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What sad times we are living in when someone has to wear a nosestrip and chew gum to only sound like the grandpaad version of their former self?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNrIUagLaZQ
At least Eddie put on a good show.
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So, when did Van Halen become hair metal.
lol
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So, when did Van Halen become hair metal.
lol
Not strictly hair metal, but...an argument could be made...
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people age. they get old. f*cking sad assed world we live in.
Could be worse. He could've completely lost his shit like Axle.....
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Ha!!!
Seeing current pictures of 80s rock stars is f*cking hilarious and depressing at the same time.
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Oh dear god. That was horrible. I couldn't finish it. Dave needs to eat some cheeseburgers or something. And what's up with his nose? That look should have died with Michael Jackson.
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It gets better, they released a live album too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Dome_Live_in_Concert
Sammy Haggar isn't amused
http://loudwire.com/sammy-hagar-criticizes-van-halen-live-album/
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So, when did Van Halen become hair metal.
lol
Since always. Since they maybe invented it? f*ck if I know, but putting VH in some other category than one one which has Bullet Boys, Motley Crüe, Winger, or any of that other shit is just splitting great big pink hairs. The further back in time the hair metal era slips the less likely it looks like anyone on earth will have any use for it. This is one of the most completely spent and totally done-with genres of music I can think of. "If the music's too slow, you aren't drunk enough."
The most pathetic thing about this video, and there are many, is that somebody somewhere still thinks Runnin With the Devil is a song worth hearing in any setting. It's not. Even compared to the rest of VH's work it's super bad. It slow as hell and nothing happens except the sound of homoerotic yelping and squeaking from dipshit.
They still play that shit every day on the New Classic Power Rock stations stinking up the middle of the FM dial in every city in America. "Oh yeah! I hate this song!"
I can't fault the guy for the Breath-rite strip. If he needs it to do his job, he needs it. Even with hair so short (they clearly were going out of their way to make sure their hair wasn't too long, it's shorter than mine and I just got it cut a week ago) the fat, and wearing nothing notable to speak of to a gig that probably paid each member $10k per song, they still don't look half as stupid as they did during their prime. In short, they aren't pathetic NOW, they were pathetic THEN.
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I never really classified VH has hair metal. I just classified VH as VH, because Eddie always kind of played some pretty weird shit that never really fit into a category.
and yeah, Running With the Devil is a retarded song. It's cool to listen to once in awhile for the guitar. That's about it.
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I'd still rather sit through this atrocity than anything by Katy Perry or Taylor Swift. Metal is dead, and it's dead because any shmo can pick up a guitar & derp some power chords & palm mutes out of it, belt something out in a guttural tone, and call it f*cking metal.
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Iron Maiden doesn't classify themselves as power metal because they predated the evolution of genuine power metal by as much as a decade. However, that's basically what they are. Similarly VH came as much out of 1970s glam rock as they did metal, they predated hair metal, but it's a genre they eventually settled into if they didn't help invent it. Really it was the record labels that pushed what would have been an LA-only sub-genre of douche rock to the national stage. Kids from my generation spent their teen years actually thinking that that's what rock was. When grunge, hiphop, and acid house started to become more well known it only took maybe two years for kids to forget this garbage ever got made, it's death was swift, and the only people who defend it today are the sort of people who haven't purchased music or concert tickets in 20 years. It's so over, and I am so glad.
I did buy Europe's most recent album though, I enjoyed it. I'm not going to lie. It's still basically hair metal, but Joey Tempest never rode around on an giant inflatable microphone like he was a stripper.
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When I think Europe, I think Bluth.
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I mainly defend hair metal for the guitar. There are alot of really talented guitarists in those bands, with a lot of really intense shit going on.
Unfortunately it's all wrapped up in cheesy lyrics. The stuff is fun to blast when you want to act stupid, but, I have a hard time trying to comprehend people who take that shit seriously.
I saw it when I went and saw Poison/Ratt/White Lion live.
45-50 year old dudes dressed like they just fell out of a stoner van, basically acting like drunk retards.
I *hope* they were just living it up for the concert, as opposed to acting like that 24/7.
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I'd still rather sit through this atrocity than anything by Katy Perry or Taylor Swift. Metal is dead, and it's dead because any shmo can pick up a guitar & derp some power chords & palm mutes out of it, belt something out in a guttural tone, and call it f*cking metal.
What planet do you live on? Metal is alive and well, and has quite a resurgence over the past decade. Shadows Fall, Opeth, Lamb of God, Arch Enemy, Children of Bodom, Whitr Chapel, Carnifex... I could sit here all afternoon listing current metal bands that are doing well. Not to mention the old school bands that still pack houses. In the past two years I've seen Iron Maiden twice, Megadeth, Slayer, and Exodus. All shows were sold out, and all bands freaking sounded great.
And as Arkhan stated, these weren't any old schmos that picked up a guitar. Metal players are some of the most accomplished guitarists on the planet. That goes for the 80s and current guitarists. Randy Rhodes, Steve Vai.... And more recent Alexi Laiho.
This has got to be the most bullshit uninformed post I've read in any thread.
Mark Morton & Willie Adler: https://youtu.be/KzBPOXxikH0
Alexi Laiho (Children of Bodom) full version- Passage to the Reaper.avi: https://youtu.be/d7eLluMJxAM
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So, when did Van Halen become hair metal.
lol
Since always. Since they maybe invented it? f*ck if I know, but putting VH in some other category than one one which has Bullet Boys, Motley Crüe, Winger, or any of that other shit is just splitting great big pink hairs. The further back in time the hair metal era slips the less likely it looks like anyone on earth will have any use for it. This is one of the most completely spent and totally done-with genres of music I can think of. "If the music's too slow, you aren't drunk enough."
The most pathetic thing about this video, and there are many, is that somebody somewhere still thinks Runnin With the Devil is a song worth hearing in any setting. It's not. Even compared to the rest of VH's work it's super bad. It slow as hell and nothing happens except the sound of homoerotic yelping and squeaking from dipshit.
They still play that shit every day on the New Classic Power Rock stations stinking up the middle of the FM dial in every city in America. "Oh yeah! I hate this song!"
I can't fault the guy for the Breath-rite strip. If he needs it to do his job, he needs it. Even with hair so short (they clearly were going out of their way to make sure their hair wasn't too long, it's shorter than mine and I just got it cut a week ago) the fat, and wearing nothing notable to speak of to a gig that probably paid each member $10k per song, they still don't look half as stupid as they did during their prime. In short, they aren't pathetic NOW, they were pathetic THEN.
Sure they look ridiculous now in retrospect, but then that was pretty normal. Hell the 80's was ridiculous period. They looked a lot more normal than KISS, David Bowie, Elvis, or Jimmy Paige in his Elvis like jump suits.
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
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FYI: It's not a nose-strip. It's a band-aid. The band-aid is there because he cut his nose on the microphone earlier in the show. No joke.
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
Agreed. Just because metal is "alive & well" and has had a "resurgence" recently doesn't mean it still holds any relevance to anyone but its fans & casual listeners looking for something "alternative". Shoegaze has had a "resurgence" in the past decade, too.
If I really wanna rock out, I just put on The Mars Volta.
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
yeah it's all mostly background noise sweep arpeggio bullshit with no actual interesting thing going on.
The most interesting thing to happen in metal recently has been Babymetal.
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
Agreed. Just because metal is "alive & well" and has had a "resurgence" recently doesn't mean it still holds any relevance to anyone but its fans & casual listeners looking for something "alternative". Shoegaze has had a "resurgence" in the past decade, too.
If I really wanna rock out, I just put on The Mars Volta.
That is so subjective. lol All music is only relative to its fans!
Anyone who wants to celebrate the death of metal, and your in the South East, feel free to join me at Carolina Rebellion. I'll be there both days [emoji38]
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And as Arkhan stated, these weren't any old schmos that picked up a guitar. Metal players are some of the most accomplished guitarists on the planet. That goes for the 80s and current guitarists. Randy Rhodes, Steve Vai.... And more recent Alexi Laiho.
This has got to be the most bullshit uninformed post I've read in any thread.
Randy Rhoads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwBbPIMhTY&list=PL2WOUQPE0WECxrb2O-dX8Pryn4Y5c8gTI
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You know, you're right, but my point was that it doesn't appeal to as broad an audience as it used to.
To quote one of your earlier posts, "to each their own."
And for the record, I can dig on stuff like og Van Halen, Iron Maiden, and the like, because they wrote some really good melodies...but I dunno, I guess I'm just not angry enough to listen to the new stuff?
Although I will say, Children of Bodom did an AWESOME cover of Rebel Yell.
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
yeah it's all mostly background noise sweep arpeggio bullshit with no actual interesting thing going on.
The most interesting thing to happen in metal recently has been Babymetal.
It's called neo classical. Besides what guitarist blows your skirt up?
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Well what guitarist blows your skirt up?
Toshinori Hiramatsu
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
yeah it's all mostly background noise sweep arpeggio bullshit with no actual interesting thing going on.
The most interesting thing to happen in metal recently has been Babymetal.
It's called neo classical. Besides what guitarist blows your skirt up?
It's called mimicking Becker/Friedman, and doing it poorly, with no general flare/defining characteristics.
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Well what guitarist blows your skirt up?
Toshinori Hiramatsu
That's pretty good stuff. Reminds me of DragonForce. It gets the Toymachine seal of approval. [emoji4]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkXQ2zKjm0
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Maybe they're technically good at guitar, but no new metal has done anything for me. And the roaring/growling shit is just too cheesy to take serious. I hear Lamb of God and I roll my eyes and laugh. I listened to Set to Fail and Laid to Rest just to make sure I wasn't out of the loop, and nope, still sucks.
yeah it's all mostly background noise sweep arpeggio bullshit with no actual interesting thing going on.
The most interesting thing to happen in metal recently has been Babymetal.
It's called neo classical. Besides what guitarist blows your skirt up?
It's called mimicking Becker/Friedman, and doing it poorly, with no general flare/defining characteristics.
It was just a guitar clinic. You would prob find his actual work more appealing.
I assume you mean Marty Friedman. He's good. My favorite Megadeth guitarist by far. You strike me as a old school Thrash kind of guy.
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It was just a guitar clinic. You would prob find his actual work more appealing.
Who/what the f*ck are you talking about.
I assume you mean Marty Friedman. He's good. My favorite Megadeth guitarist by far. You strike me as a old school Thrash kind of guy.
What other Friedman is there. He's more than good. He's a true guitarist. He's not just doing some derivative bullshit. He pioneered a thing, and continued to do his own thing, and still does now.
I listen to a lot of different kinds of guitar music. I will happily take oldschool thrash over the neoclassical crap.
The Becker/Friedman combination is something that will likely never be revisited, because of Becker's current condition.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkXQ2zKjm0
This was good until the guy started singing. For some reason that brought images from Top Gun to mind Lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_U-w0NpIYM
Let's all Cacophony together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkXQ2zKjm0
This was good until the guy started singing. For some reason that brought images from Top Gun to mind Lol.
Nobody actually pays attention to the singer in Cacophony.
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Nearly all pop music has stupid lyrics. The same is true for indie and unknown bands, as well.
I am sorry, but I still like a lot of the "hair metal" that has been so trendy to make fun of since Nirvana's Teen Spirit became a Top 40 hit.
I like hair metal more NOW than I did back in the 80's. In the 80's, I was more transfixed by other genres...
Then again, I'm talking about QUEENSRYCHE as well as other bands.
I'm not an ardent fan of hair metal, but there are a lot of totally fun/great songs in the genre. I feel bad for anyone who doesn't want to embrace the silliness of it all.
I love that falsetto + guitar
You guys are trying too hard. Go complain on the Pitchfork forums.
:)
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It was just a guitar clinic. You would prob find his actual work more appealing.
Who/what the f*ck are you talking about.
I assume you mean Marty Friedman. He's good. My favorite Megadeth guitarist by far. You strike me as a old school Thrash kind of guy.
What other Friedman is there. He's more than good. He's a true guitarist. He's not just doing some derivative bullshit. He pioneered a thing, and continued to do his own thing, and still does now.
I listen to a lot of different kinds of guitar music. I will happily take oldschool thrash over the neoclassical crap.
The Becker/Friedman combination is something that will likely never be revisited, because of Becker's current condition.
You commented that it was just appregio sweeps.... Yeah it was just a guitar clinic/lesson.
Anyhoo... There are tons of phenomenal metal guitarists. I love thrash too. Love Alex Skolnicks work. I'll get to see him next month.
To be honest I love any music with loud guitars. All genre of metal and punk.
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You commented that it was just appregio sweeps.... Yeah it was just a guitar clinic/lesson
I think you completely misunderstood. I was never talking about a guitar clinic or lesson.
I was talking about how all this modern neo-classical metal is mostly just derivative sweep arpeggio bullshit that ends up sounding like background noise because it's just a competition to see who can play the most technically awesome bewlewleroweoweoweoooop arpeggio.
It's uninteresting, overdone crap. It's just a gimmick that seems super impressive and awesome, and when overused, completely ruins entire songs. It's supposed to be one part of an arsenal, but ends up becoming the only thing in use.
It really needs to stop.
EDIT: There's a reason people like Marty Friedman have been a bit vocal about similar topics, and even have new instructional videos highlighting it.. There aren't enough people straying from the OMFG ARPEGGIOS. GO FAST. path these days in metal.
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Then again, I'm talking about QUEENSRYCHE as well as other bands.
One of the best shows I ever saw was Queensryche performing the entire Operation: Mindcrime album as a rock opera.
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You commented that it was just appregio sweeps.... Yeah it was just a guitar clinic/lesson
I think you completely misunderstood. I was never talking about a guitar clinic or lesson.
I was talking about how all this modern neo-classical metal is mostly just derivative sweep arpeggio bullshit that ends up sounding like background noise because it's just a competition to see who can play the most technically awesome bewlewleroweoweoweoooop arpeggio.
It's uninteresting, overdone crap. It's just a gimmick that seems super impressive and awesome, and when overused, completely ruins entire songs. It's supposed to be one part of an arsenal, but ends up becoming the only thing in use.
It really needs to stop.
EDIT: There's a reason people like Marty Friedman have been a bit vocal about similar topics, and even have new instructional videos highlighting it.. There aren't enough people straying from the OMFG ARPEGGIOS. GO FAST. path these days in metal.
Oh. I thought you were referring to the Laiho clinic I linked to. Alexi used to play in a more classical style. Not anymore though.
I dont hear it much in the newer stuff I listen to. When I think of that style I think of old shit like Malmsteen. I guess its more common in power and progressive metal. I don't listen to much of that though.
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I will be very happy when the sweep arpeggio bullshit fad dies down completely. Even in the genre where it's supposed to be a thing, they've basically overdone it.
It's the equivalent of only doing raking across a violin in a classical piece. Its neat at first, but man, if you just sit there and do it constantly, it gets old.
lol, or Zakk Wylde and his overuse of elephant-sounding pinch harmonics.
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FYI: It's not a nose-strip. It's a band-aid. The band-aid is there because he cut his nose on the microphone earlier in the show. No joke.
Lol didn't catch that the first time. When I think of Hair Metal gone wrong I often think of these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtfdcepWlQM
Its so cheesy even Beavis and Butthead made fun of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Py8hHFrYU
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Firehouse and Warrant are who make me cringe.
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Which Warrant? The German one is good.
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I agree that metal is alive and well. Just go to a Maiden show and see the enthusiasm from them and the fans. Many of old timers are doing some of thier best work these days, Helloween, Stratovarious, Blind Guardian, better than ever. I don't really follow newer acts myself, but I see that prog metal in particular is exploding with new music.
What's died off is the useless garbage like Slaughter or Warrent. With no music industry left to f*ck shit up the real shit emerges.
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Which Warrant? The German one is good.
Sorry... The gay-matching-white-leather-suit-american one lol
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Which Warrant? The German one is good.
Sorry... The gay-matching-white-leather-suit-american one lol
Tottaly forgot about them, horrid.
I agree that metal is alive and well. Just go to a Maiden show and see the enthusiasm from them and the fans. Many of old timers are doing some of thier best work these days, Helloween, Stratovarious, Blind Guardian, better than ever. I don't really follow newer acts myself, but I see that prog metal in particular is exploding with new music.
What's died off is the useless garbage like Slaughter or Warrent. With no music industry left to f*ck shit up the real shit emerges.
I didn't even know Helloween was still around, about the only song I remember from them is the self titled one lol
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Two hair metal bands I still love are Cinderella and W.A.S.P. I love Tom Keifer and Blackie Lawless's voices
Edit: add great white to that too. Always liked the bluesy vibe to their music.
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I agree that metal is alive and well. Just go to a Maiden show and see the enthusiasm from them and the fans.
UP THE IRONS!
Best shows I've ever been to were Iron Maiden. It's been a while, though, the last show I saw was the Somewhere Back in Time tour in 2008.
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Two hair metal bands I still love are Cinderella and W.A.S.P. I love Tom Keifer and Blackie Lawless's voices
Edit: add great white to that too. Always liked the bluesy vibe to their music.
Yup and yup (Cinderella and WASP and STRYPER)
You can't love WASP without STRYPER. :)
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Two hair metal bands I still love are Cinderella and W.A.S.P. I love Tom Keifer and Blackie Lawless's voices
Edit: add great white to that too. Always liked the bluesy vibe to their music.
Yup and yup (Cinderella and WASP and STRYPER)
You can't love WASP without STRYPER. :)
I don't know about that este.... Is that kinda like yin and yang?
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Two hair metal bands I still love are Cinderella and W.A.S.P. I love Tom Keifer and Blackie Lawless's voices
Edit: add great white to that too. Always liked the bluesy vibe to their music.
Yup and yup (Cinderella and WASP and STRYPER)
You can't love WASP without STRYPER. :)
I don't know about that este.... Is that kinda like yin and yang?
EXACTLY. I can't help but love the Christian angle as a counterweight to the debauchery.
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The most interesting thing to happen in metal recently has been Babymetal.
@#&$ yeah, BABYMETAL! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Babymetal gets alot of hilarious flack from "hardcore" metal fans. It's pretty pathetic to watch.
Then you have members of Carcass, Anthrax, Marty Friedman, and others who defend them and go "they're having fun who f*ckin' cares." So, *actual* metal musicians are on board, but metal fans still go NO THEYRE STUPID, KILL THEM.
I enjoy Black Metal fans ripping on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBdAY8eA9w
They have stuff like this, but make fun of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqaTXqCN-Q
and go so far as to talk about killing the girls in Babymetal. I mean, way to be retarded?
They're just upset that 16 year old girls can sing coherently instead of just gargling rice krispies into a microphone, I guess.
edit: Also, I mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK3NMZAUKGw
This song is pretty awesome.
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WTF is this baby metal u speak of? Never heard of it.
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gargling rice krispies into a microphone
Add in hocking loogies, and you have the perfect description.
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That looks like weeb-waifu metal.
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How could anyone dislike babymetal ?!?
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How could anyone dislike babymetal ?!?
I was amused for a few songs, but there is no way I am going to spend time listening to Babymetal.
Once the novelty of the concept wears off...you're not left with much.
Perhaps in the future*, I will make the time.
Given a choice, there are other manufactured/corporate-created bands that I would rather spend my time with.
It's all about "suspension of disbelief"...I can't take Babymetal seriously right now (as a reference point, I take the theme songs from old tv shows and commercial jingles more seriously than Babymetal). For me, it is a function of time. Once fads fade, and the promoters have long been paid, and nobody remembers Babymetal, then I don't mind evaluating them and appreciating them (if I choose) on their "own" merits.
This is the same pattern I've used for a lot of pop music. I need some distance from it. I'm in no rush to embrace it now, (*)but if I listen to it in a few years and I like it, well, damn, that's great.
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Babymetal gets alot of hilarious flack from "hardcore" metal fans. It's pretty pathetic to watch.
Then you have members of Carcass, Anthrax, Marty Friedman, and others who defend them and go "they're having fun who f*ckin' cares." So, *actual* metal musicians are on board, but metal fans still go NO THEYRE STUPID, KILL THEM.
I enjoy Black Metal fans ripping on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBdAY8eA9w
They have stuff like this, but make fun of this:
and go so far as to talk about killing the girls in Babymetal. I mean, way to be retarded?
They're just upset that 16 year old girls can sing coherently instead of just gargling rice krispies
This song is pretty awesome.
Black Metal is freaking rediculous, but I love it. A lot of those guys take the shit dead serious too. Especially the original scene in Bergen Norway. Those guys were crazy as hell... You had bands burning down churches, committing murder, committing suicide.... Hell Mayhem took a picture of their bandmate that blew his head off with a shotgun, and made it their album cover!
I have no doubt that some of those guys would murder babymetal if given the chance lol.
Just look at this shit! (WARNING Graphic footage)
Gorgoroth - Black Mass Krakow (FULL DVD): https://youtu.be/lty4o-LktNA
BTW... Those are real lambs heads, and the drummer is dead now by suicide. They actually were arrested on Blasphemy charges after this show, and banned from the country lol
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Babymetal gets alot of hilarious flack from "hardcore" metal fans. It's pretty pathetic to watch.
Then you have members of Carcass, Anthrax, Marty Friedman, and others who defend them and go "they're having fun who f*ckin' cares." So, *actual* metal musicians are on board, but metal fans still go NO THEYRE STUPID, KILL THEM.
I enjoy Black Metal fans ripping on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBdAY8eA9w
They have stuff like this, but make fun of this:
and go so far as to talk about killing the girls in Babymetal. I mean, way to be retarded?
They're just upset that 16 year old girls can sing coherently instead of just gargling rice krispies
This song is pretty awesome.
Black Metal is freaking rediculous, but I love it. A lot of those guys take the shit dead serious too. Especially the original scene in Bergen Norway. Those guys were crazy as hell... You had bands burning down churches, committing murder, committing suicide.... Hell Mayhem took a picture of their bandmate that blew his head off with a shotgun, and made it their album cover!
I have no doubt that some of those guys would murder babymetal if given the chance lol.
Just look at this shit! (WARNING Graphic footage)
Gorgoroth - Black Mass Krakow (FULL DVD): https://youtu.be/lty4o-LktNA
BTW... Those are real lambs heads, and the drummer is dead now by suicide. They actually were arrested on Blasphemy charges after this show, and banned from the country lol
In other words, real devil music lol. Then you got black fantasy metal like Rivendell. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWaWoFtwEtw
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Yeah, the nonsense surrounding black metal's start is really retarded, honestly.
I saw Babymetal live in NYC, and will see them again in May. They're a fun show. They also had a song about putting down your goddamn phone, and people sat there and filmed it with their phones.
It was hilarious.
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You kids and your new fanged music. I'm just sitting here waiting for the new Faith No More album and Tool album to finally (maybe, but probably not) be released this year.
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WTF is this baby metal u speak of? Never heard of it.
Some of the weirdest shit I have ever seen or heard. Even stranger than Christopher Lee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
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The division in the metal world is pretty hilarious, but as someone who has followed underground dance music for the past 25 years I can say that that scene does basically the same thing.
Anything popular enough to headline a festival is crap.
Anyone not popular enough to headline a festival is crap.
Genres that sound too professional are sold out big budget crap for drunk frat boys.
Genres made entirely on 30year old gear are unprofessional and amateurish and are for hardcore users of any drugs that aren't booze.
OGs love to complain about how such and such DJs are naff and too reliant on new technology, despite them having probably never once actually rocked a crowd, and certainly not in years.
New DJs like laugh at old guys because they actually played tracks off discs that could only be played from beginning to end with no quick cueing functions.
Most of the people complaining about various genres of metal have one key weakness: they entertain nobody. The guys who are doing it on stage every day for weeks in a row, the guys that quit their day job, despite the hardship, so they could devote three months of their life to their album, the guys who actually entertain people in person with shit they created, those guys, they are the ones doing it right, no matter what the stuff sounds like. That applies to everything. You don't hear Helloween shitting on that Midwestern American, Cookie Monster vocaled noise with Pro Tools quantized high speed chuggy guitar NüMetal, heal wrestler opening theme Monster Energy Drink anthem, and guys like them are the ones thay have every right to. Its the frustrated Facebook otaku who's mad that this world isn't the place where his favorite band can thrive.
I hate Cookie Monster metal, the stuff where the guitars just chug and the volcalist is totally impossible to understand. It's very very same-y, and I hate evil, so it's not for me. That stuff is changing all metal though. Many of the aspects of that sound work their way even into the world of metal bands that can sing, read music, stay out of jail, etc. Its all God's play and we're just actors in it.
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The division in the metal world is pretty hilarious, but as someone who has followed underground dance music for the past 25 years I can say that that scene does basically the same thing.
Anything popular enough to headline a festival is crap.
Anyone not popular enough to headline a festival is crap.
Genres that sound too professional are sold out big budget crap for drunk frat boys.
Genres made entirely on 30year old gear are unprofessional and amateurish and are for hardcore users of any drugs that aren't booze.
OGs love to complain about how such and such DJs are naff and too reliant on new technology, despite them having probably never once actually rocked a crowd, and certainly not in years.
New DJs like laugh at old guys because they actually played tracks off discs that could only be played from beginning to end with no quick cueing functions.
Most of the people complaining about various genres of metal have one key weakness: they entertain nobody. The guys who are doing it on stage every day for weeks in a row, the guys that quit their day job, despite the hardship, so they could devote three months of their life to their album, the guys who actually entertain people in person with shit they created, those guys, they are the ones doing it right, no matter what the stuff sounds like. That applies to everything. You don't hear Helloween shitting on that Midwestern American, Cookie Monster vocaled noise with Pro Tools quantized high speed chuggy guitar NüMetal, heal wrestler opening theme Monster Energy Drink anthem, and guys like them are the ones thay have every right too. Its the frustrated Facebook otaku who's mad that the this world isn't the place where his favorite band can thrive.
I hate Cookie Monster metal, the stuff where the guitars just chug and the volcalist is totally impossible to understand. It's very very same-y, and I hate evil, so it's not for me. That stuff is changing all metal though. Many of the aspects of that sound work their way even into the world of metal bands that can sing, read music, stay out of jail, etc. Its all God's play and we're just actors in it.
Hahaha. Yes, the same basic dynamic occurs in all genres of music.
As I said, I take the songs from 80's cartoons more seriously than most pop music now. But, in a few years, I'll finally acknowledge that some gorgeous music was created.
I don't mind being late to the party.
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The other thing I forgot to point out that relates dance music to metal: the public at large is almost totally ignorant of the existence of either of these sub genres, at best it is a f*ck buddy relationship where they enjoy it for one or two nights of their lives. The intrinsic silliness of anyone quarreling over legitimacy in an art form so sidelined by the world at large is pretty damning of the entire idea.
We can all agree Nü Metal/BroStep is total crap, Maiden Rules, the 3DO is garbage, Dracula X is the best, etc, but only people in our little world care.
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The other thing I forgot to point out that relates dance music to metal: the public at large is almost totally ignorant of the existence of either of these sub genres, at best it is a f*ck buddy relationship where they enjoy it for one or two nights of their lives. The intrinsic silliness of anyone quarreling over legitimacy in an art form so sidelined by the world at large is pretty damning of the entire idea.
We can all agree Nü Metal/BroStep is total crap, Maiden Rules, the 3DO is garbage, Dracula X is the best, etc, but only people in our little world care.
Maiden and Bloodgood (first two albums) rule. That we can agree on.
Otherwise, those are fighting words!
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I like Tool...
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I like Tool...
Well now we know your alt
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I like Tool...
Well now we know your alt
Yes, I made an alt, and revived a 3-year-old thread all so I could "play junior sheriff"
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Have you guys played Brütal Legend yet?
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This band caught me off guard, and I really enjoyed their concert. Check it out, if you're jamming metal tunes and want to switch it up :D
"Arkona"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fuuDc2hH0
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what always cracks me up about metal, especially in Babymetal's case, is how you have these internet retards complaining/saying terrible shit, while you have the actual metal musicians they worship sitting and praising Babymetal.
and these complainers are literally too stupid to realize how dumb they look.
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Ok, I had no idea what baby metal even was/is.
After some googling and a couple youtube vids...
I can see how this can be catchy with some of the songs but most seem to have metal sections and then more of a pop song style section. I enjoy most metal, I could prolly enjoy some of this baby metal stuff.
But I think for the time being I will enjoy the relaxed sounds of Scar Symmetry, Primal Fear, CoB etc.
Interesting story.... When I was younger I used to have the cd-rom interface memorized on the Duo so I could play my music cd's in the console while I had headphones on going to bed. I mostly listened to ride the lightning, painkiller or white zombie devil music volume 1 while falling asleep with the volume level maxed.
Now I can barely fall asleep unless I have some sort of music going on in the background.