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Title: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on June 30, 2013, 11:17:23 AM
Just came across this, and I must say I am pretty stoked.  This is something I would love to see made for the Duo, but here is one for the PS1 system.  :)

Web page:  http://www.psio.com.au/

Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/PSIO/393370060736975

What are you guy's thoughts on this?  I for one, think it is pretty damn cool.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: whisper2053 on June 30, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
Wow! Just...wow. All I can really say to this. Accomplishing something like this is just simply ingenious. Thanks for cluing us in Bernie!
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on June 30, 2013, 11:40:12 AM
So far looks cool, but needs a boot menu and right now looks like in the video for initial boot it has to be connected to a Pc. Still, possibilities are good that this can end up being a pretty awesome device for the thing.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: MotherGunner on June 30, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
I like it.  Funny, I was holding my PS1 this weekend while organizing and was remembering I bought a similar device the was supposed to emulate PCE roms.  That never worked!

This is something I wouldn't mind owning.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on June 30, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
So far looks cool, but needs a boot menu and right now looks like in the video for initial boot it has to be connected to a Pc. Still, possibilities are good that this can end up being a pretty awesome device for the thing.

Hopefully, that is just something for the beta version.  I would think it wouldn't need a PC once it has gone into the production stage.  I will be staying tuned.  :)
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: storino03 on June 30, 2013, 02:12:06 PM
The only bad thing is you need one of the early PS1 consoles that have the defunked Parallel Port on the back (that wasn't used), which was dropped on all later models.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Duo_R on June 30, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
Yeah you can those really cheap on Craigslist tho
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 30, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
Yeah, we need a PC Engine one of these bad.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: allyourblood on June 30, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
The only bad thing is you need one of the early PS1 consoles that have the defunked Parallel Port on the back (that wasn't used), which was dropped on all later models.

Wasn't this thing still on the console all the way up to the 75001? If so, it should be pretty much everywhere. I know I've got at least 4 or 5 Playstations lying around and I'm almost certain they've all got it. Shouldn't be too hard to run into one, I figure.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Tatsujin on June 30, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
Read that on Assmebler already few weeks ago.
PCE would be nice tho.. don't have to take out teh CDs anymore, broken laser gear-wheels etc. your mom. ...lol

All huey and CD obey, on a small micro SD card, attached on the PCEs extention port :)
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: SuperDeadite on June 30, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
Read that on Assmebler already few weeks ago.
PCE would be nice tho.. don't have to take out teh CDs anymore, broken laser gear-wheels etc. your mom. ...lol

Liar, nobody reads that forum anymore. :P
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Tatsujin on June 30, 2013, 04:51:02 PM
Read that on Assmebler already few weeks ago.
PCE would be nice tho.. don't have to take out teh CDs anymore, broken laser gear-wheels etc. your mom. ...lol

Liar, nobody reads that forum anymore. :P

Ok, I saw its title but tl;dr :P
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: nodtveidt on June 30, 2013, 05:45:35 PM
You're both liars. There are no forums outside of pcenginefx.com.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: xelement5x on July 01, 2013, 05:58:33 AM
Very cool, makes me glad I picked up that one extra PSX I found at a thrift for $9. 
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Arkhan on July 01, 2013, 10:29:04 AM
I will be buying one or ten of these.

I'll play every RPG at the same time aw yeahhhhhhh!!!234y6y7uiklj
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: SuperDeadite on July 01, 2013, 01:22:23 PM
Curious to see if this thing can handle multiple disk games.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Arkhan on July 01, 2013, 01:36:42 PM
Curious to see if this thing can handle multiple disc games.
^^^fixed, lol.

It should.  I'm basing this off of how flashcart/card readers for MSX work and handle multi disk games.

Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Duo_R on July 01, 2013, 03:21:36 PM



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What about multi-disc games. Can I play games such as Abe's Exodus or Final Fantasy that use more than one disc?Yes. This will be supported. Whilst playing your game, you can simply bring up a menu (using a button combination) that will allow you to mount a different CD-ROM or we will simulate a disc swap. This will all depend how the prototype performs during our tests. More information regarding this feature will be explained later on.

Curious to see if this thing can handle multiple disk games.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Duo_R on July 01, 2013, 03:22:46 PM

From their website:

What about the PSone / SCPH-900x PlayStation's?The PSone (Sony's re-designed mini PlayStation 1) and SCPH-900x series, will not be plug-and-play since they do not have a Parallel Port.To get around this, we have a special version that will not include the PIO header connector on the PCB.You will then need to solder from PSIO's PIO header, to the PlayStation mainboard manually.


The only bad thing is you need one of the early PS1 consoles that have the defunked Parallel Port on the back (that wasn't used), which was dropped on all later models.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Arkhan on July 01, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
Its ok, there was that craigslist ad on here a week or two ago with that dude selling about 90 PS1s.

We're good.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: csgx1 on July 02, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Seems like a pretty neat device.  Finding old PS1 systems for cheap shouldn't be a problem.  The last time I was at my local thrift shop there were a good number of older PS1 systems for under $10. 
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: wavering on July 02, 2013, 10:50:00 AM
Oh man I need one.  I sealed up all my PS1 games in bags to sit on the shelf, would save some hassle.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: esadajr on July 04, 2013, 05:44:32 AM
Just came across this, and I must say I am pretty stoked.  This is something I would love to see made for the Duo, but here is one for the PS1 system.  :)

Web page:  http://www.psio.com.au/

Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/PSIO/393370060736975

What are you guy's thoughts on this?  I for one, think it is pretty damn cool.  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Duo_R on July 04, 2013, 07:11:40 AM
At first I didn't think much about it but now I wants. Going to do a digital audio mod on Le old PS1 to get it ready
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on December 21, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
Got some recent info on this bad boy.  Hopefully, it will be ready soon.  New video here, and it is showing what appears to be an almost finished product.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKqx9y4i9JA
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Duo_R on December 21, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
Nice
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: pulstar on December 21, 2014, 08:41:50 AM
Cool...but when I saw this bumped I thought it had been released :( Hopefully not too long to wait now :)
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on December 21, 2014, 08:50:29 AM
Cool...but when I saw this bumped I thought it had been released :( Hopefully not too long to wait now :)

Yeah, I know the feeling.  Can't be much longer tho.  I am assuming he is making sure there are no major bug in the OS.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: cjameslv on December 21, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Subscribed.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: pdiggitydogg on December 21, 2014, 09:29:10 PM
Going to do a digital audio mod on Le old PS1 to get it ready
More information on this? I used to have a link saved but the page went down...

I want to say there is some hardware modding involved is the psiso install - not totally plug and play...not that that matters I guess. I have 3 playstations so I might do this to one of them when its released.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on December 22, 2014, 09:11:43 AM
There is a small hardware modification needed, IF it is used on the original Playstation.  I will attach the FAQ from the website.
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So what. I just plug PSIO into my PlayStation 1?
Yes. However, an internal modification is required. The modification is a small printed circuit board (PCB) with a logic gate array based integrated circuit (IC) that detects whether a PSIO cartridge is plugged in or not.

That does have me a little leery....I am no good at shit like that..  I guess we will know more on that later.  I mean, is it soldered in, plugged in, what?



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What is PSIO?
PSIO is simply a cartridge that plugs into your PlayStation 1's Parallel I/O Port (PIO).
It will then let you play your backed up games from an SD card, to which then they will be playable on the console.
Should you wish to continue using CD-ROM's whilst PSIO is plugged in and not load games from the SD card, you may switch to "CD Mode" within the "PSIO System Software" (read below).

Is PSIO an emulator for PlayStation games?
PSIO does not emulate PlayStation games. PSIO is an emulator of the CD-ROM coprocessor (SUB-CPU). That being said, it is a hardware emulator, which, is almost identical to the original Sony CD-ROM controller MCU.

How much will it be?
We can't put a price tag on PSIO at the moment. More information will be disclosed upon release, or, when pre-ordering is available.

When will I be able to purchase PSIO?
Plans are to have it on the market and for sale sometime during 2014 (hopefully).

What GUI/OS will be running?
A custom built menu system called the "PSIO System Software". It runs on the PlayStation 1 directly and allows you to select and boot games from the SD card with the controller.

Can I boot my backed up CD-R's from PSIO instead of from the SD card?
Yes.

Will vibration work?
Everything thing will work exactly as normal when PSIO is running. The only difference is that instead of booting from the CD-ROM to the license screen and then the game, the PlayStation will boot into our menu system as mentioned above.

Will it have a Virtual Memory Card?
We plan to have this feature incorporated.

Will PlayStation 1 games run at their original speed when using PSIO?
Yes. The PlayStation 1 Parallel Port can handle up to 3 megabytes per second on the system bus. The original CD-ROM (at 2x speed) could read at a maximum of 352 kilobytes per second, so there is plenty of bandwidth available.

What regions will PSIO work in?
It will work in all regions. This includes PAL, NTSC-U/C and NTSC-J.

Do all games work on PSIO?
According to theory, all games should work once we have perfected the logic in PSIO's main processor.
For now, we have not yet tested the entire PlayStation game library, but you may see which games have been tested here.

My PlayStation 1 is a PAL system. Can I play NTSC-U/C or NTSC-J games on it?
Yes, however you will need to play over RGB video output or else a modification to the PlayStation mainboard will be required in order to generate a colour picture. We will have more detailed information about this upon release and how you may perform the modification.

Can I listen to music?
Yes. However, it will be a custom format because the PlayStation 1's CPU can not decode MP3's.

What about multi-disc games. Can I play games such as Abe's Exodus or Final Fantasy that use more than one disc?
Yes. This will be supported. Whilst playing your game, you can simply bring up a menu (using a button combination) that will allow you to mount a different CD-ROM or we will simulate a disc swap. This will all depend how the prototype performs during our tests. More information regarding this feature will be explained upon release.

Can I watch movies/video?
Possibly. If the system can not decode MP3, then it will be near impossible to decode MP4 or AVI. Most likely it will be a stream of 320x256 video (also known as STR interleaved with XA).

Can I use a Hard Disk Drive to play my games?
This is was originally planned to happen, but was soon after scratched.
After a lengthy and careful consideration, we will be releasing an SD based version only for the time being.

So what. I just plug PSIO into my PlayStation 1?
Yes. However, an internal modification is required. The modification is a small printed circuit board (PCB) with a logic gate array based integrated circuit (IC) that detects whether a PSIO cartridge is plugged in or not.

For example, if PSIO is not plugged in, one would want their PlayStation 1 to function as it normally would with the CD-ROM drive. On the other hand, when PSIO is plugged into the "Parallel I/O" (PIO) port, one would want to boot from PSIO and not the CD-ROM.

The "Detection Board" is included free with any PSIO cartridge purchase, and is open source. This means that anyone can make one themselves (should they loose it) and have it be installed in another PlayStation 1 (EG: a friends PSX). If you do not want to make one yourself, we will of course have spares for sale. More information about this topic will be explained in detail upon release.

What about the PSone / SCPH-900x PlayStation's?
The PSone (Sony's re-designed mini PlayStation 1) and SCPH-900x series, will not be plug-and-play since they do not have a Parallel I/O port. To get around this, we have a special version that will not include the PIO header connector on the PCB. You will be required to solder approximately 17 wires from PSIO's custom pin design to the PSone mainboard manually (like a PS2 modchip).

When did you start working on this?
PSIO began as a concept on August 15th, 2010.
It is an incredible device in which countless man-hours, and late night programming sessions have gone into its development.

Ever heard of an emulator?
A what? >_>

What is the point of this. I can play my games fine from a disc!
That's fantastic! Bookmark this site because those discs and drive mechanism will eventually fail.

Will it have debugging options?
Yes. PSIO will have a USB port for a direct connection from your PlayStation 1, to a PC so you may program games and upload homebrew to the PlayStation 1 (check out our PlayStation 1 Homebrew website here).

Will it have a built in GameShark?
Yes. We will add in a cheat system/hexadecimal editor.

Will you post Worldwide?
Yes, of course!
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: esadajr on December 27, 2014, 07:14:35 AM
just watched the video. I hope this becomes a reality and everyone one who wants one can get it.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: munchiaz on December 27, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
Man i want one of these
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: ClodBuster on December 27, 2014, 10:20:40 AM
Since my PS2 has been modified to play PS1/2 imports and burned media, I don't think I'm in the need for this.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: Bernie on December 27, 2014, 11:32:38 AM
Since my PS2 has been modified to play PS1/2 imports and burned media, I don't think I'm in the need for this.

Well good for you.  Have a damn cookie.  :)
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: SamIAm on December 27, 2014, 11:41:58 AM
Yeah, I'd get this.
Title: Re: PSIO: Device allows running of backup games from SD on actual PS1 hardware.
Post by: ClodBuster on December 27, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Shankfs for fthe cookie *munches* :-)