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Title: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 23, 2012, 01:55:54 AM
I understand the attitude era was a great time in 'the sport' but trying to relive this now with storylines revolving around sex scandals or he's sleeping with who, and she's cheating on him with them are not what was great about the time period. The 1996-2001 "Attitude Era" was great for the redefinition of Pro Wrestling. The nWo, Steve Austin, The Rock, Goldberg, "Crow Style" Sting, and the whole 'we don't give a f*ck' attitude of DX and ECW was what was great about those days.
Austin Aeries told Hulk Hogan that Brooke Hogan is sleeping with Bully Ray Vickie Guererro found footage of John Cena and AJ Lee allegedly being intimate. and then earlier this year AJ Styles had an annoying storyline with random footage and pics of him supposedly cheating on his wife.
I understand some jokingly call Pro Wrestling a Man's Soap Opera but why do the writers take this literal?
I think I'm just going to grab my copies of Battle Royale and Fire Pro 3 on Monday nights and just make up my own storylines on Notebook paper like I did when I was a kid.
I think Sumo Master is pissed cause he found his hot blonde manager lady sleeping with Spitfire Spike again!! Let the WAY BEGIN!!
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: soop on November 23, 2012, 02:11:31 AM
Coincidentally, yesterday I went through some Wikipedia entries yesterday of BITD superstars, starting with Ric Flair, then, Andre the Giant, Ultimate Warrior, Him "hacksaw" Duggan, etc etc, and many more. good times.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: Emerald Rocker on November 23, 2012, 02:39:52 AM
There are a lot of non-soap things that are currently going on / have been going on in today's wrestling (Storm vs Roode rivalry, Aces & Eights, etc). Wouldn't let soap-ish stuff ruin it for me, especially since some of it -- like the AJ thing -- was an obvious load of bull meant to establish the bad guys as fools who will say or do anything to try to get ahead, kind of like a wrestling version of Team Rocket or Bulk & Skull, etc.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 23, 2012, 03:18:08 AM
There are a lot of non-soap things that are currently going on / have been going on in today's wrestling (Storm vs Roode rivalry, Aces & Eights, etc). Wouldn't let soap-ish stuff ruin it for me, especially since some of it -- like the AJ thing -- was an obvious load of bull meant to establish the bad guys as fools who will say or do anything to try to get ahead, kind of like a wrestling version of Team Rocket or Bulk & Skull, etc.
Ok, I totally can get into the Team Rocket = Daniels/ Kazarian thing. Mind blown! :)
Personally I loved the Roode/Storm feud and was a bit sad that it didn't wind up with the two of them wrestling for the belt at BFG in Oct. Storm finally was able to beat Roode in a hell of a battle, but now they had Storm get tricked into giving up his #1 contendership to Roode. Maybe this will end with Roode regaining the belt from Hardy?
I think TNA in general is headed in the right direction with the younger guys from Gut Check being integrated to the regular roster now. Lots of potential in those guys and gal. :)
I would just rather the shows be more action, wit, and feuding as opposed to "Who's sleeping with who - E Hollywood story" stuff. :)
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: GohanX on November 23, 2012, 03:44:28 AM
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: TheClash603 on November 23, 2012, 05:16:26 AM
La Parka > Anything in Wrestling Today
I still watch when I am free Monday night and I got out for the big PPVs, but WWE has not matched the WCW and likely never will.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 23, 2012, 08:07:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Xz7sb.jpg)
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 24, 2012, 03:31:03 AM
It's amazing to me that anyone would look back at "the attitude era" as being good in any way, but I guess things have deteriated so badly that maybe they were great by comparison.
I don't know. What I do know is that American wrestling is, for some reason, the most respected in the world, and certainly the highest paying, it is pure SHIT compared to Mexican and Japanese stuff and has been for 20 years. Identical looking ripped dudes in black shorts talking into mics for 45 minutes of every hour trying to "shock" with saucy content is no substitute for actual athleticism. The shit is garbage.
For about a year TNA was actually really impressive, but they eventually succeeded in what they aparently always wanted: to be just like WWE.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: psychobear on November 24, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
I agree with SignofZeta, my uncle will work with Mexican wrestlers a lot, he was trainer and looking back at some of his old tapes the he would keep, Mexican and Japanese wrestling is way different then American wrestling , just pure figthing and action and these people will actually hold grudges against each other personally and out the ring that even when they would be out and about they will not get along with each other.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 24, 2012, 11:35:29 PM
It's amazing to me that anyone would look back at "the attitude era" as being good in any way, but I guess things have deteriated so badly that maybe they were great by comparison.
I guess I look at 'the attitude era' as a time when professional wrestling, at least in the states, was sort of re-imagined. The ECW style of hardcore mixed with more adult/ comedy themed storylines had me interested. It was better than the PG "New Generation" of WWF from 1993-1996 and what currently is being produced by the WWE.
I don't know. What I do know is that American wrestling is, for some reason, the most respected in the world, and certainly the highest paying, it is pure SHIT compared to Mexican and Japanese stuff and has been for 20 years.
I wouldn't say most respected, and I'm not sure how one can classify a style of wrestling by where it's located, outside of Wrestling in Mexico as that is pure awesome high flying action almost in every match. But, just saying USA wrestling is shit and Japanese Wrestling is awesome is not completely correct. I've been following New Japan Pro for a long time and always catch the biggest PPV of the year "Wrestle Kingdom" in January and I'd have to say that they push just as much storyline as the American shows do. Their PPVs showcase the pure wrestling talent for sure, but the weekly shows are often just as 'chatty' as WWE. They even showcase many former TNA and WWE wrestlers like MVP or Tyson Tomko now. Also, are you aware of groups like ROH, Dragon Gate, or Chikara? These could be more of what you're looking for, are located in the USA and often put their shows for free to stream/watch on their websites. ROH is sort of like an action first ECW without the crazy drama storylines. Dragon Gate is Japanese themed wrestling in the states. and Chikara is probably the fastest wrestling I've ever seen live. ROH actually has an upcoming show (http://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/2012/dec/16/final-battle-2012-nyc) in December that will feature Jerry Lynn in his last match, one that I'm really looking forward to. Also, you can check out a quick 10 minute weekly show of some of the best stuff Chikara does on youtube. A show podcast/show that I absolutely enjoy. You should check out Chikara agogo. (http://www.youtube.com/user/RealWiggly?feature=watch) Maybe check those out and see what you think. :)
Identical looking ripped dudes in black shorts talking into mics for 45 minutes of every hour trying to "shock" with saucy content is no substitute for actual athleticism. The shit is garbage.
100% agree. I'm so sick of every guy being produced by American wrestling having the same look and wrestling style. I bet if guys like Dusty Rhodes and Mick Foley came to Titan Towers looking for work in 2012 that Vince McMahon would say "You don't have the look we're after! Get out of here!".... It's sad really.
For about a year TNA was actually really impressive, but they eventually succeeded in what they aparently always wanted: to be just like WWE.
TNA had something going with the different style ring and they pushed the x-division guys pretty hard back when they were just getting started, but they started to lose that when they brought in too many storyline writers and not enough pure wrestling for each show... I would agree that they are trying to be more like WWE with their storylines and the people that they push (Jeff Hardy, RVD, Bully Ray (All ex-WWF Wrestlers)), but I will give them credit for at least trying. I mean, TNA's biggest PPV of the year was headlined with an Indy style/X-division guy wrestling a motivated and equally talented Jeff Hardy for the world title. It was a great match!
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 25, 2012, 06:31:03 AM
I guess when I classify "American" wrestling I'm going by what I see on TV, and the same with the Japan stuff. If there is really great American stuff (which I wouldn't doubt, I'm absolutely not an expert on this at all) then its a lot harder to find than Raw.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: futureman2000 on November 25, 2012, 07:00:50 AM
Favorite handle from counter-strike days was "Haxor Jim Duggan"
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on November 25, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
I liked the old FMW, IWA Deathmatch, and All Japan stuff along with ECW before 2000. Every now and then on really slow days I will still scour youtube for old Vader or Muta matches from Japan I had not seen before, just for the f*ck of it.
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Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: Arkhan on November 25, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 25, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
I liked the old FMW, IWA Deathmatch, and All Japan stuff along with ECW before 2000. Every now and then on really slow days I will still scour youtube for old Vader or Muta matches from Japan I had not seen before, just for the f*ck of it.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmK8mt4QWBg
Speaking of Vader I actually did enjoy his RAW Return a couple months ago:
Actually looks pretty good for an old guy :)
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 27, 2012, 06:05:56 AM
I found a few links for Ring Ka King. A new show/ promotion that started earlier this year in India. It's mostly just TNA guys under different gimmicks/ persona's, but it is pretty damn interesting.
Most of the episodes are available here: http://www.tnasylum.com/2012/02/watch-ring-ka-king-on-tnasylum-now.html
however, i found a few links that don't work....
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on March 12, 2013, 03:58:02 AM
His last words live on Monday night Raw- "Every mans heart one day beats its final beat. His lungs breathe its final breath. And if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the bodies of others; If it makes them believe deeper in something larger than life; than his essence, his spirit, will be immortalized."
:(
Title: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: esteban on April 09, 2014, 12:53:28 AM
I am not a wrestling fan, but even I am saddened by this. I can't deny that it is weird when folks like this pass away—he was a part of my life. Not by choice, perhaps, but there he is.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: bob on April 09, 2014, 02:01:21 AM
i am very sad about UW passing. BIG part of my childhood. i am no longer a wrestling fan AT ALL, but i have very fond memories of retro WWF.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: TR0N on April 09, 2014, 08:15:23 PM
RIP the Ultimate warrior yeah i use to watch his matches during the 80's and 90's.Definitely a comic book character that came to life :wink: Hmm what's the deal with veteran wrestler passing away as of late it's rather depressing :( BTW before i forget.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on April 10, 2014, 04:29:28 AM
Warriors last match from 2008. By far not his best, but it was still impressive seeing him able to do what he was even as recent as 5 years ago.
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: TheClash603 on April 10, 2014, 07:22:35 AM
Ironic he said the words he did and just received the accolades, then he went down the way he did. It's too bad these guys all go so young, I guess that is the price of the business.
P.S.: 21-1
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on August 05, 2015, 02:50:22 AM
SCHMECHRO POST!!
But figured I would share-
http://www.gofundme.com/helpjerrylynn
Jerry Lynn is in need of some cash assistance to get a medical procedure done. He's been a fantastic worker that spent most of his TV time on ECW, Ring of Honor and in TNA during it's early years (2002-2006). This is slightly personal to me, as a tiny show back in 2001 I had the pleasure of working with him in the ring. He gave me advice and was genuinely one of the nicest guys I've ever talked to about 'rasslin'.
Anyway, thought I would share for those that still follow the "sport" or used to. :)
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on August 05, 2015, 02:52:23 AM
RIP ~ Legends: Dusty Rhodes and HOT ROD Roddy Piper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKZ-W5pUXE
https://youtu.be/VBMTYUjuuMg
Title: Re: For pro rasslin' fans
Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 05, 2015, 03:02:12 AM
Initially I read "Pro rasslin' fans" but then realized I was actually thinking of Foxy Boxing.