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Title: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Tatsujin on July 22, 2014, 04:12:55 PM
http://www.retrogamer.net/top_10/top-ten-pc-engine-games/

beside a top10 PCE is way too short for an amazing system that the PCE is, not even bad considering that niche games like gomola have made it into it.

but no gate of thunder, winds of thunder, star parodier, nexzr etc?
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: roflmao on July 22, 2014, 04:44:11 PM
That wouldn't be *my* top 10, but those are all excellent picks. :)
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Black Tiger on July 22, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
It's neat that the PCE gets mentioned from time to time in various places, but that list reads like a typical "I just found out about the PC Engine 30 min" article. Complete with multiple out-of-context "8-bit" references, oblivious to the complete R-Type TurboChip (while still giving matter-of-fact recommendations to "collectors"), "Splatterhouse is hard to tell apart from the arcade", Genjin games were multi-plat because the Turbo tanked, SFII' can't use the tap or 6 button pads, Spriggan is a Super CD, etc.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Tatsujin on July 22, 2014, 11:01:18 PM
lol yeah. didn't even read that deep into the discriptions.

tons of erata to be found. also that spriggan mark 2 is not made by compile, when even the title screen says it. lol.

but the splatterhouse text is funny too. saying that the mcfly version is so superior, but pce comes close to arcade, when the marty version in fact is nothing different than the arcade version or even bit worser (graphically wise). autsch.

paul should hold an educational word with them.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Otaking on July 22, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
That wouldn't be *my* top 10, but those are all excellent picks. :)
+1
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Tatsujin on July 23, 2014, 12:44:10 AM
and the legacy goes on

http://www.retrogamer.net/top_10/top-ten-pc-engine-gt-games/
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Necromancer on July 23, 2014, 02:40:16 AM
Like B.T. said, it's cool seeing peeps enjoy the OBEY but would it kill 'em to do a little research and get their shit straight?
Title: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: esteban on July 23, 2014, 03:59:53 AM
Like B.T. said, it's cool seeing peeps enjoy the OBEY but would it kill 'em to do a little research and get their shit straight?

Exactly.




It's neat that the PCE gets mentioned from time to time in various places, but that list reads like a typical "I just found out about the PC Engine 30 min" article. Complete with multiple out-of-context "8-bit" references, oblivious to the complete R-Type TurboChip (while still giving matter-of-fact recommendations to "collectors"), "Splatterhouse is hard to tell apart from the arcade", Genjin games were multi-plat because the Turbo tanked, SFII' can't use the tap or 6 button pads, Spriggan is a Super CD, etc.


30-35 minutes, tops.


You gotta love this, I guess RetroGamer's quality hasn't improved much (I had a subscription back in 2005-2006, and while I totally enjoyed reading it, even I could find errors with many articles. I didn't have a clue on the UK computer scene, though, so I enjoyed those articles the most.

I liked the interviews with 80's developers the most, though.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Otaking on July 23, 2014, 04:45:12 AM
I used to be a subscriber to Retro Gamer magazine for years, even though it wasn't perfect and made the odd mistake I still thought it was great to have a printed magazine in this era.

This other "Retro" magazine http://www.readretro.com (http://www.readretro.com/) also piqued my interest but I never got round to subscribing.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: esteban on July 23, 2014, 08:08:30 AM

I used to be a subscriber to Retro Gamer magazine for years, even though it wasn't perfect and made the odd mistake I still thought it was great to have a printed magazine in this era.

This other "Retro" magazine http://www.readretro.com (http://www.readretro.com/) also piqued my interest but I never got round to subscribing.


I'll check that out.

I'm a finicky person. If someone is writing about a domain I'm knowledgable in, I am rarely pleased. If someone is writing about a topic beyond my experience, though, I am much less worried about any flaws, even though they are probably there. IGNORANCE IS TRULY BLISS.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: lukester on July 23, 2014, 08:57:34 AM
and the legacy goes on

http://www.retrogamer.net/top_10/top-ten-pc-engine-gt-games/


"Super Adventure Island" :\

Also, I think Parasol Stars is a better choice than Don Doko Don.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Nando on July 23, 2014, 09:00:18 AM
There are so many great threads here with so much insight about the history of our beloved Obey that it needs to be turned into an article and shared across the Internets.... Hmmmmm *gears spinning*

The PCFX Tome of Obey
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 23, 2014, 09:42:45 AM
Don Doko Don should not be in there.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Black Tiger on July 23, 2014, 09:54:40 AM
Retro Gamer was fun to read and like a European Gamefan.

Retro is the worst mag I've ever flipped through and caters to hip collectors.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: bob on July 23, 2014, 10:39:57 AM
These were printed in retro gamer like a year ago. They just posted this online now?
Its interesting, there has been some turbo/PCE activity in the RG forum lately. I think they might have more of a feature in the works. Coming soon?  Who knows.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: awbacon on July 28, 2014, 02:09:24 PM
Glad bomberman 94 made the list. Second favorite behind Saturn bomberman

I feel like Rondo is too easy of a pick though. Love the game, but so many other good ones available (same with SF II)
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Nando on July 29, 2014, 05:46:29 AM

I feel like Rondo is too easy of a pick though. Love the game, but so many other good ones available (same with SF II)

They define overall quality with graphics, sound and play mechanics. They stood out then and now because they are great games. They became popular and stayed relevant because of all that.

Now if they had a, top ten undiscovered gems, then that's another story.

Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10p
Post by: Otaking on July 29, 2014, 05:56:23 AM
I feel like Rondo is too easy of a pick though. Love the game, but so many other good ones available
Any PCE top 10 without Dracula X in it would be a travesty.
:D
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: Black Tiger on July 29, 2014, 07:54:57 AM
I feel like Rondo is too easy of a pick though. Love the game, but so many other good ones available
Any PCE top 10 without Dracula X in it would be a travesty.
:D

It's not hard to think of a top ten or maybe even a top 20 without Drac X if you appreciate stuff like RPGs, War Sims and Shooters.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: johnnymad on July 29, 2014, 10:24:12 AM
This thread is very helpful. I know all "top random number lists" are opinions but it at least points newer people to games that are highly regarded by some.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: munchiaz on July 30, 2014, 08:04:13 AM
clearly some flaws in the articles for sure. Still nice to see some spot light on the PCE. They could just keep doing SNES top whatever list.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: ultrageranium on July 31, 2014, 11:08:34 AM
I'd consider any article title starting with "Top something" or "Best whatever" being nothing but SEO link bait.
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: TheClash603 on July 31, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
This top 10 games is actually included in the Videogames Hardware Handbook:

http://www.amazon.com/Retro-Gamer-Videogames-Hardware-Handbook/dp/329102334X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406857103&sr=8-1&keywords=videogame+hardware+handbook

I bought this and it is all over the map.  Some of the systems' write-ups are relatively well-written, some of the systems' write-ups are complete shit, and then some are just perplexing.  The NES article for example talks about how the system is where "Mascots such as Mario and Kirby were born."
Title: Re: RetroGamer PCE Top10
Post by: nosorrow on September 16, 2014, 12:40:35 PM
Indeed, it's pretty bad. I have the Handbook too and while nice to have, it's generally disappointing. I much prefer the retro collecting write-ups Edge did in 2003-2004 (which were later collated in a nice dedicated one-off magazine they called Retro: the PC Engine article in there is much more thorough and interesting).

This is also a terrible quote btw:
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One has to wonder just how Naxat Soft managed to do it, considering the generally average quality of its other games.

WTF Retro Gamer...

Anyways, I stopped subscribing to the magazine last year after buying every issue since 2009. I grew increasingly frustrated at its general "fluff" treatment of Japanese consoles: they were always treading the same ground and rehashing common knowledge. (Doesn't help that I couldn't care less about the computers they had in the UK nor the homebrew scene, which gets an absurd five pages or something in the mag.)