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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: toymachine78 on August 31, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
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Thinking about taking the Neo Geo plunge. Like Joe says.... What good is money? Lol
I'm on the fence though... What is the best option? The AES hardware and software is expensive. I can get a sweet 4 Slot MVS cabinet locally for $900. And a consolized MVS is more expensive than the AES hardware, yet the games are cheaper...
What us the best way to enter the neo geo scene? I even considered the neo geo X.... Ewweeeee....
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Thinking about taking the Neo Geo plunge. Like Joe says.... What good is money? Lol
I'm on the fence though... What is the best option? The AES hardware and software is expensive. I can get a sweet 4 Slot MVS cabinet locally for $900. And a consolized MVS is more expensive than the AES hardware, yet the games are cheaper...
What us the best way to enter the neo geo scene? I even considered the neo geo X.... Ewweeeee....
Don't.
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Thinking about taking the Neo Geo plunge. Like Joe says.... What good is money? Lol
I'm on the fence though... What is the best option? The AES hardware and software is expensive. I can get a sweet 4 Slot MVS cabinet locally for $900. And a consolized MVS is more expensive than the AES hardware, yet the games are cheaper...
What us the best way to enter the neo geo scene? I even considered the neo geo X.... Ewweeeee....
Don't.
Why so?
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SNK
Also, this thread is going to summon Evol like saying Candyman three times in a mirror.
Please abort.
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The ng forums were flooded with noob complaints that bought the ngx. A modded psp is muchbetter.
I went aes (sold it) then kept my mvs and ngcd. MVS is cheaper than aes. The ngcd plays cdrs but the load times can be annoying.
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I have owned both AES and MVS stuff in the past but sold it and got out about 10 years ago. If you really just want to play the games on original hardware MVS all the way. If you really like collectable stuff that will break your bank account AES.
Most really must own neogeo games are not that pricey on MVS relative to AES unless you are collecting full arcade kits. You can be paying easily $300 and up for decent AES games.
As far as hardware goes, when I had a MVS setup instead of getting a consolized one, I just invested in a good supergun and then got the board. If you look around you can find ones that even can support AES and neo geo cd pads. Then you can also hook up jamma, CPS2, etc, although getting into arcade pcbs is also slippery expensive slope.
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Used to own a neo geo CDZ, load times sucked.
Aes games are too expensive, and MVs games look ugly.
Just buy a wii or wii u, and use the virtual console.
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I have only played one MVS outside of the arcade and it was friggin' mono. Not sure what was up with that. But for me the AES performs better. It runs closer to a broadcast legal spec whereas the MVS is slower for some bizarre reason. It doesn't need to be, but it is. You won't notice it, but your electronics might. Mine sure did.
People will tell you MVS left and right because its cheaper but make no mistake, MVS owners are still a very elitist bunch just like AES owners. It's just that MVS owners seem to be filled with more hate towards AES owners than AES owners have towards MVS owners. MVS guys really, REALLY hate the AES.
I really wish there was an AES Everdrive. This would make the Neo Geo community's brains explode. Good. I'd be fine with that.
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Split the difference and go with a consolized mvs like the Omega. Video quality is great and you can buy the cheaper, yet identical versions of the games. The initial hardware purchase will be more than the aes, but it more than makes up for it after a couple of games. Once you have a unibios in the mix, there really isn't much difference between mvs and aes other than packaging and cost.
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Get the various ports. The original stuff is overrated. For non-fighters, a NGCD is just fine.
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I have only played one MVS outside of the arcade and it was friggin' mono. Not sure what was up with that. But for me the AES performs better. It runs closer to a broadcast legal spec whereas the MVS is slower for some bizarre reason. It doesn't need to be, but it is. You won't notice it, but your electronics might. Mine sure did.
People will tell you MVS left and right because its cheaper but make no mistake, MVS owners are still a very elitist bunch just like AES owners. It's just that MVS owners seem to be filled with more hate towards AES owners than AES owners have towards MVS owners. MVS guys really, REALLY hate the AES.
I really wish there was an AES Everdrive. This would make the Neo Geo community's brains explode. Good. I'd be fine with that.
The AES on its own is just mono I believe..? But I'm sure modding to S-Vid or even RGB would be the obvious solution. And then with the unibios installed, you'd be set in terms of AES stuff.
But the elitism from both sides makes it difficult to decide what's best. And the NeoGeo community in general seems intimidating. An AES everdrive would be amazing.
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I had AES for a few months.... Sold it and stuck with just MVS and CD. AES looks cool but is hardly worth the price of admission.
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The AES on its own is just mono I believe..?
It's stereo.
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Only AES if you're filthy rich but if not then a CMVS is the way to go.I Never play a ngcd,so i can't give any advice on it.In the end a cmvs pay's itself off since you don't spend a fortune on games.
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I was a big AES supporter a few years ago, because the high priced games seemed to be only the Metal Slugs (which could be found in 100 other places) and a handful of rare fighting games. However, it seems that even common AES games are now all selling for $100+.
It was less than 5 years ago I bought my AES stuff and I have over 40 games and a lot of them are really great. I am a big beat-em-up fan, which I why I bought the AES. Other than Sengoku 3 which was too expensive even then, I bought most of my games for reasonable prices. Now games like Robo Army, Mutation Nation, Sengoku 2, and Cyber Lip are selling for absurd prices.
Maybe a AES + 161-in-1 cart? I have been thinking about getting one of those.
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You are pretty late to the game.... Even though MVS is still cheaper in most cases, all the CMVS guys have drove MVS carts way up. You can still get an MVS board cheap and do a CMVS mod yourself and just get a multi cart. Rest of the games not on the multi are usually the carts that are becoming more expensive so good luck.
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As above, get a cheap MV-1F -- it accepts AES/CD joysticks easily, has a switch and header on the motherboard for stereo audio, and takes up very little space. I got a 1F for about $30-$40, and a couple of multicarts for $70-$100. Heresy, but I don't care.
Of course, this route means you have to make a power supply and video cables/encoder yourself, but is the convenience worth $900?
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Even the encoder you get pre made from jrok or neobitz so all you would need is the psu really. super easy
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Stick with MVS. An AES system will require a bunch of mods to be worthwile and in the end will cost at least as much as a decent CMVS. MVS carts tend to be cheaper as well and there are lots of multi-game carts to use to try out games before dropping a lot of money on them.
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Hmmm.... Thanks guys. That gives me quite a bit to think on. Ill prob stay away completely or go with the 4 slot cabinet. I've been wanting an arcade cab for a while. The 4 slot comes with 4 games, and if I get the 161n1 it seems like the best deal for $900. I could prob sell the 4 games in the thing and get the multi cart to offset the price quite a bit. After all most single game cabs are $900 +.
One other question.... Are there any hidden costs to owning a cabinet?
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That's a lot of money for a 6 slot though.... For $900 it better be mint/restored and come with some expensive games. $400 is about right for a 4 slot and up to $600 if it's loaded with some decent games
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That's a lot of money for a 6 slot though.... For $900 it better be mint/restored and come with some expensive games. $400 is about right for a 4 slot and up to $600 if it's loaded with some decent games
It comes with Aereo Fighters 2, samurai showdown, metal slug, and king of fighters.
Cab is in great shape. New sticks, buttons, and overlays, and refurbished monitor.
The price seems fair. There are cheaper units on eBay, but they are still around $500-600 for a 2-3 slot, plus I would have to pay freight.
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still way too much im sure you can know the price down a third easily. Those are all pretty common games too.
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One other question.... Are there any hidden costs to owning a cabinet?
Yes....your sanity :p
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I was considering getting into neogeo recently. Looked into the Neogeo Gold X but decided not to. Recently discovered a lot of the SNK games were ported into a Wii collection and I can always mod my PSP. Going with one of those options. Quality will be crap on the Wii though so maybe the latter will be the best choice.
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One other question.... Are there any hidden costs to owning a cabinet?
Yes....your sanity :p
That's already questionable lol :)
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I was a big AES supporter a few years ago, because the high priced games seemed to be only the Metal Slugs (which could be found in 100 other places) and a handful of rare fighting games. However, it seems that even common AES games are now all selling for $100+.
It was less than 5 years ago I bought my AES stuff and I have over 40 games and a lot of them are really great.
Even then, the $50, $60, $75 games were still too much for my taste. I'd much rather put that money into Turbo games.
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I agree with Cy that $900 is a bit high for that cab, but sometimes having the stuff all ready done for you is worth the premium price. Depending on where you are you can wait months or years to find a decent deal just to have the flyback or something else shit out on you two weeks later.
If you go by current market for the stuff your looking at...($400 for a good cab-if the EL panels work it's a goddamn miracle, $150 for monitor rebuild, $150 for the games and $50 for new controls)....so shoot the guy a $750 offer and see if it sticks.
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IF I were to take the plunge, I'd go CMVS...
AES Consoles/Games are more eye pleasing...but CMVS is just so much more economical, and some CMVS's look pretty damned slick...in the end it's about the software on the cart, not the cart itself.
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One other question.... Are there any hidden costs to owning a cabinet?
Only costs would be if something failed like the monitor or pcb which does happen on these old cabs. You will be doing more than just turn it on and play it. If you dont have any electronics experience now you will after owning one. You will need to learn how to trace wires, read voltages, adjust color and video pots, read basic diagrams but that can all be fun to learn
One thing though I can advise is don't jump on the first cab you see if the cab or deal are not up to what you are looking for at the price. You can find a better one if you are patient
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I agree with Cy that $900 is a bit high for that cab, but sometimes having the stuff all ready done for you is worth the premium price. Depending on where you are you can wait months or years to find a decent deal just to have the flyback or something else shit out on you two weeks later.
If you go by current market for the stuff your looking at...($400 for a good cab-if the EL panels work it's a goddamn miracle, $150 for monitor rebuild, $150 for the games and $50 for new controls)....so shoot the guy a $750 offer and see if it sticks.
This. Especially if it's your first cabinet. You want it to work and not have to mess about with it in a months' time. Yeah the cab is a little on the expensive side, but if the monitor has just been refurbed (new flyback/caps, tweaked etc) then you should be good for a while.
I dumped my AES for MVS about two years ago because the AES games were just breaking the bank, and I've never looked back to be honest. With the money I got from selling the AES stuff I got a six slot cabinet and quite a few carts of games that I would never own on AES (Metal Slug, Sengoku 3 etc).
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The 4 slot comes with 4 games, and if I get the 161n1 it seems like the best deal for $900. I could prob sell the 4 games in the thing and get the multi cart to offset the price quite a bit. After all most single game cabs are $900 +.
One other question.... Are there any hidden costs to owning a cabinet?
Is your location driving the price up? MVS cabs have been fairly easy to source from $100-300 in my area via CL and arcade auctions. I'd recommend a 1-slot...not like you gonna play 4 games at once plus you get JAMMA out of the box. I know everyone that starts cab collecting want's a four slut...you might not be persuaded to go that route, but at least I said it. I've not been keeping up on prices, but a local cab collector made a comment about the rise of MVS carts recently.
As for hidden cost, the only one I know is that you cannot just get one cab...it's like tattoos.
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As someone who started MVS then sold everything and converted to AES, I can say without hesitation that you should either:
1.) Get a pre-built CMVS like the Omega
2.) Bite the bullet and buy an MVS 4-Slot cabinet (or a 6-slot if you find a good deal)
If this was six years ago I might tell you to go AES but the prices have just gotten out of hand. Even the common games are trending north of $100 each. For comparison, six years ago you could get Magician Lord, SamSho 1&2 and some Art of Fighting games as a package deal for $100...hell my initial AES setup with system, 3 CIB games and a controller was $150.
Anything sought after for the AES (Last Blades, later KOF's, Metal Slugs, Garou) are damn near unattainable unless you shell out some serious coin. Which is silly when those games are easily available on other platforms or on MVS for a fraction of the price.
The one thing that I will say is that the AES looks sweet, the game boxes/carts are badass and the system is very easy to mod (I did S-Video / AV / UniBios self-install with very little experience at the time).
MVS cabs though are really where it's at - it's the format that the games were intended to be played on and frankly it's one of the best arcade cabinets ever made. I slammed quarters into those things for years and years growing up.
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The one thing that I will say is that the AES looks sweet, the game boxes/carts are badass and the system is very easy to mod...............
MVS is nice enough. Just buy some Shock boxes, and art, if you wan tit to look pretty or so you can figure out what the Japanese labels on the cart are for. Either way, depending on how much money you want to spill, there are options out there for NG.
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The one thing that I will say is that the AES looks sweet, the game boxes/carts are badass and the system is very easy to mod...............
MVS is nice enough. Just buy some Shock boxes, and art, if you wan tit to look pretty or so you can figure out what the Japanese labels on the cart are for. Either way, depending on how much money you want to spill, there are options out there for NG.
Very true - the shock boxes are nice with the printed inserts. I still have Fatal Fury and Neo Turf Masters MVS on my shelf with BigBear's (NG.com) original Shock Boxes. *Cough* they're available for sale *cough*
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I have only played one MVS outside of the arcade and it was friggin' mono. Not sure what was up with that. But for me the AES performs better. It runs closer to a broadcast legal spec whereas the MVS is slower for some bizarre reason. It doesn't need to be, but it is. You won't notice it, but your electronics might. Mine sure did.
People will tell you MVS left and right because its cheaper but make no mistake, MVS owners are still a very elitist bunch just like AES owners. It's just that MVS owners seem to be filled with more hate towards AES owners than AES owners have towards MVS owners. MVS guys really, REALLY hate the AES.
I really wish there was an AES Everdrive. This would make the Neo Geo community's brains explode. Good. I'd be fine with that.
I wouldn't say I hate AES owners....
I just can't affored AES games lol.......
well okay I have like two AES games (the cheapest of the cheap) and that one system that was region moded I bought of the Neo Geo Forums a few years ago....
No Totally Joe if a EverDrive was made that worked for either AES/MVS "systems" I'd be all over that.
It would make my one-slot MVS board so happy ...........and I wouldn't have to condend with those (okay but kinda crudy) 101 MVS carts......I say kinda crudy becuase you can't select what is in them, and alot of it is ROM hacked junk.
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The one thing that I will say is that the AES looks sweet, the game boxes/carts are badass and the system is very easy to mod...............
MVS is nice enough. Just buy some Shock boxes, and art, if you wan tit to look pretty or so you can figure out what the Japanese labels on the cart are for. Either way, depending on how much money you want to spill, there are options out there for NG.
Very true - the shock boxes are nice with the printed inserts. I still have Fatal Fury and Neo Turf Masters MVS on my shelf with BigBear's (NG.com) original Shock Boxes. *Cough* they're available for sale *cough*
I kind of liked those cardboard boxes that one guy in the UK was or possibly still is making for the MVS carts. They were snug, took up less space, and had a cleaner look.
I never bit the bullet on them though, as I kept waiting for a sumer sale, or some sort of bundle as I am cheap......then I sorta forgot all about them until just now.
Hummm.....
Did anyoen on the Neo Geo Forums ever make those sticker sets for the sides of the boxes for the game art/covers?
I tend to remember a fourm member toying with the idea to add a little jazz to it all...but I don't recall ever seeing any finished products...
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The one thing that I will say is that the AES looks sweet, the game boxes/carts are badass and the system is very easy to mod...............
MVS is nice enough. Just buy some Shock boxes, and art, if you wan tit to look pretty or so you can figure out what the Japanese labels on the cart are for. Either way, depending on how much money you want to spill, there are options out there for NG.
Very true - the shock boxes are nice with the printed inserts. I still have Fatal Fury and Neo Turf Masters MVS on my shelf with BigBear's (NG.com) original Shock Boxes. *Cough* they're available for sale *cough*
I kind of liked those cardboard boxes that one guy in the UK was or possibly still is making for the MVS carts. They were snug, took up less space, and had a cleaner look.
I never bit the bullet on them though, as I kept waiting for a sumer sale, or some sort of bundle as I am cheap......then I sorta forgot all about them until just now.
Hummm.....
Did anyoen on the Neo Geo Forums ever make those sticker sets for the sides of the boxes for the game art/covers?
I tend to remember a fourm member toying with the idea to add a little jazz to it all...but I don't recall ever seeing any finished products...
I just remember the guy ymmmmmvs, that people used to joke about digging carts out of the trash. They played fine, at least for me.
I like the shockboxes, and some art. Good idea. Not much more to say about it, than that, other than I don't like bears. Scary, ate my parents, and all (Big Bear. Fill in the blanks.)
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I kind of liked those cardboard boxes that one guy in the UK was or possibly still is making for the MVS carts. They were snug, took up less space, and had a cleaner look.
I never bit the bullet on them though, as I kept waiting for a sumer sale, or some sort of bundle as I am cheap......then I sorta forgot all about them until just now.
Hummm.....
Did anyoen on the Neo Geo Forums ever make those sticker sets for the sides of the boxes for the game art/covers?
I tend to remember a fourm member toying with the idea to add a little jazz to it all...but I don't recall ever seeing any finished products...
I believe it was Chris at Windygaming doing them. You buy the cases needed and he included a CD with all of the spine images.
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MVS carts have a nifty hardcore look to them:
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/mvs2_zpsf3f60916.jpg)
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Wasnt metal slug 5 on the atomic wave?
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MVS carts have a nifty hardcore look to them:
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac253/bmcdanold/mvs2_zpsf3f60916.jpg)
Show off lol:)
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This could be you! If you go MVS that is.... ;)
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No Sengoku 3? Filthy casual.
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Only Sengoku :(
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Wasnt metal slug 5 on the atomic wave?
MS5 neo-geo,MS6 is the one on the sammy,atomiswave.
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As stated, it's a bit too late to get into the AES game for normal people. Haven't bought a new cart in roughly 4 years or so... I love the shooties.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/HI3F0139_zpsf84ffe8b.jpg)
And the Slugs, gotta have the Slugs!
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/Game Pics/NeoGeo/PICT1096.jpg)
I have quite a few more, these are all old pics.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/Game Pics/HI3F0040.jpg)
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The major reason i am anti-AES is the boots.
I am not totally opposed to paying a high price for an AES game, but I am 90% that all of the high priced games out there now are fake. That is the one reason I refuse to pick up Sengoku 3 to complete my beat-em-up collection, I fear being swindled.
SuperD, that's very nice1
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The sad part is that for a long time Sengoku 3 was the number 1 sac cart for making boots. The Neo Store had massive lot of them, people bought them and used them to convert into other games, now legit Sengoku 2001/3 is almost impossible to get. Never selling mine, though to be honest I prefer Sengoku 2. 2001 is a very purdy game, but feels a bit too repetative imo.
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Deadite: On the plus side, if you ever need to put up a down-payment for a house, there you go.
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The major reason i am anti-AES is the boots.
I am not totally opposed to paying a high price for an AES game, but I am 90% that all of the high priced games out there now are fake. That is the one reason I refuse to pick up Sengoku 3 to complete my beat-em-up collection, I fear being swindled.
SuperD, that's very nice1
Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
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Wow, just looking at the price list of the AES games makes you wonder who on earth has thousands of $$$ to get some of these games? That's insane..
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
Damn, wish it weren't a joke.
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man, retro gaming in general is pretty much a joke these days.
i f*cking hate nerds.
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
Damn, wish it weren't a joke.
Ya really don't:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?236232-The-Final-Chapter-of-the-Fake-Aerofighters-3-I-Need-your-help-%28-NGDEV-TEAM-161-in1-ETC%29
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As stated, it's a bit too late to get into the AES game for normal people. Haven't bought a new cart in roughly 4 years or so... I love the shooties.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/HI3F0139_zpsf84ffe8b.jpg)
And the Slugs, gotta have the Slugs!
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/Game Pics/NeoGeo/PICT1096.jpg)
I have quite a few more, these are all old pics.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/SuperDeadite/Game Pics/HI3F0040.jpg)
Wow...nice collection there SuperD. How many of your Realdollz did you need to sell for it...two?...or all three?
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
Damn, wish it weren't a joke.
Tell me about it.... That's prob the ultimate gouge on eBay. The videogame X dude that has 2 metal gear bundles for sale... One for 1 million, and the complete anthology for 1.9 million. WTF!?
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
Damn, wish it weren't a joke.
Tell me about it.... That's prob the ultimate gouge on eBay. The videogame X dude that has 2 metal gear bundles for sale... One for 1 million, and the complete anthology for 1.9 million. WTF!?
He must think he has the next first apperance of superman f video games to sell the masses
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I played both of the Sonic Wings games on the Neo Geo CD. They were the epitome of average. Absolutely nothing special or noteworthy about them. Even the music sucked. The average SNES shooter is much better.
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I played both of the Sonic Wings games on the Neo Geo CD. They were the epitome of average. Absolutely nothing special or noteworthy about them. Even the music sucked. The average SNES shooter is much better.
I thought they were better than average. I really liked the first one on the SNES, though. So much action and no slowdown.
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As a neo-geo guy I want to clear a few things up from this thread.
1.) If you go MVS, try to avoid 4 and 6 slot boards. They are notorious for issues, especially the 6 slot boards.
2.) MVS is going to be all around cheaper and give you more options but requires more 'up-keep'.
3.) They make MVS to AES converters for playing MVS carts on the AES, but are fairly expensive and not compatible with some multicarts.
4.) Multislot cabs and multislot boards are NOT JAMMA, but a variation that has stereo sound. Only the single slot boards, and cabs are JAMMA. Some single slot boards however are capable of outputing stereo via a header on the board or a 2.5mm headphone jack.
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As a neo-geo guy I want to clear a few things up from this thread.
1.) If you go MVS, try to avoid 4 and 6 slot boards. They are notorious for issues, especially the 6 slot boards.
2.) MVS is going to be all around cheaper and give you more options but requires more 'up-keep'.
3.) They make MVS to AES converters for playing MVS carts on the AES, but are fairly expensive and not compatible with some multicarts.
4.) Multislot cabs and multislot boards are NOT JAMMA, but a variation that has stereo sound. Only the single slot boards, and cabs are JAMMA. Some single slot boards however are capable of outputing stereo via a header on the board or a 2.5mm headphone jack.
I guess I should one day invest in a MVS to AES converter so I can get more use out of my AES system.........and memory card
but I am such a tight wad! ........
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3.) They make MVS to AES converters for playing MVS carts on the AES, but are fairly expensive and not compatible with some multicarts.
What would you recommend as the best one? I've seen a bunch and always here a mix of things about them. The Daedalus looked good but seems expensive and apparently the guy was ripping people off from what i heard. Something weird of the sorts
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....the guy was ripping people off from what i heard. Something weird of the sorts
Isnt that to be expected when it comes to Neo Geo stuff?
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3.) They make MVS to AES converters for playing MVS carts on the AES, but are fairly expensive and not compatible with some multicarts.
What would you recommend as the best one? I've seen a bunch and always here a mix of things about them. The Daedalus looked good but seems expensive and apparently the guy was ripping people off from what i heard. Something weird of the sorts
I want to hear more.
But I dibt want to research.
Someone tell us the chesmi
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4.) Multislot cabs and multislot boards are NOT JAMMA, but a variation that has stereo sound. Only the single slot boards, and cabs are JAMMA. Some single slot boards however are capable of outputing stereo via a header on the board or a 2.5mm headphone jack.
Pretty easy to solve this by an adapter (either MVS > JAMMA, or vice versa). 6 Slots are definitely the most failure prone (2 6 slots, 2 with faults), but the 4 slots I've had have always been solid.
The best MVS converter, IMO, is the MVS Magic Key. The latest version has very good compatibility and the scaling issue has been fixed. It also has region changing and a cheat menu built-in.
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I love both versions. if you are on a budget, go for mvs. if you got the money, go for aes. I collect for aes, mvs and cd. aes is expensive but there are still good deals to be found on aes games if you are patient
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I have an AES and 22 games, it's getting stupid expensive though and I wouldn't recommend an AES these days unless you are looking to spend serious coin. $900 for a 4 slot is crazy expensive, I got mine for half that with six games. Looking into an Mvs and a multicart, cheapest way to get the full experience for the least amount of cash.
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Nah, there are no boots. Btw, I have a US Aero Fighters 3 AES I'd like to sell you. $30,000 OK?
:lol: Don't joke about things like that. Someone might think you're serious and offer you a cash deal :lol:
Damn, wish it weren't a joke.
Ya really don't:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?236232-The-Final-Chapter-of-the-Fake-Aerofighters-3-I-Need-your-help-%28-NGDEV-TEAM-161-in1-ETC%29
Q: why haven't I been here for a few days?
A: I was reading that STUPID THREAD at n-g.com forums. Fake Aerofighters 3. I read all 46 pages of that garbage. Honestly, I don't know why. I will never do that again.
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Q: why haven't I been here for a few days?
A: I was reading that STUPID THREAD at n-g.com forums. Fake Aerofighters 3. I read all 46 pages of that garbage. Honestly, I don't know why. I will never do that again.
Just wait until you find out that there are other threads connected to it. Rest easy, though, since of all the hilarious scandals to come out of N-G.com, this one takes the cake.
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Q: why haven't I been here for a few days?
A: I was reading that STUPID THREAD at n-g.com forums. Fake Aerofighters 3. I read all 46 pages of that garbage. Honestly, I don't know why. I will never do that again.
Please summarize what you read in no less than 27 pages of posts, but no more than 29 pages.
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Q: why haven't I been here for a few days?
A: I was reading that STUPID THREAD at n-g.com forums. Fake Aerofighters 3. I read all 46 pages of that garbage. Honestly, I don't know why. I will never do that again.
Just wait until you find out that there are other threads connected to it. Rest easy, though, since of all the hilarious scandals to come out of N-G.com, this one takes the cake.
Damn! Other threads...crap, I gotta read them. I was actually starting to become curious about the history of some folks involved....you could tell it was total soap opera.
Also: DID TONK EVER SURFACE? Ever?
I'm serious.
So, yeah, post some links, to anything, because clearly I'm addicted now. Ha! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Q: why haven't I been here for a few days?
A: I was reading that STUPID THREAD at n-g.com forums. Fake Aerofighters 3. I read all 46 pages of that garbage. Honestly, I don't know why. I will never do that again.
Please summarize what you read in no less than 27 pages of posts, but no more than 29 pages.
Hahahahahahahahaha! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
I can't believe how dysfunctional Internet forums are. Folks have such a desire for drama.
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Loose and dirty
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Oqb5ZvQqDa0/VAz8FyJ3-9I/AAAAAAAAEKA/r9IzBUiJ3_k/w721-h541-no/IMG_20140907_204432.jpg)
Neo collecting for the poor.
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Is that SSV Specual real or a bootleg?
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Loose and dirty
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Oqb5ZvQqDa0/VAz8FyJ3-9I/AAAAAAAAEKA/r9IzBUiJ3_k/w721-h541-no/IMG_20140907_204432.jpg)
Neo collecting for the poor.
Is that a HAL 9000 or just a garage door opener? :D
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Loose and dirty
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Oqb5ZvQqDa0/VAz8FyJ3-9I/AAAAAAAAEKA/r9IzBUiJ3_k/w721-h541-no/IMG_20140907_204432.jpg)
damn, such a shame that those labels have seen better days but a good amount of games nonetheness
ooooh nice cps2 games down there
Neo collecting for the poor.
Is that a HAL 9000 or just a garage door opener? :D
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An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350. The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now. An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.
A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.
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An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350. The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now. An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.
A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.
Some of the CMVS kits made are pretty nice to look at as well..
that Omega is one I particually like and would have gone with if I had not bought the all wood CMVS one I initaly bought that thrusted me into all that is Neo Geo......
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An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350. The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now. An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.
A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.
The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.
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An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350. The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now. An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.
A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.
The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.
With that Omega CMVS, can you still use the normal AES stick? And the NGCD pad as well? Always wondered that and never really knew, because then with the Omega, you'd just need some sort of controller if it didn't already come with it.
I have also seen some Omegas with or without the memory card capabilities. Along with rgb/s-vid mods. I've been thinking about getting an Omega CMVS, they look nice and seem to have everything i would want (as i stated though, if it had it all built in. Unibios as well? Not sure)
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An AES with a proper Converter and a multicart can be the cheapest way now, a decent used AES is around $250-$350. The converter is gona cost you but now some of them have built in BIOS now. An AES outputs RGB right out of the box so SCART to a RGB converter and your set like a turbo Vette.
A consolidated 1 Slot may be a good way to go as well, but it's so nice to have an AES with a huge Cartridge Sticking out of it, very nice system to look at.
The RGB output in AES systems is inconsistent. Even if you get one with better RGB output, it's supposed to still get better with a mod. Conveters are also all over the place and pricey. If AES systems are really that expensive now, then it would be cheaper just to buy an Omega cmvs and not deal with all the extra cables and potential issues. It looks and feels nice and won't scratch or crack so easily and looks much better without a transcoder and second power supply hanging off the back.
With that Omega CMVS, can you still use the normal AES stick? And the NGCD pad as well? Always wondered that and never really knew, because then with the Omega, you'd just need some sort of controller if it didn't already come with it.
I have also seen some Omegas with or without the memory card capabilities. Along with rgb/s-vid mods. I've been thinking about getting an Omega CMVS, they look nice and seem to have everything i would want (as i stated though, if it had it all built in. Unibios as well? Not sure)
I want to say that MOST of the CMVS conversons I have seen
mostly the Omega (which you can buy just the shel minus the NEO GEO One Slot if you preffer) and the Analouge CMVS support the AES controller, and the Neo Geo CD controller as they are the same plugs.
The Analouge CMVS does not support the memory card that the AES used (and the MVS Arcades), but you can buy one with a memory card in the system or send an older CMVS (before they made the "slim" model) to have their memeory card put in for game saves and I think Bios save states. I will need to do this one day as I bought the first run of their CMVS before the slim model or the memory card option.
I am not to too familiour with the Omega but if you go/join the Neo Geo Forums the creator/seller of the Omega has a thread and is very approchable if you have questions.
If you do deside to go the MVS route you'll enjoy it....it can be customized to suit your needs, and looks really good in any gaming room. The games are also much more affordable, and like the AES just be carefull .....do research on the game and compair the game boards to verify if it is a boot copy or a legit copy....
I have also found going MVS allows me to just keep the arcade verson and not mess with any ports of the games that honestly couldn't handle the games like an arcade could.
I did buy some of the SNK compilations for the Wii and Xbox, but that is because these (to me) are perfect arcade ports/emulations that make wantign to play a compilation of games easyer then useing my MVS at times. Although I am still missing the Wii port of the Metal Slug franchies...I need to pick that up one day, but I keep waiting to find it in the wild....might just ebay it if I can find a good bundle deal on some other Wii games I am still looking to add to my Wii Library.
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Most CMVS I've seen use Neo Geo controller ports. I have two Saturn pads that I had modified for Neo Geo that I combined the shell of skeletal pads with black/grey buttons for. My Omega has a single AV port like a modern console and has an s-video and component set of cables. So there's only ever a single cable for AV and it uses a power cord like a PC. It also has a newer revision of unibios. Even if you don't care about customizing games, unibios is a must have just for sound tests. The body feels like sturdy arcade plastic and swapping carts is no problem. I was always afraid of pushing a thumb through my AES when swapping out games.
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What would be the cheapest way to get a proper Neo Geo Setup these days? Obviously not the Neo Geo X or tehzz Romzz!!1! but a real setup? Man I wish I still had my Super Gun and single slot, that was an easy setup.
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What would be the cheapest way to get a proper Neo Geo Setup these days? Obviously not the Neo Geo X or tehzz Romzz!!1! but a real setup? Man I wish I still had my Super Gun and single slot, that was an easy setup.
Cheapest?
Steal one?
J/K
I'd say cheapest would be to get a one-slot and super gun (or make a super gun) and game on from there.
after that you could always upgrad the one-slot to an Omega.
Most expensive as far as CMVS goes would be Analouge. Great quality, and I love it but a bit pricy....it was one of the few times I ever went with the more high dollar set up.
then of course the MOST expensive and less likely for most of use now a days would be AES. Which is why my AES just sort of sits there as a unique item that gets almost no use or love.....sigh...tear tear..cry cry..hush hush eye to eye....
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I sold my AES for that very reason.... Most of the games I wanted to play I had on MVS or CD already so the poor AES just sat there unused... Had to let it go :(
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I sold my AES for that very reason.... Most of the games I wanted to play I had on MVS or CD already so the poor AES just sat there unused... Had to let it go :(
I am THIS close to sell mine off......as I would rather it get some use..maybe as a back up for someone with a AES collectin.
But I keep holding out thinking/hoping a Everdrive AES cart will be made......that would be SO COOL.
I would feel like Doctor Octavious from Spiderman 2 "The power of the sun in the palm of my hands!"
Honestly the ONLY Spiderman movie I liked that had Tobby in it.....
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Same with me. I kept me AES for a while after getting a CMVS, but it just wasn't worth using or dropping a bunch of cash into to get close to the performance of my first CMVS. And that's totally independant of the price/availability between the actual games.
I kept my Neo Geo CD though. It's cool having unique versions of games and worth having just for SSRPG.
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Are AES consoles and games region locked?
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NM. Looks like its region free
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NM. Looks like its region free
I believe that a regular unmodded AES system will only play one region's version, even though the full game is in the rom. So if you buy a cheap Japanese version of a game and play it on a North American system you'd wind up with the censored version of the game. Kinda like early Genesis games.
Installing multibios will let you customize the game however you like though.
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Well looking at getting a system, and about all on eBay are Japanese. I read on a neo geo Faq that they are region Free. Any aes cart will play on any aes. What about MVS to aes? That needs a converter right?
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Well looking at getting a system, and about all on eBay are Japanese. I read on a neo geo Faq that they are region Free. Any aes cart will play on any aes. What about MVS to aes? That needs a converter right?
Yes they need a converter
And double yes on the region locking early posted
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Well looking at getting a system, and about all on eBay are Japanese. I read on a neo geo Faq that they are region Free. Any aes cart will play on any aes. What about MVS to aes? That needs a converter right?
Yes they need a converter
And double yes on the region locking early posted
OK so Aes JP cant play on AES US?
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Your all wrong, AES will play any cart JP or US. I own both a JP and a US system, Yes both roms are on the cart and the language it plays in is determined by the system (IE. US system English text) the only thing you need a converter for is to play MVS on an AES.
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As said above, AES and MVS are completely region free, they will default to the language of the BIOS (so if you buy a JP machine and buy a US cart, the game will still be in Japanese). With the MVS converter the same principle applies.
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Your all wrong, AES will play any cart JP or US. I own both a JP and a US system, Yes both roms are on the cart and the language it plays in is determined by the system (IE. US system English text)...
Isn't that exactly what Black Tiger stated?
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How is this so hard to understand?
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Because long sentences and paragraphs confuse certain people. :-P
Short: "No region lockout; language is a hardware setting."
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Does the UniBios allow the AES to play MVS carts?
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Does the UniBios allow the AES to play MVS carts?
I thinkbthat is covered by the coverter.
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Does the UniBios allow the AES to play MVS carts?
I thinkbthat is covered by the coverter.
Yeah I know the converter allows that on any AES, but on the modded AES units with the unibios it wasn't clear to me. The descriptions of the units say you can switch them from home to arcade mode. That's why I'm asking. I thought maybe arcade mode allowed MVS.
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The games on AES or Mvs carts are identical save for the pinout. So placing an Mvs game via converter in a USA AES will simply get AES USA settings. The bios settings allows you to choose Arcade or US/Japanese settings. Some of my games have Spanish or even Portuguese settings as well. The point is that all games, AES or MVS, have all the bios information within the games. The bios simply chooses what to show. This determines blood, bounce, nudity, language, and region. For example a copy of SSII On a USA AES will be in English, green blood, and no fatalities. When you beat someone they just put a kneel down and give up. Put that same cart in a Japanese system, you get blood, bounce, fatalities, and all in Japanese. Get it?
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Got it. Thanks for breaking it down. I'm a complete noob to the neo, so I can learn a lot from you guys.
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Well I took the plunge. I bought an Omega MVS system with the 161 multicart and a copy of Nam 1975.
Walking Is a lot easier now since my wallet is soooo much lighter. Lol
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Hah NAM1975 is one of the few games that cheaper on AES than MVS.
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Yeah same with Magician Lord. There's not many copy's of that floating around for MVS
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I could be wrong but arent many early neo geo titles like ninja combat, riding hero, sengoku cheaper on aes as well than mvs?
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I could be wrong but arent many early neo geo titles like ninja combat, riding hero, sengoku cheaper on aes as well than mvs?
From what I've seen Ninja Combat is fairly cheap.
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Sengoku is cheap as well. I think Magician Lord is the exception rather than the rule. The price went mad a few years ago and has stuck that way. I saw people paying £80 for an MVS cart, at the same time the AES cart (boxed, complete, no cracks on the plastic) was going for £35-£40.
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Sengoku is cheap as well. I think Magician Lord is the exception rather than the rule. The price went mad a few years ago and has stuck that way. I saw people paying £80 for an MVS cart, at the same time the AES cart (boxed, complete, no cracks on the plastic) was going for £35-£40.
true, so im guessing magician lord and nam 1975 mvs are more pricy than aes? some other titles that I think may be more expensive and maybe harder to find on mvs than aes are games like world heroes perfect, sengoku 2 and voltage fighter?
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Sengoku 2 is hard to find. Voltage Fighter is uncommon, same as World Heroes Perfect but nowhere near the level of Sengoku 2. Nam-1975 I've found to be pretty cheap on MVS (around £30).
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Sengoku 2 is hard to find. Voltage Fighter is uncommon, same as World Heroes Perfect but nowhere near the level of Sengoku 2. Nam-1975 I've found to be pretty cheap on MVS (around £30).
tell me about it, I've never see sengoku 2 for mvs anywhere. im hoping to find the aes version for a good price eventually but the cd version will definitely do for now
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So my Omega and A few games finally arrived, and I've really been having a blast with it. Couple of questions to anyone who may have one.
1. How do you add credits to the game? Seems like they all start with 4, but I don't know how to add more.
2. There's a few issues with the 161 cart. Once in a game I can't get it to return to the game select screen. Instructions say to hold player 1 start for 5 secs but it doesn't work. Also some of the latter metalslug games, once the stage 1 starts none of the buttons work.
Any ideas? Is it because in using unibios 3.2? The multicart says its compatible withe the OEM bios.
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sucks to hear man. do you have your system bios on arcade or aes mode? make sure its on arcade amd press select to add more credits
wish I could help with answering your other questions.
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sucks to hear man. do you have your system bios on arcade or aes mode? make sure its on arcade amd press select to add more credits
wish I could help with answering your other questions.
The bios says console at startup. I assume that's AES. His do you change the setting? This thing came with no instructions lol
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OK well figured out the bios. I set it to arcade which fixed the problems with the games. Still can't figure out how to get the 161 cart to reset though. Oh well
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sucks to hear man. do you have your system bios on arcade or aes mode? make sure its on arcade amd press select to add more credits
wish I could help with answering your other questions.
The bios says console at startup. I assume that's AES. His do you change the setting? This thing came with no instructions lol
yep, its in aes mode. when you first turn the system, when the neo geo bios screen pops up, press a, b, c and start at the same time which will take you to the main bios menu, the first option will be change region set up, from there it will as you to select region. you can press a for japan b for u.s. or c for euro
Then it'll ask you to choose system mode, you can press a for arcade or b for aes. make sure to press a for arcade for the unlimited credits
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OK well figured out the bios. I set it to arcade which fixed the problems with the games. Still can't figure out how to get the 161 cart to reset though. Oh well
sorry, didn't see this but I heard some 161 in 1 carts had some issues with resetting? but not sure if its true
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All multi-carts have issues. They're still worth buying to sample games though.
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very true black tiger and also is a perfect game if you have a 1 slot neo cab or if you just dont have space for the mvs carts
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I'm thinking about getting a consolized MVS as that seems to be the cheapest way to go other than emulation, compilation, etc but at least then I can enjoy some of these games as they were intended. Still a expensive proposition though.
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I'm thinking about getting a consolized MVS as that seems to be the cheapest way to go other than emulation, compilation, etc but at least then I can enjoy some of these games as they were intended. Still a expensive proposition though.
Initually it is, but over all the saving for the games themselves outweighs the inital cost of the CMVS.
also it's crazy fun....
the games that is..
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I'm thinking about getting a consolized MVS as that seems to be the cheapest way to go other than emulation, compilation, etc but at least then I can enjoy some of these games as they were intended. Still a expensive proposition though.
Initually it is, but over all the saving for the games themselves outweighs the inital cost of the CMVS.
also it's crazy fun....
the games that is..
Agreed! I have thoroughly enjoyed mine in the short time I've had it. I am very impressed with the craftsmanship of the Omega. It looks as good as any commercially produced console.
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OK well figured out the bios. I set it to arcade which fixed the problems with the games. Still can't figure out how to get the 161 cart to reset though. Oh well
Send Quan a message about the multicart issue. I'm assuming your Omega is the model w/ the built-in memory unit, as this is a known issue with that model variant. He might have a fix for it by now, so checking with him will be your best bet.
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Curious, what games were on the AES that weren't on the MVS and vice versa?
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Curious, what games were on the AES that weren't on the MVS and vice versa?
I want to say that some of the MVS (arcade) games where not ported to the AES.
The AES or Neo Geo CD never got any ports that weren't a MVS originally.
Which is why I feel both the AES and Neo Geo CD hold little value due to the high cost for them. Going MVS is best both in the pocket book and you can get a compelte Neo Geo Library.
Now I could be wrong on that whole AES never getting any games that were not MVS originally but I certianly never heard of a game being created just for those system, or being ported for them that were not MVS originally.
Which is why I like to call the AES a arcade in a box....... :wink:
Edit and already I am corrected that the neo geo cd did have exclusoves not originally a mvs game. Sweet!
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Curious, what games were on the AES that weren't on the MVS and vice versa?
AES has zero exclusives. MVS has pretty much everything except Samurai Spirits RPG and a few other CD exclusives, but I believe that the other exclusives were made for MVS and just held back to make the Neo Geo CD more attractive. Some (all?) of those other exclusives have been converted by fans to MVS.
There are lists out there that break everything down in easy to read charts, but I can't find any at the moment.
MVS has the most games.
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The CD Exclusive -> MVS fan ports often don't have music though, as the CD games only have redbook CD music.
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mvs is the best!
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Here's a question for you guys. My omega keeps defaulting the region to Europe after a hard restart. I turn it on and its Europe, I change it to USA, and it says it is saved. It will remain as USA, even after soft reboot, until it is powered off again.
Any ideas?
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
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Curious, what games were on the AES that weren't on the MVS and vice versa?
One of the MVS exclusives I really like is Super Dodge Ball, it's an excellent game.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np7-xrlYhLg
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Here's a question for you guys. My omega keeps defaulting the region to Europe after a hard restart. I turn it on and its Europe, I change it to USA, and it says it is saved. It will remain as USA, even after soft reboot, until it is powered off again.
Any ideas?
Bump
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I got my answers from digging a little on Neo Geo.com. The 161 cart reset does not function when a memory card is in use. You can disable the memory card on the Omega, but it requires opening it up and messing with jumpers and what not.
The region issue could be the memory card as well, it was recommended that you try reformatting it, or it could be the battery.
Since this is a heavily modified CMVS, I hope to hell the battery was replaced during the build. I'm going to try reformatting; if that doesn't work, I'm going to leave the console on for several hours to ensure the battery is charged. If that doesn't work, I guess I'll pop it open to see how the battery looks.
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
None...well Emulation which is free .....
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I use a Neo Geo 2 slot MVS with one of those Vogatek superguns and a cheap ATX power supply. Works great!
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I use a Neo Geo 2 slot MVS with one of those Vogatek superguns and a cheap ATX power supply. Works great!
Ohh got lots of atx power supplies. :) Which Vogatek did you get?
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I think its the mk5? Just does composite + svideo and has ports for neo geo sticks.
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
There are reputable modders who do it cheaper. The Omega isn't a bad choice though, it's not quite as insanely overpriced like the Analogue CMVS.
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
There are reputable modders who do it cheaper. The Omega isn't a bad choice though, it's not quite as insanely overpriced like the Analogue CMVS.
The Analouge CMVS is pricey. But man I love it.
Need to pick up some neo geo cd controllers some day.
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I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
There are reputable modders who do it cheaper. The Omega isn't a bad choice though, it's not quite as insanely overpriced like the Analogue CMVS.
If you want something that is well constructed, and actually looks like a console, the Omega is the best priced unit I found.
I assume what ever saves the data is dead. Most likely a battery. Since you are calling it an ''Omega'' I'm guessing this is one of those insanely overpriced massproduced CMVS units. You should ask the guy that made it.
What are the other cheaper alternatives besides a super gun?
There are reputable modders who do it cheaper. The Omega isn't a bad choice though, it's not quite as insanely overpriced like the Analogue CMVS.
If you want something that is well constructed, and actually looks like a console, the Omega is the best priced unit I found.
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Another crapatalk glitch
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anyone who supports Analogue CMVS is supporting ebola and terrorism. Don't buy into the hype.
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anyone who supports Analogue CMVS is supporting ebola and terrorism. Don't buy into the hype.
Ebola and terrorism?
I LOVE THOSE THINGS!
see now I need to go and pre-order that all metal NES clone system ....
No riped off code and emulators on that thing!
just riped off PPUs and guts from Famicoms .........
Keeping my foot prints green on this planet!
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anyone who supports Analogue CMVS is supporting ebola and terrorism. Don't buy into the hype.
I just think its hilarious that they make a freaking walnut case for the thing! I only trust my console to Old English furniture polish lol
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anyone who supports Analogue CMVS is supporting ebola and terrorism. Don't buy into the hype.
I just think its hilarious that they make a freaking walnut case for the thing! I only trust my console to Old English furniture polish lol
Clearly you have yet to experience splinters while gaming.
It's a real treat.........
Wax on. Wax off.....oh yeah that's the stuff
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anyone who supports Analogue CMVS is supporting ebola and terrorism. Don't buy into the hype.
I just think its hilarious that they make a freaking walnut case for the thing! I only trust my console to Old English furniture polish lol
Clearly you have yet to experience splinters while gaming.
It's a real treat.........
Wax on. Wax off.....oh yeah that's the stuff
Um, thats very odd. I'm hoping I can get a consolized MVS for a good deal at the Portland Retro Gaming Convention this year..
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The Analogue CMVS is pretty underpriced. So is the Omega to a lesser extent.
Some people don't understand the concept and ignore all the conveniences and premium features and somehow equate them to a pcb hooked to a pcb with a huge atx power supply and a transcoder with with a power supply and random cables making a combined mess that can be cobbled together for potentially fewer dollars plus more time than the difference in price equals if you divide it by what you'd get paid by the hour for this type of work.
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs2.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs4.gif)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs1.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs4.gif)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs3.jpg)
And that's a much more flattering photo of an MVS supergun setup than I could have picked.
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/xcmvs6.jpg)
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The problem with a CMVS, is that if you are willing to pay a good chunk of cash, you are far better off buying a nice fully featured supergun, as then you can play other arcade boards. A dedicated CMVS only plays MVS. If you have tons of cash to blow go for it, but I feel your typical budget-minded MVS owner can do better.
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The problem with a CMVS, is that if you are willing to pay a good chunk of cash, you are far better off buying a nice fully featured supergun, as then you can play other arcade boards. A dedicated CMVS only plays MVS. If you have tons of cash to blow go for it, but I feel your typical budget-minded MVS owner can do better.
When I bought my CMVS (MV1B) I was pretty ignorant about superguns and the options available. I don't regret it (and now have a gun) but I should have done more research.
I was just considering the price difference of MVS carts versus home carts. I did save more than enough to cover it's cost.
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Its a good chunk of cash regardless what route you go. I figure I need at least $1,000 to start off.
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Its a good chunk of cash regardless what route you go. I figure I need at least $1,000 to start off.
That is a good estimate .......
Mind you with that amount you can get a CMVS, controller, and maybe 10 good games. Alot of the MVS games can be had for 20-30 dollars ...
Hell I just bought Metal Slug 4 (compelte kit) off ebay for $45. Guy had a huge stock of them and still has a few. Of course I'll need to crack open that case and verify the chip set is not a bootleg. If it is I'll demand my money back.......
If it is a legit copy then I'll just be missing Metal Slug 1 & 5 ......
as for complete kit games this will be my 3rd or 4th ...........I sometimes get tempted to go for only complete kit games but don't feel like dishing out the usual $120-$200 per game.........but man that would look sexy on a shelf....all my MVS games as full kits......although maybe a little bland...
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Its a good chunk of cash regardless what route you go. I figure I need at least $1,000 to start off.
That is a good estimate .......
Mind you with that amount you can get a CMVS, controller, and maybe 10 good games. Alot of the MVS games can be had for 20-30 dollars ...
Hell I just bought Metal Slug 4 (compelte kit) off ebay for $45. Guy had a huge stock of them and still has a few. Of course I'll need to crack open that case and verify the chip set is not a bootleg. If it is I'll demand my money back.......
If it is a legit copy then I'll just be missing Metal Slug 1 & 5 ......
as for complete kit games this will be my 3rd or 4th ...........I sometimes get tempted to go for only complete kit games but don't feel like dishing out the usual $120-$200 per game.........but man that would look sexy on a shelf....all my MVS games as full kits......although maybe a little bland...
I saw that listing for metal slug too. My wife has clamped the purse strings since Christmas is coming though :(
.... As for MVS kits being sexy on a shelf... :o ??? I find cardboard boxes rather boring.
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kits are useless unless you have a cab
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kits are useless unless you have a cab
I am lucky enough to say that I have one of those to....
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Its a good chunk of cash regardless what route you go. I figure I need at least $1,000 to start off.
That is a good estimate .......
Mind you with that amount you can get a CMVS, controller, and maybe 10 good games. Alot of the MVS games can be had for 20-30 dollars ...
Hell I just bought Metal Slug 4 (compelte kit) off ebay for $45. Guy had a huge stock of them and still has a few. Of course I'll need to crack open that case and verify the chip set is not a bootleg. If it is I'll demand my money back.......
If it is a legit copy then I'll just be missing Metal Slug 1 & 5 ......
as for complete kit games this will be my 3rd or 4th ...........I sometimes get tempted to go for only complete kit games but don't feel like dishing out the usual $120-$200 per game.........but man that would look sexy on a shelf....all my MVS games as full kits......although maybe a little bland...
I saw that listing for metal slug too. My wife has clamped the purse strings since Christmas is coming though :(
.... As for MVS kits being sexy on a shelf... :o ??? I find cardboard boxes rather boring.
(http://www.jamma-nation-x.com/jammax/images/grizz/labels/p-files/grizz-label-p1.jpg)
Spice them up with some of this and some side sticky art and it could look less boring.
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Or go the Neo Mini Box route (personal fav)...it saves on space, and looks very uniform on the shelf versus a shock box...
I just have yet to get these.....some for my MVS and PMG
oh yeah
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2rz4b2g.jpg)
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(http://www.unstupid.com/myimages/update5.jpg)
Whoes ever father this was he is a boss...
makes me want to have one made for when my own child is older....and defently not still in his/her mother's whomb......
Might have to attempt to contact the guy on the thread who made this .........as all I would need is the cab (in parts) and can slap it together and get it looking good....
It's alwasy the cab that is the hardest part for me..........granted I guess I could just go to a carpenter with the blue prints (which are easy to find) and have a cab made locally....
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At some point someone talked about sorting through hacked and original games on multi-carts. I made my own cover and reversible game list for the multi-cart I have.
I figured out which games are hacks, which are original and made alphabetical and genre lists with the menu number beside each game. For the genre categories, the original titles are listed first, then the hacked ones. I printed out each list guide and laminated it. It fits in the manual space inside the shock box.
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/m1081.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/m1082.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/m1083.jpg)
Close-ups of the guide:
http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/m1084.jpg
http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/m1085.jpg
It was a lot of work, but so is trying to navigate the random list of roms on the cart without a guide. Now it's incredibly easy to find or figure out what I want to play off the cart.
As you can see on the back of the box, there's still 65 unaltered games, which is a hell of a lot.
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Curious, are the AES consoles region free?
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yes but get a Unibios you wont regret it
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Curious, are the AES consoles region free?
This was answered in detail earlier, but basically a game will run, but you are stuck with a particular version (potentially censored).
Unibios is a must for game players.
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Neo Geo was bigger badder better! And more censored. Because the people who would buy something like a Neo Geo needed games to be censored. Maybe Neo Geo was just for big babies? I think maybe so.
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Maybe Neo Geo was just for big babies? I think maybe so.
You might be onto something..... that would explain why fun is a strong word.
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Back in '92 or '93 when I got my AES (yes, as a kid...it was amazing, though!) I quickly had a console mod done as soon as I heard about the censorship in upcoming games ("Samurai Shodown" and "The King of Fighters '94"). I had a US system and read in magazines about the white blood and the.....alteration to Mai Shiranui, and something had to be done.
So I sent the system to a store that seemingly installed an additional BIOS. From that point on I could flick a little metal switch on the back of the console to choose between USA or JPN....very handy to this day and the reason why I have no UniBIOS.
Just wanted to mention that there are other ways to circumvent censorship. :)
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Back in '92 or '93 when I got my AES (yes, as a kid...it was amazing, though!) I quickly had a console mod done as soon as I heard about the censorship in upcoming games ("Samurai Shodown" and "The King of Fighters '94"). I had a US system and read in magazines about the white blood and the.....alteration to Mai Shiranui, and something had to be done.
So I sent the system to a store that seemingly installed an additional BIOS. From that point on I could flick a little metal switch on the back of the console to choose between USA or JPN....very handy to this day and the reason why I have no UniBIOS.
Just wanted to mention that there are other ways to circumvent censorship. :)
You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
Or you just had really rich parents. :)
Game systems and games were much more expensive back then.
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Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
I wish my parents were like that.
Mine were of the "you can only have 1 system at a time" persuasion.
Every time I wanted to upgrade to a new system, I had to sell my existing console + games. Not easy back in those days considering the used game market was kind of limited to mainly a few small mail order outfits like BRE games and Funcoland.
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shit, I would have loved growing up with the neo but the prices were crazy. I didnt even know about the existence of the neo geo aes until like 7 years ago and when I found out kof 94 was avaliable for the system (one of the first arcade games ive ever played and loved) I had to get it and was able to buy one in 2009. 5 years later and im still loving it!
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
Or you just had really rich parents. :)
Game systems and games were much more expensive back then.
I owned a Neo Geo AES back when it was released (in the UK). I was around 14 years old, I didn't have rich parents we were actually quite poor, but I was completely obsessed with video games so I worked all I could at weekends and after school to fund my hobby.
Back then I didn't know of anyone else in my area or school that had a Neo Geo so I had to travel and meet up with other hardcore gamers and I would trade AES games with them.
For the first few years I think I only had around 3-5 AES games at a time but I would always trade them for new ones so I got to play most of the AES library of games.
Some of my favourites aren't the commonly popular titles, I just have fond memories of playing them when they were released.
Here's a few:
Super Baseball 2020
Alpha Mission 2/ASO II - loved this shooter, surprised it never gets talked about.
Fatal Fury - amazing graphics at the time
Fatal Fury 2
Last Resort - one of my favourite games of all time.
Magician Lord
Ninja Commando
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
Or you just had really rich parents. :)
Game systems and games were much more expensive back then.
I owned a Neo Geo AES back when it was released (in the UK). I was around 14 years old, I didn't have rich parents we were actually quite poor, but I was completely obsessed with video games so I worked all I could at weekends and after school to fund my hobby.
Back then I didn't know of anyone else in my area or school that had a Neo Geo so I had to travel and meet up with other hardcore gamers and I would trade AES games with them.
For the first few years I think I only had around 3-5 AES games at a time but I would always trade them for new ones so I got to play most of the AES library of games.
Some of my favourites aren't the commonly popular titles, I just have fond memories of playing them when they were released.
Here's a few:
Super Baseball 2020
Alpha Mission 2/ASO II - loved this shooter, surprised it never gets talked about.
Fatal Fury - amazing graphics at the time
Fatal Fury 2
Last Resort - one of my favourite games of all time.
Magician Lord
Ninja Commando
I loved those non-fighting NEO games, too. I was never infatuated with the fighting genre, so I would always play the games that had no crowd around them.
8Man, Nam '75, and Magician Lord got a lot of love.
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
Or you just had really rich parents. :)
Game systems and games were much more expensive back then.
I owned a Neo Geo AES back when it was released (in the UK). I was around 14 years old, I didn't have rich parents we were actually quite poor, but I was completely obsessed with video games so I worked all I could at weekends and after school to fund my hobby.
Back then I didn't know of anyone else in my area or school that had a Neo Geo so I had to travel and meet up with other hardcore gamers and I would trade AES games with them.
For the first few years I think I only had around 3-5 AES games at a time but I would always trade them for new ones so I got to play most of the AES library of games.
Some of my favourites aren't the commonly popular titles, I just have fond memories of playing them when they were released.
Here's a few:
Super Baseball 2020
Alpha Mission 2/ASO II - loved this shooter, surprised it never gets talked about.
Fatal Fury - amazing graphics at the time
Fatal Fury 2
Last Resort - one of my favourite games of all time.
Magician Lord
Ninja Commando
I may sound a little bit off, but I love Fatal Fury's 1 music the best out of the series. :)
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You sir were a cool kid, having a Neo in the day is a helluva accomplishment.
Well, it's not like I delivered tons of newspapers to finally buy a Neo after months of hard work, or anything like that. My parents were just kind of "pro videogames" so I had pretty much every system, even exotic ones like 3DO or PC Engine/ Turbo Duo which had to be imported. They didn't play themselves but appreciated my fondness for that stuff.
So in the end I was just lucky, I guess. :)
Or you just had really rich parents. :)
Game systems and games were much more expensive back then.
I owned a Neo Geo AES back when it was released (in the UK). I was around 14 years old, I didn't have rich parents we were actually quite poor, but I was completely obsessed with video games so I worked all I could at weekends and after school to fund my hobby.
Back then I didn't know of anyone else in my area or school that had a Neo Geo so I had to travel and meet up with other hardcore gamers and I would trade AES games with them.
For the first few years I think I only had around 3-5 AES games at a time but I would always trade them for new ones so I got to play most of the AES library of games.
Some of my favourites aren't the commonly popular titles, I just have fond memories of playing them when they were released.
Here's a few:
Super Baseball 2020
Alpha Mission 2/ASO II - loved this shooter, surprised it never gets talked about.
Fatal Fury - amazing graphics at the time
Fatal Fury 2
Last Resort - one of my favourite games of all time.
Magician Lord
Ninja Commando
I may sound a little bit off, but I love Fatal Fury's 1 music the best out of the series. :)
I am quite Partial to MOTW's music but 1's is classic for sure.
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We had Fatal Fury 1 on the MVS 2-slot at my neighborhood pool growing up. Game holds a special place deep in my psyche even though I know it's a flawed game. The audio was so impressive when it came out.