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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: T2KFreeker on July 18, 2006, 01:14:31 PM
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Okay, so I have this totally sweet game for my Turbo complete, but I have to ask, did any of the other Ninja Gaiden games release for the PC Engine? I'm not sure if they did. I will go searching if they did though as I still believe that the PC Engine version of this game was just amazing!
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Nope there are no other NG's for PCE.
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T2KFreeker Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: NINJA GAIDEN PC Engine?
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Okay, so I have this totally sweet game for my Turbo complete, but I have to ask, did any of the other Ninja Gaiden games release for the PC Engine? I'm not sure if they did. I will go searching if they did though as I still believe that the PC Engine version of this game was just amazing!
No offense, but have you played the NES version?
The PCE version sucks in comparison- Only thing it has on the original is a better color palette. It's not an awful game, but side by side with the original it is.
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I've been looking into the trilogy for SNES, but don't have a single Ninja Gaiden in the collection. Any reason to buy the originals over the trilogy?
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I've been looking into the trilogy for SNES, but don't have a single Ninja Gaiden in the collection. Any reason to buy the originals over the trilogy?
I will say this, STAY AWAY FROM THE TRILOGY, it sucks ass! Their little "Updates" to the games were aweful as the controls just fell off making the game a twitchy piece of crap. The original NES versions arer a better bet for the original Trilogy, not that SNES piece of crap. Notice how rare it is? Because no one wanted it when it released as it sucked badly! I hate to say it because it should have been awesome, it wasn't unfortunantly!
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Damn right, they f*cked up Ninja Gaiden 3 on the SNES Trilogy too.
They took out my favorite tune from the NES, the real Act 3-2/6-1 music.
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Damn right, they f*cked up Ninja Gaiden 3 on the SNES Trilogy too.
They took out my favorite tune from the NES, the real Act 3-2/6-1 music.
Well, that being said, I really did like the NES versions of the games and I really did appreciate the PC Engine version of the original as it is the same damn game, just with a fuller color pallette, which is cool, at least the controls weren't all messed up like the SNES version! Still makes me want to puke!
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Actually... the SNES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy is a decent game to own, just don't pay too much for it. The real faults of it are the inferior music, and lacks of certain special effects (like parallaxing backgrounds). The color is deeper and things look a bit more detailed, but with the lack of certain effects, it's lost. The PCE version of NG1 is decent. Poor parallax effect, inferior tunes. Graphics however were pretty nice. My main complaints against the PCE version are: 1. Spinning swords doesn't work against bosses like it is supposed to. 2. Music isn't as catchy and fitting as the NES version. 3. Strange script differences. 4. Lack of certain effects from the NES.
Anyways, I highly recommend buying the 3 NES cartridges. Nothing is better. They are the ultimate versions, and no superior version is available nor will ever be. However if you have a PCE NG1, don't count it out. I'd love to aqquire it someday, just that it's rather pricey.
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Actually... the SNES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy is a decent game to own, just don't pay too much for it. The real faults of it are the inferior music, and lacks of certain special effects (like parallaxing backgrounds). The color is deeper and things look a bit more detailed, but with the lack of certain effects, it's lost. The PCE version of NG1 is decent. Poor parallax effect, inferior tunes. Graphics however were pretty nice. My main complaints against the PCE version are: 1. Spinning swords doesn't work against bosses like it is supposed to. 2. Music isn't as catchy and fitting as the NES version. 3. Strange script differences. 4. Lack of certain effects from the NES.
Anyways, I highly recommend buying the 3 NES cartridges. Nothing is better. They are the ultimate versions, and no superior version is available nor will ever be. However if you have a PCE NG1, don't count it out. I'd love to aqquire it someday, just that it's rather pricey.
Yeah, mine is complete, even have the spine card! :)
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I'd settle for just the HuCard! ='( Infact I'd like any HuCards. I have 2, the ACD DUO and SF2CE. Unfortunately japanese/PCE HuCards aren't that cheap to obtain.
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Yeah, mine is complete, even have the spine card!
Do you mean registration card?
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I'd settle for just the HuCard! ='( Infact I'd like any HuCards. I have 2, the ACD DUO and SF2CE. Unfortunately japanese/PCE HuCards aren't that cheap to obtain.
Airmail shipping from Japan is like $5 and takes 2 - 3 days to arrive here in Canada.
There are hundreds of PC Engine HuCards available on eBay for $1 - $5, including lots of hits. If you're a real big spender, some other great titles can be had for as much as $10 each.
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I'd settle for just the HuCard! ='( Infact I'd like any HuCards. I have 2, the ACD DUO and SF2CE. Unfortunately japanese/PCE HuCards aren't that cheap to obtain.
Look up Asemasterautotechnician on ebay. He sells the Japanese Hu Cards for very good prices. I have dealt with him on several occasions, and although he is a little bizarre, he is a stand up guy and takes care of his customers. And no, I am not talking about the registration card, as that came with it as well, but Ninja Gaiden came with a Spine Card as well. I bought it brand new.
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
DUDE! You have to tell us who 16-bit is! A 40+ year old nerd? A twenty-something lucky bastard who makes lots of cash on ebay? If he has any children, I've significantly contributed to their college fund, I'll tell you that. :)
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
DUDE! You have to tell us who 16-bit is! A 40+ year old nerd? A twenty-something lucky bastard who makes lots of cash on ebay? If he has any children, I've significantly contributed to their college fund, I'll tell you that. :)
The latter, looks to be in his upper 20's. That guy was cool as hell! He took a break once, and we played some Rescue Mission for Sega Master System together. We didn't get to talk much because at Magfest 5, I was coming down with the flu and had a laryngitis problem so I couldn't talk.
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I really can't bring myself to really play the PCE verison of Ninja Gaiden. I think its mostly the music. The NES tunes are awsome and the PCE should have just been better, but I was greatly disappointed in that department. That said I still like it as a PCE game, but like everyone said the NES verisons are just better.
Speaking of 16-bit, he was at Tekkoshocon in Pittsburgh (actually the expo center in Monroeville) this year too. I bought SF2:CE off him in just about brand new condition along with Tales of Phantasia (PSX), an avenue 6 pad, Fire Emblem 3, Hyper Iria, SRW Final F. Suffice to say I did little else at the con but buy games. Then we talked for like 2 hours on gaming stuff. He definately is a fellow gamer. He said he was going to be at the East Coast Gaming Expo in Reading, PA this year. Three of my friends and I are definately going. It should be a blast.
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The fact that the PCE version of NG is a port of the *NES* version is a testament to the greatness of the NES version :)
... Rescue Mission ...
If ever there was a gain that would allow you to bond with 16-bit, it would be Rescue Mission! :)
He said he was going to be at the East Coast Gaming Expo in Reading, PA this year. Three of my friends and I are definately going. It should be a blast.
Hey, when is that? I'll be in New Jersey and I have to educate myself on the East Coast events.
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
DUDE! You have to tell us who 16-bit is! A 40+ year old nerd? A twenty-something lucky bastard who makes lots of cash on ebay? If he has any children, I've significantly contributed to their college fund, I'll tell you that. :)
Damn, he is where I got my Japanese converter and the Brand new Ninja Gaiden, small world indeed!
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I'll be in New Jersey and I have to educate myself on the East Coast events.
I'll vouch for that.
Otakon 2006 -August 4-6 2006 in Baltimore Maryland. (I have doubts I'll make it to this one)
Magfest 6 - January 4-7, 2007 in Vienna, Virginia, right on the edge of Virginia into Maryland.
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Its the last Saturday and Sunday of August, which would be the 26th and 27th. Actually I think there was talk of getting together and going to an arcade on Friday, but I don't want to pay for an extra day at the hotel. They have a web page up at www.ecgxpo.com (http://www.ecgxpo.com/) . I'm looking forward to the Atari Combat competition even if I haven't played it in years. Maybe I should start a thread about it in General Chat and see how many east coasters are going. It would be cool to meet up with some of you guys.
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Its the last Saturday and Sunday of August, which would be the 26th and 27th. Actually I think there was talk of getting together and going to an arcade on Friday, but I don't want to pay for an extra day at the hotel. They have a web page up at www.ecgxpo.com (http://www.ecgxpo.com/) . I'm looking forward to the Atari Combat competition even if I haven't played it in years. Maybe I should start a thread about it in General Chat and see how many east coasters are going. It would be cool to meet up with some of you guys.
Oh man, that's in west PA. I live just 13 miles from NYC in northern NJ, so it would be .... 120 miles for me.
That's not to say I won't go. But do folks actually live out in West PA?
I'm driving cross-country in a few days and I'll be drive through PA (I am on Rt. 80, IIRC). It always seemed very rural around there.
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
DUDE! You have to tell us who 16-bit is! A 40+ year old nerd? A twenty-something lucky bastard who makes lots of cash on ebay? If he has any children, I've significantly contributed to their college fund, I'll tell you that. :)
Damn, he is where I got my Japanese converter and the Brand new Ninja Gaiden, small world indeed!
Ah dang, you win. Mine didn't come with a spine card, lol. It's all good though as long as I got it.
It's crazy though that it's a mixed bag of feelings toward the PCE version.
I forgot to mention that at Magfest, and this ain't no lie either, the moment I bought the game from 16 bit, I beat it the first time I slipped the card into my Duo-R. I didn't die nor use any ninja magic on Masked Devil, Jaquio and the demon statue. Thing is, the demon statue doesn't behave like the one on the NES. In fact his weak spot is more accessible making him slightly easier.
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I own and beat all 3 NES Ninja Gaidens and the PCE one.
Technically I didn't pay much for my PCE Ninja Gaiden, something still had to give. I got mine from Ebay user 16-bit/Mad Gear LLC (I bought it from the guy IN person at Magfest 5) I had to give up one of my best Super Famicom games for the credit. Of course it hurt badly in the initial moment but it was worth it.
DUDE! You have to tell us who 16-bit is! A 40+ year old nerd? A twenty-something lucky bastard who makes lots of cash on ebay? If he has any children, I've significantly contributed to their college fund, I'll tell you that. :)
Damn, he is where I got my Japanese converter and the Brand new Ninja Gaiden, small world indeed!
Ah dang, you win. Mine didn't come with a spine card, lol. It's all good though as long as I got it.
It's crazy though that it's a mixed bag of feelings toward the PCE version.
I forgot to mention that at Magfest, and this ain't no lie either, the moment I bought the game from 16 bit, I beat it the first time I slipped the card into my Duo-R. I didn't die nor use any ninja magic on Masked Devil, Jaquio and the demon statue. Thing is, the demon statue doesn't behave like the one on the NES. In fact his weak spot is more accessible making him slightly easier.
Well, it's all good, I just really liked the PC Engine version. It was a nice version. Funny thjing is that people seem to think that I hate the NES versions, which is just crazy! I like pretty much any version of this game as long as it ain't the Genesis/Megadrive version!
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It's crazy though that it's a mixed bag of feelings toward the PCE version.
I forgot to mention that at Magfest, and this ain't no lie either, the moment I bought the game from 16 bit, I beat it the first time I slipped the card into my Duo-R. I didn't die nor use any ninja magic on Masked Devil, Jaquio and the demon statue. Thing is, the demon statue doesn't behave like the one on the NES. In fact his weak spot is more accessible making him slightly easier.
I'm the same way. Although I love trying any and every port of cool games, I can still spot the negative differences between them, rank them as games in general and seperately as ports, all while having personal favorites that aren't necisarily the ultimate version of any given game.
I think that many last-gen to next-gen ports suffer when they try to pretty much recycle the original instead of totally redoing certain things.
A great example of how a straight 8-bit to 16-bit port should be done is Adventure Island/Dragon's Curse.
WBIII/MWII is still a better game simply because of the secret shops and warps that become accessible when you max out your charm stones(why the hell would they remove this!?!?), but the PCE/Turbo game technically has all-round better graphics and sound and arguably, gameplay/controls(the jump from 15fps to 60fps sure is nice :D ).
But the original is still better in my opinion and favorite-wise they're equal.
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It's crazy though that it's a mixed bag of feelings toward the PCE version.
I forgot to mention that at Magfest, and this ain't no lie either, the moment I bought the game from 16 bit, I beat it the first time I slipped the card into my Duo-R. I didn't die nor use any ninja magic on Masked Devil, Jaquio and the demon statue. Thing is, the demon statue doesn't behave like the one on the NES. In fact his weak spot is more accessible making him slightly easier.
I'm the same way. Although I love trying any and every port of cool games, I can still spot the negative differences between them, rank them as games in general and seperately as ports, all while having personal favorites that aren't necisarily the ultimate version of any given game.
I think that many last-gen to next-gen ports suffer when they try to pretty much recycle the original instead of totally redoing certain things.
A great example of how a straight 8-bit to 16-bit port should be done is Adventure Island/Dragon's Curse.
WBIII/MWII is still a better game simply because of the secret shops and warps that become accessible when you max out your charm stones(why the hell would they remove this!?!?), but the PCE/Turbo game technically has all-round better graphics and sound and arguably, gameplay/controls(the jump from 15fps to 60fps sure is nice :D ).
But the original is still better in my opinion and favorite-wise they're equal.
Well said, B_T, well said. I have nothing to add :)
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Oh man, that's in west PA. I live just 13 miles from NYC in northern NJ, so it would be .... 120 miles for me.
That's not to say I won't go. But do folks actually live out in West PA?
I'm driving cross-country in a few days and I'll be drive through PA (I am on Rt. 80, IIRC). It always seemed very rural around there.
Heh, exist might be a better term to use :lol: . Yeah I happen to live about an hour north of Pittsburgh and the boonies doesn't even begin to describe it. Reading is probably about 2 or so hours from where I'm currently living. Anyway I'm going to start a thread over in the General Chat area and see who might be going.
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Ah yeah, there are some name changes between the NES and PCE versions.
NES: Ken Hayabusa
PCE: Joe Jayabusa
NES: Irene Lew
PCE: Irene Liu
NES: Dr. Smith
PCE: Mr. Smith
NES: The Jaquio
PCE: The Devildoer
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Off topic but seeing this in your sig:
>"HuCard games? now ur talking like Phantasy Star Online... "
My PSO chara was actually called HuCard :P
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You guys have made my change my mind about buying this game... oh about 10 times due to this thread.
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You guys have made my change my mind about buying this game... oh about 10 times due to this thread.
Uhm, sorry dude. I would stick with the Original NES versions over the SNES Trilogy, that will be all! :lol:
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I just wish someone would have converted the arcade Ninja Gaiden/Shadow Warriors. I loved that game - fantastic music.
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Uhm, sorry dude. I would stick with the Original NES versions over the SNES Trilogy, that will be all! :lol:
Well i was actually talking about the PCE version..
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Uhm, sorry dude. I would stick with the Original NES versions over the SNES Trilogy, that will be all! :lol:
Well i was actually talking about the PCE version..
Well, you know my oopinion, I liked it. Wont hurt your collection to get it, there are worse things to spend your money on like the PS3! :roll:
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I personally love it, & I love the music. It's better to me then the NES music, but I don't have a huge heap of memories playing the NES version when I was a kid. The only NG game I have alot of memories with, is the arcade, which still deserves a full port with 2 player support, & the rush hour traffic!
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I just wish someone would have converted the arcade Ninja Gaiden/Shadow Warriors. I loved that game - fantastic music.
I've enjoy the arcade verison of NG as well.
Still it's limted use of weapons and continues kills it for me.
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IMO, I think the PCE boss music is better than the NES.
That's because I like that type of chord progression in boss music or any bad situtation in story lines.
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I just wish someone would have converted the arcade Ninja Gaiden/Shadow Warriors. I loved that game - fantastic music.
I've enjoy the arcade verison of NG as well.
Still it's limted use of weapons and continues kills it for me.
I played the arcade pcb to death a few years ago after getting my first arcade cabinets.
Its another classic from my youth.
At least the Lynx got a port.
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Yeah, the Lynx got a port, & for the Lynx, it's great, but, it'd be nice to have a home version, with 2 player support, & the rush hour traffic that wasn't in the Lynx version. Awe, so many games I'd love to see done on the Turbo. If only there were more programmers :D