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Title: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: HercTNT on December 07, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Ok, i'm sure some of you are gonna hate this one, but i can't be nice about it. I love bonk. Bonk's Revenge is one of my favorite platformers. Super Bonk for snes sucks!!!  Why? you ask. Well, first of all: BONK SHOULD NOT HAVE SLOWDOWN!!!!  Super Bonk is a sloppy mess of slowdown. Music sucks, sound effects really suck, level design in shit. The way he slides around the game should be called "Bonk on Ice". The only bright spots in the game is the graphics are decent, and some of the mini games are fun. I made it to the last level with tons of lives and simply gave up. I could not stand one more poorly designed level. Hell, Bonk on gameboy was considerably better, despite lack of color and sound channels.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: Duo_R on December 07, 2012, 04:05:38 PM
2nd one is slightly better
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: esteban on December 07, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Ok, i'm sure some of you are gonna hate this one, but i can't be nice about it. I love bonk. Bonk's Revenge is one of my favorite platformers. Super Bonk for snes sucks!!!  Why? you ask. Well, first of all: BONK SHOULD NOT HAVE SLOWDOWN!!!!  Super Bonk is a sloppy mess of slowdown. Music sucks, sound effects really suck, level design in shit. The way he slides around the game should be called "Bonk on Ice". The only bright spots in the game is the graphics are decent, and some of the mini games are fun. I made it to the last level with tons of lives and simply gave up. I could not stand one more poorly designed level. Hell, Bonk on gameboy was considerably better, despite lack of color and sound channels.

http://junk.tg-16.com/audio/miscellaneous/Ken_Griffey_Jr_Winning_Run-Base.mp3

Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on December 07, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
This is why I would someday like to reshape this game completely, & do it for the Turbo, that would rock.  For me, even the gfx suffer, due to a darker pallete, it needs brightening up, more like Super Bonk 2 was.  Waaaaaayyy too many minigames in each stage as well, it slows down the gameplay.  I hope someday I can work on some sort of port or something that fixes all these things, that would make me a happy camper!
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: fraggore on December 08, 2012, 01:54:51 AM
I haven't played it for years but I remember not likening it much and thinking the of engine version was much better.

Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: lukester on December 08, 2012, 06:47:30 AM
I have Super Bonk on Virtual Console, and it's pretty bad.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: esteban on December 08, 2012, 07:10:53 AM
I forgot to mention that I completely agree with HercTNT (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: KingDrool on December 08, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
Yeah, it's not very good. But like Duo_R said, the second one is better. It's kind of like Bonk's answer to Super Mario World. I really like it.

Neither of them are as good as Adventure or Revenge, though.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: MrFlutterPie on December 08, 2012, 07:34:09 AM
I don't really care for Super Bonk as well.  The gameboy ones aren't too bad but I agree the level design is so poor.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: HercTNT on December 08, 2012, 07:50:41 AM
I have not played number two yet, but i'm not sure i want to. its gonna take alot for me to even consider going through that shit again. i'm thinking about giving the bonk remake for gamecube a try. i'm told its much better. for all the so called "advantages" of the super nes, super bonk is utter shit.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: turbokon on December 08, 2012, 09:11:38 AM
Agree, it doesn't have charms that the TG16 version has.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: DragonmasterDan on December 08, 2012, 03:31:22 PM
I see Super Bonk as being about on par (possibly very slightly worse) than Bonk 3. There's slowdown, both got kind of lazy with level design. I agree completely that Super Bonk 2 is a vast improvement, too bad we didn't get it in the US.

With that said, Bonk's Revenge is the best game in the series.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: Arkhan on December 08, 2012, 07:10:32 PM
I thought Super Bonk was fun as f*ck.   It's so off the wall and goofy.   I played the shit out of it growing up.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: vestcoat on December 09, 2012, 06:39:49 AM
I enjoy Super Bonk if I just cruise through - no exploring, no bonus rounds, no monster stomachs. I like the graphics and the challenging bosses, the music is average, the level design is below average. Slowdown has never bothered me unless it's accompanied by massive flicker.
Bonk's Adventure and Super Bonk 2 are the best.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: Arkhan on December 09, 2012, 08:29:01 AM
 I like the game the most once you fly out of the t-rex nose and end up in space.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: esteban on December 10, 2012, 01:09:44 PM
This thread half-inspired me to replay Super Bonk.

I popped the cart in.

Ha!

Maybe I'll give it another chance next year.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: HercTNT on December 10, 2012, 01:31:48 PM
Like vestcoat said, if they had left out all that extra crap that really slowed down the gameplay and chopped up the levels it would have helped. but bonk still controlled shitty in my opinion. I also agree that the bosses were challenging and in the spirit of bonk. Super bonk though has just way to much wrong overwhelming the right. next bonk i want to play is bonks revenge on gameboy.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: ToiletKid on December 15, 2012, 05:16:14 PM
I love all Bonk games,and the first Super Bonk is my favorite closely followed by Bonk 3. I guess I prefer the maligned ones...they're both a little crazier than the avg Bonk and I guess that's why they're my favs (and I love Big Bonk).
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: esteban on December 15, 2012, 11:36:22 PM
I love all Bonk games,and the first Super Bonk is my favorite closely followed by Bonk 3. I guess I prefer the maligned ones...they're both a little crazier than the avg Bonk and I guess that's why they're my favs (and I love Big Bonk).

I admit that I am biased towards TG-16 Bonk 1 & 2...which means that I use them as the yardstick to measure all the other games. If I let go of Bonk 1 & 2, I probably would find more to like in the other games.

Believe me, I wanted to like the other games. But Super Bonk, especially, stumbled and bumbled its way into the glue factory on its own accord.

Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: ToiletKid on December 16, 2012, 11:59:54 AM
Super Bonk is def more of a slower adventure than the PC Engine ones, it's a bit more of a kitchen sink kind of game. I think it blows Super Mario World out of the water in fun factor,variety,looks,sounds,etc.. I think non-Turboheads probably appreciate it alot more on average.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on December 16, 2012, 04:17:43 PM
Super Bonk is def more of a slower adventure than the PC Engine ones, it's a bit more of a kitchen sink kind of game. I think it blows Super Mario World out of the water in fun factor,variety,looks,sounds,etc.. I think non-Turboheads probably appreciate it alot more on average.

What's funny, is that the movemnt of Bonk himself I think is faster then the older games, but the game itself still feels slower.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: Tatsujin on December 16, 2012, 04:47:39 PM
Lol #1 blows SMW out of the water. rolf.
Lol #2 vestcoats new avatar looks like a pinball game for the 2600.
Title: Re: Super Bonk Sucks!
Post by: NightWolve on December 16, 2012, 10:03:27 PM
I decided I'm gonna sell off my SNES collection (about 18 carts) in favor of converting it all to the SD2SNES Everdrive (http://shop.retrogate.com/SD2SNES-SD2SNES.htm) (the one cart to rule them all), and Super Bonk is one of my originals that's got to go - like the rest they just sit, collect dust and they might as well find a new home (I don't feel that attached to anything, other than my 4 Squaresoft titles like Chrono Trigger which I'm keeping). It's in very good condition and complete: box, manual, etc. PM me an offer if interested, it's going off to eBay eventually if not.

As for what I think of it, I have the same criticism for Bonk III (NEC), very boring music... I verified this with the sound menu and I just don't like it (read: I *hate* it)! On the plus side, it has very colorful graphics, provides another Bonk adventure, etc. same kind of deal as other Bonk games. Worth a play-through, then off to storage it goes!