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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG/PCE Repair/Mod Discussion => Topic started by: vxbinaca on February 13, 2013, 07:03:37 AM

Title: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 13, 2013, 07:03:37 AM
1. Whos doing the mods? I need a Tennekoe 2 and eventually a IFU-30 modded.

2. I want to plan this right. There are no new TVs made today with S-Video, this leaves out an analog fallback. So I'll need to do boosted RGB -> Component w/ Stereo audio. Who sells the boxes that do that with some sort of stereo audio option?

3. With the last question, Can I get away with using RCAs or should I do SCART?
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: SamIAm on February 13, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
2. I want to plan this right. There are no new TVs made today with S-Video, this leaves out an analog fallback. So I'll need to do boosted RGB -> Component w/ Stereo audio. Who sells the boxes that do that with some sort of stereo audio option?


Assuming you're not talking about digital component video, this works very well:
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=apt1
Naturally, you have to use scart cables for everything, but it's still nice.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 13, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
2. I want to plan this right. There are no new TVs made today with S-Video, this leaves out an analog fallback. So I'll need to do boosted RGB -> Component w/ Stereo audio. Who sells the boxes that do that with some sort of stereo audio option?


Assuming you're not talking about digital component video, this works very well:
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=apt1
Naturally, you have to use scart cables for everything, but it's still nice.


I live in the US, so thats outrageously priced after currency conversion.

*Sigh*

Okay I have to think about that because It'd be used for multiple systems so it may end up being worth it.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: ApolloBoy on February 13, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
Assuming you're not talking about digital component video, this works very well:
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=apt1
Naturally, you have to use scart cables for everything, but it's still nice.

I'm with the OP, that's way too expensive for what it is. Here's a cheaper solution: http://tinyurl.com/c3khrhr
(http://tinyurl.com/c3khrhr)
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 13, 2013, 04:40:19 PM
Assuming you're not talking about digital component video, this works very well:
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=apt1
Naturally, you have to use scart cables for everything, but it's still nice.

I'm with the OP, that's way too expensive for what it is. Here's a cheaper solution: http://tinyurl.com/c3khrhr
(http://tinyurl.com/c3khrhr)


I just found that a few hours ago. As soon as I can get a quote for the work and work out the details I'll pull the trigger on the mod and the box.

ApolloBoy, don't you do RGB mods?

Edit:

I'll have to break out stereo audio to a 3.5mm TRS I see.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: ApolloBoy on February 14, 2013, 05:24:58 AM
ApolloBoy, don't you do RGB mods?
I do, but right now I don't have the parts to build cables. However, I do have 9-pin mini-DIN jacks, so if you have a white PCE I can remove the RF modulator and then you'll be able to use the same cables as the Genesis 2/3.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: King_Vidiot on February 14, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
no use going through the trouble of rgb modding if you're just going to ruin it by hooking it up to a flatscreen or downgrading it to component
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 14, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
no use going through the trouble of rgb modding if you're just going to ruin it by hooking it up to a flatscreen or downgrading it to component

I would contest that notion. Component is nearly as good as RGB and I'm hooking it up to a 4:3 sharp panel. So no improper aspect ratio. It's pretty much the best I'll get and RGB modding future proofs the video for if/when I do get a monitor/panel that lets me do pure RGB input.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 14, 2013, 03:07:58 PM
no use going through the trouble of rgb modding if you're just going to ruin it by hooking it up to a flatscreen or downgrading it to component

The truth: most flat panels suck

The bullshit: the idea that YPBPR isn't as good as RGB. It certainly is.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 14, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
My 20 inch Sharp EDTV displays some of the nicest s-video I've ever seen (coming off my SNES using Yoshis Island as a benchmar over a Monster cable).  And the component is darn good too.

Y'all do know there are hidden menus in these monitors where you can fine tune the panels,  right?

Edit: i may go full bore and get a CSY-121 to do the conversion to component.  Instead of the cheaper box.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: SamIAm on February 14, 2013, 05:31:04 PM
It may be more expensive, but having that audio jack is pretty nice. I bought that keene when it was even more expensive and I was in the US, but being able to plug and play the moment my first scart cable arrived made it worth it. You just have to remember to also pick up a female-female adapter, too.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 14, 2013, 05:31:22 PM
I know that fancy new stuff is coming out every day, and I sure haven't seen every system on every display with every upscaler but...I'm pretty sure most of the HDTV guys haven't seen the best SD has to offer either. From my experience, SD stuff really does look best in SD.

I know there are guys that are totally happy with their giant ass overly sharp zero dot pitch million candle power billboards, but I've never seen one that looks as good as, say, a 17" PVM bought off Craigslist for $50. The stuff is just not supposed to be that huge, and it's definitely supposed to have scanlines.
Title: Re: Couple of RGB questions
Post by: vxbinaca on February 14, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
I know that fancy new stuff is coming out every day, and I sure haven't seen every system on every display with every upscaler but...I'm pretty sure most of the HDTV guys haven't seen the best SD has to offer either. From my experience, SD stuff really does look best in SD.

I know there are guys that are totally happy with their giant ass overly sharp zero dot pitch million candle power billboards, but I've never seen one that looks as good as, say, a 17" PVM bought off Craigslist for $50. The stuff is just not supposed to be that huge, and it's definitely supposed to have scanlines.

>in a thread about RGB
>derides 'overly sharp pixels'

My sides.

Apolloboy are you taking commissions?