not for me, but I collect the cases which is just as obsessive when you consider some of the simple solutions people have on these forums for storing hu cards.
ummm no the case has a purpose to store the game properly and safely in between times when you play it. Sealed game collecting is stupid unless you just want to keep them perfect and like new till you play them. If you dont plan on playing them GTFO of our gaming forum.
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What he said!
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Collecting video games is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman. You want to keep her complete, and treat her with care and respect, but if you don't open her up and play with her now and again...
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Collecting sealed games is just as dumb as collecting the cases for games, but we still do it...
I think cases are a different story because that tells me that the game was at least somewhat cared for by previous owner(s).
I don't like buying beat up hueys or scratched CD's because I want to at least "feel" like the game will last a while
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Actually, although the manuals often tell you different, HuCards are indestructable. Even the broken ones.
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Well, what about a gamer who really enjoys a particular game or series?
I have to confess here, but I actually like SNES better than TurboGrafx. "Ducks."
Now, I haven't played any of the Turbo CD games yet, so that preference may change after I do, but the fact that I like SNES better doesn't lessen my liking for TurboGrafx - which is my second-favorite gaming system. It's just a part of my history and gaming experience.
That said, my favorite game of all-time is Lufia II for SNES. I have my gamer's copy that I play as often as I can find some time, but I would like to find a nice, sealed copy that I could display in some nice manner as someone might display a piece of art. Because that's what it is: Video games can be a piece of art. Notice that I said, 'can'. Many video games are simply trash and/or regurgitated pablum, but some do rise to the level of 'art'. What I would like is for this nice, sealed copy (which I do not have and probably will never have) to elicit comments/questions about it from visitors, so that I may then discuss this great game and/or actually pull it out and show them and perhaps increase their desire to acquire and play it. There are 10's of thousands of copies of Lufia II, so my 'removing' one copy from the population shouldn't hurt. I'm not a sealed game collector, but I can see a reason why some might have a couple of their favorites.
Now, for those who collect many sealed games but who don't have play copies of the games, I feel that they're probably more in it for either the investment or for the 'rush' of collecting (think: comic books, baseball cards, etc...), and I can definitely see why gamers don't approve (myself included), but I must say, this is a (relatively) free country with a (relatively) free market, and if someone wants to spend his money freely buying or selling something in a way that displeases you, then why must people be so vocal with their displeasure of the both the buyer and the seller?
Anyway, those are my thoughts about sealed game collecting.
-- waits to be shellacked --
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I love the way you used speech marks instead of asterisks. Makes it seem like a random quotation. I think I'll start using it.
"well you know what they say - "ducks"."
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For every 1 person who collects sealed turbo games, it makes 1 less complete game for someone who wants to PLAY IT :shock: and have a nice copy of the game. I guess I could give a shit if someone wants to do that for ps2, 360, or ps3 that has hundreds of thousands of copies of a game. Now when some "super mega awesome" collector guy has a sealed game from a very niche system and has it sitting on a shelf never be played, it screws over the rest of us that want to.
Now for people who own two copies of games to have one to play and one to display it makes no sense. You say you want it for display purposes then why not just get a complete nice condition, or just buy one new sealed, and still open it? For a cardboard box the shrink wrap can still cause damage to the "precious" box. If you're putting the game on a shelf I really don't see the plastic being that protective. Of course most of you "seald game guys" probably have it all VGA rated and in a see through titanium case anyways. [-(
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I love the way you used speech marks instead of asterisks. Makes it seem like a random quotation. I think I'll start using it.
"well you know what they say - "ducks"."
Thanks for the grammar tip!
While I may have been an English teacher in a former life. I'm not really 'up' on proper forum grammar. If asterisks should be used when indicating an action, then I'll gladly begin using them. (Actually, I believe that this instance of typing an action was my first. I usually stick to words and leave the actions out, but in keeping with the vein of humor which permeates this forum, I felt that my above post warranted it.)
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Play the games....or gtfo of a gaming forum. Pretty simple really. :)
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I love the way you used speech marks instead of asterisks. Makes it seem like a random quotation. I think I'll start using it.
"well you know what they say - "ducks"."
Thanks for the grammar tip!
While I may have been an English teacher in a former life. I'm not really 'up' on proper forum grammar. If asterisks should be used when indicating an action, then I'll gladly begin using them. (Actually, I believe that this instance of typing an action was my first. I usually stick to words and leave the actions out, but in keeping with the vein of humor which permeates this forum, I felt that my above post warranted it.)
Oh don't mind me, there are conventions, sure, I just found it amusing ;)
I know what you meant though, that's the important thing I guess.
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Storino: "What are your thoughts about sealed game collecting?"
Most Everyone Else: "It's dumb."
Storino: "You're wrong! You just don't get it!"
I think sealed game collecting is pretty lame, as is displaying games as artifacts rather than as games.
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Who said I was collecting SEALED Turbo Grafx games? I didn't even put this in a specific forum. My god. If you would have read my earlier messages, I said I collect Gamecube/PS2 era and up. So unless the TG was released 5 years ago, I don't even bother.
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Dude...take me off ignore long enough to read this.... Shut the f*ck up! Any sealed game being collected and not played is dumb. Now you may ignore again. Dumbass.
Edit. I am way out of line here guys.. :(
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Who said I was collecting SEALED Turbo Grafx games? I didn't even put this in a specific forum. My god. If you would have read my earlier messages, I said I collect Gamecube/PS2 era and up. So unless the TG was released 5 years ago, I don't even bother.
Are you retarded? The topic is "What are your thoughts about sealed game collecting?" and not "What are your thoughts about Storino collecting specific sealed games?", so there's nothing wrong with geise making a distinction between different systems and keeping sealed games for 'em.
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I never ignored you LOL. That's the funny part. Anyway, people assume just because I make a topic, that I'm taking away precious Turbo 16/CD copies away from you guys. Do I have to make a disclaimer now?
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There's also a guy on NintendoAge that has I think literally every sealed NES game. That's a huge accomplishment--impossible to do these days, but he probably did it when the system was 'new' and/or being clearanced out.
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I never ignored you LOL. That's the funny part. Anyway, people assume just because I make a topic, that I'm taking away precious Turbo 16/CD copies away from you guys. Do I have to make a disclaimer now?
I guess that answers my question. Show me where someone in this thread has accused specifically you of collecting sealed TG-16 games.
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Look on Page 3. This is a topic about game collecting in general, not necessarily targeted at TG stuff. People just assume since it's on this specific website, "Oh he has to be talking about keeping our beloved sealed in plastic". It's alright for people to assume this or that, but when you say GTFO (which I'm not leaving regardless); did I make any suggestion that I do collect sealed games for the TG?
I swear everything I post in good nature, always turns into these shit storms for no reason at all, except people whining about their console.
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I swear everything I post in good nature, always turns into these shit storms for no reason at all, except people whining about their console.
I have to agree with him here. Since yesterday's debacle, he's been making an effort, and you guys are actually proving one of his initial points (about long time posters out to get newbies).
Not saying you have to agree with him, and in the most part I don't, but at the moment he's being civil, and I think the response is at this point, unreasonable. Bernie, if you can forgive a douchebag like Swiss, I don't see why you can't cut a break to someone who seems pretty decent, just because of a few initial misunderstandings/indescresions whatever. Obviously there's a few people who are generally more... antagonistic by nature, and they're pretty much doing what they normally do. But for a few other people I'm surprised you're still kicking the guy when he's down.
I'll be honest, it was amusing while it was still all kicking off, but now it's a tad lame.
Anyway, it's Friday night, so I'm out for a few beers, you guys should too. And when I get back I want this place tidy, teeth brushed and in bed.
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You right soup... I guess I can let it go.... :(
I do tend to get carried away.....
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I like game collecting.
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Found the NA topic, I think:
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=68145
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Look on Page 3.
The only two mentions of the TG-16 are from Bardoly and geise. The first is about the TG-16 being Bardoly's second favorite console and not directly concerning sealed collecting at all (he's pro sealed collecting anyway); and the second comment doesn't call you out by name or even use a generic 'you', so you're only assuming that it was directed at you.
This is a topic about game collecting in general, not necessarily targeted at TG stuff.
Exactly. Just because geise mentioned Turbob collecting in a thread you started, that doesn't mean he was talking solely about you and your collecting habits.
I swear everything I post in good nature, always turns into these shit storms for no reason at all, except people whining about their console.
It's probably because you take every comment personally, whether it's directed at you or not; plus, some people simply don't like attention whores.
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Thanks Necro! You're the bomb.
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In keeping up with the tradition of the topic, I have found the Youtube user I was talking about earlier (the one that buys multiples of the same game)
http://www.youtube.com/user/HitomiLove/videos
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ummm no the case has a purpose to store the game properly and safely in between times when you play it. Sealed game collecting is stupid unless you just want to keep them perfect and like new till you play them. If you dont plan on playing them GTFO of our gaming forum.
The same argument could be made for the hu card sleeves, but I get your point. The cases give them that extra bit of hard protection. I collect them but it's an aesthetic thing for me, not a protection thing.
Here's a better comparison/analogy. Collecting sealed games is like putting a Bra on your car. You're just saving the game/car for the next person that buys it.
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Dude, I edited my nasty post and sent you a PM. Sorry I lashed out like that. Stressful day at work, too damn hot...and sometimes I just go too damn far. I may not agree with everything, well a lot, of what you post, but I do not have to act like that. My thoughts on any sealed game stay the same though. :)
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Putting a bra on a car! The most useless thing I've ever seen! What is the purpose? So you don't get bugs caught in the bumper/grill? Mud doesn't splash on it?
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Too make the car look better, and protect the paint somewhat.
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Except it doesn't do either. The paint is usually damaged if the thing is left on long enough (a constant amount of rubbing, uneven exposure to sun) and you look like a twat driving around in the thing.
Also, it's aftermarket so...it's nothing at all like shrink wrap.
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Except it doesn't do either. The paint is usually damaged if the thing is left on long enough (a constant amount of rubbing, uneven exposure to sun) and you look like a twat driving around in the thing.
Also, it's aftermarket so...it's nothing at all like shrink wrap.
Yeah, I was going to add that. You certainly get scratching, plus the uneven fade from the sun. So, you either have to leave it on forever to hide that, or repaint the car.
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Look on Page 3.
The only two mentions of the TG-16 are from Bardoly and geise. The first is about the TG-16 being Bardoly's second favorite console and not directly concerning sealed collecting at all (he's pro sealed collecting anyway); and the second comment doesn't call you out by name or even use a generic 'you', so you're only assuming that it was directed at you.
I take umbrage at thy statement! :roll:
I didn't say that I was pro sealed collecting at all.
I actually stated that I don't approve of those who collect sealed games simply for investment or for the 'rush' of ownership.
I also stated that I would like to have one sealed game if possible to display like the work of art that it is, even though I don't think that I'll actually ever get that one game in a sealed condition.
The last thing that I stated in regards to this was that in a free society, why do people feel the need to judge how others spend their own money? This statement does NOT make me pro sealed collecting. It makes me pro freedom.
I do appreciate your reference to me though. Being the attention hound that I am, I was despairing of anyone noticing me. O:)
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The last thing that I stated in regards to this was that in a free society, why do people feel the need to judge how others spend their own money? This statement does NOT make me pro sealed collecting. It makes me pro freedom.
In a free society, we are free to judge anyone and everyone on anything we choose. That's the point of freedom.
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This statement does NOT make me pro sealed collecting. It makes me pro freedom.
Like Samson and Adon, I am pro-tein.
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The last thing that I stated in regards to this was that in a free society, why do people feel the need to judge how others spend their own money? This statement does NOT make me pro sealed collecting. It makes me pro freedom.
In a free society, we are free to judge anyone and everyone on anything we choose. That's the point of freedom.
f*cking A right.
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Right, but just because you are thinking it, does not mean you always have to say it. In a free society we can ask someone what kinda music they like, then tell them they are stupid because we disagree with their choice. Once we get to that point, we are not agreeing to disagree, its just rude. It is possible for others to have an opposite opinion and not be morons. This is chit chat, not fighting street, maybe we are being a tad bit aggressive. I agree with soop that storino has been making an honest effort, and it appears to me he's still in the crosshairs because of previous conversations. You gotta give a guy a chance, things don't change overnight. Bardoly has not done anything to earn any disrespect at all.
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Who said I was collecting SEALED Turbo Grafx games? I didn't even put this in a specific forum. My god. If you would have read my earlier messages, I said I collect Gamecube/PS2 era and up. So unless the TG was released 5 years ago, I don't even bother.
Sorry man, got caught up in the moment and just thinking turbo. I also forgot this was in the chit-chat section. Now I still think sealed game collecting is silly. Niche sealed game collecting is even worse and ruins it for the players.
Buying games to just stare at them is money being thrown away. You can actually do something with it and that's the point. It's a game and it was "made" to be played. Baseball cards were made to be collected. Sure anything can be collected, but it sometimes isn't a great idea. Garbage is a nice example.
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Right, but just because you are thinking it, does not mean you always have to say it. In a free society we can ask someone what kinda music they like, then tell them they are stupid because we disagree with their choice.
I would never ask someone what kind of music they like and then tell them it was stupid. I only tell them its stupid when they are playing it so loud I can't ignore it. If they don't want me explaining to them how shitty their taste in music is then they shouldn't be forcing me to listen to it.
The douche ASKED US what we though about sealed game collecting. We didn't ask him. See the difference?
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I can't argue with your logic sign, your gonna be angry no matter what I say. It seems by your comment you have no interest in giving a guy a chance. Thats up to you.
Hey, do you like sealed games: no, I think its dumb
or
Hey do you like sealed games: no, and your an idiot
see the difference?
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I can't argue with your logic sign, your gonna be angry no matter what I say. It seems by your comment you have no interest in giving a guy a chance. Thats up to you.
Hey, do you like sealed games: no, I think its dumb
or
Hey do you like sealed games: no, and your an idiot
see the difference?
I agree, it's more effective to attack the point than attack the person making the point.
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Thank you, you put that into words better than I did. Thats what I was trying to say. Its not personal for me zeta. I don't hate you, I don't think your an idiot. Actually by and large I agree with most of what you have to say. I just don't understand the negativity and abrasivness all the time.
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It's not like I'm collecting Barbie games or Sesame Street sealed. Part of it is sentimental, hence why I only collect certain ones and not a full-blown system or genre. So in that sense, it's not "just to have around". I appreciate the comments though :)
You said you only collect sealed games from this generation or last. You really have a lot of sentimental feelings for a game that came out six months ago?
You might win the award for Most Emotional Guy of the Year. Big Twilight fan?
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No, it's not sentimental. It's more of a favorite series type of thing. like Tales of games or Final Fantasy. That sort of thing! And no, I'm not a fan of Twilight, but thanks for the effort!
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I don't do it but to each their own.
+1
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Thank you, you put that into words better than I did. Thats what I was trying to say. Its not personal for me zeta. I don't hate you, I don't think your an idiot. Actually by and large I agree with most of what you have to say. I just don't understand the negativity and abrasivness all the time.
Totally. Zeta is quite abrasive, but the fact is, I agree with 90% of what he posts, so it doesn't really affect me. I think that's pretty much all I have to say on that matter because that's not really the point, but I think Paul summed it up nicely.
Sure anything can be collected, but it sometimes isn't a great idea. Garbage is a nice example.
hahah, my friend moved house a bunch of times as a student, until finally, when he got his place with his girlfriend, they finally had time to unpack everything. Along with some of the stuff he'd carried from house to house in binbags, he found 2 bags of 4 year old trash :D