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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: takashirose on July 29, 2006, 09:28:29 AM
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Hello Turbo fans! I was just wondering whether everyones' Turbo Duos and Turbo Grafx systems attain some usage blemishes like some scratches and scuff marks around the hu-card slot? In addition, I found some scuffs, that I never caused because I bought it new, which I believe can be caused by the manufacturer, an inch from the disc tray lock button. The two little scuffs are less than half a centimeter in length and could only be seen at an angle when the light is on it. If you look from the top, nothing is visible. When not in use, I cover my Turbo Duo with a towel. I let the system cool down first if it's warm or hot. The towel is there as an extra barrier.
In the hu card slot area there is one light scratch on both sides from hu-card insertion. Is this all normal? The Turbo Duo is such a beautifully designed system that I don't want it to have these marks that are attained from usage. By the way, all of my systems are covered by towels. My Turbo Duo is on a stand and I put a thin towel underneath the system, so that the bottom won't have any scratches from moving the system. What are your comments on conditions? Thanks you guys.
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It kinda bothers me that the hucards themselves all eventually get scratches on the underside. But, its from normal use. I'd rather play them and have them develop wear, than store them. I buy all my games to play!
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Me too. But I was also talking about the Hu-card slot. I was thinking about getting another Turbo Duo to store away so that I would have one in perfect condition in my closet that I would never use. This is all in the mind. Yes the Hu-cards are pretty.
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My thoughts are that you are an obsessive compulsive freak. Its a toy. Its made to be played with.
A person like you should be collecting Faberge eggs and Ferraris.
There is nothing you can do to prevent the amazingly insignifcant problems you are pointing out. Its called entropy.
"All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of Samurai"-Samurai Showdown 2.
Most of my friends consider me to be the most insane neat freak they know when it comes to games related stuff. After reading this though I feel like slapping YuGiOh stickers all over my PC Engines just to prevent falling further into a games-neatness related psychosis.
If I offend, sorry. You needed an intervention.
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You did not offend. It's just that I like to keep my stuff working for years to come. I remember coming over a friends house. He had a turboGrafx-16 hooked up with what I think was Legendary Axe. Regardless, the system had this tape around the middle of the system. The thing seemed to have a crack and needed tape. I remeber letting them borrow my Gradius III game for the Super NES. The stepped on the box. Luckily not the game. After that I don't lend games because I take better care of them than others do. I would never put stickers on my systems, especially since it was paid for. I don't need an intervention because I go outside.
Ferraris? That car needs to be driven or else the engine would break down.
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Hmm, sounds like you're a bit too "careful."
I've opened my DUO-R many times, sometimes to mod it, sometimes to just "look." Heck--I even dropped it on the floor when the case was off (I tripped on its power cord and it violently crashed onto the floor). Several tiny plastic pieces scattered all over the place. I never dust it and I've played many heavily scratched cd-rs on my system. Guess what? It's in perfect condition and it works great. :wink:
Ooh, and I mostly keep the controller on the floor. In the dust. And I sometimes accidentally drag it around, potentially scratching it. It's in perfect condition and it works great. :wink:
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It depends what "perfect" condition means to you. It's like saying, "My wife is in "perfect" health", despite beating her up every day.
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My thoughts are that you are an obsessive compulsive freak. Its a toy. Its made to be played with.
A person like you should be collecting Faberge eggs and Ferraris.
There is nothing you can do to prevent the amazingly insignifcant problems you are pointing out. Its called entropy.
"All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of Samurai"-Samurai Showdown 2.
Most of my friends consider me to be the most insane neat freak they know when it comes to games related stuff. After reading this though I feel like slapping YuGiOh stickers all over my PC Engines just to prevent falling further into a games-neatness related psychosis.
If I offend, sorry. You needed an intervention.
Agreed i won't go into detail in this thread.
I'm all ready starting to sigh a few times :wink:
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Or you could do what I do - stick the stuff you want to keep in a box somewhere, and use your XBox's excellent emulation capabilities thus keeping your original equipment in top shape and never worrying about having to replace/repair it.
OD
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You did not offend. It's just that I like to keep my stuff working for years to come.
I think you are way beyond that. A scratch that can only be seen in certain light from certain angles will never effect gameplay, or functionality in any way.
The stickers thing was a joke, but I guess you are probbaly beyond that point by now.
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Dudes, peace love and harmony!
I'd rather someone be like taka (a wee bit obssessive) than like a bunch of slobs I know (who get yogurt and greasy fingers over everything).
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After reading this though I feel like slapping YuGiOh stickers all over my PC Engines just to prevent falling further into a games-neatness related psychosis.
LMAO!!!
TurboSage
I totally agree with storing the console and emulating!! All Hail Emulation!
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I appreciate the "store hardware / software somewhere safe and play via emulation" sentiment, but emulation just doesn't cut it for me. For today's lecture, I'll focus on controllers.
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I much prefer to play on consoles with the pads commercially available for the system. Personally, this is part of the charm and fun of retrogaming. I'm supposed to be leaving the hotel now, but I'm a procrastinator, so I'll share some random thoughts with you.
We've discussed this before, so I'll try not to repeat myself, but here's a "rant lite" on why controllers are important, IMO:
The SMS pads are pretty lame, but they are part of the experience of playing SMS games, IMO. I can't remember if there were third party controllers sold here in the States, but if there were, I never got any of them. Same with the TG-16... I never got the 3rd party controllers (the few that were available) because they looked like crap and probably felt even worse. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
NES, SNES and Genesis had some nice 3rd party stuff.
Anyway, the point is that unless a console had *really* shoddy / awkward controllers (i.e. Atari 5200), I prefer to play with hardware that was available at the time the console was commercially available.
This probably puts me in a category of "hardware fetish", but seriously, I just don't get folks who want to use their PlayStation, Saturn or _____________ (insert your favorite) pads for retro gaming! Sorry! :)
I know some folks complain about the original NES controllers, but they are friggin' great, as far as I'm concerned. Even though they don't *appear* to be ergonomically designed, they are still comfortable after long sessions. Keep in mind that particularly demanding games (i.e. tough platformers!) will give you a blister on your thumb, regardless of the controller you use (that's what I always say, anyway). Or, with Atari 2600 and other systems that had joysticks, you'll get a sore spot between your thumb and forefinger (is there a medical term for this part of the anatomy? Isn't a "web of skin"? !!! :D )
The redesigned NES controller (+ some 3rd party stuff) will satisfy most people, though, so it doesn't matter if you hate the orginal NES controller :)
BOTTOM LINE: If I were to use emulation, I'd definitely be one of those folks who would modify a relevant controller to match the console I'm playing. But there are many more reaason I prefer consoles over emulation. I'll save that for another day :)
NOTE: I'm not anti-emulation. It's a nice option, but it's a runner-up.
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Emulation? Madness!
A (very) noisy Xbox with the worst controllers in existance? I think not!
I want to insert those hu-cards or CDs in that pretty Duo, and I want to hold that (somewhat crappy) PC Engine controller when I'm playing my PC Engine games. I would NEVER play it on another console or a computer, it isn't even an option!
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After reading this though I feel like slapping YuGiOh stickers all over my PC Engines just to prevent falling further into a games-neatness related psychosis.
LMAO!!!
TurboSage
I totally agree with storing the console and emulating!! All Hail Emulation!
That's nuts. Why even waste money on the things in the first place then? Why buy stuff and never use it?
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Emulation is fine, but I love the orignal controllers. The Duo controller is great. Very functional. Playing Turbo games on the Wii though will not be as bad as playing it on the PC. The Wii controller when held horizontally, is similar in funtion to the Turbo controllers except without the Turbo fire switches. Actually, it will be like playing the original PC-engine controller before auto-fire was put on the core grafx controllers.
I just wanted to make my view extreme so that I could see your true thoughts. I am a gamer who has collectors' qualities. I prefer to play my games than to store them away unless I have a sealed copy of a game. For example my friends gave me Virtua Fighter 2 and Virtua Cop for my birthday in 1998, which I already hadso I left it sealed. In addition I have a sealed Bonk's Adventure because I already got the game with my Turbo Duo with the Gate of Thunder disc, I bought the game before realising that I ma getting a Turbo Duo.
And yes I hate greasy handed slobs that smother the grease everywhere. That stuff is hard to clean. There was this girl when I was 11, who played my super nes after eating stale pop-corn. The stench was there until I wiped the controller a lot with wet paper towels. It was a 3rd party controller. Keep the opinions coming because I cherish them. It's just that I always think that people will judge my systems like a collector will do, so I take extra care of them. But regardless of that notion, I take care of them because that is my nature. When I was a little kid, I took care of my toys. That's why I still have them to this day. In addition, I paid a lot of money for my Turbo Duo. That is why I take care of it. Keep the opinions coming fellow Turbo fans. :)
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Emulation? Madness!
A (very) noisy Xbox with the worst controllers in existance? I think not!
I want to insert those hu-cards or CDs in that pretty Duo, and I want to hold that (somewhat crappy) PC Engine controller when I'm playing my PC Engine games. I would NEVER play it on another console or a computer, it isn't even an option!
Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
Going to controllers - there are many plusses to emulation on PC and the XBox, one of them is the controller. With adapters and massive third party support, you can almost get any controller in any shape for your PC or XBox. Personally, I find the corners of a NES controller a bit jagged on my massive hands, and the PC Engine d-pad has a lot to be desired thanks to it's concave-ness. After about 20 minutes I'm left with a raw left thumb.
I'm also able to take my experience several steps further thanks to the many benefits emulation offers including: loading CD games off the hard drive (no loading times), high-res graphics thanks to a variety of different filters, savegames where you want, customizable buttom mappings, you name it. Some emulators even have the ability to rewind a game to correct a mistake or two.
Personally, I don't care about buttom mappings, savegames, or rewind functions, but they are there and a marked value-add over the original offerings.
Emulation is clearly superior in terms of what options you are given, but it all comes down to personal preference in the end. Firing up Bonk on the XBox just isn't quite the same as firing it up on the original hardware.
OD
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Being able to save anywhere is--to me--a disadvantage. Even having the option completely ruins the game to me. Why? Because I will use it. A LOT. And let's face it--that's cheating. You WILL use it again and again, and in the end--you'll suck at playing video games (when I first started using emulation, I did this a lot and when I started playing REAL video games again, I couldn't handle it). :lol:
I also like the loading times, I don't know why--but I just do. Oh, and filters? That completely ruins the pixeller's good work. Not an option to me. :)
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Seldane brings up some great points about emulation. I use the term 'Touring a game' when you use save states to beat the game. I've tour'd quite of few games, and it ruins the play value and such. I since then, started playing without save states - you just get so much more experience out of the game.
When it comes to the 'real' output of the PCE systems, it's pretty much crap. The gamma, saturation, and softness is lousy when compared to the SNES and even MD. I've heard there are some nice composite output mods out there to remedy this. I use to have a special profile stored on my TV just for SGX/Duo. Emulation offers a nice set of filters, increase in saturation, and gamma levels - though I do output the emu to the TV in 480p(component). I do like the fact that I can run the iso/wav instead of taking the game out of the box. I don't want to add anymore wear and tear to my systems and games. Although, I do occasionally plan the real system - just can't help it. The plus side of emu's are no flicker and sometimes no or less slowdown.
Hehe, I was never a fan of load times either :D
Also, 96.2% of my PCE collection is made up of cd's, so being able to play rom images is nice. I usually don't buy hucards.
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Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
Again, like I said, then why ever buy the stuff in the first place?
I think we all know that mechanical things break down. However I've been playing my US Turbo Duo since late 1992 quite regularly, and in all that time I'm seen much more degradation in my own body than I have of the Duo.
I just recently bought a busted Duo R and fixed it, so I figure I'm probably set for life as far as playing the systems go. The illusion of permanence obtained by hoarding wonderful game hardware and treating it as sculpture by never taking it out of a box...I'm afraid I'm not very well set up for that.
I think I just like games way more than you guys. Only if I hated games would I lock them away in closets to never be used.
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I think I just like games way more than you guys. Only if I hated games would I lock them away in closets to never be used.
I assume that was sarcasm :wink: , right? I love playing games, that's why I make copies of the CD's, so I can still play them without handling the original. When it comes to current generation games/systems though, I don't treat them this way(nor do I make copies).
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Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
Again, like I said, then why ever buy the stuff in the first place?
Why, to collect of course. I have purchased a lot of things for my house that I have never touched, and I look at only once in a while (drapes, pictures, on the wall, etc.). What's the point in buying those? :)
I realize the original intention of the PC Engine was for people to play it :) However, the piece of hardware I have in my basement is creeping up on 20 years old. I've had brand new consoles die on me after a couple years. As time goes on it becomes increasingly difficult to replace/repair any broken hardware.
I think we all know that mechanical things break down. However I've been playing my US Turbo Duo since late 1992 quite regularly, and in all that time I'm seen much more degradation in my own body than I have of the Duo.
I think your body is much more proned to degredation than a hunk of metal and plastic :) And you may still have a few years on the Duo yet. On the other hand, it could go up in smoke tomorrow. My point is you never know - like I said earlier I've had systems die not too long after purchase. I've had others (like my PC Engine) that's lasted almost 20 years. It's a definite risk, but it's entirely up to you.
I think I just like games way more than you guys. Only if I hated games would I lock them away in closets to never be used.
No I don't think that has anything to do with it :) Like I said in earlier posts, emulation is just more comfortable, more convenient, offers some potential performance boosts, virtually elliminate load times, and is ultimately cheaper.
With regards to the savegame feature, have some self restraint people :) It's not that hard NOT to use the feature. I rarely do.
OD
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When it comes to the 'real' output of the PCE systems, it's pretty much crap. The gamma, saturation, and softness is lousy when compared to the SNES and even MD. I've heard there are some nice composite output mods out there to remedy this. I use to have a special profile stored on my TV just for SGX/Duo. Emulation offers a nice set of filters, increase in saturation, and gamma levels - though I do output the emu to the TV in 480p(component).
I don't know about this as I've only seen the DUO's composite output a few times. The picture was very weak so I RGB modded the system right away. The DUO has a fantastic RGB output (but it'll require an amplifier).
Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
I never said this! I'm being misquoted! :lol:
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I never modded my Turbo Duo and the composite cables work just fine for me. Do they have an s-video cable? I don't have any problems playing Gate of Thunder using Composite. I actually like the graphics. Of course I have never seen a Turbo Duo with an RGB output.
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Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
I never said this! I'm being misquoted! :lol:[/quote]
No that's what I said :) You said:
I want to insert those hu-cards or CDs in that pretty Duo, and I want to hold that (somewhat crappy) PC Engine controller when I'm playing my PC Engine games. I would NEVER play it on another console or a computer, it isn't even an option!
To which that was my response - the more you use it the sooner it will die. I think we can all accept that as a generally true statement :)
OD
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"Oh, emulation! How much I love you. You bring so much joy to my gaming life." For some reason emulation is like having sex with a clone of your wife or girlfriend, while the real one is still a virgin. I just had to say it. How does that sound?
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"Oh, emulation! How much I love you. You bring so much joy to my gaming life." For some reason emulation is like having sex with a clone of your wife or girlfriend, while the real one is still a virgin. I just had to say it. How does that sound?
A little psychotic actually :)
OD
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One could also argue that emulation is like buying a awesome painting, and storing it away. Instead, you put a photocopy on the wall. Sure its almost the same, but never will be.
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One could also argue that emulation is like buying a awesome painting, and storing it away. Instead, you put a photocopy on the wall. Sure its almost the same, but never will be.
Haha, I think it's more like putting a "print" on your wall :) Unless you really feel emulation is like dingy black and white copies, so be it :)
OD
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I remember playing a R-Type on a free TurboGrafx emulator. The screen was small and there was no sound. I do not want to pay $15 on a software that imitates the real thing. It's kind of weird playing it on a pc game pad. All the emulated games feel as if they are PC games and not as interesting.
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I remember playing a R-Type on a free TurboGrafx emulator. The screen was small and there was no sound. I do not want to pay $15 on a software that imitates the real thing. It's kind of weird playing it on a pc game pad.
Umm, emulators don't "imitate" systems. You know those new NES clone systems? Guess what, they're emulators - same with the all in one genesis controller. How can you compare a primitive emu with no sound to MagicEngine or Mednafen(free btw the way)?
All the emulated games feel as if they are PC games and not as interesting.
Obiviously you've not had much experience with good working emulators or your PC/MAC is not up to speed. That kind of statement could have been said 6-7 years, but I assume there is some other underlying psychological reason for your dis-like of emu's. My friend who is a 16bit era fan and collector is the same way, though he's pretty much computer illiterate. BTW, I use a PS-one dual shock controller w/usb adapter for use with emu's - doesn't feel anything like a PC game to me 8)
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Umm, emulators don't "imitate" systems.
Yes, they do. That's exactly what they do. That's why they are called emulators.
Emulation has come pretty far with PCE though, obviously. I use emulation to try out HuCards titles to see if there are any unknown gems waiting for me out there.
Actually playing games on them for real is zero fun though most of the time. The Neo Geo emulators that run on Windows, and Xbox are pretty nice, and MAME is always fun. I almost never put any serious time into a game via emulation though.
My favorite system of all time is the SNES/SFC. I have every single SNES/SFC ROM, including hacks, fan translations, etc, plus a SNES pad USB adaptor, yet I almost never play games this way. Its just not fun for me.
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Emulators use code to accomplish the same function as the console hardware. So you could say emulators are imitations of the hardware, not the games (yes there is some programming stored in the hardware, but I think you know what I mean).
The game ROMs themselves are the EXACT same game you play on your real system - no immitation here. In fact, not only are they the same but they ARE the games. It's really up to you how you have your system configured to have a good/bad emulation experience. IF you do things right, including getting a USB turbopad and hooking your computer up to the TV, the only differences you will notice are caused by that particular emulator.
I'm curious why SignOfZelda doesn't find playing emulated HuCards any fun, but MAME is always fun? :)
OD
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Being able to save anywhere is--to me--a disadvantage. Even having the option completely ruins the game to me. Why? Because I will use it. A LOT. And let's face it--that's cheating. You WILL use it again and again, and in the end--you'll suck at playing video games (when I first started using emulation, I did this a lot and when I started playing REAL video games again, I couldn't handle it). :lol:
I also like the loading times, I don't know why--but I just do. Oh, and filters? That completely ruins the pixeller's good work. Not an option to me. :)
I never use filters except for scanlines on my MAME cabinet.
Although anywhere saving can affect a game in a negative way, I don't think that it'd make everyone using it suck at playing video games.
If someone plays the first few levels of Daimakaimura again and again, they won't develop skills as quickly/deep as trying for hours to pass the last level or two.
Consider this: the more you use your equipment the sooner they will die. I prefer to preserve my stuff.
Again, like I said, then why ever buy the stuff in the first place?
I think we all know that mechanical things break down. However I've been playing my US Turbo Duo since late 1992 quite regularly, and in all that time I'm seen much more degradation in my own body than I have of the Duo.
I just recently bought a busted Duo R and fixed it, so I figure I'm probably set for life as far as playing the systems go. The illusion of permanence obtained by hoarding wonderful game hardware and treating it as sculpture by never taking it out of a box...I'm afraid I'm not very well set up for that.
I think I just like games way more than you guys. Only if I hated games would I lock them away in closets to never be used.
I recently got the tototek flashcard and only use it for English translated roms and rom-only demos. I can't help the fact that I feel more comfortable digging out individual HuCards than selecting from a bunch of games on a list.
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Umm, emulators don't "imitate" systems.
Yes, they do. That's exactly what they do. That's why they are called emulators.
There is a difference - Final Fantasy V & VI for PSX ran on an imitator, not emulator, but I guess will just have to disagree about there meanings :wink:
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Final Fantasy V and VI for the PSX is a port, not emulation. Well you get what I mean. I never had a good PC engine emulator, but I use Nesticle for my nes roms. It increases the clarity if I increase the resolution, which makes the screen smaller. I use a logitech dula analogue with force feed back controller. It feels funny playing an NES game with such an advanced controller. In addition, the NES and any other d-pad is better than the logitech one. P prefer the originals though. I remeber I used to burn backup copies of my music cds, but eventually grew tired of burning them everytime I got a new one. In addition I noticed a very, very, slight decrease in sound quality if you listen through ear phones.
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Final Fantasy V and VI for the PSX is a port, not emulation
Not true, it's not a port. The rom(s) are there on the disc. They basically use a script interpretor/game simulator if you will. It's a PSX program running on top of the rom, decoding parts of the rom and converting them to PSX routines.
From Gemini:
Infact they are not emulated. It's more like some sort of simulation, using Snes opcodes recompiled as macros, scratchpad for storing register data and parts of ram to emulate WRAM, VRAM and SRAM segments. If you try to deal with their code, you'll find it's a complete mess, really difficult to understand due to those sh*tty simulation routines and repeated stack/memory accesses.
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Emulation is great for the chance to experience a game that you may never have the chance to play otherwise, but it's not the same. I know that there are near perfect emulators for nearly every old school system out there, but it's just not the same. You know, there's this feeling when you open the original case, inserting the original game, push the power button, hold the original system controller in your hand. The feeling of authenticity can't be emulated.
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Emulation is great for the chance to experience a game that you may never have the chance to play otherwise, but it's not the same. I know that there are near perfect emulators for nearly every old school system out there, but it's just not the same. You know, there's this feeling when you open the original case, inserting the original game, push the power button, hold the original system controller in your hand. The feeling of authenticity can't be emulated.
I will agree that you can't emulate authenticity or that particular experience. But I'm interested in the games, and you sure can emulate those :)
I guess for those of us who like emulation find the "authentic" experience a nuisnance (potentially) and enjoy the convenience of emulation. When I fire up a game I'm interested in making the process of starting said game as quick and easy as possible so I can dive right in. I'd rather not have to insert a cartdridge or CD everytime I want to play a different game. Doesn't mean we don't enjoy playing the same games :)
OD
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In theory I'd rather play games via emulation when it's on a system that doesn't have at least S-Video output (PCE/Turbo doesn't count since I got a modded Duo-R from D-Lite), or games that have major slowdown/flicker issues (does this happen in emulation too? I honestly don't know that much about it...).
In reality though, I've never played that many games via emulation. Was playing through Crystalis for the NES for a while years ago, but then I used a save state at a point right before a boss that I wasn't high enough in level to beat, so I gave up on it because I kept overwriting the same save state :(
But I might start back up again soon once I get a USB adapter for using PS controllers, I'm interested in playing certain Famicom games like Akumajo Densetsu (Castlevania III) that had the extra Konami sound chip not present in the NES version. And I'd rather not have to buy another system and the game and have to live with composite video and slowdown/flicker.
I'm gonna be all over the Wii though, if the Virtual Console downloads are perfect or near-perfect emulations and don't have any digital rights management BS that make you connect the system to the internet every time you want to play them or whatever.
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I own a Turbo Duo and a PCFX.
I have over 120 games for those systems.
I set asside my Duo in storage mainly because the sytem is dying, and I emulate mainly because of convenience. With going to school fulltime, raising 3 kids and being Married to the love of my life, I can only set aside a few hours a week to gaming, and its much more convenient to double click on my PC Engine Icon on my Desktop after completing a 4 hour COBOL(yuck!) program and plug away a few minutes on Keith Courage, than to try and set up my TurboDuo.
Personally yes, i do prefer the feel and style that playing the original Hardware that the games were intended to be played on, but I also think emulation is amazing and is a great alternative to those that wish to 'try it out' or are having hardware issues.
I am going to be picking up another DUO soon, at the very least by TurboFest2007(cheap plug). But this wil be MY THIRD TurboDuo, as the first Turbo I've owned both stopped reading disks, and the second is on its way, The CD spins but I get no sound.
Just thought I would shed some light on my comments from earlier~
about Storing Systems and all hail emulation or something like that....
TurboSage
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But doesn't the PSX Final Fantasy V and VI have brand new FMV sequences that the original Super Famicom obviously couldn't do. It might have similar code, but they difinitely had to change some since it's on a different system and controller. I prefer the original systems unless they are ports, which I don't mind.
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All the SNES -> PS1 ports are horrible! The loading times are RIDICULOUS!
In Chrono Trigger, for example the characters just stand there - doing nothing - when the battles start. It takes about five seconds of nothing before the battle actually starts.
But that's not surprising--the PS1 is the worst piece of hardware ever designed. It couldn't even handle 3D, and yet most games used it. Every PS1 3D game is a joke. :roll:
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All the SNES -> PS1 ports are horrible! The loading times are RIDICULOUS!
In Chrono Trigger, for example the characters just stand there - doing nothing - when the battles start. It takes about five seconds of nothing before the battle actually starts.
But that's not surprising--the PS1 is the worst piece of hardware ever designed. It couldn't even handle 3D, and yet most games used it. Every PS1 3D game is a joke. :roll:
Um...you're nuts.
The PS1 was bad at 3D, except when compared to every other system out there, and all home computers. This was 1994 after all.
I agree that the SNES ports suck, as does almost anything 2D on PS1, but the PS1 was the first system to offer 3D games that were actually playable in quantity. Until the PS, 3D pretty much meant unplayable garbage.
I think the PS2, and the PSP are much much more poorly designed.
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I actually love how the PSP looks like, especially in white, which is what I have. The only thing I don't like is that the top stains too quickly, which makes me have to wipe it with my glasses cleaner every time I finish playing the PSP.
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I actually love how the PSP looks like, especially in white, which is what I have. The only thing I don't like is that the top stains too quickly, which makes me have to wipe it with my glasses cleaner every time I finish playing the PSP.
By "stain", I assume you mean "fingerprint". My girlfriend has the white one too, and it visibaly attracts fingerprints much less than the black one.
However in the world outside of anal-retentive collector types that emulate to save wear and tear, complain about scratches that can only be seen with electron microscopes, etc, the PSP has way more problems. The battery life is almost as bad as a PCE GT, the game selection sucks, and the load times are horrific.
The one thing the PSP does well seems to be ports of 32-bit RPGs, which is an odd thing to specialize in...
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Yes the white PSP has less visble fingerprints and, from what I've heard, it has a better screen than the AMerican black releases. It's brighter. there are too many ports on the PSP though. People are now used it and will not buy original games with unknown characters.
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and, from what I've heard, it has a better screen than the AMerican black releases. It's brighter.
No, that's just the sort of thing people say. There would be no point in continuing to produce an inferior screen just for the US market. If the white PSP has a better screen, then I'm sure that all PSPs being produced now have the same screen.
I don't notice any difference. All PSPs have *awesome* screens.
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The one thing the PSP does well seems to be ports of 32-bit RPGs, which is an odd thing to specialize in...
Pretty much every PSP RPG has been a disaster because of their insanely bad ports. The loading times are horrible in these games.
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I have a US model and screen is pretty bright. Most poeple don't know that there are four different settings for brightness control when plugin into the AC adapter VS 3 when using the battery pack (you can't use the brightest setting).
The loading times are fine on the PSP for the games I have. The only one that has horrible loadings that I've personally seen is Ys VI.
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The loading times are fine on the PSP for the games I have. The only one that has horrible loadings that I've personally seen is Ys VI.
Well, part of it is just that fact that other handhelds all run on solid state media, and therefore have zero load times, so even a quick loading PSP games seems like an eternity to me. There is also the crap battery life which I know is dwindling away as I watch the load screen. What fun!
Some PSP games aren't too bad, but anything US developed is really bad, and Shotoku Battle is just *terrible*. Load time is twice as long as game play time in many cases do to the quick races in that game. This is a shame since its one of the better games on the system, and the graphics are loads better than other PSP racers.
What's really incredible is that people actually used to complain about load times on the PC Engine, Sega CD, etc. The Neo CD was considered unbearably loadarific. Now thanks Sony's systems' really really long load times (all of Sony's systems so far) people have gotten used to it.
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Someone should re-name this thread the PSP thread. :)
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It wasn't my intention for my thread. I just gave my oppinion on the PSP after someone else's comment on the PSP.