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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Medic_wheat on July 07, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
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Before I make it offical is there any interst in a raffle for a PVM monitor?
The only thing I would need the winner to do is pay for shipping other wise I don't care who/where you live.
I can post pictures and stuff. I was ordered to get rid of one of my PVM monitors by my wife as it is taking up to much space..........and she won't let me put it in storage because she claims that I would just buy more stuff to take up space (so totally right, but I still see a logic fail in her ratinal for getting rid of my extra PMV monitor to start).
UPDATE:
It's on raffle starts now and will end at the end of the month.
Partisapents:
1) Arkhan
2) Joe (Gamesack)
3) Jtucci31
4) Tron
5) VenomMacbeth
6) Bardoly
7) Turbokon
8) Bartre
9) HailingTheThings
10) Whisper2053
11) TheClash603
12) csgx1
13) toktogul
14) JKM
15) Esteban
16) EvilevoIX
I thought about taking it to a goodwill, but I doubt it would get the love it deserves to a gamer.
If the winner can't do the shipping once it is figured out, the winner will be the next person from the randomized list and so forth. I can't really give a estemite on price as I have never attempted to ship anything this heavy/big before and originaly the shipping was free when I bought it.......
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Kudos to you for this possible raffle!
I assume that your location is accurate - Texas, so that may help those who're interested, like myself. What's the size, condition, and weight? Maybe I can figure out a ballpark figure for shipping with ballpark boxed dimensions and weight.
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Enter me in the goddamn raffle thing because I am tired of trying to find one and I need to get me one.
If you take it to a goodwill, I will pee on your lawn.
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Location: Victoria, TX 77901
It is a Sony Trinitron, PVM-20M2MDU
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120946_zpsze4pfn6x.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120946_zpsze4pfn6x.jpg.html)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120940_zpsneh61hcp.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120940_zpsneh61hcp.jpg.html)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120955_zpsxrhqded9.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120955_zpsxrhqded9.jpg.html)
Included now are pictures. Apart from the crack on the bottom right corner it is all good. Does not affect function picture or anything.
The crack happened while was carrying this and its doupalganer from the front office to my apartment ...my frilly arms got Tired halfway back and I dropped the box.....and the crack happened...
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I want! I've been dying to have a good monitor for my gameses!
I wonder how much shipping it would cost, though...
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I think a PVM raffle is a very bad idea. also I couldn't imagine that any sane person would be interested in such an old tube shit that only make video games looking worse than they're already are.
and now, open that raffle :D
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I'm interested! This is a cool raffle. I've been wanting one of those for awhile. I don't speak for everyone but I don't mind paying for shipping. Pictures would be pretty cool too.
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20M2MDU is a 20" model
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I'd definitely be interested. I love RGB. I'd certainly pay shipping.
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Sweet looks like there is enough interest....
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Guys listen, I already won the raffle, everyone can go home.
How much is shipping to my pants.
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I count 7 people interested. I think it is a go.
Arkhan
Joe (Gamesack)
PunkicCyborg
Jtucci31
Tatsujin
VenomMacbeth
Bardoly
Did I miss anyone?
Still willing to add until 12 midnight July 31st
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Sign me up please?! My Panasonic Tau is a butt!!!
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Not interested but wanted to give ya a karma point for the raffle. Given the current list of applicants, it's a tough choice of who I would prefer to win between Arkhan and GameSack Joe. In the end, gonna have to go with Joe, the coolest dude that I know. GameSack4ever, brother! :P
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Not interested but wanted to give ya a karma point for the raffle. Given the current list of applicants, it's a tough choice of who I would prefer to win between Arkhan and GameSack Joe. In the end, gonna have to go with Joe, the coolest dude that I know. GameSack4ever, brother! :P
Actually instead of a traditional raffle, why not just have everyone vote? Could be a thing*, yeah?
*meaning no one votes because they're all buttholes who only like the smell of their own farts. MEH MEH MEH
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What an awesome raffle :D PVMs are lovely. Whoever gets it your in for a treat if you haven't used one before.
(No raffle entry for me please, I don't have space and the postage will probably cost $300 :))
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Sign me up i all ways wanted to join the pvm club :wink: Beside the fact i could use one for the older consoles.
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Count me in please. I have always mostly played my games on HDTV. I want to see what all the fuss is about with PVM.
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Thanks, but don't add me I was just commenting on the size. I have 5 RGB monitors already :p
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ah medic. i was just making fun in this thread. please remove me from the raffle. and thx a lot ^^
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sure, toss my name in too if you don't mind.
heck, i might even just drive down to get it :P
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I'll gladly take Tats' place :D
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sure, toss my name in too if you don't mind.
heck, i might even just drive down to get it :P
Same here! Where you at, Medic?
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sure, toss my name in too if you don't mind.
heck, i might even just drive down to get it :P
Same here! Where you at, Medic?
Victoria, TX
Butthole of no where...
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Alrighty then...
Names updated. Some added some deleted this is getting way more interest then I thought...
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I'll gladly take Tats' place :D
that will cost you.. a beer! :D
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Don't add me either, but kudos to you for an awesome raffle.
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How much does this thing weigh?
Sign me up! I've never used a monitor before and I hear it is a life changing experience!
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Awesome raffle. I've been looking for one and this size too. I'd like to join in the raffle if I could please. Thanks!
Has anyone had experience shipping or receiving something this big, fragile, and heavy? I can imagine it getting tossed around and busted up pretty easily by the shipping company.
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So nobody ever got a RGB mod done to their CRT TVs, eh ? I vaguely heard about this ages ago, but back when TV/VCR repair folks could still make a living before they went the way of most arcades, extinct.
The idea is you'd install a custom switch and four 75 Ohm prepped jacks for C-Sync, Red, Green, and Blue, and so when the switch is in the RGB-in position, it disconnects the SRGB lines from the TV tuner/output module and reroutes them to the jacks. That's the basic idea for the mod and it was apparently offered by some professionals if you'd bring your TV in. I would bet 'thesteve' knows how to do this. Now how complicated this really is, would you need a circuit for more processing in-between, I dunno, but I heard it could be done if you wanted the option to a regular CRT TV that didn't provide RGB inputs. It's a bypass mod, basically.
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I think what he ment to say is that he never used an actual monitor for gaming, except any kind of normal CRT TV sets.
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Yeah, I understood that, but I'm wondering how many knew, let alone realize such a mod could be done. See, a monitor is basically a TV without a tuner built-in and has more types of inputs (RGB). Your CRT TV has a video module with a tuner and input support for Composite, S-Video, YPbPr, RF, but no RGB. The video module either produces a video signal when it's in tuner mode or processes it from the external inputs and then produces a SRGB signal that it sends to the "guns" of the tube. If you tap those SRGB lines and have a switch to reroute them to custom jacks to input raw, 75 Ohm ready SRGB signals from a console system, you'll get all the benefits of the best analog video signal transfer. The nice CRT TV that you still have right now could be modded for SRGB input in theory, but alas, you need thesteve's brain for such an endeavour. ;)
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How much does this thing weigh?
Sign me up! I've never used a monitor before and I hear it is a life changing experience!
I am unsure of the weight, but it feels heavy...I was guessing 25-35 lbs., but since I didn't even origianly guess the right size of the screen (originaly I was thinking 15 inchs) which is 20 inches, I may be WAY off on weight.
I am guessing someone else here might be better judge of weight lol.....maybe it is closer to the 50 lbs mark?
I have added pictures of the monitor so maybe that will help.
red plush dog, and TG-16 not part of raffle lol..
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Based on interweb searchings by model number, it's 66 lbs 2 ozs. That's about $80 through USPS.
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Based on interweb searchings by model number, it's 66 lbs 2 ozs. That's about $80 through USPS.
That's still not that bad.
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Based on interweb searchings by model number, it's 66 lbs 2 ozs. That's about $80 through USPS.
WOW......might sound sad but I am surprised I was able to carry two of these in a over sized carboard box (one of which in a heavy duty plastic pellican box) and not drop them until the halfway mark.....that was WAY more weight then I thought I was lifting at the time.........still wish my girly muscles didn't give out lol...
66 lbs 2 ozs. sounds like a fact to me......
excluding anyone who may live in Canadia land or such..(I don't mind shipping so long as you don't paying for the shipping).....
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66 pounds ? That's basically about the weight of a cement bag, unless you go for the next size up of 80 lbs. I should've stuck with 60 lbs. bags last time I did some concrete walkway replacing. Hurt myself dragging those 80 pounders around, but you save money going with those instead. I needed like 24 bags so it took a toll. Anyway, I don't blame ya giving out and dropping it.
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No! Don't drop it! Bad NightWolve, bad! ;)
Yeah too bad it's not small enough to fit in a flat rate box otherwise shipping might be cheaper. Still $80 or is expected.
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add me to the list please! about to move back to canada and i have no tv hahah
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Location: Victoria, TX 77901
It is a Sony Trinitron, PVM-20M2MDU
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120946_zpsze4pfn6x.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120946_zpsze4pfn6x.jpg.html)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120940_zpsneh61hcp.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120940_zpsneh61hcp.jpg.html)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140708_120955_zpsxrhqded9.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140708_120955_zpsxrhqded9.jpg.html)
Included now are pictures. Apart from the crack on the bottom right corner it is all good. Does not affect function picture or anything.
The crack happened while was carrying this and its doupalganer from the front office to my apartment ...my frilly arms got Tired halfway back and I dropped the box.....and the crack happened...
Doesn't look to bad at least and you stated the picture is good still.
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I should probably post pictures of game play just for fun.
*I never knew of PVM monitors until a few years back when I initally joined the Neo Geo Forums.....
I didn't think at the time the video quality would be any diffrent then a CRT TV, so I walked in with low expectations......Sure I saw Video's regarding them on Youtube, but it never looked much diffrent if at all...
BUT
Then I picked up my two (soon to be one) PVM monitors and I was surprised at the diffrence....
Sure it was anoying that I had to buy speakers for it (Goodwill Boss Speakers $12) and then the component addapters for my RGB connectors (Radioshack) but man is it fun to play games on this...
The larger CRT TV I got for free.....
once again at my apartment complex next to the dumpster....had a sign on it that said "free working" so I grabed it.......Not sure if the VHS player works as I have no VHS tapes on hand, but I do know the DVD player does not work...sadly....
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add me to the list please! about to move back to canada and i have no tv hahah
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why are people participating. I already won.
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Crap. Throw my name into the Hatris.
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Oh wow! Enter me, please!
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Not looking to enter into the raffle (got me a 29" PVM this past Winter) but I gotta say - this is a badass raffle and very generous of you. +Karma.
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Thanks...I just preffer it get some use and tlc.....I'd hate to see it wast away in a goodwill or such..considering most people will get confused on what it is and why they can't hook up a HDMI cable ..
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http://forums.modretro.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=12889
So nobody familiar with the RGB mod/hack to a regular CRT TV, eh ? I Googled a bit and found someone that succeeded. Now in his case he got lucky and had a TV that was straightfoward to do.
1) You basically would switch the TV to Composite mode (whereby the TV tuner is disabled) and plug the yellow RCA jack from your console like you normally would. This establishes proper Sync as would be normal, so that's the easy part.
2) The actual mod: You basically need to tap/reroute 3 wires for RGB that go to the PCB that attaches to the tube (pictured next). The wires might be colored properly (red, green, blue), or might not as was his case since you see that 2 are white, 1 is black.
(http://i.imgur.com/3dj6LhY.jpg)
Here's his result using SNES (classic models had a perfect RGB output by default) with "The Legend of Zelda" running:
(http://i.imgur.com/eXWhfdV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/286RdvX.jpg)
He's obviously not a trained EE, did a crappy job having female RCA jacks hanging out like that afterwards, and the basic rule is you'd want a 75 Ohm resistor to ground on each jack as well (neither did he ground the jacks, but that happens at least when your yellow Composite jack is connected). But yeah, you get the basic idea for how this is done somewhat. Some TVs will NOT be this simple obviously, but it's certainly possible, some will, and it would be cool to be able to convert an old CRT TV of yours that you like into a RGB direct capable model!
Anyway, you would Google search "modding" or "hacking" "a CRT TV for RGB input" to find more info on this idea. Dunno if we already had a thread about this, doubt it, but might be worthwhile to collect and put all related info about this into one some time.
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http://forums.modretro.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=12889
So nobody familiar with the RGB mod/hack to a regular CRT TV, eh ? I Googled a bit and found someone that succeeded. Now in his case he got lucky and had a TV that was straightfoward to do.
1) You basically would switch the TV to Composite mode and plug the yellow RCA jack from your console like you normally would. This establishes proper Sync as would be normal, so that's the easy part.
2) The actual mod: You basically need to tap/reroute 3 wires for RGB that go to the PCB that attaches to the tube (pictured next). The wires might be colored properly (red, green, blue), might not, as was his case since you see that they are 2 white, one black.
(http://i.imgur.com/3dj6LhY.jpg)
Here's his result using SNES (classic models had a perfect RGB output by default) with "The Legend of Zelda" running:
(http://i.imgur.com/eXWhfdV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/286RdvX.jpg)
He's obviously not a trained EE, did a crappy job having female RCA jacks hanging out like that afterwards, and the basic rule is you'd want a 75 Ohm resistor to ground on each jack as well (neither did he ground the jacks, but that happens at least when your yellow Composite jack is connected). But yeah, you get the basic idea for how this is done somewhat. Some TVs will NOT be this simple obviously, but it's certainly possible, some will, and it would be cool to be able to convert an old CRT TV of yours that you like into a RGB direct capable model!
Anyway, you would Google search "modding" or "hacking" "a CRT TV for RGB input" to find more info on this idea. Dunno if we already had a thread about this, doubt it, but might be worthwhile to collect and put all related info about this some time.
Tis is very interesting.
Have you attempted this yourself? I might have to see about moding my CRT tv that I am keeping seeing how it is bigger........
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I kinda thought about it - it's interesting to try some time. I got a great 32" Panasonic CRT to try this with, but it needs to be researched some more first as there's some risk when messing around. The only console I have ready-to-go right now with perfect RGB output to try this with is the same SNES that he has there. My Turbo Duo is still opened up for cap replacement and the YPbPr Component mod that I need to get back to soon. This CRT of mine has good YPbPr Component inputs so I use that for everything (BluRay, PS2, etc.) and that kinda makes this idea not much of a priority.
Sidenote: Careful with opening and what you touch in a CRT TV as there are some big capacitors that might not get fully discharged after unplugging it and give you a "special surprise" you might not enjoy very much. ;)
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I recently bought a 20 inch PVM that was shipped working but arrived dead.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231262525800?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Chop5 is giving it a try to repair. Because it's not working I'm definitely interested in the raffle.
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Have you attempted this yourself? I might have to see about moding my CRT tv that I am keeping seeing how it is bigger........
YUP, I can now say yes and it IS beautiful!!!! I got interested the other night, and said what the hell, let's give it a shot after I remembered I had an old 13" CRT lying around, unused (they're ALL "monitors" technically now, not TVs, since the analog-to-digital signal switch; their tuners are defunct, so they're only good for whatever video inputs they have). I didn't wanna first experiment with my 32" entertainment center TV, so this was perfect, if I broke it I wouldn't give a shit.
So you need a CRT TV with at least a yellow Composite input jack. Following the lead of the guy that did it on his, I targeted that PCB that's connected to the tube that drives the electron guns.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRTTubePCB2.jpg)
My PCB was very simple in design and I could actually follow it a bit. There are 3 transistors, 3 big high-watt resistors at 15 kOhms in between the power to the transistors and the emitters were jumped over to go right to the guns. There were 'R' 'G' and 'B' labels and following them back to a set of 5 wires, I could make a good guess as to which of the 3 were for RGB. Like him, they weren't colored specifically, mine were all gray, but I used markers and nail polish to color them accordingly:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRTTubePCB.jpg)
That PCB can come off as he did there above, but if there is enough labeling on the backside, better to leave it alone. But yeah, for research, you may have to in order to get a better look on the topside of the PCB. I had to since that's where the labeling was and I didn't wanna make any mistakes.
So I clip the 3 wires I was pretty sure are the RGB lines, I brought my SNES out, had to tap the standard RGB outputs as I didn't have the SCART cable that the Multi-AV out supported, hooked up the Composite jack, connected the 3 wires up once I had everything in position and gave it a shot!! Well, the only hiccup was that the signal was too strong/bright, so I turned down the pot for brightness at this thing:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRT-loptx.jpg)
That's the only adjustment I had to make. Never touch the pot for focus, but this you can as it's essentially the "master brightness" set at the factory. I wouldn't recommend this, but I did it cause I didn't care about going back and turning down the brightness digitally via the TV's digital menu system, nor could I at that point!
See, once you clip those RGB lines from the motherboard, you are no longer going to get the benefit of the OCD Operating System of the TV, the menus to control sound, video, channel adding/delete, that's all disconnected and your console is in full direct control of whatever is shown, so to do the mod right, you need a switch that reconnects those 3 wires so you can reset everything to its defaults and change something as need be.
The results: So just after turning down the brightness, I tried many SNES games I had handy, and I gotta tell ya, it was beautiful, like arcade or close to emulator mode. Many details were readable, like in "Super Street Fighter II," Dee Jay's "Maximum" labeled on his pants (never noticed that before)! There were ZERO issues about green levels or tint or black levels, it was all perfect after brightness adjustment! Pure RGB goodness.
Now, I am confused, I had that SNES still unfinished for a Component mod, but this seems so much better. And what to do about my Turbo Duo, to date, nobody has shown me what is the best RGB amplifier circuit for it and I think I would like to have one now, but I already picked out the real estate for the Component jacks to use steve's circuit, so I'd have to use the DIN for RGB if I wanted it or something... :/
(http://i.imgur.com/eXWhfdV.jpg)
My shit was way better than that!! Way better, games like "Super Mario World" came alive, solid, clean colors, no wavy interference, clear, crisp, shimmering completely gone, etc. I would reconnect the lines and then compare with Composite, so of course I got highly contrasting results as even S-Video/Component improve things quite a bit from Composite. Differences wouldn't be so stark going from S-Video/YPbPr to RGB as they are from Composite being the point.
Anyhow, I *think* I might try to make a thread for this and possibly record a video.
Conclusion: RGB is DEFINITELY worth it! And if an old, crappy CRT TV can be turned into an Arcade-like monitor by cutting/rerouting 3 wires, F--KIN' A! You still need steve's brain to get the exact way to properly set up the inputs, I'll have to stop by the chatroom some time and pick his brain for ideas, but yeah, it works beautifully in the case of this particular TV. No guarantee it'll be as easy or that I'll get the same results for my 32" TV, but I'm gonna try it some time now that it worked for this 13" model!
Oh yes, as far as specs, the 13" TV is made by some no-name brand "Orion" and was manufactured in 2003 (No, not in China, Thailand actually). It's mono, has 2 jacks in front for audio and Composite, and one RF jack in the back, that's it. Pretty cheap.
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UPDATE:
The drawing may be held for the end of next week will let people know next Friday.
Reason for speed up on drawing is because my wife and I have had interviews for transfering to another city (bigger). If our request are accepted we will be moving and most likely starting these positions begining of August. Less stuff I need to move the better.....
I will have my interveiw next Thursday and we expect to know if it is a hard yes/no by the end of that week.
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Have you attempted this yourself? I might have to see about moding my CRT tv that I am keeping seeing how it is bigger........
YUP, I can now say yes and it IS beautiful!!!! I got interested the other night, and said what the hell, let's give it a shot after I remembered I had an old 13" CRT lying around, unused (they're ALL "monitors" technically now, not TVs, since the analog-to-digital signal switch; their tuners are defunct, so they're only good for whatever video inputs they have). I didn't wanna first experiment with my 32" entertainment center TV, so this was perfect, if I broke it I wouldn't give a shit.
So you need a CRT TV with at least a yellow Composite input jack. Following the lead of the guy that did it on his, I targeted that PCB that's connected to the tube that drives the electron guns.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRTTubePCB2.jpg)
My PCB was very simple in design and I could actually follow it a bit. There are 3 transistors, 3 big high-watt resistors at 15 kOhms in between the power to the transistors and the emitters were jumped over to go right to the guns. There were 'R' 'G' and 'B' labels and following them back to a set of 5 wires, I could make a good guess as to which of the 3 were for RGB. Like him, they weren't colored specifically, mine were all gray, but I used markers and nail polish to color them accordingly:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRTTubePCB.jpg)
That PCB can come off as he did there above, but if there is enough labeling on the backside, better to leave it alone. But yeah, for research, you may have to in order to get a better look on the topside of the PCB. I had to since that's where the labeling was and I didn't wanna make any mistakes.
So I clip the 3 wires I was pretty sure are the RGB lines, I brought my SNES out, had to tap the standard RGB outputs as I didn't have the SCART cable that the Multi-AV out supported, hooked up the Composite jack, connected the 3 wires up once I had everything in position and gave it a shot!! Well, the only hiccup was that the signal was too strong/bright, so I turned down the pot for brightness at this thing:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/Sephiroth1975/Tech/CRT-loptx.jpg)
That's the only adjustment I had to make. Never touch the pot for focus, but this you can as it's essentially the "master brightness" set at the factory. I wouldn't recommend this, but I did it cause I didn't care about going back and turning down the brightness digitally via the TV's digital menu system, nor could I at that point!
See, once you clip those RGB lines from the motherboard, you are no longer going to get the benefit of the OCD Operating System of the TV, the menus to control sound, video, channel adding/delete, that's all disconnected and your console is in full direct control of whatever is shown, so to do the mod right, you need a switch that reconnects those 3 wires so you can reset everything to its defaults and change something as need be.
The results: So just after turning down the brightness, I tried many SNES games I had handy, and I gotta tell ya, it was beautiful, like arcade or close to emulator mode. Many details were readable, like in "Super Street Fighter II," Dee Jay's "Maximum" labeled on his pants (never noticed that before)! There were ZERO issues about green levels or tint or black levels, it was all perfect after brightness adjustment! Pure RGB goodness.
Now, I am confused, I had that SNES still unfinished for a Component mod, but this seems so much better. And what to do about my Turbo Duo, to date, nobody has shown me what is the best RGB amplifier circuit for it and I think I would like to have one now, but I already picked out the real estate for the Component jacks to use steve's circuit, so I'd have to use the DIN for RGB if I wanted it or something... :/
(http://i.imgur.com/eXWhfdV.jpg)
My shit was way better than that!! Way better, games like "Super Mario World" came alive, solid, clean colors, no wavy interference, clear, crisp, shimmering completely gone, etc. I would reconnect the lines and then compare with Composite, so of course I got highly contrasting results as even S-Video/Component improve things quite a bit from Composite. Differences wouldn't be so stark going from S-Video/YPbPr to RGB as they are from Composite being the point.
Anyhow, I *think* I might try to make a thread for this and possibly record a video.
Conclusion: RGB is DEFINITELY worth it! And if an old, crappy CRT TV can be turned into an Arcade-like monitor by cutting/rerouting 3 wires, F--KIN' A! You still need steve's brain to get the exact way to properly set up the inputs, I'll have to stop by the chatroom some time and pick his brain for ideas, but yeah, it works beautifully in the case of this particular TV. No guarantee it'll be as easy or that I'll get the same results for my 32" TV, but I'm gonna try it some time now that it worked for this 13" model!
Oh yes, as far as specs, the 13" TV is made by some no-name brand "Orion" and was manufactured in 2003 (No, not in China, Thailand actually). It's mono, has 2 jacks in front for audio and Composite, and one RF jack in the back, that's it. Pretty cheap.
Nice work but just be careful working on that CRT chassis especially if you don't even know what the thing is you adjusted the brightness on is called (the flyback) which holds a very high charge. The average person shouldn't do this kind of work as it is very dangerous especially if the tube is not discharged properly and it is not safe to do any soldering anywhere even the yoke pcb if it's not discharged. Might want to include those kind of warnings if you do make a guide
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Very true. How do you properly discharge a CRT tube?
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Very true. How do you properly discharge a CRT tube?
You have to disconnect the anode cab from the tube with a flathead screwdriver that has a wire attached to it and to the monitor frame. There's lots of good guides online and videos on youtube on how to do it safely but it's still not something most people should be attempting
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Back when I worked as a tech for Chuck E Cheese I was always nervous about working on monitors because of how much they stressed it was very dangerous to work on them during training. Punkic is right re: grounding a screwdriver to the frame, but I always flinched a bit when I had to do it. :)
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So, how does the picture on a unit like this compare to the picture on something like a Sony Trinitron WEGA or similar?
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NICE add me!
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Really quick anyone know a good randomizer I can use to figure out the winner of this raffle?
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list randomizer - https://www.random.org/lists/
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Winner picked (found a site thanks)
Please PM me with address and stuff, and I'll notify you later today once I figure out what exact shipping will be.
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If winner is unable to accept, or declines then the next person on the winning list will have their chance to get the PMV.
and so forth...
until it is shiped.
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Not interested but wanted to give ya a karma point for the raffle. Given the current list of applicants, it's a tough choice of who I would prefer to win between Arkhan and GameSack Joe. In the end, gonna have to go with Joe, the coolest dude that I know. GameSack4ever, brother! :P
Hey, I picked the winner!!! I called it! ;) It's Joe ReadiferA_PVM!
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Awesome! I don't think I've ever won anything before. Looking forward to it! Huzzah!
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Okay got the PM from the winner.
Will update once item is shiped.
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Congrats Joe!
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Congrats Joe now you will have a proper way to run the older consoles.
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Sweet. Now I still don't have a way to RGB demo stuff at conventions.
THANKS ALOT RANDOMIZER.
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hahaha, well done joe :D
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(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/medic_wheat/20140808_205739_zpsquhsxwii.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/medic_wheat/media/20140808_205739_zpsquhsxwii.jpg.html)
Just a heads up I have yet to ship the winner thr monitor due to my moving. Will get it out just focusing on the move to another city this weekend.
Good thing is ill have lots of materials to pack it with. ......
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So is the deal set, was Joe Readifer actually paying the shipping on this cement bag weighing PVM ?? ;)
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So is the deal set, was Joe Readifer actually paying the shipping on this cement bag weighing PVM ?? ;)
Yes....Although I have not gotten a shipping quote. So there might still be wiggle room....
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Got the PVM in a week ago today. Unfortunately since the monitor had been dropped once in its life and likely kicked around more by FedEx just for fun, the power button didn't work. It was stuck. I tried to pull it out, but then it fell into the chassis. Byron came over (fellow forum member BlueBMW) and installed a high tech paperclip solution to the power button.
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/pvm1.jpg)
The monitor sitting in its temporary location.
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/pvm2.jpg)
Push to power on, pull to power off. This is a temporary solution until I can buy more fishing line.
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/pvm3.jpg)
Here's Out Run on the Sega Saturn. You'll notice that it is in the 60fps mode. I mean I noticed as I was playing so I assume you'll notice as you look at this still picture.
(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/pvm4.jpg)
Close-up! Good, but still a little smearing here and there. I am using component transcoded from RGB because I do not yet have a SCART to BNC breakout cable, but I'll get one soon.
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Glad to see it us working
When you told me paperclips were use to turn it on i had to see it.
Somehoe makes me think of my first tv as a kid. I used a pair of pliers to change the stations on the dial face.
Now I want an old tv like that again. Minus the pliers lol
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Awesome!
My first TV I had in my room when I was a kid is still with me today. It also lost its power button and now needs something stuck in the hole to turn it on. I think this "feature" adds charm to old TVs
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Joe:
I bought my SCART to BNC converter from these guys; it included the PVM sync fix built right in to the cable housing. You could probably make one cheaper from scratch, but the build quality on this thing is insanely good (plus I didn't feel like burning through a whole weekend to save $45):
http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sony-pvm-scart-converter-bnc.html
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Lookin' good, Joe, even with the paper clip mod. :mrgreen:
..... needs something stuck in the hole to turn it on.
Sounds sexy. :lol: