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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: Nando on May 28, 2014, 07:10:05 AM

Title: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 28, 2014, 07:10:05 AM
if there ever is such a thing as a PCE/TG16 clone, what features/specs would you like it to have?

Personally I'd want a machine that could play PCE/SCD/SGX/PC-FX games. Kinda like a "history of NEC consoles, clone, retro machine"

Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Black Tiger on May 28, 2014, 07:42:44 AM
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16773.0

I didn't respond to that thread, but a hardware clone like early faniclones would be nice. With built-in ACD support, optional sdcard for roms and isos and composite/s-video/component output and a massive internal memory for saves. A PC Engine style casing, like the NEX or whatever would be very cool.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: synbiosfan on May 28, 2014, 08:03:04 AM
personally, I think the real doll form factor was the best suggestion.

Agreed!
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 28, 2014, 08:03:30 AM
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16773.0

I didn't respond to that thread, but a hardware clone like early faniclones would be nice. With built-in ACD support, optional sdcard for roms and isos and composite/s-video/component output and a massive internal memory for saves. A PC Engine style casing, like the NEX or whatever would be very cool.

That Nex supposedly uses "beyond" repair OG Fami boards and wraps em up nicely. It's quite a nice item at $500, to say the least, but I can appreciate the effort.


Strictly business speaking EMU would be a great way to go, at least from a price point POV. However one can do emu on any Android device. I use PCE EMU on my galaxy tab and it ROCKS! specially with a Bluetooth controller.

The more designer/niche product would be pretty tight.

Maybe a retron like setup couldn't hurt either. Those are systems on a chip, correct?
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Black Tiger on May 28, 2014, 09:34:09 AM
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16773.0

I didn't respond to that thread, but a hardware clone like early faniclones would be nice. With built-in ACD support, optional sdcard for roms and isos and composite/s-video/component output and a massive internal memory for saves. A PC Engine style casing, like the NEX or whatever would be very cool.


That Nex supposedly uses "beyond" repair OG Fami boards and wraps em up nicely. It's quite a nice item at $500, to say the least, but I can appreciate the effort.

Strictly business speaking EMU would be a great way to go, at least from a price point POV. However one can do emu on any Android device. I use PCE EMU on my galaxy tab and it ROCKS! specially with a Bluetooth controller.

The more designer/niche product would be pretty tight.

Maybe a retron like setup couldn't hurt either. Those are systems on a chip, correct?


I was talking about the original North American NES clone, which looks like a super compact NES:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_NEX
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: esadajr on May 28, 2014, 10:53:07 AM
such device would be great to have, for now wiimednafen is your friend
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 28, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
First time I've seen a Nex. Nice!

Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Desh on May 29, 2014, 04:15:38 AM
I'll be honest, I was surprised that there was not even a mention of implementing PCE/tg16 support on the new Retron console.  It appears as though they are including all of the other imports in an effort to sell worldwide.  I understand not wanting to because of a lack of interest, do to low TG16 sales numbers here in the states but, PCE was big in Japan.  Why wouldn't they want to tap into that market?  On the other hand, if cheaper hardware was readily available in a game market that is already in short supply, we may only see game prices go up more.

Anyways, if I had my wish I would only care that a clone displayed and sounded like the real thing but include HDMI output and a built in up scaler and I would be buying one at almost any cost.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 29, 2014, 05:27:28 AM
There were some random talks about a Retron like console that would be a Saturn/TG16 console, but dunno what came out of that.

I wonder if there's is a market for such a hybrid, or for a TG16 Retron like console.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: esadajr on May 29, 2014, 07:48:25 AM
Now the TG16 has this "vintage / rare" cult status, you would think making such a clone is viable. Too bad including an sd/usb option is taboo.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 29, 2014, 08:26:44 AM
Now the TG16 has this "vintage / rare" cult status, you would think making such a clone is viable. Too bad including an sd/usb option is taboo.

Purist will always go for the OG consoles any changes to that is sacrilegious and I get where they are coming from.  If the goal is to broaden the awareness of this cool lil system then sd/usb and hdmi out are a must nowadays for the mass market.

The Retron 5 makes a great platform for those that are not quite ready to make the full plunge to classic gaming systems and want that old school/ in front of the TV feel.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Bardoly on May 29, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
I'll be honest, I was surprised that there was not even a mention of implementing PCE/tg16 support on the new Retron console.  It appears as though they are including all of the other imports in an effort to sell worldwide.  I understand not wanting to because of a lack of interest, do to low TG16 sales numbers here in the states but, PCE was big in Japan.  Why wouldn't they want to tap into that market?  On the other hand, if cheaper hardware was readily available in a game market that is already in short supply, we may only see game prices go up more.

Anyways, if I had my wish I would only care that a clone displayed and sounded like the real thing but include HDMI output and a built in up scaler and I would be buying one at almost any cost.

I spoke with the Hyperkin representative at the 2013 Midwest Gaming Classic about this very thing.  I suggested that they create a CD system which would have the capability of playing all of the CD game console games (PC Engine, CD-i, Sega CD, Saturn, etc) - basically every CD game console which they could legally do it for.  (I'm sure that Playstation wouldn't allow them to clone their system...)  I also proposed that this 'Retron CD' also have the capability to play HuCARD games, both TG-16 and PC Engine, since it 'fits' with the Turbo CD games.  The man with whom I spake seemed very interested in my ideas, and he wrote some notes down concerning them.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: HailingTheThings on May 29, 2014, 05:08:27 PM
The man with whom I spake seemed very interested in my ideas, and he wrote some notes down concerning them.

Hopefully he wasn't just drawing boobs and the like to make it seem as if he was interested.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: technozombie on May 29, 2014, 05:16:46 PM
The retron5 is just emulators with cartridge slots and controller ports. I expect hackers to have different emulators running Roms off its SD slot in no time.

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Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Nando on May 30, 2014, 02:20:42 AM
The man with whom I spake seemed very interested in my ideas, and he wrote some notes down concerning them.

Hopefully he wasn't just drawing boobs and the like to make it seem as if he was interested.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH


It all comes down to "demand." The idea of an all in one CD system is pretty bad ass plus it gives the idea a wider audience. Now is there a market for it? will people pay for this? if so, how much?

DAMN THE REALITIES OF BUSINESS getting in the way of dreams and ideas!

TechZombie - do you know what emu they use one their systems? I would imagine it is a custom emu, but maybe it's foundations are from already released stuff.  Robert Broglias .emu series are my favorite emu's on android. 
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: Black Tiger on May 30, 2014, 02:51:49 AM
The man with whom I spake seemed very interested in my ideas, and he wrote some notes down concerning them.


Hopefully he wasn't just drawing boobs and the like to make it seem as if he was interested.


Definitely not, his notes are right here:

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/4/40940/2428341-1273513.jpg
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: HailingTheThings on May 30, 2014, 03:41:56 PM
The man with whom I spake seemed very interested in my ideas, and he wrote some notes down concerning them.


Hopefully he wasn't just drawing boobs and the like to make it seem as if he was interested.


Definitely not, his notes are right here:

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/4/40940/2428341-1273513.jpg


lol I remember seeing that in a movie, was it Big Lebowski?
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: toymachine78 on May 30, 2014, 04:37:06 PM
Built-in beer tap.
Title: Re: PC-Engine / TG16 clone
Post by: technozombie on June 09, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
If I had the resources I'd build an android based emulation device with swappable shells reminiscent of (but not clones of) various consoles. A TG16 style case would come with TG16 controller ports but have a break out cable that would add support for other controllers if some one desired. A Hucard slot and a special Hucard that accepted SD cards would be a very nice touch.