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Title: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: SeymorOnion on May 03, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
I've been wondering about this for a while.
I've managed to find some bits and pieces to the puzzle, but have yet to find a comprehensive chart, or list.
Can you guys help me fill in any missing info, and correct any errors, in the following?

(http://www.seymoronion.com/_Work_Area/PCE_TG16_AV_Chart5.gif)

(http://www.seymoronion.com/_Work_Area/PCE_TG16_EXT_Port.gif)
EXT Port Pin-out Pictures are from: www.gamesx.com/misctech/pcebp.php (http://www.gamesx.com/misctech/pcebp.php)
There's higher quality versions of those pictures there, and additional information.

The Perimeter of the Socket for the EXT Port [Type A] on USA Systems, is different than Japanese systems.
However, the pin-out is the same.

Systems without an EXT Port, and the Shuttle, can be modded for RGB and A/V out, internally.

All RGB Mods require the addition of extra stuff, that's written about, at length, in other threads.  :P

EDIT 5-4-2013: Added "Yes" to DIN-Style A/V Port of the PCE Duo-RX. Thanks, SignOfZeta.

EDIT 5-7-2013: Added RF Info, thanks to soop and turbokon.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 04, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
The RX is listed on your chart as having no video output at all. It should be the same as the other Duos.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: spenoza on May 04, 2013, 05:14:33 AM
What can the Shuttle's expansion port be used for? Is there any means to connect it to a CD unit? I think I've read that it can't, but I'd like someone knowledgeable to weight in with a reminder.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: SeymorOnion on May 04, 2013, 05:27:28 AM
At http://www.supergaijinultragamer.org/category/pc-engine/ they show, and talk about,
a Memory Backup Unit that plugs into the Shuttle's EXT Port. :wink:
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: Black Tiger on May 04, 2013, 05:40:55 AM
What can the Shuttle's expansion port be used for? Is there any means to connect it to a CD unit? I think I've read that it can't, but I'd like someone knowledgeable to weight in with a reminder.

Gamesx: "For reasons known only to themselves the PC Engine Shuttle had a cut-down expansion connector. The primary change is the removal of the video bus pins, but in addition it lacks the IRQ2 pin, which is the only thing preventing the Shuttle from using a CD ROM peripheral. The Shuttle is a baffling mystery of the ages."

There is an official Tennokoe 2 style pack that goes inside the Shuttle. I sold a new one to someone on these boards who was hoping to be able to make it work in a Turbo Express.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: soop on May 07, 2013, 12:07:51 AM
All the question marks under "RF port" you can change to "no".

The GT and Turbo Express don't natively have AV out, but they do have the option of an RCA cable AV out via the TV tuner.

If you want to add them, the CD ROM2 has 3 RCA jacks for composite AV, and the Super CD ROM2 has the same AV jack as the Core Units, SuperGrafx et all.

There is the fact that the Hu Card slot is practically the same thing as the expansion bus, as referenced by BT above, but that's probably getting carried away.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: esadajr on May 07, 2013, 03:26:52 AM
At http://www.supergaijinultragamer.org/category/pc-engine/ they show, and talk about,
a Memory Backup Unit that plugs into the Shuttle's EXT Port. :wink:
That's a cool blog
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: turbokon on May 07, 2013, 05:27:44 AM
All the question marks under "RF port" you can change to "no".

The GT and Turbo Express don't natively have AV out, but they do have the option of an RCA cable AV out via the TV tuner.

If you want to add them, the CD ROM2 has 3 RCA jacks for composite AV, and the Super CD ROM2 has the same AV jack as the Core Units, SuperGrafx et all.

There is the fact that the Hu Card slot is practically the same thing as the expansion bus, as referenced by BT above, but that's probably getting carried away.

The tuner only has an A/V in to allow the GT or express to be used as a monitor, it doesn't have an a/v out.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: soop on May 07, 2013, 05:32:21 AM
All the question marks under "RF port" you can change to "no".

The GT and Turbo Express don't natively have AV out, but they do have the option of an RCA cable AV out via the TV tuner.

If you want to add them, the CD ROM2 has 3 RCA jacks for composite AV, and the Super CD ROM2 has the same AV jack as the Core Units, SuperGrafx et all.

There is the fact that the Hu Card slot is practically the same thing as the expansion bus, as referenced by BT above, but that's probably getting carried away.

The tuner only has an A/V in to allow the GT or express to be used as a monitor, it doesn't have an a/v out.

Agh, you're right.  I think I was confused by someone(Keith Courage?)'s GT mod?  I remember seeing a photo of a GT with video out, but on consideration, I don't think it was ... natural.
Title: Re: AV and RF Options for PCE, Core I & II, LT, Shuttle, and SuperGrafx
Post by: SeymorOnion on May 07, 2013, 07:39:48 AM
Thanks for helping me complete the chart, guys. :wink: