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Title: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on February 07, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
I don't know if anybody is into retro video games in here, but I recently pulled out my 2600 and had a go at it. Now, the 2600 is what really started it all for me. My first console, and first experience with home video games when I was about 7. A few games I pulled out and played today...Night Driver, Circus Atari, and Missle Command. Night Driver still has a good sense of speed and missle command is a great port for what they had to work with. Circus Atari wasn't even close to as fun as I remember, but hell, can't win 'em all. I remember keystone capers being a lot of fun along with river raid, but I don't seem to have these at the moment. Anyway, enough about me. What was the last game you played on a 2600?
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Bernie on February 07, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Kangaroo!
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Tatsujin on February 07, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
certainly not.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: hoobs88 on February 07, 2013, 02:31:12 PM
I sold my 2600 and all my games when I was in Jr. High because I had just gotten the Nintendo Entertainment System. I regretted it years later then while video game hunting, picked up a 2600 junior system and a few of the games that I used to own. I still haven't played it but it's nice to know that I can whenever I get the urge.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: esteban on February 07, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
I still have 2600 and bunch a games.
KABOOM COMBAT ATLANTIS (is that the title?) etc. etc.
But, honestly, I haven't take. The 2600 out too frequently in the past decade. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: NightWolve on February 07, 2013, 03:05:10 PM
I can safely say NO! ;) No thanks, not interested in the slightest bit... But hey, I guess I do owe the ole 2600 for my love of shooters. I think Megamania is its best shooter, followed by River Raid, another good one (I remember my dad actually liked the latter). Anyway, hell if I can remember what the last game I played for it was though. Way too long ago.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: roflmao on February 07, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
I was actually just thinking about unloading a bunch of my 2600 stuff because I don't remember the last time I had the urge to hook it up.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: LameKat on February 07, 2013, 03:33:18 PM
Haven't had it out in a while, mostly because its seems to be a pain in the ass to hook up. I probably leave it out if i had it modded. Last time I played I had a group of friends over for a few drinks, for some reason the more I drink the better I am at Kaboom (same goes for Tetris). Downloaded the app for Iphone so I could play Tempest, my 8 year old gets more play out of it than I do.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2013, 04:42:44 PM
gave away two 2600's and 80 games a few years ago. The only game i would still play on a regular basis is Dragon stomper from the star path supercharger. emulator is just about the only way to play that one these days. Basic, but great game.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 07, 2013, 04:46:12 PM
Combat and Warlords are great...I think that's it. Once I got my Colecovision I never needed 2600 again. The system, frankly, was a piece of crap and I miss it not even slightly. Horrible games, terrible joysticks...the best part of 2600 was the very good box art on some of the games.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: HercTNT on February 07, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
Combat and Warlords are great...I think that's it. Once I got my Colecovision I never needed 2600 again. The system, frankly, was a piece of crap and I miss it not even slightly. Horrible games, terrible joysticks...the best part of 2600 was the very good box art on some of the games.
You know, thats so painfully true. I grew up on the 2600 and thought it was the cats ass when i was a kid. Tried to get back into it three years ago and was sorry I did. looked like shit, played like shit.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 07, 2013, 08:49:45 PM
I spent a lot of time in the arcade in the 80s so I knew how good games could be and how incredibly shitty, barely recognizable, 2600 ports of games were. I always hated those f*cking sticks. They required so much damned muscle to use!
When the NES came out I was impressed with Super Mario Bros and the NES ports of Donkey Kong 3, Donkey Kong Junior, etc. Of course, once the NES really got going it too started to be flooded with horrendous ports of shit way beyond its grasp like Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, and whatever the hell those Strider, Rygar and Ninja Gaiden things were supposed to be. Putting shops in a game does not make up for its shortcomings!
My favorite NES games have always been the ones it handled easily like Excitebike and Ballon Fight. By the time stuff like Battletoads and Mighty Final Fight came out the flicker and slowdown were so damned terrible...
Similarly, Combat, the 2600 pack-in is my favorite 2600 game with Warlords close behind. Rampage and Double Dragon are very nearly unplayable to anyone who has actually experienced a decent video game in their life. Pac Man isn't any use to a real fan of the arcade game, but it serves more like a Pac Man from a parallel universe. If you've never been to the arcade Pac Man 2600 is a decent game. If you spent $200 at the arcade on the real thing you are going to be pretty pissed with the POS 2600 game.
One of the ways I describe PC Engine is that its basically NES without the flicker. 8-bit games done properly. Its not just because the system is way more powerful than a NES, but also because usually the developers knew how to chill the f*ck out. Instead of flickering all over the place, just make the sprites a little smaller or don't layer them so much.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 07, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Occasionally I play 2600 games. While I have a few different 2600 systems I generally play them on my Atari 7800. A few months ago I was playing River Raid and Pitfall 2.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: majors on February 08, 2013, 01:19:21 AM
I keep my AV(Longhorn) modded 2600 mainly for conventions. I've pick up a few games over the years. I keep it hooked up in my console area so it readily accessible at any time.
... missle command is a great port for what they had to work with. ... I remember keystone capers being a lot of fun along with river raid, but I don't seem to have these at the moment.
Keystone is one of my favs and I totally agree on Missle, very playable and fun. I play Yar's Revenge and Warlords at least once a year when I break it out at AZ.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on February 08, 2013, 01:27:18 AM
I don't know if anybody is into retro video games in here
I would say everyone on this forum is...Or do you consider retro pre-turbo?
Yes. This was just a joke to open the thread.
KABOOM is terrific and addicting, still very playable today, and none of the current remakes come close I keep seeing Warlords which is one I'm not familiar with. What type of game is it?
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Raizen1984 on February 08, 2013, 04:10:57 AM
Of course, once the NES really got going it too started to be flooded with horrendous ports of shit way beyond its grasp like Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, and whatever the hell those Strider, Rygar and Ninja Gaiden things were supposed to be.
I agree with most of this, but I need some kind of explanation as to why Ninja Gaiden Arcade is better than Ninja Gaiden on NES.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: HercTNT on February 08, 2013, 05:13:43 AM
Damn near every system is guilty of having horrific shit dumped off on it, and still have a library of good games worth playing. In my opinion the 2600 is one of the worst offenders. Development cycles were 2-4 months for many games with one guy making them. just way to much crap. thats why the 2600 has not stood the test of time for me. Despite that, dragon stomper, chiplifter, seaquest, megamania, spider fighter, combat, and warlords are still worth playing.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Arkhan on February 08, 2013, 05:15:39 AM
I sometimes fire up Astroblast/smash, Berzerk, Defender, and a few other games on my INTV2 w/ Atari System Diddler.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on February 08, 2013, 06:00:31 AM
I agree with most of this, but I need some kind of explanation as to why Ninja Gaiden Arcade is better than Ninja Gaiden on NES.
His Rygar example is another example of this. NES Rygar is way better than the arcade one.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Arkhan on February 08, 2013, 06:12:15 AM
"Way better" is subjective.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: turbokon on February 08, 2013, 07:44:04 AM
The Atari 2600 was almost our first game system. In 1989 or so, a kid in our neighborhood tried to sell one to me for $15 but he couldn't get it to work. I was never into it, it was before my time.
I recently picked up the 2600 with 30 or so games from a guy at my last company. Still can't really get into it. Most games didn't work correctly, remotes didn't work right and picture quaily is too grainy. So it's setting in a box right now. I might off loaded to eBay eventually.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on February 08, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
The Atari 2600 was almost our first game system. In 1989 or so, a kid in our neighborhood tried to sell one to me for $15 but he couldn't get it to work. I was never into it, it was before my time.
I recently picked up the 2600 with 30 or so games from a guy at my last company. Still can't really get into it. Most games didn't work correctly, remotes didn't work right and picture quaily is too grainy. So it's setting in a box right now. I might off loaded to eBay eventually.
will cost you more to ship than you will get for it. :)
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: esteban on March 09, 2013, 05:16:39 PM
I agree with most of this, but I need some kind of explanation as to why Ninja Gaiden Arcade is better than Ninja Gaiden on NES.
His Rygar example is another example of this. NES Rygar is way better than the arcade one.
I love Rygar on NES. SOOOOO much more depth and fun than the arcade game (and I love the arcade game for what it is....but DAMN, they are totally different games and I had so much fun with NES)
Anyway...Rygar arcade is like a shoot-em-up without the dopplegangers*
*hahahahhaha. you know what I'm sayin'.**
** if you don't know what I'm sayin'...well, NINJA SPIRIT had dopplegangers.
KONAMI instruction manuals, where I learned how to spell rendezvous and acquired definition of at least one German word.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: NightWolve on March 09, 2013, 06:49:09 PM
I agree with most of this, but I need some kind of explanation as to why Ninja Gaiden Arcade is better than Ninja Gaiden on NES.
His Rygar example is another example of this. NES Rygar is way better than the arcade one.
I love Rygar on NES. SOOOOO much more depth and fun than the arcade game (and I love the arcade game for what it is....but DAMN, they are totally different games and I had so much fun with NES)
Yeah, the NES Rygar was a very interesting and awesome game with lots of replay value to boot. Music was pretty good too. While the arcade version was total beat-'em-up action, this port was turned into an Action-RPG and by then that had become my favorite genre, so I was quite pleased with it even though it wasn't what I thought it would be. You know, it really wasn't intended to be a "port," they intentionally took it in a RPG direction as mentioned. I also really liked that there was a trick to access an alternate, sort of damaged/undeveloped world by jumping at a certain point near a cliff and managing to land on it. This would then allow you to explore sections of the game you normally weren't supposed to access. I remember how cool it was having discovered it and I believe I read there was actually a boss you could fight at some point, but yeah, there was lots to explore! The game just had a mystique to it for me and that was part of it.
It's one of my top NES favorites, that's for sure, and I recommend it! You can sort of still remember the eerie music of the last area before fighting the final boss; overall, a very satisfying game, start to finish if you ask me. Anyway, Zeta...you are wrong on that one!!!! ;) But I agree about Ninja Gaiden; I liked the arcade version better...
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: esteban on March 10, 2013, 09:46:07 AM
NES NINJA GAIDEN > ARCADE NINJA GAIDEN (sorry folks) (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Tatsujin on March 10, 2013, 11:58:18 AM
Most games didn't work correctly, remotes didn't work right and picture quaily is too grainy.
Sounds pretty much working to me.
HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: glazball on March 11, 2013, 03:59:14 AM
Few people here hatin' on the 2600! What's up with that? Warlords is one of the best 4p games hands down, even to this day. Some other good ones mentioned too: Kaboom, Megamania, Missile Command, Yar's Revenge. Let's not forget Berzerk (a fav of mine), Frogger, Space Invaders, Turmoil, Gyruss. Respect the 2600!
But to answer your question: it's sadly been a while since I've played mine. Getting my refurbished ColecoVision back this week from a member of the AtariAge forums, so I'll be playing that for the forseeable future (and I'm giddy with excitement)!
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Post by: turbokon on March 11, 2013, 05:28:00 AM
Mine have been boxed up since the big move. As soon as I can find it I may just raffle it off here.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on March 11, 2013, 05:51:34 AM
Well now i want megamania and warlords. I dont know anything about these two.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Arkhan on March 11, 2013, 05:52:30 AM
Megamania is f*cking tits.
Its like pew pew pew *D8dfdf98dfu*U* eefpepfkzpfkzpfk
pew pew pew oifjaodfjzogijeo4yij34yh
forever.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: glazball on March 11, 2013, 03:13:47 PM
I do like tits, as well as f*cking them. Tits = Good.
Therefore, Megamania = Good.
That's another thumbs up for the game from Ark!
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Tatsujin on March 11, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
how about Medieval Mayhem? Heard it's teh best multiplayer game of ever?
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Post by: Jibbajaba on March 11, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
Yeah I play mine sometimes. Have it modified for s-video and have a flash cart for it. Good times.
Chris
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: RoyVegas on March 11, 2013, 05:56:13 PM
An Atari was my first system too. I had a lot of good times with it as a kid. The last time I played one was a couple years ago and It was actually an Atari flashback. I loved playing Missile Command and Pitfall but it's just not the same as it was back then. I ended up giving it to Oldskool since all it did was sit in its box in my garage.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Tatsujin on March 12, 2013, 12:44:28 AM
Funnily it was also my 1st console beside G&Ws which were my 1st home gaming experience. Later i got le c=64 :)
My dad was keeping telling me that i was also playing on a pong like console at age of 2, but which i just can't remember anymore.. lol.
But best game experience will rest on the arcade machines like the cocktail tables which were very pop at the end of 70s beginning 80s, in any kind restaurants and bars etc. I often went with the family. So great memories.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: glazball on March 13, 2013, 07:05:30 AM
I agree Tatsujin! I remember playing the shit out of a tabletop Pengo at Chuck E Cheese back in the early 80s. Kind of an obscure flop but I still love Pengo to this day. 5200 version is better than the 2600 though. Now you've got me thinking about Chuck E Cheese circa 1983/4! It was like a wonderland - they had every damn game back then: Punch Out, Moon Patrol, Tempest, Dragons Lair. Ah the pre-crash days!
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: NightWolve on March 13, 2013, 08:21:45 AM
NES NINJA GAIDEN > ARCADE NINJA GAIDEN (sorry folks) (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
They should've kept the from the arcade version, that was a gyp! The arcade units I played this on had good speakers with kickass bass I recall, so it sounded a lot better on the real thing than from that link. But yeah, the NES "port" lost a lot of points for that in my book... ;)
Rygar/Ninja Gaiden were designed properly for the arcade setting as pure beat-'em-ups. I remember Rygar especially was a quarter-thief like no other... Death could come for you in numerous ways, and often very quickly! Centipedes popping up from the ground, guys getting dropped in by flying terradactals and what not, the clock running out on ya and then getting chased by a special character as a result, etc. That game did operate like the Final Destination movies, if you were supposed to die before when the CPU decided it was time and you barely managed to escape, it'd adjust enemy attack scenarios ensuring death would come regardless (I exaggerate, but yeah!).. It was rare for me to ever get past the 1st level and it took a lot of quarters... Then came the Internet, the MAME emulator and I could finally get to beat it, but not without cheating via F1 save/load every damn step of the way! There is no "easy" difficulty setting on that game despite the configuration settings, that's for sure...
Anyway, if you just judge the NES versions as pure ports against the arcade versions, then I'd agree with Zeta, they're terrible... But that's limiting your scope and not giving 'em a chance as 8-bit games on their own. The home console allowed developers to take the games in a different direction and of course they couldn't achieve the graphics quality level of the arcades, but at least in Rygar's case (for me), they made a very good 8-bit Action-RPG game that was quite memorable. I can't remember Ninja Gaiden NES very well so I can't speak for it, I know I beat it and the two sequels, but that's about it. I know I had more fun with the arcade version and it wasn't crazy impossible like Rygar was.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 13, 2013, 08:31:38 AM
Man, I forgot about Megamania. It was pretty great. I did some music for a remake of Megamania that my friend was working on that never got finished.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on March 13, 2013, 08:40:45 AM
I can't remember Ninja Gaiden NES very well so I can't speak for it, I know I beat it and the two sequels, but that's about it. I know I had more fun with the arcade version and it wasn't crazy impossible like Rygar was.
You beat Gaiden 1, but don't remember it much??? That last level is a killer and still gives me nightmares.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: NightWolve on March 13, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
I can't remember Ninja Gaiden NES very well so I can't speak for it, I know I beat it and the two sequels, but that's about it. I know I had more fun with the arcade version and it wasn't crazy impossible like Rygar was.
You beat Gaiden 1, but don't remember it much??? That last level is a killer and still gives me nightmares.
Yeah, I beat all three of them (up to "Ancient Ship of Doom"), but it was way too long ago to remember much... Mind you, I beat 170 NES games total that I couldn't tell you much about either unless if the game was really good or stood out in some way or some other factor, etc. I still have to finish adding them to my BackLoggery List (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=nightwolve&console=NES) - only typed in about 59 as of yet from a manual list that I actually kept. Take Battletoads, that's etched into my memory because I rented it 3 times and could not beat it, failed each time... Got very close, but gave up. Funny enough, I learned it had achieved a legendary status for its difficulty down the road.
Speaking of Megamania again, it's the only game I added to my 2600 Victoly List (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=nightwolve&console=2600). ;)
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: esteban on March 13, 2013, 03:00:51 PM
I can't remember Ninja Gaiden NES very well so I can't speak for it, I know I beat it and the two sequels, but that's about it. I know I had more fun with the arcade version and it wasn't crazy impossible like Rygar was.
You beat Gaiden 1, but don't remember it much??? That last level is a killer and still gives me nightmares.
Yeah, I beat all three of them (up to "Ancient Ship of Doom"), but it was way too long ago to remember much... Mind you, I beat 170 NES games total that I couldn't tell you much about either unless if the game was really good or stood out in some way or some other factor, etc. I still have to finish adding them to my BackLoggery List (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=nightwolve&console=NES) - only typed in about 59 as of yet from a manual list that I actually kept. Take Battletoads, that's etched into my memory because I rented it 3 times and could not beat it, failed each time... Got very close, but gave up. Funny enough, I learned it had achieved a legendary status for its difficulty down the road.
Speaking of Megamania again, it's the only game I added to my 2600 Victoly List (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=nightwolve&console=2600). ;)
Totally with you on the "senility" of our age. There are many games that I have beaten but simply don't remember too well after all these years.
I never beat BattleToads either! I used to choke on one of those later jetski levels...I'd miss a jump or something and then just fall apart. I don't even know if I was close to the final stage or not.
DIE DIE DIE was so common in any quarter-muncher and I totally agree that there were times when surviving seemed like a GLITCH (Final Destination, indeed!).
I remember losing many quarters on Spy Hunter until I started getting good at it. Same with MEGA ZONE (my favorite under-appreciated and over-forgotten arcade game that I proselytize whenever I get a chance).
BACK ON TOPIC:
I remember playing some Star Wars game (back in the day) where you are on Hoth (horizontal shoot-em-up) and I wonder if I'd still find the game SUCKY. I am curious. Haven't touched that game in a billion years (it was unworthy of the Star Wars branding).
Anyway...
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bob on March 13, 2013, 03:10:58 PM
I remember playing some Star Wars game (back in the day) where you are on Hoth (horizontal shoot-em-up) and I wonder if I'd still find the game SUCKY. I am curious. Haven't touched that game in a billion years (it was unworthy of the Star Wars branding).
Anyway...
the return of the jedi game where you have to warp to the death star, then destroy it was a fun game.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: NightWolve on March 13, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
I never beat BattleToads either! I used to choke on one of those later jetski levels...I'd miss a jump or something and then just fall apart. I don't even know if I was close to the final stage or not.
Yeap, that was it, some jetski level towards the end. You'd miss a jump or something, it'd all go to hell and your Continues were limited (you had to play perfectly to get to that level and blow all your continues there)... It got ranked as one of the hardest games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battletoads_(video_game)) ever made it turns out. I tried my best to beat it too, made it a mission, but just couldn't do it... Bastard of a game (by Rare of DKC fame)!!
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: Tatsujin on March 13, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
I never beat BattleToads either! I used to choke on one of those later jetski levels...I'd miss a jump or something and then just fall apart. I don't even know if I was close to the final stage or not.
Yeap, that was it, some jetski level towards the end. You'd miss a jump or something, it'd all go to hell
That's the loc 99.9998784785% of all player get stuck and throwing in the white towel.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: bust3dstr8 on March 13, 2013, 05:17:48 PM
I still find time for some good ole Atari Paddle games now and then.
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Post by: rag-time4 on March 13, 2013, 06:06:28 PM
I still find time for some good ole Atari Paddle games now and then.
The aformentioned Warlords is a paddle game. I remember back in the mid eighties, before anyone in my family had an NES, I had a lot of fun playing Warlords with my older brother and my then brothers-in-law. Great game for multiplayer.
Title: Re: Anybody still find time for the 2600?
Post by: esteban on March 14, 2013, 05:30:15 PM