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Title: addiction
Post by: wildfruit on June 30, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
i can make do without alcohol and other "substances" from a misspent youth. why the hell is tobacco so hard to drop. anyone got any tips? having sleepless nights here
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on June 30, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
Everyone trying to quit smoking usually need different methods to stop. Some people can go cold turkey, others need the gum or to ease off it slowly. For me I was able to just stop. I can pick it up and drop it just as fast. Since smoking is related to stress, and people think they need it to cope with the such, it is often helpful to avoid high stress related situations if at all possible when trying to quit.
If all else fails, watch Cat's Eye.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: Tatsujin on June 30, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: tggodfrey on June 30, 2013, 01:55:53 PM
My father went cold turkey but that was after his cousin died so there was motivation. My G/F quit years ago with the medical method (an EX G/F did as well) and it works but only for a short term. After your off the meds you need to keep your will up to not go back. G/F hasnt smoked in 5 years and still to this day she has urges.
Few of the people I skydive with chose the E-Cig method and they seem to like it.
I dont smoke so no help directly from me.
You do need to organize a list of situations that promote smoking. Going to the bar, Skydiving, Partying ect need to be considered if your trying to quit as well.
Good luck to you.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: futureman2000 on June 30, 2013, 02:27:12 PM
I tried to quit twice using the patch, but I found that it was frustrating to work so hard at not smoking only to find that you are still addicted to nicotine a month later (and still buying expensive patches).
When I finally did quit (October 2007), I didn't use the patch- I just stopped smoking the day I started a new job. I did a few things that I felt would help me out. For one, I carried around a pack of cigarettes with me for a few weeks. This was because I always checked my pockets for smokes before I would leave the house. For some reason, having a pack helped. I also kept in mind the reasons that I wanted to quit: 1. Smoking makes you smell like shit. You don't really notice it until you quit- then you smell it on others like a bloodhound. a. Smoking in your car makes it stink too b. Smoking in the house makes all of your stuff stink 2. It might kill me before I want to die 3. It's expensive (even rolling your own cigarettes is a lot more expensive than not smoking at all) 4. getting rid of the "need"- like needing to smoke on the way to work. Not "having" to smoke is the best part about quitting.
GOOD LUCK! Not smoking is pretty rad, I hope you will enjoy it.
And good luck Nullity, I had a similar SO situation before- makes it really hard.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: Tatsujin on June 30, 2013, 02:51:19 PM
I'm also on my good way of quitting. ATM I'm smoking only about 3 to 6 cigs per day, and only 1mg stuff. I think I could stop just right away, but for some reasons, I always really love to smoke at some drink/eat fests. This would be the hardest part for me to let it go :( That and during some little bit more stressful times.
So for the time being I'll try to even lover my daily intake to possible 1 to 0 cigs, but probably still will have fews when ever we have some fests.
I mean already 3 per day isn't that much, but I'm fully aware that 0 would be much better than 3.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: RoyVegas on June 30, 2013, 07:54:32 PM
Chantix got me to finally quit. It can have some very serious side effects though. Very simple, one pill in the morning and one pill in the afternoon. It pretty much kills all the cravings and when you do have a craving it only lasts a few seconds. Worst side effects are suicidal thoughts, demonic dreams, and death. I had no issues taking it but I know someone who did have bad dreams and thoughts of suicide so she had to stop taking it .
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on July 01, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
Worst side effects are suicidal thoughts, demonic dreams, and death. (and the other stuff you said)
That reminds me of this:
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: esteban on July 01, 2013, 04:15:59 AM
ASIDE: Fighting Smack in The Orphanage!!!???
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: Arkhan on July 01, 2013, 04:50:13 AM
Just pretend the cigarettes are penises. You won't want them in your mouth anymore.
Or will you!?
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: bartre on July 01, 2013, 05:12:09 AM
QUITTING IS FOR QUITTERS. My advice - smoke a pack at a time, and work your way up to a carton at a time. Eventually, the cigarettes won't be able to handle you, and they'll quit.
Just pretend the cigarettes are penises. You won't want them in your mouth anymore.
Or will you!?
In the UK smokers happily call them "fags" so I think your idea will not work so well.....
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: wildfruit on August 15, 2013, 12:04:28 AM
went and saw doctor toady, got perscribed champix let's see how that goes
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: jperryss on August 15, 2013, 12:38:40 AM
Here's a lengthy post of mine copied from another board I frequent, I'll leave it here in case it helps.
I smoked for about 12 years and made at least four solid attempts to quit in that time. I finally quit for good on 4/10/11 with the help of the patch. But you have to understand that the patch will not suddenly make you not want to smoke, it just helps with the cravings you will most definitely get. BTW I saved quite a bit of $ getting them off of eBay.
I've read too much dangerous stuff about Chantix to ever try it. I do know two people who used it, one successfully quit and the other did not. Both experienced "vivid dreams".
The first month is tough. Expect your mind to start messing with you. Remind yourself that you will NOT feel better if you have "just one". In fact, you will feel worse, angry at yourself for failing, and then 20 minutes later you will want another one. Understand that your routine of lighting up when you wake up in the morning, or when you get into your car to go to work, etc. is just part of the habit. It will feel weird at first not having that morning smoke, but you will get used to it, trust me, and in time you won't even think about it anymore. If you can stop yourself from having "just one" you will succeed.
If you've got any cigarettes left, toss 'em! I was rolling my own for years due to the cost savings and even threw my $50 injector machine and a quarter-pound of tobacco in the trash when I quit.
Give your car a good interior cleaning and hang up a couple air freshners. Smelling the stink every time you get in the car won't help you.The car stink may disappear over time. When I smoked I always had the cig in my left hand and the driver's side window opened, so most of the smoke immediately left the vehicle. I would say within 6 months of quitting the smell was gone (confirmed by two friends who've never smoked).
You will breathe better, taste food better, and your sense of smell will improve. You will realize that smokers STINK. Go for walks around the neighborhood to get the blood flowing and some fresh air in your lungs. As an added bonus, you're not killing yourself every day.
One unexpected benefit was that I found myself sleeping much better and feeling well-rested when I woke up in the morning.
Be careful with nicotine-replacement products. Most are intended to be used short-term to help with quitting, not as long-term replacements. Yes, nicotine gum is not as bad for you as smoking, but you've only traded one nasty habit for one less-nasty habit.
Plan rewards for yourself. Take the $ you are saving and stash it. Reward yourself at milestones (2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months, etc) and something big at the 1 year mark. My one-year reward to myself was a trip to Disneyworld with the wife, a big chunk of which was paid for with the money savings from not smoking. :D
Sorry for the super-long-winded post. You can do it!
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: 420GOAT on August 15, 2013, 04:33:31 AM
smoke weed.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: Arkhan on August 15, 2013, 04:47:03 AM
went and saw doctor toady, got perscribed champix let's see how that goes
Not sure if a guy named Dr. Toady is trustworthy for medical advice or treatment... :-k
Just remember a couple things with Chantix. You can smoke during the first week but you'll notice towards the middle/end of the week you won't enjoy the cigs anymore. After that you WILL still get cravings but if you can just wait 2-3 minutes and not have a cig, the cravings with completely vanish. Just get past those few minutes of initial cravings and you'll be ok... Keep us updated and good luck!
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: wildfruit on September 01, 2013, 08:29:58 AM
went and saw doctor toady, got perscribed champix let's see how that goes
Not sure if a guy named Dr. Toady is trustworthy for medical advice or treatment... :-k
Just remember a couple things with Chantix. You can smoke during the first week but you'll notice towards the middle/end of the week you won't enjoy the cigs anymore. After that you WILL still get cravings but if you can just wait 2-3 minutes and not have a cig, the cravings with completely vanish. Just get past those few minutes of initial cravings and you'll be ok... Keep us updated and good luck!
it works just as you described on my third week of pills now after about 3 or 4 days I cut down to 10 a day from 20 and over the week had less and less til I haven't had for a week exactly today champix is powerful stuff I have had crazy dreams every time I go to sleep though whereas I have barely had dreams my whole life other than that no side effects, no depression no spasms or anything
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: albatross on September 01, 2013, 10:05:49 AM
read this book: Easy way to stop smoking - by Allan Carr
i havent touched a smoke in 5 years and anyone i know who has read it has successfully quit for long periods of time
good luck!
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: albatross on September 01, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
its an easy read - maybe 100 pages or so - well worth the $15 for someone trying to quit - i dont know for sure but maybe there is a little brain washing going on in those pages - all i can say is it worked for me and several others i know - i think it comes down to that moment of weakness - where you really want a smoke and i believe having read this book helped me make the choice not have one - everytime - until it just didnt matter anymore - and i was free - finally - after having tried so many times before with no success
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: wildfruit on September 01, 2013, 12:46:13 PM
read this book: Easy way to stop smoking - by Allan Carr
i havent touched a smoke in 5 years and anyone i know who has read it has successfully quit for long periods of time
good luck!
i have the book personally it didnt work for me but i think that was because i had a lot to deal with at the time. this guy did plenty of interviews before he died giving away his "secret" but i guess the book just explains it in ten times more death. basically it tries to convince you to have an epiphany that you no longer smoke. although lung cancer got him in the end if he didnt stop im pretty sure he would have died in his 50s rather than his 70s
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: albatross on September 01, 2013, 01:20:00 PM
you are the first person i have heard say it didnt work - are you still smoking? maybe give it another read?
i didnt know he died - its kind of ironic - but i guess when he did smoke it was to the extreme - like 2 - 3 packs a day
one thing i do remember from the book was him saying - there is nothing good or positive about smoking it does not add to or enrich anyones life in anyway - that always stuck with me
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on September 01, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
its an easy read - maybe 100 pages or so - well worth the $15 for someone trying to quit - i dont know for sure but maybe there is a little brain washing ton of positive encouragement going on in those pages - all i can say is it worked for hundreds of thousands of others - i think it comes down to that moment of weakness - where you really want a smoke and i believe having read this book helped others make the choice not have one - everytime - until it just didnt matter anymore - and they were free - finally - after having tried so many times before with no success.
one thing i do remember from the book was him saying - there is nothing good or positive about smoking it does not add to or enrich anyones life in anyway - that always stuck with me
Native Americans tend to disagree.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: albatross on September 02, 2013, 01:51:57 AM
i guess it really boils down to a choice - albeit a very very difficult one!
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: jeffhlewis on September 02, 2013, 06:11:33 AM
I quit smoking after I stopped hanging out with people who smoke. Easier said than done in a lot of cases, but it really worked. This theory was proven when I started smoking again after moving in with a roommate who smokes. I'll probably quit again after our lease is up, for good this time.
That, and getting out there and going for a run, bike ride, etc. every day keeps me motivated to not pollute my lungs with crap.
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: albatross on September 02, 2013, 07:35:31 AM
god luck man! you have done it before and you will do it again
Title: Re: addiction
Post by: MrFlutterPie on September 02, 2013, 08:22:04 AM
went and saw doctor toady, got perscribed champix let's see how that goes
Not sure if a guy named Dr. Toady is trustworthy for medical advice or treatment... :-k
Just remember a couple things with Chantix. You can smoke during the first week but you'll notice towards the middle/end of the week you won't enjoy the cigs anymore. After that you WILL still get cravings but if you can just wait 2-3 minutes and not have a cig, the cravings with completely vanish. Just get past those few minutes of initial cravings and you'll be ok... Keep us updated and good luck!
it works just as you described on my third week of pills now after about 3 or 4 days I cut down to 10 a day from 20 and over the week had less and less til I haven't had for a week exactly today champix is powerful stuff I have had crazy dreams every time I go to sleep though whereas I have barely had dreams my whole life other than that no side effects, no depression no spasms or anything