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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: jelloslug on November 26, 2012, 08:29:30 AM
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I have been contemplating modeling up the HUcard tray and clip and seeing what it would cost to have them tooled up to make some new ones. I would appreciate some feedback on whether people would even be interested in them and what they would be willing to pay. I know most people (myself included) just get a few extra copies TV Sports Football or World Class Baseball and use those but they will not be plentiful forever.
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There is actually a guy looking into that now. :) https://www.seymoronion.com/index.html Really cool guy to deal with too.
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I'd love 'em! Any style would be great, but I'd prefer the latter PCE huey type that fits in standard jewel cases to the US huey type, and even less preferable is the clipless PCE type.
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There is actually a guy looking into that now. :) https://www.seymoronion.com/index.html Really cool guy to deal with too.
I am in disagreement with his current plan, and wish he'd consider skipping his interim step of a modified CD case. Quick explanation, he wants to make a CD tray style insert for a standard CD case, which has an instruction style clasp to hold the HuCard. Then, he wants to move into full reproduction of the original style of cases.
Essentially, you need to have a TON of cases made to make it cost effective. Thus, by promising original style cases, he is reducing the amount of people who will pay for these non-original-style cases, leaving him with a massive unsold quantity, which reduces his capital to spend on the original style (OS), reducing the chance of OS cases ever being made. Then, if or when he gets the capital to make OS cases, the NOS cases will never sell. Why buy a NOS case when OS cases are available?
Don't get me wrong, he is an awesome dude, and I love his hucard sleeves. I just wish he'd consider the fault of starting with a case that is overall less important to the turbografx community.
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There is actually a guy looking into that now. :) https://www.seymoronion.com/index.html Really cool guy to deal with too.
I have seen that (I have even bought his great sleeves) but I prefer the real TG-16 style case with the clip. The PCE/Keith Courage style would be a little cheaper but if I am going to bother with it I want to go all the way and have the correct style made.
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I'd be down for some. I'm still reluctant to cannibalize my TV Sports games for some reason. I think you would find a lot of people on here that would buy say a half dozen or more, but I can't speak as to how cost effective that will be for you.
I am sure if you did a BiN on ebay w/ some, similar to what Seymor does w/ his sleeves you would be able to move some there too.
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I think you wouldn't have a problem selling them.. I would pick up a good amount..
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I decided to go ahead and make a solid model of the back case; I'll do the clip tonight. I can then find out how much it will cost to tool the pieces up. The piece price will be cheap even at lower volumes, it's the tooling that will be expensive.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/back case front.JPG)
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/back case rear.JPG)
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Wow that looks good!!
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What did you use to model that in? Any chance the files will be available ?
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This looks AWESOME, however I must admit, the Sparky labels would go on WAY smoother if the hollow parts on the bottom weren't there.
Either way, I plan to buy a ton of these if you make them!
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What did you use to model that in? Any chance the files will be available ?
Solidworks. If I don't go through with the project I'll post them.
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This looks AWESOME, however I must admit, the Sparky labels would go on WAY smoother if the hollow parts on the bottom weren't there.
Either way, I plan to buy a ton of these if you make them!
I have though about modifying the case a bit but you can't really just fill that in solid. I could redesign it so there is a separate piece that snaps over the hollow section but that's just another part to tool up.
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Very nice !
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If you decide to make these, would you make extra clips as well to replace those that are broken in our old cases?
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If you decide to make these, would you make extra clips as well to replace those that are broken in our old cases?
I don't see why not.
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As far as you've gotten already, you seem to have experience in this, which gives me hope of this happening!
I'd be curious to know what you've done before, and what you've manufactured.
Nice model, btw.
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As far as you've gotten already, you seem to have experience in this, which gives me hope of this happening!
I'd be curious to know what you've done before, and what you've manufactured.
Nice model, btw.
I'm an engineer; I make lots of stuff. :mrgreen:
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If you decide to make these, would you make extra clips as well to replace those that are broken in our old cases?
I don't see why not.
At this rate you could even have an alternate style clip for the thincker HuCards. Just a thought for later down the road. Man I am actually excited to see these....
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Consider this post my pre-order for a minimum of 30 complete OS cases. If you make clips available I'll take at least a dozen of those as well.
Looks excellent. I would recommend making them unique in some way. An imprint on the back with your initials, or "reproduction" in small font. I'm sure that could even be part of the tooling. It would keep the scammers from using these as originals.
@DK - I was unaware that Seymor was planning on doing NOS and then OS cases. You might want to contact him with your reasoning as it is sound. Maybe even point him here. Perhaps we could get some sort of partnership going.
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I would totally buy some cases.
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Consider this post my pre-order for a minimum of 30 complete OS cases. If you make clips available I'll take at least a dozen of those as well.
Looks excellent. I would recommend making them unique in some way. An imprint on the back with your initials, or "reproduction" in small font. I'm sure that could even be part of the tooling. It would keep the scammers from using these as originals.
@DK - I was unaware that Seymor was planning on doing NOS and then OS cases. You might want to contact him with your reasoning as it is sound. Maybe even point him here. Perhaps we could get some sort of partnership going.
I was thinking about putting a little logo or something in an inconspicuous spot. Maybe under the spot where the game goes or on the angled section inside the case.
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I did the model for the clip tonight. If my calculations are correct the clip should fit new cases and original cases too. Here are the two parts assembled:
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/back case assy.jpg)
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looks great! what is your goal for a price point on these?
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Thats awesome, yup I'm getting some. Let us know when we can order them.
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@DK - I was unaware that Seymor was planning on doing NOS and then OS cases. You might want to contact him with your reasoning as it is sound. Maybe even point him here. Perhaps we could get some sort of partnership going.
I sorta tried, here.
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12403.msg241895#msg241895
Note his bottom line. Now, I really didn't want to get in his face about it. He's an awesome dude, and doing a service to the community, which is why I didn't push it.
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Yeah, I remember reading that thread in it's entirety. I just didn't remember reading it the way you wrote it here.
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looks great! what is your goal for a price point on these?
As cheap as possible. I know that the average "cheap game" can be bought for about $5 so I want to get much lower than than. Once I get some quotes for the tooling I will know more. I fully expect that the tooling will be very expensive and quite possible cost prohibitive so I do have a "back-up" plan that might work also.
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Wow Jelloslug, your model looks great. If these become reality, you'd be doing the community an incredible service! Unfortunately I'm too late because I was very lucky to find a seller who sold me a couple dozen clip cases (from sports games) for $2 each, but these would have been ideal. I hope these see the light - there is definitely a need for them.
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Hello, ABCard cases.
lol. No more CD cases with the thingies clipped out.
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Hello, ABCard cases.
lol. No more CD cases with the thingies clipped out.
Yes, YES to Arkhan you listen!
(http://www-stat.ucdavis.edu/~wang/yoda_013.JPG)
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As cheap as possible. I know that the average "cheap game" can be bought for about $5 so I want to get much lower than than. Once I get some quotes for the tooling I will know more. I fully expect that the tooling will be very expensive and quite possible cost prohibitive so I do have a "back-up" plan that might work also.
Cheaper is better, but if you can't get a great deal, don't sacrifice the project. Even at $5, many of us would prefer to buy repros over destroying original stickers. Also, tracking down $5 games that still have cases and undamaged clips is a time-consuming pain in the butt and competition is increasing. I'd gladly pay to buy something in bulk.
Also, if possible, please consider jewel case compatibility. A lot of modern jewel case doors don't fit snugly on TG cases.
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Cheaper is better, but if you can't get a great deal, don't sacrifice the project. Even at $5, many of us would prefer to buy repros over destroying original stickers. Also, tracking down $5 games that still have cases and undamaged clips is a time-consuming pain in the butt and competition is increasing. I'd gladly pay to buy something in bulk.
Also, if possible, please consider jewel case compatibility. A lot of modern jewel case doors don't fit snugly on TG cases.
That's another thing I'm working on. I'm trying to find GOOD jewel case doors that are the same thickness as the original cases. I have yet to find a replacement jewel case that is as heavy as an original case, the best I have found so far are Memorex cases but they are still nowhere near what the old ones are. They fit fine in the hinge area but are still noticeably thinner overall than an OEM one.
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Cheers to this! I don't really need any but I'd be happy to buy some as well to support the critical mass needed for the project.
I spent a long time working on the numbers for making replacement SegaCD/Saturn cases but due to the size of them and costs for molds and even getting a workable model to start with I had to abandon it as well.
Best of luck and if you need to do a community initiative/pre-order/fundraiser for this to get the upfront costs for molds please don't be shy to ask before abandoning it. For those who don't know, the costs for plastic injection molds and even the setup of an existing mold is very expensive.
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I'm getting quotes in for the parts and the tooling and it's still looking good.
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Oh man, new sleeves and cases. I am so up for this. I hope this happens.
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Cheaper is better, but if you can't get a great deal, don't sacrifice the project. Even at $5, many of us would prefer to buy repros over destroying original stickers. Also, tracking down $5 games that still have cases and undamaged clips is a time-consuming pain in the butt and competition is increasing. I'd gladly pay to buy something in bulk.
Also, if possible, please consider jewel case compatibility. A lot of modern jewel case doors don't fit snugly on TG cases.
That's another thing I'm working on. I'm trying to find GOOD jewel case doors that are the same thickness as the original cases. I have yet to find a replacement jewel case that is as heavy as an original case, the best I have found so far are Memorex cases but they are still nowhere near what the old ones are. They fit fine in the hinge area but are still noticeably thinner overall than an OEM one.
Have you looked into bulk retailers? Such as:
http://www.highsmith.com/CD-Jewel-Case-Replacement-Parts-Tray-c_21708251/
http://www.tapeonline.com/case-components
Making your design around one of these seems like the best bet for everyone, since you could order bulk of these and include them. I'd certainly pay you extra to not have to deal with finding a match. (Maybe you've already found a source for memorex lids, and I'm being totally redundant and unhelpful.)
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Have you looked into bulk retailers? Such as:
http://www.highsmith.com/CD-Jewel-Case-Replacement-Parts-Tray-c_21708251/
http://www.tapeonline.com/case-components
Making your design around one of these seems like the best bet for everyone, since you could order bulk of these and include them. I'd certainly pay you extra to not have to deal with finding a match. (Maybe you've already found a source for memorex lids, and I'm being totally redundant and unhelpful.)
I have found a bulk seller with decent lids but they still are not as think as the older ones. I found an article that explained that the industry went front 100 gram cases to 68 gram cases some time ago so the older style may not even be made at all anymore.
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I don't think you will find the thick ones since almost everyone is cutting cost on stuff so company's can save money
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Any update on this?
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Any update on this?
All the quotes are in, I'm having 3D printed prototypes made to verify the models, and I'm sending samples of the back case and clip to the molding company I picked so they can verify materials and color.
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I'm so damn excited about this project. :D
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I'm so damn excited about this project. :D
The rapid prototypes are due to be printed by the 24th.
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I would like to be a tester haha!!!
Can't wait to see them!!
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Bad ass
What was the average quote you got?
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Awesome, Hope you can make this a reality on the large scale! Will you be able to upload photos of the 3D-printed prototypes? Also is the plastic going to match the OEM plastic? (not sure what kind the orginal was)
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Awesome, Hope you can make this a reality on the large scale! Will you be able to upload photos of the 3D-printed prototypes? Also is the plastic going to match the OEM plastic? (not sure what kind the orginal was)
There will pics of the prototypes. The plastic for the finished goods should match the originals as closely as possible.
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Dammit, you make it look easy! I can't wait for you to take my money!
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Two cents: I don't want the new trays to be BORING OLD CHARCOAL GRAY like the originals. I want the new cases to be BLACK or in GORGEOUS TECHNICOLOR like they should have been from the start: CHERRY RED, CANARY YELLOW, ORANGE ORANGE, OCEAN BLUE, MOSS GREEN, et cetera here we come!!!
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Red would be awesome for the red label games and Black would be awesome for the black label games!
Blue would be best for Deep Blue!
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Red would be awesome for the red label games and Black would be awesome for the black label games!
Blue would be best for Deep Blue!
TRUTH (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcds.png)
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Two cents: I don't want the new trays to be BORING OLD CHARCOAL GRAY like the originals. I want the new cases to be BLACK or in GORGEOUS TECHNICOLOR like they should have been from the start: CHERRY RED, CANARY YELLOW, ORANGE ORANGE, OCEAN BLUE, MOSS GREEN, et cetera here we come!!!
I have given that some though and I don't see why I could not have different colored ones once the molds are made. The first run will be the standard color and if the demand is there I could make different colors later. The biggest problem is that I would most likely have to buy thousands of them in any given color before the costs would be low enough to be worth it unless people want to pay $10 or $15 per case for colored ones. This is the kind of feedback that I need though, so keep it coming!
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well you can buy used cases now from cheaper games for 5.00-7.00 shipped with a game like World class baseball. You would need to compete with that.
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well you can buy used cases now from cheaper games for 5.00-7.00 shipped with a game like World class baseball. You would need to compete with that.
The standard color ones will be cheaper than a used case. Special colors would most likely be more, I will have to get that quoted to find out though.
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Perhaps for colors you could do a pre-order type deal or interest check, where they only get ordered if you have enough pre-sales. Along these lines perhaps a more visible campain could help raise funds - e.g. kickstarter, indie go-go.
I agree colors would be AWESOME though. 8) (also pcefx forum stamped ones, lol) Those slim colored cd cases sell like hot cakes.
Also Just my thought: I work with a company that makes custom plastic items for us, So my question is, when you say thousands do you mean like 1-3 thousand or more like 15 thousand? Becuase sometimes to get a break they won't really budge till 10 thousand. Just thinking if the average person on the forum get around 10 - 20 and 100 - 200 people order here than you only have a few to left to sell out of color if runs are smaller. But if you need to get tens of thousands, I'm not sure there would ever be enough sales, and you might have to sit on them a while.
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Perhaps for colors you could do a pre-order type deal or interest check, where they only get ordered if you have enough pre-sales. Along these lines perhaps a more visible campain could help raise funds - e.g. kickstarter, indie go-go.
I agree colors would be AWESOME though. 8) (also pcefx forum stamped ones, lol) Those slim colored cd cases sell like hot cakes.
Also Just my thought: I work with a company that makes custom plastic items for us, So my question is, when you say thousands do you mean like 1-3 thousand or more like 15 thousand? Becuase sometimes to get a break they won't really budge till 10 thousand. Just thinking if the average person on the forum get around 10 - 20 and 100 - 200 people order here than you only have a few to left to sell out of color if runs are smaller. But if you need to get tens of thousands, I'm not sure there would ever be enough sales, and you might have to sit on them a while.
I working with a company that specializes in small runs of injection molded parts (as low as 50 pieces). My quotes for the standard cases are for 2500, 5000, and 10000. My first run will most likey be for 5000 cases and 5500 of the clips. Once I get the molds finished and get the first run of parts I will start looking at making variations. I imagine that I have to pay a setup charge for each color but I might be able to get a volume if I order a larger total number all at once. This is all speculation though and I won't know until I get a quote. I want to make it clear though that I do want to make variations but until I recover the cost of the tooling I can't afford to order a bunch of different styles. If there was a large enough demand for variations I could do a pre-sale though as any sales will help pay for the tooling. That would be something I would explore after the first run.
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ahh seems logical. Anyway here's to hoping the qoute is decent enough for you to order the first run :pray:
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This is a bit off-topic, but are you able to make an identical replacement gear for the TG-CD? Many of these units have suffered from broken teeth and an exact copy/replacement has yet to be found.
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Count me in if it comes down to all of us here helping you out by sending you some donation$ for the cost of mass production! Very excited to see the end results! GREAT WORK !!
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This is a bit off-topic, but are you able to make an identical replacement gear for the TG-CD? Many of these units have suffered from broken teeth and an exact copy/replacement has yet to be found.
I can do that.
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This is a bit off-topic, but are you able to make an identical replacement gear for the TG-CD? Many of these units have suffered from broken teeth and an exact copy/replacement has yet to be found.
I can do that.
I would like to see that too.
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This is a bit off-topic, but are you able to make an identical replacement gear for the TG-CD? Many of these units have suffered from broken teeth and an exact copy/replacement has yet to be found.
I was thinking a good service to the community would be replacement duo-doors.
(http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/bmcdanold/Video%2520Game%2520Stuff/hudoor1.jpg)
I don't particularly need one, but there are probably a good 100 duos out there that could use one. At that low of a run, you'd probably have to charge an arm and a leg, however.
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I don't particularly need one, but there are probably a good 100 duos out there that could use one. At that low of a run, you'd probably have to charge an arm and a leg, however.
I can see them easily being $80 to $100 at that quantity. I could probably rapid prototype them for much less.
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outta curiousity, becuase I do need 1, and since you seem to have a bit of knowledege. I was actually going to try to get this done myself, from an online services, How much to you'd think it's cost me to have someone 3D print me a door?
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outta curiousity, becuase I do need 1, and since you seem to have a bit of knowledege. I was actually going to try to get this done myself, from an online services, How much to you'd think it's cost me to have someone 3D print me a door?
It would cost you about $30 or so to have someone model it and then the part would cost about $30 to $50 or so to be printed. You would also have to paint it because the printed part would not match the Duo.
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If someone wants to let me borrow a Duo card door I can model it and get a quote for having them printed.
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If someone wants to let me borrow a Duo card door I can model it and get a quote for having them printed.
If the price is as high as you quote, perhaps the best is the old fashion way of making a silicon mold, and then just making a run of 50ish... The silicon mold method apparently falls apart easy, but they'd be on the order of $10, instead of 50.
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Thanks for the info! :) I am/was working on getting the model, having engineering friends and acess to software is helpful, But i have no experience with the printing side of things. (other then the interwebs).
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The 3-D printed prototypes came in today. Remember that these are prototypes and do not represent the final surface finish or color. Here is what a $160 TG-16 game case looks like.....
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 1.JPG)
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 2.JPG)
Back case inside.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 3.JPG)
Clip posts.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 4.JPG)
Back of case.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 5.JPG)
The stripe is the raised lip where the label stops.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 6.JPG)
A close-up of the hinge area. If you look at the top right edge you can see the ridges on the hinge side.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype back case 7.JPG)
Ridges on the hinge side.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype card clip 1.JPG)
Top of the card clip.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype card clip 2.JPG)
Bottom of the card clip.
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype assy 1.JPG)
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype assy 2.JPG)
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Prototype assy 3.JPG)
Case with new clip and lid with a game. There was an error in the prototype: The overall width is off just a little. When I did the model I offset the end of the case the wrong direction and ended up a bit short. This also pushed some of the features on the sides of the case to the wrong location so the holes on the sides that latch the lid shut don't line up with the bumps on the lid. It will only take a few minutes to fix the model but if this was an injection molded part it would have been big trouble. I'm glad I did the prototype....
(http://jelloslug.com/TG-16/Old case new clip.JPG)
The new clips also fit the old case just fine (they may need a drip of glue like the OE ones need from time to time).
I'm painting the prototype so it's easier to see the detail. I'm going to have another prototype made after I correct the errors and if everything is OK I can go to press with it.
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Looks great! Thank you for all the leg work you put into this whether or not your actually able to bring them here. Look foward to this project being complete.
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Can not wait! :)
Looks great!
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HOT DAMN ON RYE!
That looks quite nice, indeed. Dragon Spirit!
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YEE HAA!
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Wow, that looks good keep us updated. :P
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Just think of how many poor games you've saved from losing their homes. You should be damn proud, they look amazing!
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:pray: Please, oh please let these all pan out. I sooooo wanna buy some new cases. Thank you so much for doing this.
Side Note: This whole process has me completely intrigued. I'd be very interested in working with you for a replacement gear for the TG-CD.
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Wonderful!
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On another note: I still have not decided what to do about the lids. I have come to the conclusion that the thicker old style lids are just not made anymore. I have found decent quality thinner lids but obviously they are not free. Would people prefer to purchase just the back case and clip or would you rather buy a complete case with a modern, thinner lid?
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I think people will be just happy with the trays, the lids are not that important, but great work can't wait for this!!
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I think people will be just happy with the trays, the lids are not that important, but great work can't wait for this!!
I agree with this. Lids, while not as common place, are still available. The trays and clips are impossible to buy, and the only way to replace one is to bastardize another game.
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I also agree. I have plenty of CD jewel cases laying around. I just need the turbob trays.
Chris
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Another vote for "HuCARD tray" as the most important item.
Assume folks want tray-only...you can always offer lids later, if there is a demand. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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Lookin' sweet! If you can buy the lids in bulk at a discount, it might not be a bad idea to offer 'em (at least as an option); I'd rather give you the bit extra over bulk pricing than some joe blow.
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The difference in price between buying 50 empty jewel cases and buying 5000 empty jewel cases is very small. I might buy some just to have them available but I think I'll just stick to the case and clip. I will also be selling the clips separately for those that have cases with broken clips. This morning I got a chance to check my model and found no errors. The problem with the printed part was from the printing company, not me.
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Next up: replacement DUO HuCARD slot covers.
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Next up: replacement DUO HuCARD slot covers.
Some one loan me one and I'll model it.
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On another note: I still have not decided what to do about the lids. I have come to the conclusion that the thicker old style lids are just not made anymore. I have found decent quality thinner lids but obviously they are not free. Would people prefer to purchase just the back case and clip or would you rather buy a complete case with a modern, thinner lid?
The back cases are just fine, do not worry about the lids.
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Lookin' sweet! If you can buy the lids in bulk at a discount, it might not be a bad idea to offer 'em (at least as an option); I'd rather give you the bit extra over bulk pricing than some joe blow.
I agree with Necromancer. If the cost is pretty small, go ahead and get lids.
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Any new info
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Any new info
Still working on it. I have decided to try a much less costly approach (but still the same quality and much more versatile) to the project. I should have some results shortly.
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Still working on it. I have decided to try a much less costly approach (but still the same quality and much more versatile) to the project. I should have some results shortly.
Biggest tease ever. :D
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Great work jello... Wow
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Can't wait to hear more soon :)
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well, i'll be buying a few of these, any clue how you're planning on selling them?
ebay?
here?
your own website?
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well, i'll be buying a few of these, any clue how you're planning on selling them?
ebay?
here?
your own website?
yes
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If this pans out, will people be able to buy the amount they need or will they be required to buy in bulk like Sparky stickers?
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If this pans out, will people be able to buy the amount they need or will they be required to buy in bulk like Sparky stickers?
I will probably sell them like the way the reproduction sleeves are sold.
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That's marvelous, nice work! I wish that someday we could get replacement long boxes for Sega CD, Saturn and the earlier Playstation releases.
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I'm a little late to the party on this, but just wanted to say... WOW! These look amazing! I really hope this gets done. The thought of buying replacement cases and clips is making me drool!
Awesome work, jelloslug!
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Great work. I'm really looking forwing to buy a few. No need to handicap common games anymore :pray:
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Any update on the cases?
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This money is burning a hole in my pocket. It wants to be sent to you jelloslug.
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I am throwing money at my screen but nothing is happening :(
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Damnit... people keep responding to this post and I'm getting email responses to it. Then, all excited there may be an update from Jelloslug I race to the computer to check... and it's just you guys ](*,)
Where are you Jelloslug?
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I'm still waiting on the new 5 axis mill to show up here at work so I can make the molds.
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This is awesome news, and a great relief.
I would like to buy Five Thousand of your American OEM Style HuCard Cases (after they become available) after I start getting a good return on my Nintendo and Sega Cases.
That'll probably be in late summer, or autumn.
I'll contact you through this forum, or your website (once it's up) when I have the $.
As for the thin lids, it doesn't matter to me if you include them or not, but they would, at the very least, help protect the clear clip during shipping,
and make the trays easier to bundle together. :wink:
Although, it'll probably wind up being a lot cheaper to get some paperboard/cardstock boxes made for them.
It doesn't have to be very thick or rigid (Bubble Wrap and/or Peanuts should provide adequate protection against compression);
it mostly needs to protect against Sideways/Twisting Motions from whatever else is in the shipping box with it.
If you need help raising funds, and don't want to manage every aspect of that yourself, you should check out CrowdTilt.
CrowdTilt allows you to use it for pre-orders.
Kickstarter has a very restrictive "Rewards" system, you can't use it to do pre-orders.
If you haven't already, you might want to announce your HuCard Cases, and Website's URL, over at TheCoverProject.net (http://www.thecoverproject.net/) when you are ready to start Crowdfunding, and/or ready to start selling them.
EDITED TO ADD:
If you'd like, I can add links that point to your online store, on the pages, on my website, where I have placeholders for the HuCard Trays.
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I'm down to order a bunch of these when they become available. That's some excellent work there and a big service to the community.
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This is awesome news, and a great relief.
I would like to buy Five Thousand of your American OEM Style HuCard Cases (after they become available) after I start getting a good return on my Nintendo and Sega Cases.
That'll probably be in late summer, or autumn.
I'll contact you through this forum, or your website (once it's up) when I have the $.
As for the thin lids, it doesn't matter to me if you include them or not, but they would, at the very least, help protect the clear clip during shipping,
and make the trays easier to bundle together. :wink:
Although, it'll probably wind up being a lot cheaper to get some paperboard/cardstock boxes made for them.
It doesn't have to be very thick or rigid (Bubble Wrap and/or Peanuts should provide adequate protection against compression);
it mostly needs to protect against Sideways/Twisting Motions from whatever else is in the shipping box with it.
If you need help raising funds, and don't want to manage every aspect of that yourself, you should check out CrowdTilt.
CrowdTilt allows you to use it for pre-orders.
Kickstarter has a very restrictive "Rewards" system, you can't use it to do pre-orders.
If you haven't already, you might want to announce your HuCard Cases, and Website's URL, over at TheCoverProject.net (http://www.thecoverproject.net/) when you are ready to start Crowdfunding, and/or ready to start selling them.
EDITED TO ADD:
If you'd like, I can add links that point to your online store, on the pages, on my website, where I have placeholders for the HuCard Trays.
I'm glad to see your interest. I'm going to try and produce the cases myself depending on how my mold making works out and if that does not work the way I want it I have several quotes both domestic and foreign that I can fall back on. I have considered taking preorders for the project but at this point I don't really feel comfortable taking money. I have never had a mold of this complexity produced before and the last thing I want is to be sitting on peoples money for months and months while I work out the details.
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and the last thing I want is to be sitting on peoples money for months and months while I work out the details.
This community is very forgiving on that. =]
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Jello slug,
Nice work!
I would definitely be interested in your cases when they are available for sale.
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This thread is a complete tease.
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There's several ways he can go about getting the HuCARD Trays and the Arm mass produced.
Whatever way he chooses, it's gonna take a while, because he's going to need to use two separate molds, unless he wants the Tray and Arm to be made of the Same Material (Polystyrene or Polypropylene).
Polystyrene is rather expensive.
He might decide to make the tray out of Near-Black Polypropylene, then use Clear Polystyrene for the Arm only.
My guess is that most of the time this is taking, is due mostly to material selection/testing,
(there's like a bazillion different materials to choose from)
and he's taking his time, to make sure he gets both the Designs and the Colors just right. :wink:
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Any updates on these cases?
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Any updates on these cases?
I know it sees like vaporware at this point but the new mill is here and I am still working on it.
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Any updates on these cases?
I know it sees like vaporware at this point but the new mill is here and I am still working on it.
Hey man, happy new year. Glad to see you posting again.
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I have some games waiting to rest in your cases :)
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Yes! It's alive! Still!
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I want to believe.
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We might have to buy a 3d printer and make our own.
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We might have to buy a 3d printer and make our own.
I have already printed one and it would be very expensive to do that. There is not really any of volume discount so printing a handful cost just as much as printing hundreds (per piece).
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I don't know if I'm supposed to mention it, but I have one of the Aetherbyte beta cases, and it's sweet! I hope they find a way to make the final version available to this forum, because I'd purchase a bunch more.
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Just finished reading this thread. Those cases look great so far, I'd be interested in the final product as well.
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was just looking for something like this, so this is perfect! cannot wait to see the final product - i need about 10-15 currently, forgive my ignorance but if they're the basic jewel case with the hucard clip, is there another good resource for the spine sticker thing?
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..... is there another good resource for the spine sticker thing?
Sparky has the US games covered (clicky), and they're awesome. :mrgreen:
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I'm definitely down for a combination of this and the Sparky labels. Hell yeah.
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Short answer: YES!
Long Answer YES!
P.S. I am way late to the party. :lol:
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Sparky has the US games covered (clicky), and they're awesome. :mrgreen:
oh wow, this is perfect - time to grab a few blank jewel cases (for now) and see if Mzo & bishopcruz are down to share a Sticky-large! yeah, i meant to say that.
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very good idea. i would be interested for sure!!!!
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...any updates here? can't wait to place an order with some friends!
ps sorry to bother but where's the place to buy hucard sleeves again?
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...any updates here? can't wait to place an order with some friends!
ps sorry to bother but where's the place to buy hucard sleeves again?
I too am eager to purchase hu cases, I hope this project comes to fruition :pray: :pray: :pray:
btw sleeves can be purchased here:
http://seymoronion.com/Custom_Game_Cases/TG16_Chip.html
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There we go - thanks man! ordered a pack of 25.
*edit wait wait, HuCard Game Trays, are those the same things as this thread? they don't seem to be for sale, which is a shame cause i could really use some!
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Sleeves are available through SeymorOnion. Trays are not yet available. Not through him or jelloslug (this thread).
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...any updates here? can't wait to place an order with some friends!
ps sorry to bother but where's the place to buy hucard sleeves again?
I too am eager to purchase hu cases, I hope this project comes to fruition :pray: :pray: :pray:
btw sleeves can be purchased here:
http://seymoronion.com/Custom_Game_Cases/TG16_Chip.html
I second this. Hopefully we hear some good news on this.
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This is awesome, while i dont need any of these im happy to donate something small to help fund the project.
What with sparkys inserts, spines, boxes ( fingers crossed he makes some more ) and these cases the only think missing are the plastic inserts for games with no jewel cases, i contacted some companies about getting them made, but shipping to the rest of the world doesnt make sense, would be better for a US based person to get them made and ship to the few of us us guys who are overseas. making its cheaper for the rest.
Awesome work guys... :)
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man i keep checking back on this thread hoping for updates - ive got my orphan hucards in sleeves awkwardly in DVD cases, shit's killing me haha. i was this close to just buying sparkies and making CD jewels work!
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Are these going to be considered the best replacement storage option for hu card cases (aside from the sleeves?)
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man i keep checking back on this thread hoping for updates - ive got my orphan hucards in sleeves awkwardly in DVD cases, shit's killing me haha. i was this close to just buying sparkies and making CD jewels work!
Just click the notify button. Then you don't have to check back, it checks back on you.
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i could use these !
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I also had a similar idea that used a 3d printer. The work some of them do is amazing and they can pump out prototypes really fast.
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Man, I could use a lot of these!
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I also had a similar idea that used a 3d printer. The work some of them do is amazing and they can pump out prototypes really fast.
You mean like:
http://aetherbyte.blogspot.com/2014/04/april-stuff-very-important-updates.html
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I also had a similar idea that used a 3d printer. The work some of them do is amazing and they can pump out prototypes really fast.
You mean like:
http://aetherbyte.blogspot.com/2014/04/april-stuff-very-important-updates.html
How long does it take to do one of your beautiful blue AetherByte cases?
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About 5 hours printing. Some few minutes cleaning it up.
There's a thread where we discussed what it takes to actually make the ABCards, btw.
(FYI: the printer runs at 30 mm/s for that 'quality'. I haven't played much with the speed. I will when I rebuild the carriage to use all bearings instead of the delron blocks it's using for support on two rods. The guys in the printer forum -say- I can go up to 150 mm/s, same quality, if I fix the carriage. We will see...)
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I also had a similar idea that used a 3d printer. The work some of them do is amazing and they can pump out prototypes really fast.
I had the prototype printed and it came out nice. It still cost prohibitive to do anything other than testing right now though.
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I also had a similar idea that used a 3d printer. The work some of them do is amazing and they can pump out prototypes really fast.
You mean like:
http://aetherbyte.blogspot.com/2014/04/april-stuff-very-important-updates.html
Oh shit, them are nice :-) are you going to sell cases? if so I would be interested as i have about 10 - 12 games with no cases, I wanted originals but it look like thats gonna be a hard thing to do. I will still be going for the originals but mean time they would keep your games safe :-)