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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Title: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Hey all,
was wondering if anyone had any info on or even seen a duo like this before? The manufacture date is 93 was this glossy look vs the matte look a last ditch effort?
Anyhow thought it might be fun to share. No its not for sale, it is my first ever and I will be holding on to this ome :-)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on November 21, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
Can you take more photos of it ? And does it look professional to you, you sure it wasn't a modder spraying clear gloss paint all over it ?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:21:23 PM
I have a few more, it looks way too nice to have been sprayed.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on November 21, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
I dunno, it looks ugly to me anyway from your photos so far. ;)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
Different view? What are ya callin bullshit on Nully :-) you hiding the cockmeat sandwich in your back pocket again?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: jtucci31 on November 21, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
Pretty sure you aren't supposed to clean your console with dish soap. Or even if you do, you should at least dry the thing. Or is this just very tight saran wrap? :-k
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
Here is an in the cd door, if you notice even the lower inside is glossy and no runny spots at all, I think it wou.d be pretty tough and time comsumimg to fake a job like that.
I dont know much about it as I have never seen one thats why I asked here, I figured someone might know more than I do (squat at this point)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on November 21, 2014, 03:33:23 PM
A shot in daylight would help, dunno how good your camera is though. The latest photo does look a bit better I'll say.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 21, 2014, 03:35:01 PM
I have an awesome cam. i have to shrink them to post them. any suggestion to show the large ones on here.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on November 21, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
Custom N64 Nintendo 64 matching control, blue LED on Ebay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A1HIWY-B4A#)
He does all kinds of custom paint jobs on a lot of different systems. I think he uses automotive paint and clear coats.
While cool, I don't think that is the case. I have heard of a run of duos that were glossy and very limited. I think I have one,,,can't be 100% but pretty damn sure.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: madboom0522 on November 22, 2014, 03:13:46 AM
Damn it Nully! I wanted one of those..... :mrgreen: They are the ones that sing along right?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on November 22, 2014, 03:42:35 AM
I want the purple dino duo Damn you Nully always trying to one up me.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: ClodBuster on November 22, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
That Duo looks like sanded with super fine grit, masked off any parts where paint shouldn't go, primed and then spray painted and clear coated using an airbrush.
Or it is just the greasy fingers syndrome, known from gaming combined with pizza.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: InfraMan on November 22, 2014, 05:24:53 AM
It's not exactly glossy, but I DO have this super-rare white DUO with limited edition 10-button controller.
... Unfortunately, it only plays Bloody Wolf, Red Alert, and Final Zone II. :|
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: clackattack on November 22, 2014, 08:56:58 AM
looks laquered to me... take the card cover off and hit it with a hair dryer, if it starts to get a little sticky or gooey from the heat, its definitely laquer. Never heard of a glossy-finished NEC console
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: madboom0522 on November 22, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
It would seem that if people have never heard of something then it must not exist.... so ninja tell the truth you painted and polished it...Com'on, tell us.....everyone is 8-[
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Medic_wheat on November 22, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Wax on wax off
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: madboom0522 on November 22, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
That's right Daniel son...
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: esteban on November 22, 2014, 11:24:22 AM
Dan. Yell. San.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Keith Courage on November 22, 2014, 11:33:36 AM
It looks so gross. The glossy finish makes it look like it was dipped in penetrating oil or something. Bleh.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: madboom0522 on November 22, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
Easy to clear it without leaving run spots ect. quit trying to claim a rare duo........
Agreed. It's obvious that someone here is full of shit.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 06:26:22 AM
Wow, i'm glad I came back to this thread and looked. Man, Necro you really do like to just shit in threads huh. Like I said before it was a question as to if they exist from the factory or if some did a job on it. I thought you pros here would have some info but I guess I was mislead about the pros here. Any how I could care less about what anyone thinks, I was just looking to get good info not a rash of shit. Thanks anyway :-) I don't need opinions, just the facts.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: esteban on February 09, 2015, 07:35:41 AM
Wow, i'm glad I came back to this thread and looked. Man, Necro you really do like to just shit in threads huh. Like I said before it was a question as to if they exist from the factory or if some did a job on it. I thought you pros here would have some info but I guess I was mislead about the pros here. Any how I could care less about what anyone thinks, I was just looking to get good info not a rash of shit. Thanks anyway :-) I don't need opinions, just the facts.
As I said before, no DUO has ever left a factory that glossy. Or with that finish.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 09, 2015, 07:43:21 AM
Wow, i'm glad I came back to this thread and looked. Man, Necro you really do like to just shit in threads huh.
Agreeing with Terry that your duo is obviously painted and that you're 100% wrong claiming it's a legitimate hardware revision is hardly thread crapping. Don't get mad. It's not my fault that you're consistently wrong.
Like I said before it was a question as to if they exist from the factory or if some did a job on it. I thought you pros here would have some info but I guess I was mislead about the pros here. Any how I could care less about what anyone thinks, I was just looking to get good info not a rash of shit. Thanks anyway :-) I don't need opinions, just the facts.
You have your answers, you're just mad that they don't fit your expectations. Here's what can be gleaned from this thread:
Fact 1 - That duo was painted after the fact, and it's not hard to do. Fact 2 - There was only one version of TurboDuo sold. Fact 3 - Unless you have an official press release, magazine advert, etc. that specifically mentions a glossy Duo, then your hearsay is no more valid than what everyone else here believes to be true. Fact 4 - You've decided that it's a legitimate hardware revision, and there's nothing we can say to change your mind. It's impossible for anyone to provide you with your requested "facts", because no such thing exists. What do you think, that Hudson sent out letters saying "we didn't make a glossy duo!"? Fact 5 - Either you or your supposed source is full of shit. Fact 6 - You're mad because nobody here (except madboom) laps up your bull.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: bob on February 09, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
Wow, i'm glad I came back to this thread and looked. Man, Necro you really do like to just shit in threads huh.
Agreeing with Terry that your duo is obviously painted and that you're 100% wrong claiming it's a legitimate hardware revision is hardly thread crapping. Don't get mad. It's not my fault that you're consistently wrong.
Like I said before it was a question as to if they exist from the factory or if some did a job on it. I thought you pros here would have some info but I guess I was mislead about the pros here. Any how I could care less about what anyone thinks, I was just looking to get good info not a rash of shit. Thanks anyway :-) I don't need opinions, just the facts.
You have your answers, you're just mad that they don't fit your expectations. Here's what can be gleaned from this thread:
Fact 1 - That duo was painted after the fact, and it's not hard to do. Fact 2 - There was only one version of TurboDuo sold. Fact 3 - Unless you have an official press release, magazine advert, etc. that specifically mentions a glossy Duo, then your hearsay is no more valid than what everyone else here believes to be true. Fact 4 - You've decided that it's a legitimate hardware revision, and there's nothing we can say to change your mind. It's impossible for anyone to provide you with your requested "facts", because no such thing exists. What do you think, that Hudson sent out letters saying "we didn't make a glossy duo!"? Fact 5 - Either you or your supposed source is full of shit. Fact 6 - You're mad because nobody here (except madboom) laps up your bull.
Necro your a joke man, first off there is more than one duo, you must have forgotten about R's RX etc.. , second, I never said it was legit I was looking to confirm if it was or not. Third I don't give or take any bull, fourth, I'm not mad about anything other than the fact that you sir, really are a total douche, Fifth, I could care less about yours or anyone else opinion about me or others on this forum.
If all you have to do is be on here and post all the time (half the time hidden,chickenshit) then you need to rethink your life. I could care less about who you sucked off to get to mod status and quite frankly don't give two duck turds about who you think you are or what you have to say. It's pretty clear you have no real knowledge of your own and just follow the ones that do. Do us all a favor and get yourself informed, maybe a little education?? Just please come down off your high and mightier thou ego trip because let me be the first to tell you, it's a hard fall when your knocked off it. Trust me on this, I used to be just like you, then I grew up. I don't claim to know shit about shit unless I do! and I certainly don't go pissing on other peoples cornflakes. Respect is earned, not granted and I know a lot of people on here who simply can't stand you, maybe not as a person but surely as a poster, most won't admit it due to your new found status and fear of being booted but I don't care one bit and it would only solidify it to be a fact that you are indeed a piece of work.
Have a nice day and keep on riding ;-)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 09, 2015, 08:56:41 AM
If all you have to do is be on here and post all the time (half the time hidden,chickenshit) then you need to rethink your life. I could care less about who you sucked off to get to mod status and quite frankly don't give two duck turds about who you think you are or what you have to say. It's pretty clear you have no real knowledge of your own and just follow the ones that do. Do us all a favor and get yourself informed, maybe a little education?? Just please come down off your high and mightier thou ego trip because let me be the first to tell you, it's a hard fall when your knocked off it. Trust me on this, I used to be just like you, then I grew up. I don't claim to know shit about shit unless I do! and I certainly don't go pissing on other peoples cornflakes. Respect is earned, not granted and I know a lot of people on here who simply can't stand you, maybe not as a person but surely as a poster, most won't admit it due to your new found status and fear of being booted but I don't care one bit and it would only solidify it to be a fact that you are indeed a piece of work.
Have a nice day and keep on riding ;-)
For someone that doesn't care, you sure put together a nice little rant. There's only a couple things worth responding: as a mod, I believe it's impossible for me to be 'hidden'; you seem to be mistaken about how/why I was made a mod; and I may not be the most knowledgeable person here, but at least I knew this thing wasn't a real hardware revision.
Good day, mr. crankypants.
<< added in edit >>
I was mistaken; the option for not showing your online status still exists. I went into hiding back in 2007 (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=3177.0) and never switched it back, but does it matter? I stand behind all my posts, no matter who is watching.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: toymachine78 on February 09, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
Looks like someone rubbed it down with auto headlight restorer, or Nullity got to it with his astro glide. Does it reek of man spunk and rum?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
Again I never said it was original.
Again you messed up in saying one duo.... read carefully "Fact 2 - There was only one version of TurboDuo sold." that would be wrong.
anyhow my pants are crankin and I was referring to you as "pro", I know who the pros are here, have spoken to a few of them and they are very professional. Now I can take a joke just as good as the next guy and as I said I have nothing personal with you, hell I don't know on that level to make a call on it, but as a poster and forum member you have been a f*ck tard since I came here, and myself and others would not have hung around had it not been for other cooler members who say "pay no mind to the pole smoking fashion victim". Not everyone has the same knowledge on stuff and that's the reason many are here, to learn. For instance you know how to piss people off better than anyone else here, and most time I sit back and laugh about it but when you put words in my mouth and say things I said out of context it tents to piss me off but I'm not the one to lash out and make threats (that's an extra charge or your record) but I will stand up for what I believe to be right. Most of us come here to maybe make a friend or two and have some good times, but there is always a few in the bunch that ruin it for the real people who like to be here and learn more about what they are playing and how their systems work. So rather than just jumping on people before you have the whole story take a minute to find out whats going first. As for how or why you have mod status I wouldn't give a squirt of piss to know, any ass monkey can develop a website and drop a forum in and make anyone a mod/admin, what have you, it's what you do with it that counts.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: esteban on February 09, 2015, 09:34:24 AM
Again you messed up in saying one duo.... read carefully "Fact 2 - There was only one version of TurboDuo sold." that would be wrong.
anyhow my pants are crankin and I was referring to you as "pro", I know who the pros are here, have spoken to a few of them and they are very professional. Now I can take a joke just as good as the next guy and as I said I have nothing personal with you, hell I don't know on that level to make a call on it, but as a poster and forum member you have been a f*ck tard since I came here, and myself and others would not have hung around had it not been for other cooler members who say "pay no mind to the pole smoking fashion victim". Not everyone has the same knowledge on stuff and that's the reason many are here, to learn. For instance you know how to piss people off better than anyone else here, and most time I sit back and laugh about it but when you put words in my mouth and say things I said out of context it tents to piss me off but I'm not the one to lash out and make threats (that's an extra charge or your record) but I will stand up for what I believe to be right. Most of us come here to maybe make a friend or two and have some good times, but there is always a few in the bunch that ruin it for the real people who like to be here and learn more about what they are playing and how their systems work. So rather than just jumping on people before you have the whole story take a minute to find out whats going first. As for how or why you have mod status I wouldn't give a squirt of piss to know, any ass monkey can develop a website and drop a forum in and make anyone a mod/admin, what have you, it's what you do with it that counts.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE VERSION OF THE TURBODUO. EVER. FACT.
Please understand that we do know a little bit about the TurboDuo. You know, the console released in NORTH AMERICA.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 09, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
Again you messed up in saying one duo.... read carefully "Fact 2 - There was only one version of TurboDuo sold." that would be wrong.
There is but one model of TurboDuo that I know of; there are no revisions, glossy or otherwise. Prove me wrong.
Yes, there are three PCE duos as well, but I obviously wasn't referring to duos in general. I specifically called out one particular model for a reason.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 09, 2015, 09:57:24 AM
What the hell is wrong with this website that it constantly attracts a never ending stream of these a$$holes?
FWIW, I think. A glossy Duo could look fantastic. It would have to be competently done and photographed well, neither seems to be there case here. I assume the terrible photos are made to disguise the terrible work.
My Duo R is starting to yellow, as is my Dreamcast, so sooner or later I'll be painting them. I'll let you all know how it comes out.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 09, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
A glossy Duo could look fantastic. It would have to be competently done and photographed well, neither seems to be the case here. I assume the terrible photos are made to disguise the terrible work.
:lol: :lol: - That had me chuckling for a while!
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Bernie on February 09, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
hmm.. makes me wonder if they did do a small run of these, and we just never seen em. I mean, TTi did some weird shit...
They didn't last long enough if you ask me to play around with the appearance. We got one type of TurboExpress, one TG-16, and one Turbo Duo with the rise and quick fall of TTi, no variations in boxes or appearance that I recall, etc.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: esteban on February 09, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
That a manual from the NEC CD Add-on unit I take it ? I thought the 'E' got rubbed off a bit, but it really is a 'F'.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: bob on February 09, 2015, 11:04:52 AM
what's with the "blank" power supply too? or is that just the flash drowning out the label?
(http://dotsandloops.com/games/acpow.jpg)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Sarumaru on February 09, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
Interesting. I wonder if there were any pirate Duos out there. There were some pirate PCE units in the wild.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 12:15:31 PM
The story I just heard on it comes from a pretty reputable source who told me that there was a glossy duo made for EB as a promo give away and the idea was scrapped. He happened to be in the NEC office the day they came back and was given them. He in turn gave them to some friends. As far as he knows there was 20 of them (that he got a hold of) there could be more out there. Also there was 10 more games slated to be released and never saw the light of day but there was fliers and such made up for the games. This source just happened to be a publisher who wishes me not to name him due to the child like behavior on this board and he wants no part of it. now I know the first thing out of everyone's mouth will be "oh he don't exist" or "why won't he speak up" the answer is simple she wants no part of the debate, he knows they are real and I can believe him as I have no reason not to, and yes he does know about this board and I'm sure he is a member here, but I can't blame him for not wanting to speak up. Should he want to he is more than welcome to confirm or deny what I just said.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: tggodfrey on February 09, 2015, 12:23:49 PM
Bullshit. This was cleared. Quit trying to fabricate OMG rarez.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 12:30:01 PM
Lol I couldn't make this shit up, I just wish the guy would say something to prove you ass hats wrong but you would just call him bullshit too right...of course you would. Like I said I don't need to claim rarez anything. I do know for a fact that I have more rare shit pass through my hands in the last 3 months you most of you guys have seen in a life time. Thats not the issue here, the issue was if this was a real deal unit or not and seeing that none of you know for sure 100% and neither do I, I really don't care, it works and I enjoy it so for the haters with no duo keep on searching.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: tggodfrey on February 09, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Lol I couldn't make this shit up, I do know for a fact that more dick has passed through my hands and swallowed more cock in the last 3 months you most of you guys have in a life time. Thats not the issue here........
Fixed.
Any halfway decent painter can do that.
Your making shit up....move along.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 02:02:54 PM
And my case is closed. only goes to show the maturity level of the kids here and the reason the source does not come forward, now I fully understand that tggodfrey has penis envy and is expressing his real desires through my postings.
Riders gonna ride.
even notice how arguing over the internet is like the special Olympics, no one really wins and at the end of the day your still retarded.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 09, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
No, you're still retarded. Some people do actually learn things.
Title: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 09, 2015, 02:17:20 PM
Btw, Ninja knows he's full of shit, but some other kids might actually be tempted to believe them, so I feel it is important to have one more voice here stating that he is full of shit. Some of us have DECADES into their Turbo fandom. None of us knows everything, but between all the members here you'll find the most complete Turbo lore database on Earth. Nobody here thinks there is the slightest chance that this is an official thing.
The biggest thing making it obviously fake comes from just thinking about how long the system was on the market. The Turbo Duo as a thing wasn't around very long. There were no revisions of the product that I can think of, maybe something on the PCB, but I think even that never changed. One model number the entire run. There wasn't enough time for variations, and certainly not enough money.
But even going beyond that, everyone knows that you don't add paint near a product's lifespan, you remove it! Revisions of game systems are almost always about reducing cost. Paint would increase it.
And I don't remember any EB having any demo kiosks at all back then. The stores were all super tiny, no room for anything but product.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 09, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Btw, swap out a few nouns and Ninja's case for this thing being real is essentially the same as Tonk's case for US Aero Fighters 3 (AES) being real. I got it from a guy who worked for the company, he had a bunch, he's too grown up to come forth and prove its history, etc. That turned out to be a $100,000 clusterf*ck, and that was a guy with 10x the cred you'll ever have, Ninja.
I look forward to your inevitable banning.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 02:33:37 PM
Wasn't for a demo, was a give away according to my source, and i'm not full of anything, just repeating what i am told. I have already admitted i am by far no expert but i have also been into the turbo since day one and do have some knowledge of it, and as i clearly stated before I have never seen one and if this story i was told is true and there were only 20 made chance are no one has. Just because you, me, or anyone else here has not seen something does not mean it don't exist. I'm sure I have things you never even heard of and vise versa. Some clowns feel the need to reject any possibility of something they haven't seen. Ever seen a ghost? UFO, government cover ups, no you haven't of course not, does that mean they don't happen or exist? So I will leave this alone and trust someone who worked with/along side the company over someone who just collects and played a few games over a decade. I'm 40 years old and have been into it longer than some have been alive so try another route, i'm not some punk kid with telephone tough guy syndrome. Sleep well knowing I may just very well have a rare duo or just a good paint job, in either case like I said I could not care what anyone thinks, It works, I play it, and I love it.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: tggodfrey on February 09, 2015, 02:38:55 PM
I too know someone who worked for Nec in Wooddale......he says your wrong. This was cleared by a third party after it left NEC factory. The Serial number is probably cleared under the paint or missing. If for some foggy idea it is on top the paint I have no doubt you will find spray adhesive on the label.
I have seen a UFo actually.....it sold me a cleared duo and a Rare cleared MC for 10.00.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 02:52:45 PM
Serial is there, no sign of glue, would I have to lift the serial label off to see the glue? I mean spray glue seems to be pretty messy no?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: tggodfrey on February 09, 2015, 02:54:20 PM
not messy at all. But you can tell spray glue from self adhesive backed labels.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
Well how??? this would end the debate totally.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SephirothTNH on February 09, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
The story I just heard on it comes from a pretty reputable source who told me that there was a glossy duo made for EB as a promo give away and the idea was scrapped. He happened to be in the NEC office the day they came back and was given them. He in turn gave them to some friends. As far as he knows there was 20 of them (that he got a hold of) there could be more out there. Also there was 10 more games slated to be released and never saw the light of day but there was fliers and such made up for the games. This source just happened to be a publisher who wishes me not to name him due to the child like behavior on this board and he wants no part of it. now I know the first thing out of everyone's mouth will be "oh he don't exist" or "why won't he speak up" the answer is simple she wants no part of the debate, he knows they are real and I can believe him as I have no reason not to, and yes he does know about this board and I'm sure he is a member here, but I can't blame him for not wanting to speak up. Should he want to he is more than welcome to confirm or deny what I just said.
Wow the Bull Shit smell was stinking it up from a couple of threads over. I don't know if this thing is real or not but a story like that is meaningless without corroboration. Even if true it would have been better to keep it to yourself until the person in question was ready to come forward.
Do you really expect adults to take you seriously when you use little one liners like that, and complain that everyone has penis envy. I really hope you're posting from a cell phone or English isn't your primary language. I'm not one to critique grammar points but do you really expect other adults to take you seriously with all the spelling mistakes and the constant misuse of the contraction "don't"?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
The story I just heard on it comes from a pretty reputable source who told me that there was a glossy duo made for EB as a promo give away and the idea was scrapped. He happened to be in the NEC office the day they came back and was given them. He in turn gave them to some friends. As far as he knows there was 20 of them (that he got a hold of) there could be more out there. Also there was 10 more games slated to be released and never saw the light of day but there was fliers and such made up for the games. This source just happened to be a publisher who wishes me not to name him due to the child like behavior on this board and he wants no part of it. now I know the first thing out of everyone's mouth will be "oh he don't exist" or "why won't he speak up" the answer is simple she wants no part of the debate, he knows they are real and I can believe him as I have no reason not to, and yes he does know about this board and I'm sure he is a member here, but I can't blame him for not wanting to speak up. Should he want to he is more than welcome to confirm or deny what I just said.
Wow the Bull Shit smell was stinking it up from a couple of threads over. I don't know if this thing is real or not but a story like that is meaningless without corroboration. Even if true it would have been better to keep it to yourself until the person in question was ready to come forward.
Do you really expect adults to take you seriously when you use little one liners like that, and complain that everyone has penis envy. I really hope you're posting from a cell phone or English isn't your primary language. I'm not one to critique grammar points but do you really expect other adults to take you seriously with all the spelling mistakes and the constant misuse of the contraction "don't"?
And you are??? this not a spelling bee. go piss in your hat. hows that for a one liner.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on February 09, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
And you are??? this not a spelling bee. go piss in your hat. hows that for a one liner.
An objective third party. Nicely written though Ninja. So no then? You don't expect an adult to take you seriously?
It was nice to meet you Ninja.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Dicer on February 09, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
I'm about to drop a batch on my Duo-R after reading this mess, should I take pics?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: tggodfrey on February 09, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
Self adhesive is much thinner. Peel a label of an old case and see. Spray on is thicker. It wont end the debate at all. I am sure that label can be duplicated with enough effort; however it is a tear away label meaning it has razor blade slits in it to make it harder to remove.
Now the NEC labels may be a better indication. Those are what look like the silver backed labels that could be peeled with a razor blade. The center label would be hard because it sits in the recess. Some mitsubishi underhood labels are the same material and they can be carefully removed but if you pull them by hand they damage the finish to indicate they were removed.
The one thing that gives this away is the fact the CD tray is not clear. The factory isnt going to take time to mask off areas ect. They will take a fresh case, spray and move it down the assy line.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Bonknuts on February 09, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
(http://pcedev.net/drac-x/twilight_duo.png) That's some muthaf*cking twilight Duo bullshit...
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
Self adhesive is much thinner. Peel a label of an old case and see. Spray on is thicker. It wont end the debate at all. I am sure that label can be duplicated with enough effort; however it is a tear away label meaning it has razor blade slits in it to make it harder to remove.
Now the NEC labels may be a better indication. Those are what look like the silver backed labels that could be peeled with a razor blade. The center label would be hard because it sits in the recess. Some mitsubishi underhood labels are the same material and they can be carefully removed but if you pull them by hand they damage the finish to indicate they were removed.
The one thing that gives this away is the fact the CD tray is not clear. The factory isnt going to take time to mask off areas ect. They will take a fresh case, spray and move it down the assy line.
Would the slit be in an X fashion in the center of the label?
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: NightWolve on February 09, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
http://pcedev.net/drac-x/twilight_duo.png That's some muthaf*cking twilight Duo bullshit...
Hey, that was good photochop work. This is by far the best thread on PCEFX at present... I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing, but we must derive entertainment from where we can! ;)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 09, 2015, 03:29:07 PM
That was good work, made me lol.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Sarumaru on February 09, 2015, 04:59:34 PM
Well at least your bullshit story got a few good laughs. Good job.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: HailingTheThings on February 09, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
Is this rare? I just got it in a trade from someone who says it was a promotional Babbage's only Turbo. They seemed really reputable because when I asked if it was really real, they said "Yeap."
That's my story and I'm stickin'* to it.
*hehe
(http://i.imgur.com/3ySaqyf.jpg)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: jtucci31 on February 09, 2015, 06:21:33 PM
This thread is great. I hope it continues. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Sarumaru on February 09, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: wildfruit on February 09, 2015, 08:13:50 PM
Pff this duo just got drunk and fell into a glaze vat at Krispy Kreme. End. Fact.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 10, 2015, 02:03:18 AM
Like I keep telling you clowns, it's not my story. I am simply repeating what was told to me. You guys fully fall under mob mentality, hahaha guess this would make me much smarter than most here since you all have nothing to back your story, nor do I, but you clowns huh you clowns are really in a league all your own :-) Stupidity runs deep here because even the title of the thread suggest a question or did we loose sight of that too...let me see ...yup sure did when one fool turns the key on the band wagon every one jumps on. I was not the one who fired the first shot here unless trying to find the truth of the matter is an attack? O digging deeper and finding something that no one would believe anyhow. You may have had friends that worked there but NEC is a pretty large company and no one person other then the CEO or his guys might know whats going on in all aspects of the company. Once the flood gates open I guess ignorance flows free here. Sad sad day in the turbo collectors world. :|
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: bob on February 10, 2015, 02:38:50 AM
thank god the forum is back. even for a brief period. will go back to snooze fest soon, im sure.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: cjameslv on February 10, 2015, 02:40:18 AM
While cool, I don't think that is the case. I have heard of a run of duos that were glossy and very limited. I think I have one,,,can't be 100% but pretty damn sure.
Uh huh. And I bet you have a letter of authenticity from Hudson to back that up too I'm sure. What are you trying to be, Fudoh 2.0? No one here is falling for this shit. This was not released like that ever. You either got it gloss coated, or waxed the plastic with car wax, which I have done to Sega Genesis systems for the same effect.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Bonknuts on February 10, 2015, 03:04:52 AM
Like I keep telling you clowns, it's not my story. I am simply repeating what was told to me. You guys fully fall under mob mentality, hahaha guess this would make me much smarter than most here since you all have nothing to back your story, nor do I, but you clowns huh you clowns are really in a league all your own :-) Stupidity runs deep here because even the title of the thread suggest a question or did we loose sight of that too...let me see ...yup sure did when one fool turns the key on the band wagon every one jumps on. I was not the one who fired the first shot here unless trying to find the truth of the matter is an attack? O digging deeper and finding something that no one would believe anyhow. You may have had friends that worked there but NEC is a pretty large company and no one person other then the CEO or his guys might know whats going on in all aspects of the company. Once the flood gates open I guess ignorance flows free here. Sad sad day in the turbo collectors world. :|
You want a serious answer? Ok.
1) People try to pass off fakes and unique rare items ALL the time; it's not exclusive to retro gaming. 2) There is a LOT of collective knowledge here at PCFX, and so if something isn't a known fact or even known rumor - then that's pretty rare. Not that it can't happen, but it is rare. 3) So you have two things working against you: you have no credibility to this claim of yours, nor have you taken an objective and highly detailed review of your Duo 'special case'. You seem to be content with simply looking at it. 4) You come back with an attempt to add credibility by paraphrasing an anonymous employee who refuses to come forward. How can you not see that has the complete opposite effect of credibility? Not only that, but the coincidence of you just happening to find this employee after you were challenged on the credibility of some rumor that no one heard of. That's pretty suspect right there. 5) The retro gaming community has many examples of people simply trying to trick the general retro gaming public - for amusement.
So there you go. Assuming you're innocent in all of this, then you're ignorant of why people would be skeptical. But it doesn't feel like that at all. You presented a fact disguised as question, and then proceeded to defended it, even coming back with a highly questionable source, who can't be confirmed, to qualify some rumor no one has heard before and your claim. And you wonder why the forum has reacted the way it has? And you even shift the blame to a forum mob mentality. Anyone with reasonable intelligence would understand this, regardless of what side you fall on (being the burden of proof, or being the audience to be persuaded).
I'm sorry, but the burden of proof is on you. Until then, this wreaks of a scam or joke. And with that, we take it as an insult that you think we're stupid enough to believe what you've presented. Thanks for that.. :roll:
Not only have you failed to persuade the forum members, but the result is now your own general credibility has taken a hit. Congratulations. :clap:
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on February 10, 2015, 03:11:58 AM
Oh yeah, something the OP overlooked but I thought I'd toss in here just to put the nail in the coffin. OP seems to forget that many of us old timers were long term TZD customers who often had lengthy discussions with the guys who ran TZD. If this thing had been produced at any type of level they would have had one, or a few even, and had mentioned it at one point in any of their given conversations to customers or to Nanto, and it would have been sold before their sellout to Red Frog, or sold by Red Frog upon acquisition of all the remainder of the TZD stock.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: bob on February 10, 2015, 03:24:54 AM
null, those look rare.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 10, 2015, 03:28:02 AM
The best part about this supposed proof is that it corroborates what we've been saying all along: it's been painted after the fact. Whether it was painted by some guy in TTi's marketing department (and it would've had to have been TTi and not NEC, genius) or it was painted by madboom doesn't matter; either way, it's just a paint job, not a factory hardware revision.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Medic_wheat on February 10, 2015, 03:31:35 AM
Honestly?
I looks like it got sprayed with a layer of clear coat or something.
Well.......so long as it plays TG games it gets a shiny pass.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Ninja16608 on February 10, 2015, 04:24:00 AM
Hey nully, you have spare set I could get from ya? In either case like I said, I knew nothing of it at the start. I have had people tell me its was done after the fact (which I tended to believe until another told me it was a promo give away thing that never came to light) and it was made clear that he worked as a publisher and was in the office when they came back and they were offered to him. So I wanted to dig deeper. I like most of you I did not work for NEC/TTI or any other entity so we really have no clue. Unless the one who did the job or the person who gave the info comes out and says otherwise I guess the world will never know.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on February 10, 2015, 04:50:58 AM
I like most of you I did not work for NEC/TTI or any other entity so we really have no clue.
Thats where you are wrong. Like I said, many of us old timers here including Nanto, who owns this website, have had conversations with Nec/TTi employees at one point in our lives, either verbally over the phone, by stopping into TZD in California, or via email correspondence. This thing is clearly bullshit. Some guy just took a system apart and waxed or clear coated the shell to give it a gloss and stuck it back together. People have been doing this to game systems for the past few years now There is nothing further to discuss on the matter. As for this guy who told you its real, drop some legit name already and quit quoting some mysterious resource, or gtfo. It just makes you look more fake then ever. And also, the Duo looks ugly as f*ck all. Mirror finishes do not always = better.
Title: Glossy Duo?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 10, 2015, 05:24:29 AM
My God you are an idiot.
Given the lack of any hard facts on either side, we are left with logic, and nothing about this story of yours is logical. Why would they do it? Why would they do it in such a half ass way? Why do your photos sucks so bad? Only someone even stupider than you would buy this story.
It's so lazy! Remember Super China Warrior? That shit actually had me going for a minute. This stuff is just ghetto and lame. You couldn't even be bothered to use a real can of paint, just clear. You couldn't bother to take the unit apart and paint it properly.
I promise you, we *are* stupid enough to fall for a decent scam, but this isn't it! This is just more trailer park capitalism.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Arkhan on February 10, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
In other news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbKF_q4evkM
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: ClodBuster on February 10, 2015, 05:42:04 AM
Like I keep telling you clowns, it's not my story. I am simply repeating what was told to me. You guys fully fall under mob mentality, hahaha guess this would make me much smarter than most here since you all have nothing to back your story, nor do I, but you clowns huh you clowns are really in a league all your own :-) Stupidity runs deep here because even the title of the thread suggest a question or did we loose sight of that too...let me see ...yup sure did when one fool turns the key on the band wagon every one jumps on. I was not the one who fired the first shot here unless trying to find the truth of the matter is an attack? O digging deeper and finding something that no one would believe anyhow. You may have had friends that worked there but NEC is a pretty large company and no one person other then the CEO or his guys might know whats going on in all aspects of the company. Once the flood gates open I guess ignorance flows free here. Sad sad day in the turbo collectors world. :|
Comrade, there are many, many unverifiable stories that are presented as fact.
We have witnessed many stories turn out to be fanciful tales, with no basis in reality.
You cannot possibly expect the average forum member to swallow your story.
Until more convincing evidence is presented, we are filing this anecdote under "uninspired and unconvincing".
I would love to file it under "verified fact", but I suspect we will be waiting a long, long time for that...
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Opethian on February 10, 2015, 07:56:48 AM
I promise you, we *are* stupid enough to fall for a decent scam, but this isn't it! This is just more trailer park capitalism.
Capitalism would imply I was trying to sell this thing, I am not, and I can see why the person who said this info to would not want to come forward, did you think I didn't realize saying he wont come forward would look worse, of course it does. I did not paint it as I do not have the skill to paint stuff like this much less my own walls at home. I wasn't trying to pass anything off as anything, or scam anyone. The pictures are bad and I will put up some new ones taken out in sun light if anyone wants a closer look at it. As I said before I don't give two shits if it was NEC/TTI or some shumck in a paint booth with a steady hand. I just thought it was neat because I have never seen one like it. Sue me for asking, and no I wasn't hell bent on it being "rare/unique" item I just have more of an open mind than most I guess. You are free to continue poking fun and insulting all you like, unfortunate for the masses I don't get riled up over such silly things, life has much more important matters to attend to. No this was not an attempt to get everyone going but it seems that happened anyway. Unwind your panties and everyone breath, we can close the glossy duo? chapter.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: HailingTheThings on February 10, 2015, 11:21:14 PM
This thread is like that movie groundhog day. Every morning I wake up, open my browser, and the exact same series of posts from the exact same people are here.
Lol! Almost every day ninja will do a post with "..it's not my story. I am simply repeating what was told to me..." followed by an excuse or story or insult!
This thread is McDonalds and I'm Luvin it! (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fa/8b/94/fa8b94cc2056dc542d1fcf5f3faeaac9.jpg)
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Sarumaru on February 11, 2015, 05:19:30 AM
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Jibbajaba on February 11, 2015, 07:04:49 AM
Fair enough, then. As you were.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Gentlegamer on February 11, 2015, 07:47:30 AM
If I were more talented, I would make a Johnny Turbo comic where he stops FEKA goons from selling kids fake glossy Turbo Duos.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Bernie on February 11, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
Wouldn't it be some shit if there really did turn out to be some weird sort of variation like this? I mean, look at the clam shell rental cases. I am just wondering, if it could be possible that something like this was made right during the Duo's last days in production. Hell, I dunno. Would be cool if it actually turned out to be a true variation. Be better if the source would come forward though.. :( I don't think the OP is lying about buying it this way, I just want to know where the info is coming from.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: Necromancer on February 11, 2015, 08:57:43 AM
It's a slim possibility, Bernie, but the odds are astronomically against it.
Title: Re: Glossy Duo?
Post by: bob on February 11, 2015, 08:59:40 AM