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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: BigusSchmuck on July 27, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
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In Brazil only....
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/brazil-is-a-video-game-alternate-universe-where-sega-beat-nintendo
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In Brazil only....
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/brazil-is-a-video-game-alternate-universe-where-sega-beat-nintendo
Everyone knows that a Brazillian games came out for the SMS in South America that didn't come out in Europe or the US. Games like Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat III and NATURALLY Virtual Fighter
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It is a shame the PCE didn't become the brazilian mainstay. imagine all the kickass games we'd have by this point...
NATURALLY like Virtual Fighter
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I'm a maserbater.
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It is a shame the PCE didn't become the brazilian mainstay. imagine all the kickass games we'd have by this point...
HueHueCards
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Brazil isn't the only region that Sega "beat" Nintendo in. In Europe, Sega only finally discontinued the SMS so that it wouldn't be competition for the Sega Saturn.
Here's one discussion about it:
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/166584-nes-vs-master-system-sales-rest-of-world/
Each year the revisionist Nintendo fanboys spam the internets in even greater numbers.
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In my basement, the SMS is still the most popular console.
Brazil.
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No home system in Europe was successful in reaching mass market status until PlayStation.
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In my basement, the SMS is still the most popular console.
Brazil.
The FEKA is leaking again.
SMS might have beat Nintendo in Europe and Brazil, but overall, especially in America but also in Japan, NES beat SMS by a pretty large margin. The NES sold more in Japan than the Master System sold worldwide.
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Yeah, the Sega consoles reigned here back at the day. Two reasons for that:
. they were HEAVILY promoted by the company that sold them, Tec Toy. Lots of memorable ads, TV programs, games translated to portuguese (Phantasy Star I-III, Shining in The Darkness etc.), toys and such.
. we only formally got the Nintendo consoles in 1993, not only SNES but also NES and GB. We had several non-licensed clones since 1989, both in 60 and 72 pins, one of them (the Phantom System, an amazing console that was shapped like an Atari 7800) being almost as famous as the Master System - lots of carts were sold as "Phantom System games". Lots of carts by different companies were released here or brought from China; because of it, great Famicom games that never came to NES (Super Mario 2j, Boku Dracula-Kun, Antartic Adventure, Karateka, Yie Ar Kung Fu etc.) were common in the country, as single carts or multicarts. But, overall, the Tec Toy consoles were better known among children and parents in the first years of the decade. Alex Kidd and Sonic were as popular as Mario here. The SNES was a stronger competitor for the Mega Drive, though, it sold a lot during all the 90's thanks also to the bootleg carts.
Saturn and Dreamcast were as not as sucessfull as their older brothers, though. They were VERY expensive when launched, and by the time the PSX was at the top thanks to its cheap bootleg/CD-R market.
It is a shame the PCE didn't become the brazilian mainstay. imagine all the kickass games we'd have by this point...
OBEYing was/is almost unknown around here. The first time I saw a HuCard I was already an adult, one day I discovered that a friend of mine had a (soundless) Turbo Express and a TG-16 from his childhood. The magazines barely talked about them, most like a curiosity ("A CONSOLE THAT CAN PLAY GAMES USING CDS!" and things like that) than real reviews and hints. Even today, among my collector friends, just a few have also have PC Engines/TG-16s, mostly the shmups fans. The collectors are more likely to look for SNES, MD, SMS, NES and Atari games.
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It is a shame the PCE didn't become the brazilian mainstay. imagine all the kickass games we'd have by this point...
I'm still hunting for the TGX units that were shipped here according to the interview with Johnny Turbo. No luck so far, which is not surprising at all... it wouldn't have a chance against a market where the Genesis, SNES, NES and Master System were competing simultaneously.
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Blazing Masers for life.
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Masern are dangerous! Get your vaccine today!
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I'm still hunting for the TGX units that were shipped here according to the interview with Johnny Turbo. No luck so far, which is not surprising at all... it wouldn't have a chance against a market where the Genesis, SNES, NES and Master System were competing simultaneously.
You mean those "100,000 to 200,000 consoles with the expansion ports disabled" from the Gamasutra interview? That's very weird, because there would be some mention of it on the magazines at the time - Videogame would publish notes about everything that was on the market, like the Cougar Boy and that Super Pro-System 16 (a clone of SNES by Chips do Brasil) that was not even released after all. Or even some advertising, I remember newspaper ads of imported units of Amiga CD32 - "exclusive on this store" and such - but never a single one about TG-16. It's a big number of units to go unnoticed, I think. It would be amazing if we found something about those consoles, maybe they are at a warehouse somewhere until today. But I think that maybe they were sold at some neighbor countries, like Argentina, Uruguai and Bolivia. We know for sure that Tec Toy released different versions of its products in those markets, maybe some great company at the time tried to "unload" it there for some profit. But let's hope we find something about those units someday :D
There's another story that I found interesting about TG-16 in Brazil: according to an ex-employee of Gradiente, half of the joint-venture that formed Playtronic (the 1993 official Nintendo licensee), they almost released the OBEY here back in the day. It was almost decided that Sharp would release NES and SNES in South America, but the president of Gradiente went to Japan to try to get the license from Nintendo to his company, which actually happened some time later. But while Gradiente waited for the japaneses' decision, they had some backup plans of releasing another game plataform if they couldn't release Nintendo consoles around here. Among several consoles that were considered (the Neo Geo AES included), they decided to go with the Turbografx-16, but the idea was soon disregarded because Nintendo closed the deal with them.
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I'm still hunting for the TGX units that were shipped here according to the interview with Johnny Turbo. No luck so far, which is not surprising at all... it wouldn't have a chance against a market where the Genesis, SNES, NES and Master System were competing simultaneously.
You mean those "100,000 to 200,000 consoles with the expansion ports disabled" from the Gamasutra interview? That's very weird, because there would be some mention of it on the magazines at the time - Videogame would publish notes about everything that was on the market, like the Cougar Boy and that Super Pro-System 16 (a clone of SNES by Chips do Brasil) that was not even released after all. Or even some advertising, I remember newspaper ads of imported units of Amiga CD32 - "exclusive on this store" and such - but never a single one about TG-16. It's a big number of units to go unnoticed, I think. It would be amazing if we found something about those consoles, maybe they are at a warehouse somewhere until today. But I think that maybe they were sold at some neighbor countries, like Argentina, Uruguai and Bolivia. We know for sure that Tec Toy released different versions of its products in those markets, maybe some great company at the time tried to "unload" it there for some profit. But let's hope we find something about those units someday :D
There's another story that I found interesting about TG-16 in Brazil: according to an ex-employee of Gradiente, half of the joint-venture that formed Playtronic (the 1993 official Nintendo licensee), they almost released the OBEY here back in the day. It was almost decided that Sharp would release NES and SNES in South America, but the president of Gradiente went to Japan to try to get the license from Nintendo to his company, which actually happened some time later. But while Gradiente waited for the japaneses' decision, they had some backup plans of releasing another game plataform if they couldn't release Nintendo consoles around here. Among several consoles that were considered (the Neo Geo AES included), they decided to go with the Turbografx-16, but the idea was soon disregarded because Nintendo closed the deal with them.m
Ok, that is fascinating info about TG-16 as "Plan B" if the Nintendo negotiations fell through. Crazy.
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I think the Master System is still on store shelves even now! But strangely with SEGA in the 3rd gen they were popular in Europe and Brazil but after they were popular in US then Japan then DC came and we know what happend :cry:. But was it true that the A7800 sold better than teh SMS?