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Title: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: jeffhlewis on November 18, 2013, 02:09:38 PM
This is gold - Akira Nishitani (director of Street Fighter 2 and Final Fight) went on twitter and dropped a bunch of knowledge about the two games' development...pretty cool technical stuff:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/akira-nishitani-speaks-sf2-director-154210.0.html
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: MrFlutterPie on November 19, 2013, 01:04:20 AM
Wow there was some cool stuff in there.

Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Black Tiger on November 19, 2013, 06:10:21 AM
Amazing. :D
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Arjak on November 19, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Wow, awesome find! There's a lot of great info here...

Someone needs to ask him about Poison from Final Fight. The truth must be known! :P
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Opethian on November 19, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
poison is a transgender
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: MrFlutterPie on November 19, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
poison is a transgender

Straight up there is no debate :D
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: TR0N on November 19, 2013, 05:26:30 PM
poison is a transgender
Didn't Yoshinori Oni state that poison is a women  :roll:
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Arjak on November 19, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
poison is a transgender

I think that was just a myth created after the fact. There is absolutely no evidence of that in the game. What I REALLY want to know is what the original intention was.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Black Tiger on November 20, 2013, 12:01:38 AM
The last thing I heard from somebody who worked at Capcom in Japan is that Poison is pre-op there, but official post-op in the U.S., because somehow that's less offensive. I'd love to see a tweet like these discuss early ideas right through to the published game for her.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: geise on November 20, 2013, 03:49:14 AM
Since it's an imaginative character it doesn't really matter.  It's all left up to your imagination. :lol:
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: TR0N on November 20, 2013, 05:33:24 PM
Since it's an imaginative character it doesn't really matter.  It's all left up to your imagination. :lol:

Yeah that's allot of imagination oh boy  :shock:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Poison_SF.png)
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: MrFlutterPie on November 21, 2013, 12:27:51 AM
The story supposedly goes like this.  Poison is female but Nintendo of America didn't think it was right to be beating up women so they wanted to switch the sprites to be male.  Capcom said that they didn't need to switch out the sprites because she was transgender and thus already a man so there was no violence against women in the game.  From there on she is officially considered to be transgender by Capcom.

However, the original intent was that she would be female but that changed real quick after the Nintendo censorship issue.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: geise on November 21, 2013, 02:42:22 AM
So Nintendo US said it's ok to  beat up transgenders?
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Opethian on November 21, 2013, 03:01:19 AM
So Nintendo US said it's ok to  beat up transgenders?
when they are dressed like that and deceitful...yes
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: Black Tiger on November 21, 2013, 03:09:56 AM
So Nintendo US said it's ok to  beat up transgenders?

No they said that they still had to swap out the female looking characters for male looking ones and poison/roxy do not appear in the NA SNES version.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: MrFlutterPie on November 21, 2013, 03:27:20 AM
So Nintendo US said it's ok to  beat up transgenders?

No they said that they still had to swap out the female looking characters for male looking ones and poison/roxy do not appear in the NA SNES version.

Exactly.  Poison and Roxy were replaced with a male punk sprite called Billy and Sid.  Nintendo U.S is responsible for Poison being Transgender though lol.

The U.S GBA version doesn't even have Poison in it.  They kept Billy and Sid  in it as well.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: geise on November 21, 2013, 05:04:17 AM
Yeah, sorry I read that wrong.  I know about the sprite change for SNES.  I was thinking nintendo was thinking oh, it's ok, but lets still change it.  I'm still learning to read.

Regardless I think Capcom said that so they could just get away with less work for localization.
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: jeffhlewis on November 21, 2013, 06:17:13 AM
I love how any discussion on Final Fight eventually devolves into "Does Poison have a dick?"
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: geise on November 21, 2013, 07:20:27 AM
I love how any discussion on Final Fight eventually devolves into "Does Poison have a dick?"

Haha!  So true!  Probably why Capcom said that to begin with.  So nerds decades later will be "so...yes or no?..."
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: ccovell on November 21, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
Yes, it's true!
(http://i.qkme.me/3udhd9.jpg)(http://theseconddisc.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/look-what-the-cat-dragged-in.jpg)
Title: Re: Akira Nishitani Reveals Tidbits about SF2 and FF Development
Post by: geise on November 21, 2013, 01:10:51 PM
 :lol: ^ AWESOME! I just noticed it has Drag in the album title.