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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: mitsuman on March 14, 2015, 03:27:35 PM

Title: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: mitsuman on March 14, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
I bid on both of them, but kept my bids low. But I'm not really surprised at how high they went.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-TurboTeam-Veteran-RARE-TG16-/221709878139?_trkparms=gh1g%3DI221709878139.N15.S1.M-77.R1.TR2.R1.TR2&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=PdoPIz%252FpncLJuPF%252FdNt8rwRkL80%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-First-Production-Unit-RARE-TG16-/221709865526?_trkparms=gh1g%3DI221709865526.N15.S2.M-109.R1.TR1.R1.TR1&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=PdoPIz%252FpncLJuPF%252FdNt8rwRkL80%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: mickcris on March 14, 2015, 04:02:14 PM
Those are pretty neat.  Cant believe they left the power to that console on this whole time!
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Black Tiger on March 14, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
Easy way to make a lot of money fast. Will not be surprised to soon see many more rare promo items surface on eBay.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 15, 2015, 03:17:19 AM
With zero provenance I honestly wouldn't pay a dime for either of those.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: toymachine78 on March 15, 2015, 03:35:22 AM
I'm with zeta. It would not be difficult nor expensive to fabricate those.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: TurboGrafx on March 15, 2015, 04:05:52 AM
They are cool if they are legit.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: mitsuman on March 15, 2015, 04:31:23 AM
With zero provenance I honestly wouldn't pay a dime for either of those.
Yup, that's why I kept my bids low.
If I won the hucard holder thing, I was going to raffle it off here.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: EvilEvoIX on March 15, 2015, 05:29:39 AM
This looks like someone just went to a local trophy store and asked for a plexiglass box and the cheapest engraving possible.  I mean a Keith Courage game in a stupid block?  How are people falling for this shit?
Title: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on March 15, 2015, 06:04:03 AM
This looks like someone just went to a local trophy store and asked for a plexiglass box and the cheapest engraving possible.  I mean a Keith Courage game in a stupid block?  How are people falling for this shit?

If it is real, I would love to have one. However, I am not willing to spend $$$ on anything. Especially unverified stuff.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: jperryss on March 15, 2015, 06:30:50 AM
If it is real, I would love to have one. However, I am not willing to spend $$$ on anything. Especially unverified stuff.

Not to worry. I'm sure the next one that is "found" will be VGA graded with a BIN of $5K.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: GoldenWheels on March 15, 2015, 06:31:09 AM
Huh. The system piece is neat, if real. I'm not Columbo or anything but if you look at the pic of the underside of the plaque, it does look like some pretty old glue.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: wildfruit on March 15, 2015, 06:31:17 AM
With zero provenance I honestly wouldn't pay a dime for either of those.
I thought exactly the same thing. Though less eloquently.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Phase on March 15, 2015, 06:34:36 AM
Someone should contact the dude, see what his story is.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on March 15, 2015, 06:59:42 AM
A former poster on this site DreamTR was at one point in possession of the first off the production line TurboGrafx16. Depending on the history of this item, I wouldn't be surprised if this were real.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Lost Monkey on March 15, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
Someone should contact the dude, see what his story is.

Too bad the turbo list archive is down, I am pretty sure he was active on there 15 years ago.  He programmed a Pac Man clone in HuC called Krunch back around 2000...
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on March 15, 2015, 07:19:15 AM
I kinda wonder the back story of those items. are they one of the very first produced if its kind? are they prototypes?

hmmmmm.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 15, 2015, 07:53:06 AM
This looks like someone just went to a local trophy store and asked for a plexiglass box and the cheapest engraving possible.  I mean a Keith Courage game in a stupid block?  How are people falling for this shit?

If they were real, that's probably exactly what they'd do. That's why provenance is key. There is no real difference between "real" and "fake" with items like this so you have to have a complete history.

I think they look perfectly real, or perfectly fake. Either way.

I like how the seller basically prepares the bidders to see a wave of identical "first" TG-16s. If 100 more of these show up next month he can just say, "Hey, I warned you."

If they were real then they were a good buy, IMO. If fake, probably nobody will ever know. But who needs ANOTHER copy of Keith?
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 15, 2015, 07:55:02 AM
I kinda wonder the back story of those items. are they one of the very first produced if its kind? are they prototypes?

hmmmmm.

A "prototype" is generally something aimed for mass production at a later date. As far as I know NEC never released an unusable TG16 entombed in plastic so I think we can rule out prototype.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on March 15, 2015, 08:25:12 AM
This looks like someone just went to a local trophy store and asked for a plexiglass box and the cheapest engraving possible.  I mean a Keith Courage game in a stupid block?  How are people falling for this shit?

If they were real, that's probably exactly what they'd do. That's why provenance is key. There is no real difference between "real" and "fake" with items like this so you have to have a complete history.

I think they look perfectly real, or perfectly fake. Either way.

I like how the seller basically prepares the bidders to see a wave of identical "first" TG-16s. If 100 more of these show up next month he can just say, "Hey, I warned you."

If they were real then they were a good buy, IMO. If fake, probably nobody will ever know. But who needs ANOTHER copy of Keith?

I would totally love a copy of Keith if I knew it sat next to a "Turbo Veteran" --ha!

Also, something had to be done with all the extra HuCARD's lying around :)

Actually, I feel that we should copy this idea and make some silly awards in the same style.

OR MAYBE A ICE CRYSTAL-ESQUE DISPLAY for HuCARD's reminiscent of Krypton in Superman 1970's.

Plexiglass glows...HuCARD's look awesome...
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Lost Monkey on March 15, 2015, 01:18:45 PM


I would totally love a copy of Keith if I knew it sat next to a "Turbo Veteran" --ha!

Also, something had to be done with all the extra HuCARD's lying around :)

Actually, I feel that we should copy this idea and make some silly awards in the same style.

OR MAYBE A ICE CRYSTAL-ESQUE DISPLAY for HuCARD's reminiscent of Krypton in Superman 1970's.

Plexiglass glows...HuCARD's look awesome...


Now if we could just find a Nazi to make them for us....
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on March 15, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Hahaahhahahahahahahaha. Nazi + plexiglass = TG-16 logo on plexiglass.

Oh, the insanity of that debacle.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Necromancer on March 16, 2015, 05:10:05 AM
The SN sticker sure looks like it's be applied atop another sticker.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: jelloslug on March 16, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
The SN sticker sure looks like it's be applied atop another sticker.
It sure does. 
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: BigusSchmuck on March 16, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
Butt crack smoke, lots and lots of butt crack.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on March 16, 2015, 08:36:40 AM

The SN sticker sure looks like it's be applied atop another sticker.
It sure does.

I wish the image was better quality.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: Lost Monkey on March 16, 2015, 09:28:59 AM
The SN sticker sure looks like it's be applied atop another sticker.

Lol! Of all the nincompoop type things to mess up! 

Rule #1 of faking a serial # label, take the old one off first!

This almost makes me think it is real.  Who would be so brazen and stupid to fake something like that so badly...
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: wildfruit on April 15, 2015, 10:53:50 AM
The buyer has revealed themselves
https://mobile.twitter.com/stevenplin
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: galam on April 15, 2015, 11:09:03 AM
The buyer has revealed themselves
https://mobile.twitter.com/stevenplin

Holy f*ck. Some judge should rule that this guy not be allowed within 100 feet of the internet.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on April 15, 2015, 11:27:03 AM
I kinda kept quiet on this, because I don't like outright accusing anyone of fraud with no legit proof of some kind to work with. But as is, my understanding is that only Keith Schaefer was issued a Keith Courage TurboTeam Veteran piece. His was also the first Keith card made. It was a lighter blue I do believe, and "Keith Courage" name was yellowish in color, and the "Turbo Team Veteran" logo was in a lower position on the base. I have a pic of it in a book somewhere here.

I think it's that High Score! book I have put away in a closet that has a pic of it. I mean it is possible that they gave out more of them, sure. But the only one I ever saw was of the one given to Keith Schaefer, and as is I would assume the one in the auction was a fake inspired by the one shown in my book, unless a prior NEC employee comes forward to confirm it was theirs or something.



Lol! Of all the nincompoop type things to mess up! 

Rule #1 of faking a serial # label, take the old one off first!

This almost makes me think it is real.  Who would be so brazen and stupid to fake something like that so badly...

Dion Dakis and Chris R of NeoGeo Freaks?
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: dallaspattern on April 15, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
How the heck did you find this dude on twitter?!
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on April 16, 2015, 12:09:47 AM
I don't know what to make of any of this, except that the best thing to do with loose copies of Keith Courage is to display them in plexiglass TurboTeam stands.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 16, 2015, 05:48:38 AM
I wish I had the time to waste manufacturing these stupid things by the dozen and totally tanking the value of the original with it.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: DreamTR on March 19, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
I know this is long old, but that was the first production Turbo Grafx unit. It was given to the owner of TZD when he was working at TTI personally. When TZD sold their inventory I was able to purchase the #1 unit and a bunch of rare counselor strategy game player guides (like Nintendo's service center used) and a giant Bonk among other things.

I sold the #1 TG to the ebay seller, I can tell you he lost a lot of money on this because he didn't buy it from me at the price it sold for.

Either way, I hope this help's for posterity's sake. I also had some Turbo Grafx protos (a bunch) over the years but most of them have been purchased by one buyer over the years.
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: HailingTheThings on March 19, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
Tell me more!
Title: Re: So, anyone on here get these?
Post by: esteban on March 20, 2017, 01:15:43 PM
I know this is long old, but that was the first production Turbo Grafx unit. It was given to the owner of TZD when he was working at TTI personally. When TZD sold their inventory I was able to purchase the #1 unit and a bunch of rare counselor strategy game player guides (like Nintendo's service center used) and a giant Bonk among other things.

I sold the #1 TG to the ebay seller, I can tell you he lost a lot of money on this because he didn't buy it from me at the price it sold for.

Either way, I hope this help's for posterity's sake. I also had some Turbo Grafx protos (a bunch) over the years but most of them have been purchased by one buyer over the years.

I just want to echo everything nullity said: MOAR PLEASE.

We are very eager to hear anything you can share with us.

Thank you.

:)