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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: KnightWarrior on February 15, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
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I want to rant about something before I forget
There's a Thrift Store I go to 2 days a week, I have some games, not so good..it's about the TurboGrafx-16
So I walk in on a tuesday asking about gaming items, No Nintendo or Sega, She brings out a VCS light Sixer...don't want that
She mumbles I have a TurboGrafx - That caught my ear..I'm thinking a good deal like $15 ...
She brings it out the System, Controller, PSU and 2 RF's
She said let me look it up..I saw ebay :-/ she looks for the lowest BIN at the time $81 - She told me $64 eek...She won't go lower that $45
Is that a good deal or a bad one?? I'm not going there anymore.. If I do find a un-common game that's priced nuts on ebay..they will look there
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Were there any games included? That could easily make the difference depending on what games they were.
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Even with no games $45 isn't a horrible price, depending on the condition.
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I have picked a few in nice condtion around the $40 - $50 mark at resellers and thrift stores. They have made good trade items. Seems to be about the decent going price in the wild. I've found a few that were lower, but those were mostly ones that people wanted to get rid of becuase they had no TG-16 stuff other than a deck.
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While $45 isn't all that bad, the clerk should've done a bit more research and at least priced it based on the average SOLD consoles on ebay... not the unsold, recycled weekly BINs
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Remind me what the purpose of a thrift store is again?
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She said let me look it up..I saw ebay :-/
After that sentence, the outcome is rarely good :( It sucks to explain that the cart the seller is seeing in the internet is complete, has an intact large box , instructions and the map, so it's (almost) worth the 80 bucks the guy from the auction is asking; that's not the case with the cart that the seller is trying to sell for the same 80 bucks, that is not only loose but the case has a hole(!) in it. "BUT IT'S ZEEEEEELDA, DON'T YOU SEE? ZEEEEEELDA! IT'S RAAAARE! IT'S GOOOOOLDEN!" It happens, you know :roll:
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While I agree on some stuff, I don't agree on the pricing...
It's a thrift store, Like at the Eco Thrift I go to, Like I picked up a NES Top Loader there I got for like $10 8 years ago
Maybe at the Store I go to will look up NES Top Loader on ebay
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A few years ago a friend of mine worked for goodwill. One day someone gave them a weird Chinese SNES accessory, a 3.5 inch floppy drive with a parallel port and some ram that would play ROM images. It even allowed saving and loading in RPGs and such. My friend asked his co-worker "How much you think this is worth?" and received an answer of "About $2." That was apparently how the two of them operated, but whatever.
Anyway, I still had a SNES so my friend gave it to me. I was always curious how it wound up at good will, but whatever. Weird stuff goes to weird places sometimes, and is occasionally very cheap!
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She said let me look it up..I saw ebay :-/ she looks for the lowest BIN at the time $81
OMG.
(runs outside, screams in absolute frustration before uprooting a mature pin oak and hurling it javelin-style 3/4's of a mile away)
(walks back inside, slightly more composed)
I can't stand when thrift stores and flea market vendors check Ebay first. What's the point of selling it on the spot, if you go into cyber-space for pricing?
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She said let me look it up..I saw ebay :-/ she looks for the lowest BIN at the time $81
OMG.
(runs outside, screams in absolute frustration before uprooting a mature pin oak and hurling it javelin-style 3/4's of a mile away)
(walks back inside, slightly more composed)
I can't stand when thrift stores and flea market vendors check Ebay first. What's the point of selling it on the spot, if you go into cyber-space for pricing?
Essentially these sellers are hoping that the ability to get something immediately will make you want to spend more than what an item is worth.
For these sellers it really works out in their favor, since you are paying a 10% premium on an item and they are saving the 15% fee.
It is one thing for a brick and mortar game store to do this, I understand they have overhead, but makes no sense at a flea market where the table costs you $20.
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Any time you go to buy something locally and they go to look it up on ebay, politely wait till they are finished wasting their time, then just say "oh hey, its on ebay too? Sweet, I get the prestige of buying it online, get buyer feedback, ebay bonus bucks on purchases, and a return policy for damage or defects under buyer protection, so I will just jump on there and grab it and save some money in the long run. Thanks for letting me know! :)". If people would do that enough people like that would stop trying to use it so much as their price resource. A "thrift store" is usually dealing in donated goods. Its not their job to gouge prices, nor are they supposed to be using ebay for pricing as a way to justify it. They are supposed to be taking donated goods and putting them back out in the community at an affordable price. The money they make is supposed to be going towards whatever charity the thrift store is being operated for. Everything they sell is profit other then the cost to employee the clerks and the lease and limited utilites.
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The thrift store that I go to does the same pricing method by ebay. Usually they start high and discount it if it doesn't sell after a week or two.
I haven't seen any Turbo stuff at my local thrift stores in the last 5 years.
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A "thrift store" is usually dealing in donated goods. Its not their job to gouge prices, nor are they supposed to be using ebay for pricing as a way to justify it. They are supposed to be taking donated goods and putting them back out in the community at an affordable price. The money they make is supposed to be going towards whatever charity the thrift store is being operated for. Everything they sell is profit other then the cost to employee the clerks and the lease and limited utilites.
Exactly. If they don't look online to price the faded OshKosh B'Gosh toddler overalls they're selling, they shouldn't be doing that for video games and accessories.
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At least you found something Turbo-related at a thrift store. I've never even found a measly Keith Courage or anything. :( And it's not for lack of hitting them up. I love to go game hunting at thrift stores, and I have managed to find stuff for the more uncommon systems. Colecovision, Master System, 3DO, CD-i, 32X, etc., those I've found, but never anything Turbo-related.
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A few years ago a friend of mine worked for goodwill. One day someone gave them a weird Chinese SNES accessory, a 3.5 inch floppy drive with a parallel port and some ram that would play ROM images. It even allowed saving and loading in RPGs and such. My friend asked his co-worker "How much you think this is worth?" and received an answer of "About $2." That was apparently how the two of them operated, but whatever.
Anyway, I still had a SNES so my friend gave it to me. I was always curious how it wound up at good will, but whatever. Weird stuff goes to weird places sometimes, and is occasionally very cheap!
Sounds like a game doctor to me.
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I was at a thrift store today they wanted 25 bucks for a loose solstice cart.
I did walk out with some super cool vintage Mario/LOZ cartoon sheets though for 5 bucks though :)
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I was at a thrift store today they wanted 25 bucks for a loose solstice cart.
I just bought one of those from a local game store for $3 and had my pick of 6 different copies. :lol:
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le solistic has l'uber great muzik :D
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I was at a thrift store today they wanted 25 bucks for a loose solstice cart.
I just bought one of those from a local game store for $3 and had my pick of 6 different copies. :lol:
I know eh?
That game isn't worth anything lol.
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I was at a thrift store today they wanted 25 bucks for a loose solstice cart.
I just bought one of those from a local game store for $3 and had my pick of 6 different copies. :lol:
I know eh?
That game isn't worth anything lol.
It's worth about $3. :lol: I love that game though.
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A few years ago a friend of mine worked for goodwill. One day someone gave them a weird Chinese SNES accessory, a 3.5 inch floppy drive with a parallel port and some ram that would play ROM images. It even allowed saving and loading in RPGs and such. My friend asked his co-worker "How much you think this is worth?" and received an answer of "About $2." That was apparently how the two of them operated, but whatever.
Anyway, I still had a SNES so my friend gave it to me. I was always curious how it wound up at good will, but whatever. Weird stuff goes to weird places sometimes, and is occasionally very cheap!
Sounds like a game doctor to me.
Yep!
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Although that price isn't terrible for a console on ebay, if I was in a thrift store and they wanted that much I would tell them to kindly get f*cked.
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Theft Store :idea:
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Thrift store Tg16 for 45 dollar, lol would make me holla !! I think that's a good deal even if it's not in the best condition .
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Yeah, the guy who prices a lot of the game stuff in the thrift near me has an idea what stuff will sell for so he's pretty good about it. Average price is about $4, but can range from $1 to $10 depending on who is doing it. That high prices shit never moves and just gets thrown away eventually, which makes me sad :(
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What chaps my ass about Thrift stores, and it's getting worse, is the continual upward spiral of the prices. Please do not forget...most items these places sell, including ALL electronics, are donated. When that TG-16 is priced at $50 (if you can ever find one), that thrift store might have $3-$5 invested in it for overhead.
Thrift stores, especially Goodwill, have become retail stores. Take a look next time there are Atari 2600 games in your Goodwill. I guarantee they won't be priced under $2.25 a piece. Some are worth that, yes, but not Pac-Man/E.T./Superman/etc., all the super common ones essentially. Want to buy a CD? $5 a piece and that includes all PS1 games. PS2 games? $10 a piece and up...
In my lifetime of thrift store shopping, I have found one Keith Courage which I bought for $.50. I missed a Turboduo, in the box, about a year ago that went for $50. I know this because the woman knew my face and told me she had just sold it 10 or 15 minutes before I walked in.
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Goodwill near my house..25$ Super Mario / Duckhunt........dead fukn serious...I looked at my wife and she said "don't poor people come shop here?"
"why is a nes game so expensive?" :clap:......she took the words right outta my mouth with some exceptions of the f-bomb. :evil:
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Thats what happens when you have someone who sees some retro games climbing in price, and assume everything is worth its weight in gold. More folks should demand some sort of explanation on why its priced in such a way, and then educate. I mean, we already know we will not be going back, so why not give em a piece of our minds before we leave?
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Goodwill near my house..25$ Super Mario / Duckhunt........dead fukn serious...I looked at my wife and she said "don't poor people come shop here?"
"why is a nes game so expensive?" :clap:......she took the words right outta my mouth with some exceptions of the f-bomb. :evil:
Wow, $25 is steep, but look on the bright side...at least your wife doesn't judge. [-(
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thrift stores are a very big business with hipsters and the economy being what they are. $45 is swapmeet price, but cool in the wild anyway.
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Or they could put that Turbo on shopgoodwill.com, where it will sell for $235.00
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Or they could put that Turbo on shopgoodwill.com, where it will sell for $235.00
Yeah they would do something like that...Doesn't that defeat the purpose of goodwill...suppose to be charity prices for the less fortunate...Im sure they would put it on shopgoodwill.com...but i doubt it would sell.
My goodwill hoards all the games behind the counter instead of putting them out...so I already know that they are going off ebay or amazon.
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Well I went back today ..Nothing, But
I was walking out I gave the CD a look..then I saw something 7 TurboGrafx Games .I picked out 4..the 2 ladies wasn't there to look stuff sooo, the Tall Lady there though it was some Computer Games..Haha
I got these for $10 + tax..If I would of came thursday..the Manager would have looks the 4 games up on Ebay, I know World Class Baseball & TV Sport Football isn't worth much on ebay
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/MarioMania/001-11_zps3457c9e6.jpg)
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Well I went back today ..Nothing, But
I was walking out I gave the CD a look..then I saw something 7 TurboGrafx Games .I picked out 4..the 2 ladies wasn't there to look stuff sooo, the Tall Lady there though it was some Computer Games..Haha
I got these for $10 + tax..If I would of came thursday..the Manager would have looks the 4 games up on Ebay, I know World Class Baseball & TV Sport Football isn't worth much on ebay
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/MarioMania/001-11_zps3457c9e6.jpg)
Picture isn't viewable for me. Can you type the game titles?
Thanks.
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It's not refresh again
All CIB's
Bonk's Adventure
The Legendary Axe
Splatterhouse
Battle Ace - SuperGrafx
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It's not refresh again
All CIB's
Bonk's Adventure
The Legendary Axe
Splatterhouse
Battle Ace - SuperGrafx
Nice score! If you found a Supergrafx game, then there might even be a cheap Supergrafx system laying around in that store somewhere too.
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I've never seen a TG16 game at a thrift shop. I have, however, found lots of other games and game systems for good prices. Salvation Army near me has the best prices. Games are $2, systems are usually $10-15. I've picked up a Gameboy Advance, N64, Gamecube and probably 20+ Gamecube, PS2 and XBox titles for super cheap. Goodwill tends to be twice that price and has a worse selection.
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I've never seen a TG16 game at a thrift shop. I have, however, found lots of other games and game systems for good prices. Salvation Army near me has the best prices. Games are $2, systems are usually $10-15. I've picked up a Gameboy Advance, N64, Gamecube and probably 20+ Gamecube, PS2 and XBox titles for super cheap. Goodwill tends to be twice that price and has a worse selection.
Back in the late 90s and early 2000s I did. Hell thats where I got a turbo tap and a few games for like $10. Nowadays, I'll be lucky to find NES games that aren't gouged.
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I be seeing only sports stuff in the wild..
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I remember a few years ago seeing a brand new TurboGrafx-16 at a "Value Village" for 10 bucks. I had just purchased a new one for my dad for somewhere around $55 or so, so I was pumped. Came with Blazing Lazers too, which was awesome.
I thought it was lost in a move, but my parents recently found it, and I'm going to bring it home today. All games in tact (minus Bomberman and Bomberman '93 so my dad can play 'em!)
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It's not refresh again
All CIB's
Bonk's Adventure
The Legendary Axe
Splatterhouse
Battle Ace - SuperGrafx
Wow, a SuperGrafx game a thrift store, I think I've heard it all now!
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i think the boxed IFU i got off of ebay a year ago was a thrift store find. It has the 14.99 written on it in crayon
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How much does Bonk and Battle Ace go for here??
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I've only found a Keith courage card in a legendary axe case, I have to bring it home.
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How much does Bonk and Battle Ace go for here??
battle ace is $10 tops
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my friend just posted this on his fb wall today. SMDH @ Goodwill, what a joke! he said there were plenty of SNES RPGs there, all for ebay+ prices.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559690_10100488010929201_1968557955_n.jpg)
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my friend just posted this on his fb wall today. SMDH @ Goodwill, what a joke! he said there were plenty of SNES RPGs there, all for ebay+ prices.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559690_10100488010929201_1968557955_n.jpg)
On cases like this, really the store needs to be publicly shammed. This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance, but if enough people tie up their phone line for a week, that still affects their ability to run well.
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5% off for the gamer living in a van down by the river. :lol:
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Can Goodwill get away with this??
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Goodwill is becoming the next Value Village. Horrible and over priced.
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Can Goodwill get away with this??
I think they can cause somebody is always a sucker and will buy it.
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On cases like this, really the store needs to be publicly shammed. This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance, but if enough people tie up their phone line for a week, that still affects their ability to run well.
FWIW: the location information is as follows:
Goodwill Store & Donation Center
746 S. Rand Road
Lake Zurich, IL 60047
(847) 550-0769
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My goodwill in CT is posting this shit... http://hartford.craigslist.org/vgm/3617045160.html
WTF?! I called them out on it too... and the bastard had audacity to tell me that "that's what it's going for on the ebay". FML... i'll never find anything there again.
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makes you wanna steal it from the store :twisted: heh someone gave it to them so they deserve it :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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My goodwill in CT is posting this shit... http://hartford.craigslist.org/vgm/3617045160.html
WTF?! I called them out on it too... and the bastard had audacity to tell me that "that's what it's going for on the ebay". FML... i'll never find anything there again.
This is all because jerk offs get jobs there to have a jump on the incoming inventory. Once it reaches a few weeks, the employees can buy it. So these people are gouging the games hoping that nobody buys them. At least this was my understanding of it.
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On cases like this, really the store needs to be publicly shammed. This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance, but if enough people tie up their phone line for a week, that still affects their ability to run well.
makes you wanna steal it from the store :twisted: heh someone gave it to them so they deserve it :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Wow. f*cking Wow. Lets advocate harassing or stealing from a charity because we disagree with their pricing structure! What a bunch of self-deserving pricks in this thread.
Is that high for Chrono Trigger? Sure. But I can assume whoever donated this item would far rather have Goodwill Industries get over fair-market value for this item, with the money going back into actual charity, than to see one of you SCORE BIG TIME and the charity gets a measly $5 to help employ, train, and work with those in need of employment and workforce skills.
Yeah, its nice when you can score a cheap game at a charity shop. That, however, by no means ENTITLES you to get it for cheap. It also gives you no right to f*cking harass or steal from them.
I'm glad your need for cheap Chrono Trigger outweighs the needs of "people who have a disability, lack education or job experience, or face employment challenges. "
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I was being sarcastic dude.....
But heh it's NOT ok in my books for a "non profit" to rip people off
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I was being sarcastic dude.....
But heh it's NOT ok in my books for a "non profit" to rip people off
... Wow. "I was sarcastic... but...." The moment you say "but," it throws away everything you said previously. You meant it, and now are just trying to back-peddle. (I wish I could find the comedian who did a great sketch on this.)
And a charity, by definition, can't rip you off. You could actually deduct the difference in price at Goodwill and FMV, and cite it as a charitable contribution. (http://www.ehow.com/info_8151274_auction-items-charity-event-deductible.html) I'm not saying anyone is actually going to write-off $20 on Chrono Trigger on their taxes. My point is, you can consider "overpaying" as a charitable contribution, as even the IRS does.
You highlight "non-profit." That doesn't mean they shouldn't maximize the income coming in for ACTUAL CHARITY, just that the majority of income must be spent for the betterment of society. I should note, getting Chrono Trigger for cheap does not count towards the betterment of society.
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honest question: Because their profits go to charity, does that mean they are above criticism?
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Can Battle Ace be played on the PC Engine?
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... Wow. "I was sarcastic... but...." The moment you say "but," it throws away everything you said previously. You meant it, and now are just trying to back-peddle. (I wish I could find the comedian who did a great sketch on this.)
And a charity, by definition, can't rip you off. You could actually deduct the difference in price at Goodwill and FMV, and cite it as a charitable contribution. (http://www.ehow.com/info_8151274_auction-items-charity-event-deductible.html) I'm not saying anyone is actually going to write-off $20 on Chrono Trigger on their taxes. My point is, you can consider "overpaying" as a charitable contribution, as even the IRS does.
You highlight "non-profit." That doesn't mean they shouldn't maximize the income coming in for ACTUAL CHARITY, just that the majority of income must be spent for the betterment of society. I should note, getting Chrono Trigger for cheap does not count towards the betterment of society.
I actually caught Punkic's sarcasm in his post. I doubt many people would encourage the theft of items from a Goodwill store.
As far as maximizing income for actual charity, wouldn't charity be served quicker if an item was sold for a decent amount of money rather than sitting on the shelf with a high price tag? Even if they asked $40 for Chrono Trigger, they'd make a good sale compared to the many, many outdated Madden and NBA2K games they're selling for five or six bucks each.
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As far as maximizing income for actual charity, wouldn't charity be served quicker if an item was sold for a decent amount of money rather than sitting on the shelf with a high price tag? Even if they asked $40 for Chrono Trigger, they'd make a good sale compared to the many, many outdated Madden and NBA2K games they're selling for five or six bucks each.
someone buy this wo/man a drink :clap:
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You highlight "non-profit." That doesn't mean they shouldn't maximize the income coming in for ACTUAL CHARITY, just that the majority of income must be spent for the betterment of society. I should note, getting Chrono Trigger for cheap does not count towards the betterment of society.
How is helping the CHARITY when it sits unsold because of a ridiculous price? Yeah thought so. As stated above selling it a "normal" price would actually help it sell, and then the CHARITY GETS $, pretty simple
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If you ever buy anything at shopgoodwill auction site you get ripped off so bad over shipping. I've even emailed them about ridiculous shipping prices. I won a vintage watch for $10, was $10 shipping and $3 handling making it $23. The actual shipping price was $3.49 from usps. It was in a bubble mailer. I don't care if it's a non profit or not they were padding their profits with the shipping.
And DK lighten up man.... jesus christ I wouldn't steal from a thrift store..... In fact I donate a TON of stuff to them regularly. In fact I have a box I keep for stuff to go to the thrift constantly.
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someone buy this wo/man a drink :clap:
Just a 30something guy who would appreciate a tall glass of chocolate milk with a side of crinkle cut French fries, sprinkled with seasoned salt. :D
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I partly agree with DK, in that this is a middle-class discussion, and gaming is a luxury anyway.
But the ebay argument that Goodwill employees use is indefensible. People selling things on ebay had bought them originally and want a return on their investment. Goodwill got whatever items for FREE.
How about this: when donating a game (in its box with instruction manual (of course, you slobs!)) to Goodwill, just insert a small sheet of paper in between the pages of the manual that says "IF YOU PAID MORE THAN $20.00 FOR THIS GAME YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF! I DONATED IT FOR FREE."
You can fix it in there with tape or Post-it glue so nobody notices it until they buy the game and unbox it.
It's just a small bit of culture-jamming.
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On cases like this, really the store needs to be publicly shammed. This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance, but if enough people tie up their phone line for a week, that still affects their ability to run well.
makes you wanna steal it from the store :twisted: heh someone gave it to them so they deserve it :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Wow. f*cking Wow. Lets advocate harassing or stealing from a charity because we disagree with their pricing structure! What a bunch of self-deserving pricks in this thread.
Ah shaddup!
(P.S. Did Dickki mean "self-serving" there ? Never heard of self-deserving...)
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Evidently DickfaceTAS missed the fact that the items being donated were supposed to be made available back out to the community at an affordable price to help better the community itself, helping give people access to items they would not otherwise be able to afford, while taking the proceeds they make and putting whats left over after covering operating expenses towards education and employment programs and helping the needy.
Goodwill stores are not just supposed to be there as a pure profit making mechanism. The issue is though that now Goodwill has been restructuring and changing their management and worker mentality, and their sales ethics have gone to shit. Where as you used to have like their clearance centers that charge by the pound on some items, they would be organized and clean. However the one I visited had the bins being a disorganized mess, and many of them had dangerous items in them like busted camcorders, expired and leaking batteries, and broken glass and other sharp objects making it unsafe to look for items.
Between that, the constant gouging of items prices int he normal stores, not just including the video game related ones mind you, it has just gotten to be a pretty bad situation in general. People who could, and can afford the "luxury" items no longer will buy them due to the jacked up price, and people in need, on low incomes, poor, homeless, blah blah blah, who actually need the other items like kitchenware, clothing, etc, can no longer afford the hiked up prices either because now they price obviously used items at close to new retail prices. Anymore dealing with Goodwill now is like dealing with a hoarder who is forced into holding a garage sale, not wanting to let go of anything, so they are pricing everything for more then anyone would ever normally be willing to pay unless they simply don't know better.
What they don't realize is eventually this will run them into the ground. Their main customer base is mostly made up of people in need of affordable used items. These same people can always buy used clothes elsewhere, like on ebay itself, Salvation Army, Savers, yard sales, etc. Burning bridges with your main customer base will just make you in turn jack up prices higher to try to compensate for lost business, and the more they do that, the more customers they will lose until heads finally roll in management and a new price restructuring takes place. I guess it would take a totally moronic a$$hole like DickfaceTAS to miss the point of all of this though.
Also, notice the sudden rise in complaints over the past couple of years?
http://www.ripoffreport.com/directory/goodwill-industries.aspx
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Totally uncool DK. Maybe if you spent more time actually conversing with this community, instead of attacking it, you would understand more of where we are coming from. Everyone else has already basically said what I was going to say. But I will add, what you are referring to is the DAV, where the funds go towards disabled vets.
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Wow. f*cking Wow. Lets advocate harassing or stealing from a charity because we disagree with their pricing structure! What a bunch of self-deserving pricks in this thread.
Go f*ck yourself.
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Has anyone actually looked at whether or not Goodwill is what would be traditionally defined as a non-profit? Sure, they meet the IRS standards, but are they really a model of ethics? Has anyone every paid at the checkout and been asked to donate the difference in their bill that is rounded up (i.e. your bill is 5.65, round it up to $6 even) to their "job training program"? I thought that the money I was paying WAS my donation. Unlike other thrift stores or charities, Goodwill gets 100% of their product from donations. Several other places will buy items, albeit a very low price, and then sell them along side the donated goods. Does this request for an extra amount bother anyone else? It sure irks me.
What is Goodwill's mission? They employ people who would otherwise have a tough time finding work. Felons, Mentally ill, etc. Well guess what else they do? They also get loads and loads of community service workers. FREE workers. I alone have had my probationers assigned there for thousands and thousands of community service hours. So they use their non-profit status to pay felons a shitty wage AND get free labor. Anyone look to see how much their corporate/HR people pay themselves?
I'm a capitalist. I believe in free market. As such, I choose to not give ANY business to Goodwill. I no longer donate to them and I no longer shop there. This "thrift" store has become a retail store and, to me, is a complete breach of non-profit ethics.
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For starters, I should say, I think some of you meant "hyperbole." PunknicCyborg was using hyperbole. Sarcasm makes no sense in that context. I'm pretty sure NightWolve will accuse me of making up words again.
Blah blah blah blah....
Ten seconds of research shows you pulled a bunch of shit out of your morbidly-obese ass.
http://www.goodwill.org/about-us/our-mission/
Nowhere on their site do they state that their mission is to provide stuff back to the community at cheap prices. You made that bullshit up. Not surprising, really, you seem incapable of making arguments based in reality. In fact, in their FAQ:
If I shop at a Goodwill store, will I be depriving disadvantaged people of stuff they need?
No. Goodwill serves disadvantaged people by educating, training and placing them into jobs. By becoming gainfully employed, these individuals gain resources to buy the things they need. Many disadvantaged people who are in training or are employed by Goodwill Industries are offered vouchers or discounts at Goodwill retail stores.
Stop making bullshit up.
Also, this: http://www.goodwill.org/about-us/our-mission/member-goodwills/
Member Goodwills are independent, community-based organizations, governed by local boards of directors.
Your problems with goodwill are regional, as they are all independent entities.
Finally, oh teh noes! People on the interwebs filing "complaints!"
I should note, NONE of your pathetic, poorly-researched arguments somehow make it morally-right to harass a charity. You fail, FattyFatterson. Maybe you could spend ten seconds between shoveling cheetos into your mouth to do research. Or, go back to punching bell-ringing Santas because they annoy you... if you can get out of your rascal scooter.
(P.S. Did Dickki mean "self-serving" there ? Never heard of self-deserving...)
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-deserving
I'm sorry you are poorly educated, and can't use google.
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Seriously, do you contribute ANYTHING to this site besides MASSIVE overuse of links to "prove" your points, as you are incapable of doing it on your own?
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I wouldnt mind punching a bell ringing Santa.. They get on my damn nerves...
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Seriously, do you contribute ANYTHING to this site besides MASSIVE overuse of links to "prove" your points, as you are incapable of doing it on your own?
Its the academic style. If you don't reference what you are saying, you could just being making stuff up. No one can "prove" a point on their own, you need outside references.
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Im still wanting to punch a Santa....
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-deserving
I'm sorry you are poorly educated, and can't use google.
You'll note that the only definition given is for 'deserving', as 'self-deserving' does not have an entry. It also isn't found in the Merriam-Webster, Cambridge, or Oxford dictionaries, you stupid shit.
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a bunch of obnoxious bullshit
Because you clearly dont even read the shit you find on your own links, or dig around enough to get complete info:
http://www.goodwill.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/QandA.pdf
How does Goodwill help the environment?
Goodwill is an entrepreneurial leader, environmental pioneer and social innovator of the “reduce, reuse, re-purpose” practice, and it creates jobs in emerging industries. Entrepreneurial: Through its entrepreneurial business model of collecting and selling donated goods, Goodwill helps communities re-purpose usable items in environmentally sound ways and prevents the items from piling up in local land-fills.
Environmentally Conscious:
Goodwill’s process of selling and reusing used goods creates thousands of jobs and millions in revenues that fund job training programs in communities across the United States and Canada. It’s an environmentally sound process and, at the same time, a sound investment in the economic health of your community.
http://www.goodwillakron.org/about/environmental/what-happens-to-your-donations
First, we sort items to determine if they are sellable at our Retail Stores. Sixty percent of donations make it to our store shelves, where they are sold to shoppers looking for quality items at affordable prices. When an item doesn’t sell in the stores, we try to sell it a second time in our Outlet Store at a significant discount.
For those items that just don’t sell, they are put into our salvage stream where they are either sold to textile and other recyclers. For those donations that do not meet our quality standards, they too, end up in our salvage stream. If the item cannot be salvaged, it might be recycled in some other way. For example, if Goodwill has extra dishes or glassware, it “trades” another nonprofit organization in the community for that organization’s extra clothing or household items. Unfortunately some items must be disposed of. Through this process of reselling goods and recycling, Goodwill organizations across the country have diverted billions of used clothes and other goods from landfills. Plus, nationally, Goodwill has earned hundreds of millions of dollars by selling to salvage vendors – dollars that help people find jobs to our community.
http://lookingflyonadime.com/are-thrift-stores-becoming-too-expensive-part-two/
And if you care to read, you can see here where Goodwill responds to a question about the increasing price hikes at their stores by totally ignoring the question all together and just re-quoting their old mission statement diatribe.
http://ecorporateoffices.com/GoodwillIndustries-937
And again DIckFaceTAS, you can read here about the 1.7 out of 5 that Goodwill now maintains, with multiple reviews from both everyday customers and disgruntled employees both of whom are not pleased with the direction Goodwill is now going in.
The big difference here though between you DickfaceTAS and me is that I didn't have to actually look all this shit up on the net to know it. I have known Goodwill employees before on a first name basis due to being a regular, and have frequented many of their stores over the years for games and other electronic items. Being in the stores, all you have to do is open your ears and you can hear complaints from both employees and other customers about the current situation. But hey, I guess if you're just some dick face with some plain as day social disorder and total lack of empathy, whose only care in the world is cheat runs and Turbografx 16 ebay profits though, then pretty much all of this is way out of your ability to grasp anyway, so reading any of the above wont matter for you.
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Its the academic style. If you don't reference what you are saying, you could just being making stuff up. No one can "prove" a point on their own, you need outside references.
Academic, you say? That's interesting:
Ten seconds of research shows you pulled a bunch of shit out of your morbidly-obese ass.
Yes. Because this is clearly how academics discuss things!
I can see it now: "Professor, I disagree with your hypothesis about string theory!"
OH YEAH? WELL YOU'RE f*ckING FAT AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT YOU'RE STUPID AND WRONG. I GOOGLED IT, YOU IDIOT.
Yeah. That's how science works.
Now, moving along here:
If I shop at a Goodwill store, will I be depriving disadvantaged people of stuff they need?
No. Goodwill serves disadvantaged people by educating, training and placing them into jobs. By becoming gainfully employed, these individuals gain resources to buy the things they need. Many disadvantaged people who are in training or are employed by Goodwill Industries are offered vouchers or discounts at Goodwill retail stores.
You see that voucher/discount thing? Employees take advantage of that, buy things, and resell. It's like creating your own raise. You have to understand that some people are disadvantaged because they make poor life choices and are shady. That's how they got where they are. Not ALL people are like this. Some are. Goodwill, and most thrift stores, employ both kinds.
The rise of eBay and online sales has resulted in places like Goodwill now having online auctions. They use that as their price maker instead of just having generic pricing schemes that they made up on a computer in the back room and printed out and taped to the wall.
You used to be able to get games for 2$ regardless of what they were. I got a sealed Ultima VII for DOS. 5$. I didn't resell it. I opened the f*cker up and stared at the cloth map and installed that shit.
They have employees wheelin' and dealin' all the retro stuff right out of the back because it's the "in thing" now and they have first dibs on all of it.
I got someone fired from a thrift store, and made some people I went to highschool with look like a bunch of total f*ck ups because of this.
It's story time:
I know two people who are "vintage game collectors". Read: They buy things, have no clue about any of it, don't play any of it, and then use eBay to price/resell the stuff for money. That's it. It's strictly for money. Morons.
Then, they wonder why I make fun of them when they start with the inept knowledge on the subject. Confusing Amiga and Atari computers is hilariously pathetic if you claim to be a collector.
Well, anyway, they have a friend who worked at a local thrift shop. He called them up and was like yo, there's some legit items here. I can hold them from going on the floor and sell them to you before they are processed (Read: I will steal these from the store, sell them to you out of the back door, and pocket all of the money).
So they post this on Facebook (they almost always post their finds to brag about, which I then have to correct them on since they never have their information right), like total winners. It was like a moral dilemma:
"Should we buy all these sweet old consoles cheap straight from our friend, or wait for them to hit the floor and buy them the fair way, but at a higher price?! Anyone have any advice?"
I said "How can you honestly debate this? Should you steal from charity and promote employee theft OR should you be a legitimate customer? Are you that stupid?"
Then I screenshotted it all and laughed my ass off.
It was really stupid. How anyone could actually question that is beyond me. You'd have to be a real pile of shit to do that. When you selfishly put your own side-money maker ahead of charity, you suck at life and should never go outside, ever.
Not to mention, those people are hosing charity AND f*cking up the game collection stuff for those of us that actually play and enjoy the stuff.
I can't get an Apple IIe at a fair price because Steve Jobs died and it's cool for all the hipster retards to sell the stuff for $$$$$s in honor of their fallen cult leader.
Finally, oh teh noes! People on the interwebs filing "complaints!"
I should note, NONE of your pathetic, poorly-researched arguments somehow make it morally-right to harass a charity.
It's morally right to harass anything that is doing shady shit. Many thrift stores now employee shady practices because the people employed are shady. Because they're regional, these sort of things can slip throuh the cracks.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to get a charity back on track.
I mean, what if the charity was stealing from Walmart and reselling everything cheaper "for chairty"?
Some things need to be pressed to be fixed.
You fail, FattyFatterson. Maybe you could spend ten seconds between shoveling cheetos into your mouth to do research. Or, go back to punching bell-ringing Santas because they annoy you... if you can get out of your rascal scooter.
How about you come back when you want to try getting your shitty point across without using fat-jokes that a 3rd grader doesn't even find funny?
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Seriously, do you contribute ANYTHING to this site besides MASSIVE overuse of links to "prove" your points, as you are incapable of doing it on your own?
Its the academic style. If you don't reference what you are saying, you could just being making stuff up. No one can "prove" a point on their own, you need outside references.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebag
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ferengi
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=showPosts
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=statPanel
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I just don't buy from Goodwill and Salvation Army frequently because I would rather support local thrifts.
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Bernie,
1. YES punch a Santa
2. Upload to YouTube
3. I will reference it in ever post - annoyingly as such
www.youtube.com/berniepunchingasantaismuchbetterthantheshitgoingoninthisthreadstartedbydkwhocantjustshutupandletarantbearantforthesakeofrant (http://www.youtube.com/berniepunchingasantaismuchbetterthantheshitgoingoninthisthreadstartedbydkwhocantjustshutupandletarantbearantforthesakeofrant)
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this is bullshit!
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I'm pretty sure NightWolve will accuse me of making up words again.
Questioning yes, in that case, but accusation, not quite... What I have accused you of is being some type of limited purpose account that exists primarily to heckle/harass the Gouging thread (which probably had a lot to do with why you registered here) and anti-gouging/profiteering sentiment elsewhere (this being one of those times), though. So goes the theory, anyway. Lately, you have diversified your posts, so it'd be a harder case to make, but yeah, that's what I thought. Whatever the case, you don't seem to go away despite being mostly unwanted (with exceptions say for Nintega, nullity, and lukester) and I find it very unfortunate that we're, I guess, stuck with you for the foreseeable future...
(P.S. Did Dickki mean "self-serving" there ? Never heard of self-deserving...)
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-deserving
I'm sorry you are poorly educated, and can't use google.
Did this exchange prove that I am poorly educated and can't use Google or did it prove that you're arrogant and wildly/falsely generalize based on a simple question ?
I was genuinely curious because I've never seen 'deserving' prefixed with 'self', so I actually DID google it prior to posting my question! Go figure, huh? The first link that came up was of Dictionary.com, but it'd chop off the prefix and simply define 'deserving':
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-deserving
So then I looked up the word that I thought you probably meant to say which sounded more appropriate given the context and your usual bitch ass attitude ever since you got here ("You're all a bunch of self-serving pricks that want the cheapest possible price! RAWWWR!"), 'self-serving':
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-serving
In that case, there is a difference in behavior, it actually DOES show me a definition for it! Necromancer already beat me to the punch on that, but still, it doesn't make it outright wrong because pre-pending such a prefix is technically legal and documents come up using it, it's just rare and was the first I had seen it used with deserving. Also, while the other dictionaries refuse to give you anything for it, Dictionary.com does list it as an adjective, actually. Nonetheless, the question was still legitimate, which word you meant to use (self-deserving v. self-serving) as both would work given the context and just because I never heard of "self-deserving," didn't mean I was denying that it could be a legitimate prefix-base combo - I wasn't sure and the online dictionaries didn't make it conclusive given what I mentioned.
Anyway, to reiterate the short and simple message that I had: Ah, shaddup! Or, better yet, STFU!
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Good post....
Honestly, I'm not an English major, so I'm no expert on these things. However, since it is a hyphenated prefix, I believe it can basically attached to nearly any noun or verb, so long as it makes sense. "Self-serving" really doesn't portray entitlement, which was my intent. Additionally, I made kind of a rude swipe, but given that you insulted me, I felt that it should be met in kind.
And yeah, I may be a total arrogant cunt, a dirtball reseller, but I'm not advocating the harassment of a charity, because they price things higher than I want to pay. Look, Arkhan raised a good point, if people are acting unethically, then you should act. Pricing things above FMV is not unethical, nor is it worthy of (poorly) attempting a harassment campaign against said charity.
Besides, cheap video games are out there, if you put in the effort. If Goodwill isn't pricing things in a way that is good for you, don't go there, instead of harassing them. And, in response to shabba, no, when you buy something from goodwill at or below FMV, it is in NO WAY a donation. The donation is purely from the side of the people providing the goods (and can be written off). Otherwise, you could write-off your Goodwill purchases on your taxes. You can't, unless you paid above FMV, like I noted before.
As an aside, I believe that the reason shopgoodwill's prices are often higher than ebay's, is that there are resellers who are buying from them. They then write off the entire donation as a charitable contribution, which would recover large amounts of the up-front costs. It would not survive an audit, so these people are gambling on never getting audited.
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Honestly, I'm not an English major, so I'm no expert on these things. However, since it is a hyphenated prefix, I believe it can basically attached to nearly any noun or verb, so long as it makes sense. "Self-serving" really doesn't portray entitlement, which was my intent.
Then quit acting like one.
Additionally, I made kind of a rude swipe, but given that you insulted me, I felt that it should be met in kind.
What happened to academics?
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Pricing things above FMV is not unethical....
Coming from you, that sounds even worse then what it already reads off as.
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Considering DickfaceTAS hasn't even seen me before I thought it was pretty funny he was calling me fattymcfattysumthin or wtf ever it was, like some 5 year old brat in kindergarten. I guess in his case though, when you got nuthin else to go on, its best to just knock someones generosity in a sale thread, then call him some childish name in another. I guess next he will call me "stupid fat head" or something similar. Skies the limit with that clown.
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DickfaceTAS ... like some 5 year old brat in kindergarten.
The irony is ASTOUNDING!
ProfessorProfessorson: Advocating harassing charities since 2013!
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I think that it's time to take this tangent of the thread to Fighting Street.
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I think that it's time to take this tangent of the thread to Fighting Street.
Agreed.
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Ok, Take all your BS outside
I don't want it in here
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DickfaceTAS ... like some 5 year old brat in kindergarten.
The irony is ASTOUNDING!
ProfessorProfessorson: Advocating harassing charities since 2013!
And in actuality, what I suggested was :
On cases like this, really the store needs to be publicly shammed. This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance, but if enough people tie up their phone line for a week, that still affects their ability to run well.
And yet again you cant read for shit. I never said harass. I said complain. Since the matter is legit, it is worth complaining about. Enough people complain, it may bring about some change in their pricing policy because it has disrupted their way of doing business to some degree. You know, like a group of people picketing the front parking lot of a business over their harsh work environment or treatment of minorities? Disrupting business gets results because they take notice. It would take a total dumb f*ck like you though to confuse the meaning of "complain" and "harass" I guess. So for that, congrats, for being a moronic f*ck face and all. I salute you. In being such a constant disappointment around here, you never fail to lower the bar just a little more each time you post.
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*Disclaimer: I mentally picture everyone on the internet as the person in this photo unless they have otherwise posted a photo in the chit-chat thread. I have no photo in that thread, so this is how I picture myself, too. The posting of this photo in no way should be construed as my support for any of the warring factions in this thread, nor as an endorsement or condemnation of public wheel-based consumption of cheese products regardless of hat orientation.
Best disclaimer ever. :)
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This means post the address and phone number and have multiple people call in to complain. It may only cause severe annoyance... I never said harass.
What the f*ck do you think harassment is? Just because you didn't CALL it harassment doesn't mean it isn't harassment. "I said punch her in the face, not abuse her! How dare you call it abuse!" Calling with the intent to annoy is harassment.
Since the matter is legit,
Overpriced Chrono Trigger is not legitimate.
being a moronic f*ck face and all.
like some 5 year old brat in kindergarten ... then call him some childish name...
Hahaha, I love how you can continue to call me names, while whining about me calling you names 3 posts up. It is hilarious, you have no issue with that level of cognitive dissonance. :)
Also, paying a forum member 1/10th of FMV, just because he confused the PCEngine price is so generous, my head might explode.
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I've constantly got shit coming out of my mouth and no one cares....
Yeah we know about all that and all already. Anyway, get out of dudes thread already. You want to carry this crap of yours on, here:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=14265.0
I make no promises of any replies however, so don't be surprised if everyone, not just myself, just simply ignores you scammer.
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Calling with the intent to annoy is harassment.
So now you're also a psychic? Knowing how people will act/what they will say? I know YOU may have a problem making an intelligent/respectful phone call calmly explaining something.....you know without being able to send a link thru the phone to help show what you mean and all.
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Ok, Take all your BS outside
I don't want it in here
*digs through pages of trolling*
Can Battle Ace be played on the PC Engine?
Nope, Battle Ace is Supergrafx only.
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*Disclaimer: I mentally picture everyone on the internet as the person in this photo unless they have otherwise posted a photo in the chit-chat thread. I have no photo in that thread, so this is how I picture myself, too. The posting of this photo in no way should be construed as my support for any of the warring factions in this thread, nor as an endorsement or condemnation of public wheel-based consumption of cheese products regardless of hat orientation.
Best disclaimer ever. :)
Not cool nullity. I have been trying to lose the weight for over a year now, but the cheese is soooooo good. We all have our struggles man. No need to remind me.
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Not cool nullity. I have been trying to lose the weight for over a year now, but the cheese is soooooo good. We all have our struggles man. No need to remind me.
Atkin's, brothah!
Isn't he dead? How did his diet work out for him? :)
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Seriously, do you contribute ANYTHING to this site besides MASSIVE overuse of links to "prove" your points, as you are incapable of doing it on your own?
Its the academic style. If you don't reference what you are saying, you could just being making stuff up. No one can "prove" a point on their own, you need outside references.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebag
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ferengi
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=showPosts
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=statPanel
Man i have been busy lately and just catching up... And oh ya... Hahahahaha
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Seriously, do you contribute ANYTHING to this site besides MASSIVE overuse of links to "prove" your points, as you are incapable of doing it on your own?
Its the academic style. If you don't reference what you are saying, you could just being making stuff up. No one can "prove" a point on their own, you need outside references.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebag
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ferengi
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=showPosts
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4449;sa=statPanel
Man i have been busy lately and just catching up... And oh ya... Hahahahaha
It gets alot more interesting in this thread:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=14265.0
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STATUS: Can someone provide an executive summary of why Professor is having a meltdown in this thread? I don't have the time to read through the inanity right now. Thanks in advance. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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STATUS: Can someone provide an executive summary of why Professor is having a meltdown in this thread? I don't have the time to read through the inanity right now. Thanks in advance. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
I think you confused who was actually having a melt down here. Instead of bumping up drama about two weeks later after it had died down, expecting someone to give you a basic play by play, just read it, or don't and move on. The OP requested the fun be taken elsewhere, and it was, and if you'd have taken the time to actually read it, you'd have seen that, along with DK's actual meltdown, as it were.
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esteban-
darkkobold is a douche
/end thread
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STATUS: Can someone provide an executive summary of why Professor is having a meltdown in this thread? I don't have the time to read through the inanity right now. Thanks in advance. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
I think you confused who was actually having a melt down here. Instead of bumping up drama about two weeks later after it had died down, expecting someone to give you a basic play by play, just read it, or don't and move on. The OP requested the fun be taken elsewhere, and it was, and if you'd have taken the time to actually read it, you'd have seen that, along with DK's actual meltdown, as it were.
Ha! I was messing around. Nothing like poking at the ashen debris of a once-searing flame war. Surely, you understand this (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png).
However, you're correct: I should have been more sensitive about it. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
STATUS: In my defense, I was delirious when I made my initial post because I realized I couldn't achieve my OCD-fueled goal of reading LITERALLY every post I missed in the past month. THAT SAID, I CONCEDE that I shouldn't have stirred the embers (or, ashes, as it were). (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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Esteban.. you silly goose!! (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120314220557/southpark/images/thumb/f/f8/Bigayal.png/200px-Bigayal.png)
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Esteban.. you silly goose!! (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120314220557/southpark/images/thumb/f/f8/Bigayal.png/200px-Bigayal.png)
This in now one of my favorite posts. The level of absurdity has reached a new ... level here. :D
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