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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: schweaty on November 16, 2014, 06:35:21 AM

Title: HD Retrovision
Post by: schweaty on November 16, 2014, 06:35:21 AM
i did a search and didnt see this, so i thought I would throw this out there for everyone.  basically, from what i can tell, its a component cable for the snes and genesis with the sig amp built into the cable.  so you just plug it into your console and go.  no installation necessary.  for the genesis they actual have a different cable for each model.  its in kickstarter, but the funding goal is met.  it actually looks really affordable at only $35.  more info here:

http://www.hdretrovision.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnz-BD1tRO7burpaKInFjFw

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hdretrovision/sega-genesis-and-super-nintendo-component-cables

what do you think?
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: HailingTheThings on November 16, 2014, 10:09:43 AM
I'm more interested in their Dreamcast component cable.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: roflmao on November 16, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
I wonder if the SNES component cable would work with the Gamecube. I'd love it if an affordable alternative was made for the GC.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: HailingTheThings on November 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
I wonder if the SNES component cable would work with the Gamecube. I'd love it if an affordable alternative was made for the GC.

The NA GC systems that are compatible with component video have an extra jack next to the standard composite/s-video one and require a special and expensive 1st party only cable. Maybe someday someone will make reproductions of this if they haven't already.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: xelement5x on November 17, 2014, 02:42:09 AM
I wonder if the SNES component cable would work with the Gamecube. I'd love it if an affordable alternative was made for the GC.

The NA GC systems that are compatible with component video have an extra jack next to the standard composite/s-video one and require a special and expensive 1st party only cable. Maybe someday someone will make reproductions of this if they haven't already.

There's actually a guy on (system11 I think) that reverse engineered the whole thing and has put the info out there, he has no desire to make the cables though.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: HailingTheThings on November 17, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
I wonder if the SNES component cable would work with the Gamecube. I'd love it if an affordable alternative was made for the GC.

The NA GC systems that are compatible with component video have an extra jack next to the standard composite/s-video one and require a special and expensive 1st party only cable. Maybe someday someone will make reproductions of this if they haven't already.

There's actually a guy on (system11 I think) that reverse engineered the whole thing and has put the info out there, he has no desire to make the cables though.

That's awesome, I guess now its time to play the waiting game.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: glazball on November 17, 2014, 03:33:12 PM
I read their FAQ and the SNES cable does not work for Gamecube, though they are hoping to one day make a component GC cable based on the official cable.  As for the SNES and Gen cables themselves, they only output 240p for 240p signals which a lot of tv's have trouble with.  Though not an ideal solution,  I think it's a neat project and a good, cheaper solution for better PQ for those who just play SNES or Gen.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 17, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
The SNES component cable will NOT work with the N64 (unless modded) or Gamecube (not sure if such a mod can be done) because the RGB lines don't run to the AV jack. But even if it DID work with the Gamecube, it wouldn't be the same as the real Gamecube component cables. It wouldn't be able to provide progressive scan in 480p-enabled games. The Gamecube component video cables have a DA chip inside of them to convert the digital video signal to component analog. Why they didn't also include a DA chip to handle the digital audio that's delivered to that jack in beyond me. Having to have both cables hooked up at once is dumb. I am amazed that nobody has been able to decipher the Gamecube's digital video scheme.
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: xelement5x on November 18, 2014, 06:17:08 AM
The SNES component cable will NOT work with the N64 (unless modded) or Gamecube (not sure if such a mod can be done) because the RGB lines don't run to the AV jack. But even if it DID work with the Gamecube, it wouldn't be the same as the real Gamecube component cables. It wouldn't be able to provide progressive scan in 480p-enabled games. The Gamecube component video cables have a DA chip inside of them to convert the digital video signal to component analog. Why they didn't also include a DA chip to handle the digital audio that's delivered to that jack in beyond me. Having to have both cables hooked up at once is dumb. I am amazed that nobody has been able to decipher the Gamecube's digital video scheme.


It has been reverse engineered, that's what I was talking about above.

I dug up the link for those interested:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51450

I doubt it will be cheap to build, but definitely cheaper than the official cables are now. 
Title: Re: HD Retrovision
Post by: esadajr on November 19, 2014, 01:13:21 AM
back in the day I only had composite (s-video best case) and that's what I'll die with.