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Title: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Nexus7 on January 03, 2015, 11:04:16 PM
I hear that there might be compatibility issues if you get your TG-16 region modded.  Is this true?
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 03, 2015, 11:18:22 PM
I have never had issues with it.  But, there have been some reports of it.  I am going to say it depends on where the region mod is power sourced from.  One of the techs here may chime in, but I also think it's been discussed before as well.  Basically, if you get one of the new board type region mods, that most the guys here do, then you will be fine.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Nexus7 on January 03, 2015, 11:25:58 PM
I was going to send it out to Game.Tech.US.  I asked him if his mod works with the TED, but he said he never tested it yet.   Here is how he does the mod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CFEstabtrc#t=563
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 03, 2015, 11:33:10 PM
His will work.  He used the new boards that were designed by the guys here in the forums. 
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Nexus7 on January 03, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
Awesome.   

One last question.   

Will the Japanese Super System Card 3.0 work with this mod as well?   This is really one of the main reasons why I want to get a region mod. The US version is just too damn expensive.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 04, 2015, 01:13:32 AM
Yes, it will.  :)

Also, let me know if you want my Turbo EverDrive folder setup.  Has everything you want and more in there, nicely organized.   :lol:
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Gentlegamer on January 04, 2015, 02:39:26 AM
Keith Courage's region mods are TED compatible.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: GohanX on January 04, 2015, 03:58:39 AM
I've mostly seen issues with region modded Core Grafx systems, not TG16s with the TED (which is the opposite of the Neoflash cart.)

The TED works fine on all of my systems, and they are modded to hell and back.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: turbokon on January 04, 2015, 04:09:46 AM
The only issues I have ever encountered is with the region modded white pc-engine and coregrafx not working with the everdrive.  Keeping the wires short and tapping voltage from the regulator will help when doing region mods on said systems.


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Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: cjameslv on January 04, 2015, 07:20:53 AM
I hear that there might be compatibility issues if you get your TG-16 region modded.  Is this true?

Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod (this is assuming you don't already have a region mod tg16 before buying the ted) all you do is hit the tg16/pce switch, and make sure you put the 1.0/2.0/3.0 super cdrom rom in root dir so you can use it with your cd player, no need for a cd card if you have ted.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: SephirothTNH on January 04, 2015, 07:24:31 AM
Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod...
Not really.  You would still need a region mod for all the legitimate out of region games you would want to own.  Having an everdrive doesn't remove the desire to have legitimate games in one's collection.  At least for some of us. 
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: cjameslv on January 04, 2015, 07:28:28 AM
Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod...
Not really.  You would still need a region mod for all the legitimate out of region games you would want to own.  Having an everdrive doesn't remove the desire to have legitimate games in one's collection.  At least for some of us.

His question wasn't about collecting or using legitimate games. And the beauty of the ted is you can still collect games and display them on your shelf vs having to continuously use the actual game and possibly shorten its life, expose it to spills, smoke or whatnot. 

Edit** Wait just reread your statement, i assume you don't own a ted by your reply. It doesn't matter what region the rom is from, you can use it for all hucard based games and homebrew.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: SephirothTNH on January 04, 2015, 07:51:06 AM
His question wasn't about collecting or using legitimate games.
???  I know.  His question was if there were compatibility issues between a TED and a region modded TG16.  It was quite clear and easy to understand and already answered.  I don't understand what bearing that has on my response.


Edit** Wait just reread your statement, i assume you don't own a ted by your reply. It doesn't matter what region the rom is from, you can use it for all hucard based games and homebrew.
I don't own a ted but I understand fully how it works.  It does not preclude the end users desire to take it out of the system and pop in a legit hu card. 

I do own a Everdrive N8 and I still regularly play legitimate nes carts.  Even though the game would work just fine on the N8. 
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 04, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
I hear that there might be compatibility issues if you get your TG-16 region modded.  Is this true?

Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod (this is assuming you don't already have a region mod tg16 before buying the ted) all you do is hit the tg16/pce switch, and make sure you put the 1.0/2.0/3.0 super cdrom rom in root dir so you can use it with your cd player, no need for a cd card if you have ted.

Right and wrong.  You can use the 1.0 and 2.0 on the regular Turbo Grafx 16 machines and PC Engines, but not the 3.0 bios.  The system lacks the RAM for this one.  If being used on a Duo, then yeah, you could use whatever bios you wanted.  You also do not have to hit the pce/turbo switch for anything really.  Only time it is needed is if you switch from one region machine to the next.  The Turbo ED patches roms on the fly, from any region. 
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: cjameslv on January 04, 2015, 09:05:08 AM
I hear that there might be compatibility issues if you get your TG-16 region modded.  Is this true?

Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod (this is assuming you don't already have a region mod tg16 before buying the ted) all you do is hit the tg16/pce switch, and make sure you put the 1.0/2.0/3.0 super cdrom rom in root dir so you can use it with your cd player, no need for a cd card if you have ted.

Right and wrong.  You can use the 1.0 and 2.0 on the regular Turbo Grafx 16 machines and PC Engines, but not the 3.0 bios.  The system lacks the RAM for this one...

Hmm, this one maybe has to do with the version# of the ted perhaps or possibly something else?  I use the 3.0 for all my games currently and it works on my tg16 cd (see sig pic). I haven't used the other versions as no need has arose where it didn't work yet. I have heard altered beast needs 1.0 but i don't have that game to confirm this.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Nexus7 on January 04, 2015, 09:05:20 AM
I hear that there might be compatibility issues if you get your TG-16 region modded.  Is this true?

Odd question, as if you have ted then you don't need a region mod (this is assuming you don't already have a region mod tg16 before buying the ted) all you do is hit the tg16/pce switch, and make sure you put the 1.0/2.0/3.0 super cdrom rom in root dir so you can use it with your cd player, no need for a cd card if you have ted.


But the Super System Card 3.0 has extra ram.   Does the TED have ram built in that can act as a system 3.0 card?
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 04, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
No, it does not.  You cannot use the 3.0 BIOS with the Turbo EverDrive at this time.  You can use the others however.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Necromancer on January 05, 2015, 03:52:01 AM
You need the region mod for Arcade Card sexy time too.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on January 05, 2015, 07:32:01 AM
You need the region mod for Arcade Card sexy time too.
Damn skippy!!
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: NightWolve on January 09, 2015, 12:29:54 PM
Yeah, good point, you would still want a region mod on a US system for the Japanese Arcade Card Duo. As Shawn mentioned, using good, [copper] short wires and tapping the voltage directly from the output leg of the 5 Volt regulator solves region mod + flashcart problems. When you tap the voltage from the AV out or elsewhere, it's gone through traces in the motherboard and gained resistance as a result, so there's a slight voltage drop and less juice availability.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Keith Courage on January 09, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Turbo everdrive region switch compatibility.

Both US Turbo Grafx and JP DUO-R systems work just fine with both an 8PDT switch or chip based region switch

Regular DUO systems both US and JP require a chip based mod and tapping of 5V from the 7805 voltage regulator.

PC engine/Core grafx require a chip based mod with the wires being as short as possible and tapping the 5V from the 7805 voltage regulator.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on February 04, 2015, 07:27:13 AM
Strangest thing happened last night.  I fired up The Legendary Axe, via EverDrive, on the PC Engine Duo  I recently got from turbokon, and it played just fine...until the second level.  The graphics were all out of whack, big time.  My character sprite was fine, but the level itself was all jacked up. I couldn't proceed more than half a screen.  The lava river that flows underneath the level floor?  It was also in a strange place....it literally split the screen in half from top to bottom.  The rocks were solid, and I could jump onto them, sometimes making it through.  Strangest thing I have ever encountered with my EverDrive.  Now, I fired up the same game, same rom, on my Turbo Duo...it played just fine..no issues at all.  Japanese rom played just fine on the PCE, so I am not really sure what the hell went down.... 
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Medic_wheat on February 04, 2015, 07:53:37 AM
Yes, it will.  :)

Also, let me know if you want my Turbo EverDrive folder setup.  Has everything you want and more in there, nicely organized.   :lol:

Hey Bernie can you Hooke me up with this?  I need to fix my Everdrive folders. Mine are sloppy and done like badly.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Bernie on February 04, 2015, 07:56:37 AM
Yeah, I will PM you the link.
Title: Re: Will the TED work on a region modded TG-16?
Post by: Medic_wheat on February 04, 2015, 08:01:44 AM
Yeah, I will PM you the link.

Thank you