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Title: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: wildfruit on April 08, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Following on from the recent confirmed mod-ability of le PAL GRAFX I'm interested if people love the grey colour. I know I do.
(http://circuit-board.de/forum/index.php/Attachment/22141-IMGP2149-JPG/?thumbnail=1)
This poll has no real purpose other than satisfying my own curiosity, I just prefer it in grey.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 08, 2015, 09:27:06 AM
I actually like the gray. It seems to be lighter shade of gray than SuperCD/CoreGrafx.

:)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: pulstar on April 08, 2015, 09:27:30 AM
I definitely prefer the grey over the black...but the original PC Engine design beats everything after it...
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: sirhcman on April 08, 2015, 09:31:52 AM
I think the Korean Turbob looks the best!

(http://nfggames.com/games/vistar/unit1.jpg)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: sirhcman on April 08, 2015, 09:32:39 AM
i had to call it androgynous. i sure do love the tg16 black & orange... but the PAL is pretty slick, too.  it is like a short haired girl that you check out but don't look too closely/long because you're not 100% sure it is a girl.

We sent our replies at the exact same second.. how scary is that!
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Necromancer on April 08, 2015, 10:09:45 AM
I like the color scheme of the TG, but I wouldn't say it's better than the TG-16.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Punch on April 08, 2015, 11:05:36 AM
It's the best, but stop spreading the news, or soon the PAL consoles will be gouged too. :P
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Black Tiger on April 08, 2015, 11:31:37 AM
No, and the lame logo helps kill it. It's not terrible, but it lost all the sexiness that the TG-16 has. When I picture it fully decked out with grey Turbo-CD, grey tap and grey pads... it just feels like a boring European computer/console hybrid that never took off.

I remember the feelings I had during my first proper hands-on experience with the TG-16. The tap felt like R-Type, just like the Express does. It's like a Giger meets Syd Mead aesthetic, built off of the stylings of the PC Engine hardware/accessory line.

Even the idea of a grey Booster on the back physically makes me yawn. Imagine how lame the Express/GT would look in that color with that logo.
Title: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: VenomMacbeth on April 08, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
I think the Korean Turbob looks the best!

(http://nfggames.com/games/vistar/unit1.jpg)


Dear god....

I came.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 08, 2015, 12:04:29 PM
OFFICIAL: the euro logo is lame.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: DragonmasterDan on April 08, 2015, 12:15:33 PM
OFFICIAL: the euro logo is lame.

I prefer the Orange and Black US logo, it reminds me of Halloween.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: SuperDeadite on April 08, 2015, 12:27:55 PM
The Korean version looks like they used an old cable modem for the case. XD
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: RyuHayabusa on April 08, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
I prefer the neon orange and black of the US Turbo. Reminds of the late 80s when neon orange, pink, and green was cool along with Vision Street Wear and neon colored Ray=Bans, lol.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: HailingTheThings on April 08, 2015, 04:52:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hHu4gGI.jpg)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Arkhan on April 08, 2015, 05:46:04 PM
No.  It's for hillbillies.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 09, 2015, 12:02:40 AM
I prefer the neon orange and black of the US Turbo. Reminds of the late 80s when neon orange, pink, and green was cool along with Vision Street Wear and neon colored Ray=Bans, lol.

Exactly. I love that the flourescent colors were part of the logo/branding.



MSX is for hillbillies.

Fixed that. :)
 
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: schweaty on April 10, 2015, 01:08:41 AM
I actually like the gray. It seems to be lighter shade of gray than SuperCD/CoreGrafx.

:)

its actually a little darker.  i would have thought the same if i hadnt just compared them.  who knew?
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 10, 2015, 02:48:48 AM
I actually like the gray. It seems to be lighter shade of gray than SuperCD/CoreGrafx.

:)

its actually a little darker.  i would have thought the same if i hadnt just compared them.  who knew?

Remind me again about the controller...did they change the mold to get rid of the "-16" on the pad?

YES, I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.

Plus, it is a valid point of discussion. WE SHALL NOT JUDGE CONSOLE ALONE (plus, your pic doesn't include the back cover! Holy crap, that is not fair to the poor TG-16...it was never intended to be naked like that! Poor little nub sticking out in the icy, rainy weather over there).
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Necromancer on April 10, 2015, 03:05:11 AM
Remind me again about the controller...did they change the mold to get rid of the "-16" on the pad?

Nope.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: wildfruit on April 10, 2015, 03:58:37 AM
I actually like the gray. It seems to be lighter shade of gray than SuperCD/CoreGrafx.

:)

its actually a little darker.  i would have thought the same if i hadnt just compared them.  who knew?

Remind me again about the controller...did they change the mold to get rid of the "-16" on the pad?

YES, I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.

Plus, it is a valid point of discussion. WE SHALL NOT JUDGE CONSOLE ALONE (plus, your pic doesn't include the back cover! Holy crap, that is not fair to the poor TG-16...it was never intended to be naked like that! Poor little nub sticking out in the icy, rainy weather over there).
I must admit I stole that pic from the nets. Mines all boxed away now I have my super cd rom rom.  Not too cold here its about 20 C and sunny ☀😊
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: MNKyDeth on April 10, 2015, 04:40:00 AM
I am going to have to go with a no.

I don't really like the looks of the cartridge only TG-16 units. My heart is on the US Duo. Black and grey controllers, low profile sleek setup. I mean, it's a race car with a flip top hood that takes optical and HuCard fuel.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Gredler on April 10, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
I am partial to the Orange and Yellow the US release went for nostalgic reasons beyond just the system and marketing for it. I really think those colors represent the era, I am pretty sure all of my clothing had one of those two colors at all times, just like my trapper keeper. As far as the color of the system itself, it went better with the cool kid consoles. The master system and genesis tude bled onto the turbo for me at the time. Those grey consoles were conformists, the black ones were the rebels. It carried over for the Saturn and PS1 for me too :P
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: tool on April 10, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
They are both sleek NEC design. Just vary in colors. If US would have gotten the red, white and blue like they should have, and if Europe got the yellow orange and black, then the people here would have wanted the European versions, while people in Europe would have liked the US versions. This is all about liking what you can't have. Nowadays we can have both, and I prefer the US version because the color scheme is more wild and how can you ever go wrong with black?
Title: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 11, 2015, 12:30:46 AM
They are both sleek NEC design. Just vary in colors. If US would have gotten the red, white and blue like they should have, and if Europe got the yellow orange and black, then the people here would have wanted the European versions, while people in Europe would have liked the US versions. This is all about liking what you can't have. Nowadays we can have both, and I prefer the US version because the color scheme is more wild and how can you ever go wrong with black?

I agree that black console + TG-16 colors = superior to EuroGrafx.

And, I concur that part of the appeal of EuroGrafx, for me, is that I am much less familiar with it :)

I am very grateful that North America did not get a red-white/gray-blue themed color scheme, though. The EuroGrafx logo is so bland compared to the garish fluorescence of TG-16's logo.

Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: mickcris on April 11, 2015, 03:56:38 AM
I wonder why they never made a black PC Engine (not counting the Duo).  That would have looked sweet.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 11, 2015, 03:58:17 AM
I wonder why they never made a black PC Engine (not counting the Duo).  That would have looked sweet.

They knew that only North Americans could handle it.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Gentlegamer on April 11, 2015, 04:07:23 AM
I wonder why they never made a black PC Engine (not counting the Duo).  That would have looked sweet.

CoreGrafx?
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: mickcris on April 11, 2015, 04:15:09 AM
yeah, core grafx.  I think that would have looked pretty good.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 11, 2015, 06:17:50 AM

I wonder why they never made a black PC Engine (not counting the Duo).  That would have looked sweet.

CoreGrafx?

Nobody could handle a CoreGrafx in black. Only SophistiGray.

Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Lost Monkey on April 11, 2015, 06:41:43 AM
Don't like the PalGrafx.  I have to admit I was tempted to pick one up when thesteve modded it.. but it is too ugly.  Reminds me of the pirate Famicom on a chip systems that were packed in PS1 cases 15 years ago...
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: pc_kwajalein on April 19, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
I must admit that shade of gray is nice as it highlights the shape and casing mold of the console better than solid black, but I feel the TG (PAL or NTSC) overall was unfortunately devoid of any physical features.

To me, the SNES and Genny looked better.

Ninty's console wasn't winning any beauty contests IMO, but the power/reset buttons and the eject lever were nifty constructs on an otherwise physically dull machine. The white/gray scheme with indigo buttons is a very welcome selection.

The Genny was pretty sexy with its dome-like cart slot (complete with logo), headphone jack and audio slider. The shiny black finish is boss; angles and curves can be accentuated as light reflects off the console.

The TG-16 just didn't have a visual feature to remember other than the huey slot (and that looked like it was missing something). And the black finish didn't shine like the Genny's either.

That said, NEC would eventually produce the best-looking console of the 16-bit generation (and one of the best looking consoles ever).

(http://wiki.pcengine.info/images/duorx.gif)
*sighs in rapt admiration*

As much as I adore the cute, little wonder that is the Genesis 3, the PCE Duo R/X is just all orders of aesthetic sexiness. I favor the RX in particular since that lovely combination of snow-white and delicately pale lavender graciously extends to the 6 button d-pad.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: tool on April 19, 2015, 02:27:16 PM
^ I agree with you on the Genesis, but only Gen2 and Gen3. Gen1 looks too busy.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: pc_kwajalein on April 19, 2015, 03:29:37 PM
^ I agree with you on the Genesis, but only Gen2 and Gen3. Gen1 looks too busy.

Genny1 does appear a tad crowded, but of the three initial 16-bit machines, I think it's the best-looking of the lot. Genny2 was a nice makeover, and the charmingly compact Genny3 was brilliant. The greatness that is the Sega CDX not only beats the other Sega CD variants IMO, but I rate it higher than a number of other gaming machines.   
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 19, 2015, 11:50:26 PM

^ I agree with you on the Genesis, but only Gen2 and Gen3. Gen1 looks too busy.

Genny1 does appear a tad crowded, but of the three initial 16-bit machines, I think it's the best-looking of the lot. Genny2 was a nice makeover, and the charmingly compact Genny3 was brilliant. The greatness that is the Sega CDX not only beats the other Sega CD variants IMO, but I rate it higher than a number of other gaming machines.   

Genesis 1 is an ugly wart. It looks like a kid's toy, but an ugly toy. I feel it is one of the goofiest-looking designs, ever—I'll give it that  (the SuperGrafx is goofy, too).  Of course, consoles can be bland and boring...so being "goofy" certainly isn't the worst thing. :)

I agree that the other consoles (and variations) were pretty dull, so little design touches can make all the difference.

SNES was saved by prominent power/eject. SMS looks like a LazerTag accessory (a shield, or a auxiliary battery pack).

Etc.

Etc.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: CPTBadAss on April 20, 2015, 02:09:44 AM
Today I learned the is a Palgrafx and a Korean variant. I'm really digging that Korean one. Pal? Eh. Like others have said, the logo kills it for me. So bland.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: pc_kwajalein on April 20, 2015, 08:20:26 AM
Genesis 1 is an ugly wart. It looks like a kid's toy, but an ugly toy. I feel it is one of the goofiest-looking designs, ever—I'll give it that  (the SuperGrafx is goofy, too).

Up to the 16bit generation, consoles weren't hitting on much in the looks department (save the remodeled NES). The Genny1 was pretty damn sweet upon arrival.

To each their own.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: esteban on April 20, 2015, 09:17:02 AM

Genesis 1 is an ugly wart. It looks like a kid's toy, but an ugly toy. I feel it is one of the goofiest-looking designs, ever—I'll give it that  (the SuperGrafx is goofy, too).

Up to the 16bit generation, consoles weren't hitting on much in the looks department (save the remodeled NES). The Genny1 was pretty damn sweet upon arrival.

To each their own.

Sweet? Hahaahhahahahahahahaha. :)

It looks like a lunar base for Legions of Power.

Especially with a cartridge sticking out of the top.

:)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Black Tiger on April 20, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
Genesis 1 is an ugly wart. It looks like a kid's toy, but an ugly toy. I feel it is one of the goofiest-looking designs, ever—I'll give it that  (the SuperGrafx is goofy, too).

Up to the 16bit generation, consoles weren't hitting on much in the looks department (save the remodeled NES). The Genny1 was pretty damn sweet upon arrival.

To each their own.

The original Sega Mark III is one of the best looking consoles to date. The 2600 Jr would look stylish if it was released today. Then there's stuff like the Famicom Twin units. The AV Famicom/NES Top Loader in comparison is a boring bump along the road and it didn't even come out until the emerging 32-bit generation.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: toymachine78 on April 20, 2015, 10:20:45 AM
It looks like a generic ripoff of the TG-16. I do not approve.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: toymachine78 on April 20, 2015, 10:41:58 AM
Genesis 1 is an ugly wart. It looks like a kid's toy, but an ugly toy. I feel it is one of the goofiest-looking designs, ever—I'll give it that  (the SuperGrafx is goofy, too).

Up to the 16bit generation, consoles weren't hitting on much in the looks department (save the remodeled NES). The Genny1 was pretty damn sweet upon arrival.

To each their own.

The original Sega Mark III is one of the best looking consoles to date. The 2600 Jr would look stylish if it was released today. Then there's stuff like the Famicom Twin units. The AV Famicom/NES Top Loader in comparison is a boring bump along the road and it didn't even come out until the emerging 32-bit generation.
The mark 3 was fugly! It looked like a piece of 1970's medical equipment or a dot matrix printer or something lol
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Black Tiger on April 20, 2015, 02:17:11 PM
The mark 3 was fugly! It looked like a piece of 1970's medical equipment or a dot matrix printer or something lol


I guess that the PCE IFU combo must look like a fugly 70's washer/dryer set to you. :?


The Sega Mark III looks like it was taken straight out of the Nostromo:


(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/smarkiii2.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/smarkiii1.jpg)




The NES 101 looks like it a section from a preschool plastic playground:


(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/nes1012.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/nes1011.jpg)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: toymachine78 on April 20, 2015, 02:26:35 PM



I guess that the PCE IFU combo must look like a fugly 70's washer/dryer set to you. :?


Actually it kinda does! Lol I've always preferred the look of the core grafx 1&2 and the TG-16/CD.

The top loader NES does look ridiculous. Especially with a cart inserted. Best thing about it was the controller.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: imparanoic on April 20, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Mega_Drive_II_(PAL)_%2B_Sega_CD_II_(US_NTSC)_%2B_32X_(PAL).jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Mega_Drive_II_(PAL)_+_Sega_CD_II_(US_NTSC)_+_32X_(PAL).jpg)

megacd/sega cd + gen2/megadrive2 + 32x = Frankenstein system, very messy

but there again

supergrafx plus briefcase cd rom ain't a stunner either (strangely pc engine lt plus rau30 plus super cd is sexy in a goofy techy way)

(modified ) supergrafx seems a bit odd

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ADDa0gnBerQ/UZpGJ4kylJI/AAAAAAAADHc/y1Fr-J2La1o/s800/Retroblog%2520-%2520SuperGrafx%2520CDRom.jpg
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: pc_kwajalein on April 20, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
I partially agree with toymachine; the Mark III looks like it should be sitting on a cart next to an ICU bed, on which an elderly patient refuses to finish the scrambled eggs and toast from the cafeteria. Yet, I don't find it ugly, but rather interesting.

No love for the top loader? Hehe. Oh well, one man's trash...
   
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on April 20, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
I think the Korean Turbob looks the best!

(http://nfggames.com/games/vistar/unit1.jpg)


Dear god....

I came.


god damn, that is a sexy ass beast
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Gentlegamer on April 20, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
The NES 101 looks like it a section from a preschool plastic playground:


(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/nes1012.jpg)
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/nes1011.jpg)



Nintendo took the "don't set drinks on this system" design too far there.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: mickcris on April 20, 2015, 06:24:16 PM
I think i could still fit a beer on top of the flat spot above the controller ports. :)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: GohanX on April 21, 2015, 02:45:57 AM
The original AV Fami design looks nicer, but the US had to add the bubble because of the bigass NES cart size.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: DragonmasterDan on April 22, 2015, 11:00:42 AM
The original AV Fami design looks nicer, but the US had to add the bubble because of the bigass NES cart size.

The side extension port on the AV Famicom is a bit of an eyesore.
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: Keith Courage on April 22, 2015, 04:16:20 PM
The Pal grafx looks horrible. Especially when set up like this (http://i48.tinypic.com/jjy33t.jpg)
Title: Re: POLL Sexiness of PAL GRAFX
Post by: ddoubledee on May 05, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
It's ugly looking to me. Looks like a clone from Hong Kong... I do like the standard A/V out, but too bad it's 50hz.  :roll: But, I love white CD-ROM2s... So much easier to find a white one in good condition.

Color of the console-pieces aside... I hate the design of the TG-16+CD. It's really ugly, and fat. It's even shaped like an anchor! (Hehe!) TurboDuo is teh sex, asthetically. I still love the TG-16+CD, though... We grew up together. ;)