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Title: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on April 05, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Microsoft has made it clear that they consider you a drone and intend to control how you enjoy video games.
If Microsoft does a 180 and decides this isn't such a good idea then fine. But, if they do not listen and continue their arrogance vote with your wallets and pocketbooks.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Tatsujin on April 05, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
I never buy a M$ console, but then again who even cares. le turbo is where its at :D
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: futureman2000 on April 05, 2013, 04:20:37 PM
No M$, and no Sorny either
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on April 05, 2013, 04:22:59 PM
I'll give Sony credit for changing their minds and doing the sensible thing by reversing their decision to disallow used games.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Bardoly on April 05, 2013, 04:34:00 PM
I have never purchased a Microsoft console or a Sony console, and I doubt that I will anytime soon.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: thesteve on April 05, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
i chose not to buy any new systems the games are far too expensive and lacking in the fun department further i wont be getting a win7/win8 phone unless it gets cracked wide open like the win mobile6 series
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 05, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
I didn't watch any of these videos.
I sure as f*ck didn't watch this one:
(http://s420144560.onlinehome.us/tg_images/Screen Shot 2013-04-06 at 1.15.41 AM.png)
But regarding the issue at hand, here's the deal. These new consoles are bullshit. They offer nothing substantially new from the current gen. Honestly, games in general have changed very little since the Dreamcast, well over a decade ago, except in the departments of sound and graphics. Game design annoys the shit out of my now. The scene is dominated by me-too fps crap and brown-ass time vampire western RPGs and everything has a f*cking BOOK WORTH of boring frustrating long-winded tutorial. If I actually had an Xbox 720 or a PS4 you couldn't PAY ME to play the f*cker and this is the truth. I barely touch my PS3 and as it is, and that thing is powerful enough to give me every gameplay experience I'd ever want (most recent purchase: league bowling, a game I already own on MVS).
If you are going to boycott these idiot boxes, do it for reasons like mine, or just cave now and preorder the thing. The whole "blocking used games" thing, guess what, they aren't going to do it. Sony didn't "reverse their decision" they never made that decision. As long as you think you win you'll buy the dumb thing. Its the same reason why the federal government lets rednecks keep their guns; as long as they have them they are pacified and will exercise their FREEDOM...to go to work, pay their taxes, sit on their asses and not do anything to change the status quo.
"You are free...to do as we tell you." - Bill Hicks.
By "making demands" like this you are effectively promising to buy the thing because your demands have already been met. They are laughing their ass off at your activism. You are being played.
Sorry to break the news, but its the truth.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on April 05, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
For modern stuff I only game on pc. I have a lot more control that way along with a wider selection of games, and the hardware is far far better.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: vestcoat on April 05, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
I like Francis Rages, but I can't watch anything that guy in the bottom link does for more than 0.02 of a second. And I can't understand why anyone cares about anything modern consoles do.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: TR0N on April 05, 2013, 10:03:19 PM
AlphaOmegaSin rant on it :-"
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: retroguy on April 06, 2013, 01:19:04 AM
Yeah, I love that guy. Nobody rants better than he does. The only reason I have a 360 is because a friend of mine gave me his old one that wasn't working and said I could keep it if I could fix it, which I did after lots of youtube and google searches to figure out what was wrong with it. I never would have bought one, but I wasn't gonna turn down a free one. I haven't taken it online once since I got it and aside from downloading games from XBLA, I have no intention of taking it online. I never liked MS as a gaming company because when the original Xbox came out, they all acted like arrogant pricks and talked as if they knew the business better than the companies who'd been in it for years. Not the best way to make a good first impression. I hope the new system fails so hard that "Xbox" becomes a synonym for epic failure (as in "North Korea tried to bomb the US and got their ass kicked? That's some Xbox level shit there, man.").
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: FiftyQuid on April 06, 2013, 02:20:45 AM
I'll take a look at the PS4 when it comes out. I'm a Sony fanboy so I can't help it. I own two PS3's, and a 3rd broken one. All of them are the fat design. I dislike the Slim and Super Slim. Actually bought a Slim and returned it the next day for reasons I won't go into here.
Microsoft can bite my ass though.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Bernie on April 06, 2013, 03:40:20 AM
I love my Xbox 360, but if this shit takes place. I wont buy it. I do have to say this though, Zeta makes sense. It most likely IS some freaking marketing scheme.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on April 06, 2013, 03:43:05 AM
I love my Xbox 360, but if this shit takes place. I wont buy it. I do have to say this though, Zeta makes sense. It most likely IS some freaking marketing scheme.
I agree with what Zeta says myself. If there is something larger going on here it wouldn't surprise me. In the meantime, my wallet will be happy. :)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: retroguy on April 06, 2013, 03:54:01 AM
If this is just a marketing scheme, I would like to think that it would backfire and people still wouldn't buy the thing, but I suppose that would be too much to hope for.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Bernie on April 06, 2013, 04:32:11 AM
If its true I won't buy. If its bullshit, I will buy because I actually enjoy my Xbox. :). I normally wait at least a year before buying new consoles however.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: mac on April 06, 2013, 04:44:16 AM
I enjoy my xbox and 360 but will def not purchase any console or PC game that requires me to stay online or not play used games. Beside that bought a WiiU and told my wife that it will be the last home console I purchase unless nintendo,Sega,Nec release another :)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Tatsujin on April 06, 2013, 04:53:16 AM
(http://s420144560.onlinehome.us/tg_images/Screen Shot 2013-04-06 at 1.15.41 AM.png)
But regarding the issue at hand, here's the deal. These new consoles are bullshit. They offer nothing substantially new from the current gen. Honestly, games in general have changed very little since the Dreamcast, well over a decade ago, except in the departments of sound and graphics. Game design annoys the shit out of my now. The scene is dominated by me-too fps crap and brown-ass time vampire western RPGs and everything has a f*cking BOOK WORTH of boring frustrating long-winded tutorial. If I actually had an Xbox 720 or a PS4 you couldn't PAY ME to play the f*cker and this is the truth. I barely touch my PS3 and as it is, and that thing is powerful enough to give me every gameplay experience I'd ever want (most recent purchase: league bowling, a game I already own on MVS).
If you are going to boycott these idiot boxes, do it for reasons like mine, or just cave now and preorder the thing. The whole "blocking used games" thing, guess what, they aren't going to do it. Sony didn't "reverse their decision" they never made that decision. As long as you think you win you'll buy the dumb thing. Its the same reason why the federal government lets rednecks keep their guns; as long as they have them they are pacified and will exercise their FREEDOM...to go to work, pay their taxes, sit on their asses and not do anything to change the status quo.
"You are free...to do as we tell you." - Bill Hicks.
By "making demands" like this you are effectively promising to buy the thing because your demands have already been met. They are laughing their ass off at your activism. You are being played.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: KingDrool on April 06, 2013, 07:32:15 AM
Long before this rumor started, I had already made my decision that for the first time since the 16-bit days, I won't be buying all the consoles. I'm sticking with Nintendo since they release games I like to play, and I'll probably go for some sort of Steambox scenario. Zeta's right: these new boxes offer nothing new in terms of game experiences. What they really offer is making a more sophisticated set-top-box/social media experience. And I don't give a damn about that.
But this "always on" nonsense assures that in ten years, all the games you bought will be useless. Sounds like a great investment to me!
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Flare65 on April 06, 2013, 09:26:03 AM
For modern stuff I only game on pc. I have a lot more control that way along with a wider selection of games, and the hardware is far far better.
Totally agree.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on April 06, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
It makes me happy to no end that we still have our 8 and 16 Bit consoles around to love and enjoy. Regardless of where the video game industry heads we can all still go back to the consoles that really matter.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: MrFlutterPie on April 06, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
It makes me happy to no end that we still have our 8 and 16 Bit consoles around to love and enjoy. Regardless of where the video game industry heads we can all still go back to the consoles that really matter.
I agree 100%
I only touch modern Nintendo brand handhelds now a day. I love my 3DS.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: TheClash603 on April 06, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
The only thing I don't like is that internet technology isn't yet there for these types of requirements.
I live in a semi-major city and everyone I know has issues with the internet intermittently cutting out. This is a city-wide issue and it is a major problem with online gaming.
I can only imagine the kinds of issues that are experienced by people in rural areas. I also have to assume there are a lot of people that won't be able to even play the new system. I am thinking about my trip to Alaska where there were towns of 100s of people that had electricity, but any internet was satallite based, which wouldn't be applicable for gaming.
Sure you might only be alienating 20%-30% of potential customers, but that seems like a huge amount. Especially because video game console manufacturers are losing customers to other tech every day, it seems like you would want to hold on to all that you can.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: esteban on April 07, 2013, 07:02:45 AM
STATUS: I already have an Xbox 360 and PS3 emulator for my PCE. It will keep me busy until the brilliant TG-16 homebrewers emulate the Xbox 720 and PSforte on our beloved hardware.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mishran on April 07, 2013, 07:11:09 AM
STATUS: I already have an Xbox 360 and PS3 emulator for my PCE. It will keep me busy until the brilliant TG-16 homebrewers emulate the Xbox 720 and PSforte on our beloved hardware.
Must share! =P~
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 07, 2013, 08:10:30 AM
The only thing I don't like is that internet technology isn't yet there for these types of requirements.
I live in a semi-major city and everyone I know has issues with the internet intermittently cutting out. This is a city-wide issue and it is a major problem with online gaming.
I can only imagine the kinds of issues that are experienced by people in rural areas. I also have to assume there are a lot of people that won't be able to even play the new system. I am thinking about my trip to Alaska where there were towns of 100s of people that had electricity, but any internet was satallite based, which wouldn't be applicable for gaming.
Sure you might only be alienating 20%-30% of potential customers, but that seems like a huge amount. Especially because video game console manufacturers are losing customers to other tech every day, it seems like you would want to hold on to all that you can.
This is exactly why this shit isn't happening. Only someone in the %1 of the world that actually has a stable internet connection would even think this was possible. They would have to make a special version that didn't require net access for...I'm going to say at least half of their intended audience, at which point it would make way more sense to just skip the idea for a generation.
They'd *love* to do it, make no mistake, its just that they can't.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Arkhan on April 07, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
I'll probably buy one, because that's what I do.
It will likely sit and collect dust after I beat the 2 games I give a shit about. and wont be touched for like 4 years until something good comes out.
I generally play PC
or PC Engine.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Necromancer on April 08, 2013, 04:00:36 AM
Protect your consumer rights! Bitch about rumors and supposition! :lol:
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Arkhan on April 08, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
what I don't get is, who cares.
So it has to be online all the time. If your internet is down and your life is in shambles, play something that isn't a f*cking retarded rehash of the last 10 years of video games.
I mean, when my PS3 was updating the one time and installing a game, I sat and played Dreamcast.
for 6 hours.
I forgot I was even trying to play PS3.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on April 08, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
I agree with you guys. I really do. I play current-gen stuff about 1% of the time and even then it's usually a compilation of retro games or VC. When I see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo make bonehead decisions my instincts kick in and I speak out against it. If the industry crashes again or gaming turns 100% social I still have my games, systems and memories of when times were simpler and more exciting. This is the industry I love but it has obviously changed. Where there once was genius bedroom coders and imaginative minds like 80s era Miyamoto we now have suits that are disconnected from the rest of us. Maybe I should just let it happen and turn my back on it. It might be healthier. :)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Tatsujin on April 08, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
bazzy will never support le evil plans of M$ (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3025/bazzy.gif)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: esteban on April 08, 2013, 03:25:56 PM
bazzy will never support le evil plans of M$ (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3025/bazzy.gif)
BAZZY IS FOR LE JUSTICE.
YOU BETCHA!
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: kazumn on April 08, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
I'm just going to wait and see what happens, it's not like a lot really changes when signing into xbox live/psn and even the wii u you're automatic online anyway well atleast i am.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: fraggore on April 09, 2013, 06:48:56 AM
love my retro and new gaming but if i have to be connected online just to play my games single i wont be buying the new xbox.
shame on gaming if it happens, its just a road to cut out second hand games and to charge you full retail price game downloads, there be no game collecting in future as the online services will be turned off and ll you games will go to silicon heaven.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: bacteria on April 10, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
Nice to see the general feeling is against being dictated to with new consoles, and preferring retro games anyway.
Personally I prefer gameplay anyway, which lends to retro games and systems.
Irrespectively, the internet I use at home is only ethernet as i'm not happy using wireless, and also I don't expect to have to pay inflated game prices, if I get games they tend to be second hand and cheap as most games are not worth paying good money for. Both of those factors seem to also lend to retro gaming too, given the policy for money-grabbing by the console manufacturers.
Talking of retro gaming, unrelated in a way but not really - I am expecting to release my video and pics to the world tomorrow for my Project Unity system. A retro console that can play 18 game formats, no emulation or clone hardware included, one controller, one power supply, one SCART cable...
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Necromancer on April 11, 2013, 03:35:48 AM
"No silicon heaven? Where would all of the calculators go?"
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: esadajr on April 11, 2013, 05:17:09 AM
I'll wait and see how it goes. Already dissapointed with the Wii HD + Tablet. Unless $ony and M$ can come up with some sort of virtual reality, 4D, 4K, etc I don't see how they can provide anything substancially different.
I would be more concerned about the games I bought with the imaginary points. Once the X360 is gone, who know what's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: jeffhlewis on April 11, 2013, 05:29:18 AM
Seeing as my PS3 is used 99% of the time as a streaming device and 1% of the time as a games machine, I'm not overly concerned either way. Whenever I buy the PS4 or "XB720" (or whatever) it will probably also be used primarily as a streaming device.
Think MS would be committing suicide by eliminating used games on the system, especially if Sony allows them. I doubt they're going to prohibit them. Gamestop could just flat out refuse to carry games for the system since banning used games would be an open f*ck you to their business model.
Just another reminder that the game industry of today is not the same one we fell in love with 20-30 years ago. It's big business now.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: KingDrool on April 11, 2013, 06:29:13 AM
Can we agree - as a society - to stop inserting a $ over the S in a company's name? It's just so...
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: bacteria on April 11, 2013, 09:08:42 AM
People leaving interest on the Xbox is kinda appropriate - it is therefore the "ex"-box
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: thesteve on April 11, 2013, 10:08:15 AM
its simply in invite for hacking most systems that have been hacked, were hacked due to unreasonable usage restrictions(phones/consoles)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: fraggore on April 21, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
well E3 will soon be around the corner and we should have all the news on what sony and microsoft will be doing then we all can make more informed decision on what we are doing, but i am still sticking too if its online only i wont be buying it.
And that hope MS new console if of better quality than the last, taking from experance i had 5 replaced and that's making me think on more ps4 this time and it seems most of my mates are thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: bacteria on April 22, 2013, 12:02:02 AM
The PS3's suffered from issues including overheating too; neither brand is probably ideal.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 22, 2013, 06:18:14 AM
The PS3 is 100 times more reliable than early 360. Early 360 failures were horrendous, worse than any console ever by far, including the PS2 which was a pile of junk that actively pumped dust over its own DVDROM drive the entire time it ran.
And that hope MS new console if of better quality than the last, taking from experance i had 5 replaced and that's making me think on more ps4 this time and it seems most of my mates are thinking the same thing.
I don't know about other people, but if I had replace my console FIVE TIMES, current gen, not some antique, to keep playing 360 games...I would feel like a giant tool who could be tricked into shelling out cash on anything. I sure as f*ck wouldn't buy another Xbox.
f*ck, I've only had three different PC Engines, in 20 years!
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on April 23, 2013, 03:38:30 AM
The PS3 is 100 times more reliable than early 360. Early 360 failures were horrendous, worse than any console ever by far, including the PS2 which was a pile of junk that actively pumped dust over its own DVDROM drive the entire time it ran.
I have a bit of a story about that. My little bro bought an XBOX360 at launch. After a few years, it finally red ringed. The warranty was well expired, so we sent it off to a trusted friend to take a look at it.
Low and behold, when he opened up this still officially sealed up console (complete with that holographic tape) he found tinfoil being used to connect the CPU to another component in the console.
Let me repeat that: Tinfoil in an officially sealed, never before serviced, console. The fail levels are off the charts.
Anyway, here's what I think about the whole Always-On DRM thing. I've taken a bit what others have said and added in a few things that I think about it. http://smaman.wordpress.com/2013/04/27/always-on-drm-is-a-game-that-nobody-can-win/
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on April 27, 2013, 11:16:31 AM
The PS3 is 100 times more reliable than early 360. Early 360 failures were horrendous, worse than any console ever by far, including the PS2 which was a pile of junk that actively pumped dust over its own DVDROM drive the entire time it ran.
I have a bit of a story about that. My little bro bought an XBOX360 at launch. After a few years, it finally red ringed. The warranty was well expired, so we sent it off to a trusted friend to take a look at it.
Low and behold, when he opened up this still officially sealed up console (complete with that holographic tape) he found tinfoil being used to connect the CPU to another component in the console.
Let me repeat that: Tinfoil in an officially sealed, never before serviced, console. The fail levels are off the charts.
Anyway, here's what I think about the whole Always-On DRM thing. I've taken a bit what others have said and added in a few things that I think about it. http://smaman.wordpress.com/2013/04/27/always-on-drm-is-a-game-that-nobody-can-win/
Pics or it didn't happen.
EDIT: And to that I mean the original Xbox 360 lasting a few years, not the tinfoil part.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SmaMan on April 27, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
Yeah, believe it or not, it's still running. It's loud as hell, but it works. I'll snag a picture of it when I get back home tomorrow.
For now, consider this advertised irony for this topic about "always-on DRM:" http://smaman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/screen-shot-2013-04-28-at-12-03-40-am.png (Look towards the bottom of the screenshot.)
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: jeffhlewis on April 28, 2013, 01:12:48 PM
Yeah, believe it or not, it's still running. It's loud as hell, but it works. I'll snag a picture of it when I get back home tomorrow.
For now, consider this advertised irony for this topic about "always-on DRM:" http://smaman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/screen-shot-2013-04-28-at-12-03-40-am.png (Look towards the bottom of the screenshot.)
I still have my launch Xbox360, which has survived 7+ years of abuse, annual Madden tournaments at work, 4 moves and has been on display and played at two Midwest Gaming Classics. Damn thing still runs like gangbusters; it just won't die.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 28, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
I know a guy that has a Japanese launch PS2 that still works, which is pretty incredible. When I worked at EB during the PS2 era, the last wave of the PS2 Phat specifically, I saw assloads of broken PS2s, several that actually shipped defective.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SmaMan on April 30, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Well Mr. (or Dr.) Professorson, here you go: (http://smaman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/img_0603-e1367357627622.jpg) In the bottom left corner is a launch XBOX which has survived through numerous RROD's (the three ring kind, and it will occasionally scare me by doing it again whenever the power goes out.) as well as some idiotic yet official Microsoft tinfoil rigging. Ahem...
And yet the bastards flat out denied they did it, even with solid evidence... scary that they want to us to buy into a console that will require a connection to some servers in their offices...
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 30, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
A console that has been repaired multiple times isn't the same as one that has been going since launch without any RRoDs.
My original PCE/CDROM2 combo has never been repaired once. It's a survivor. My original black Duo has probably been recapped by now meaning that it isn't as reliable.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Tatsujin on April 30, 2013, 02:58:21 PM
if you buy any M$ consoles, you have only yourself to blame.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: esadajr on May 01, 2013, 04:06:09 AM
if you buy any M$ consoles, you have only yourself to blame.
true for any MS product
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: KingDrool on May 06, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
Well, this should put an end to all the end-of-days talk: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/microsoft-next-xbox-will-work-even-when-your-internet-doesnt/
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SmaMan on May 07, 2013, 03:14:13 PM
Guess I'm not too surprised. With that kind of backlash even a hard-headed company like Microsoft would have to listen. Still, a relief, even though I don't plan on buying this console... at least not at launch.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 07, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
It isn't a matter of them "listening". It was never going to happen in the first place.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: BigusSchmuck on May 08, 2013, 03:13:06 AM
I have absolutely no interest in Microsofts new console. What, pay a premium just so you console will fail 54% of the time? No thank you, I rather spend the money on a high powered gaming pc.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: Mathius on May 08, 2013, 03:20:12 AM
I have absolutely no interest in Microsofts new console. What, pay a premium just so you console will fail 54% of the time? No thank you, I rather spend the money on a high powered gaming pc.
I am glad to see Microsoft wise up and listen to all the backlash. Whether or not they intended to do it at least companies have seen the public response if such plans are ever thought of being implemented.
I am kinda thinking in along these lines too. A high end gaming PC could be a less stressful route. I doubt I would leave consoles behind completely though.
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: esadajr on May 08, 2013, 04:54:41 AM
nothing beats a good HTPC. You can even make toast
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: KingDrool on May 08, 2013, 07:01:45 AM
It isn't a matter of them "listening". It was never going to happen in the first place.
Exactly. It was never confirmed. Just speculation based on "unnamed sources". But we know how people love to run around telling us the sky is falling...
Title: Re: Protect your consumer rights. Do not buy Microsoft's new console
Post by: SmaMan on May 08, 2013, 09:10:04 AM
Actually a good friend of mine who works at Microsoft seemed pretty convinced it was going to happen... nothing confirm worthy, mind you, but the possibility was out there, and that's what got gamers all up in arms.
That Adam Orth thing didn't help things either.
EDIT: Actually, it was pretty damn well confirmed. The Durango SDK spelled that out in black and white. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/21/tekken-x-street-fighter-going-next-gen)