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Title: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 28, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
Hey guys,

I've been doing research trying to get an idea of around when each of the early Genesis games was actually released.  This has included scouring Usenet posts, sales ads, and forum threads (including here!).  I've put together a spreadsheet with windows of time for each game, along with the claimed (but unsubstantiated) release date for each according to Wikipedia and GameFAQs.   Basically I am just trying to narrow down these windows as much as possible, which is the best we can really hope for since games didn't have hard street dates back then.  Some of the games I have down to a 2-week window, which is very good, but others can still be improved-upon quite a bit.

Basically what I am looking for is any information that anyone has that can help narrow these down.  Like your birthday is November 15th and you know for sure that you got games A & B that day, or whatever.  Vague memories are not really going to help, but something more concrete would be great. 

I am going to want to continue with later games, going into February 1990 and beyond, so if anyone wants to chime in on those then that would be great, too.

Those early and late limit dates are not really set in stone, either.  They are just based on what concrete information I could find.

Thanks!

Chris

(http://www.jibbajaba.com/images/Genesis Releases.jpg)
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 28, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
I had this posted over on Sega-16, but posted it here as well mainly to try and get Joe's attention, because I know that he has a lot of knowledge about the early days of the Genesis.

At this point, the real question marks for me are whether or not Revenge of Shinobi, Mystic Defender, and/or Zoom! made it out in December, or didn't come out until January of 1990, because I think that Truxton, Golden Axe, and Alex Kidd are firm January releases at this point.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 29, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?
Title: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: esteban on July 30, 2015, 12:18:15 AM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?

Joe is good at replying when you respond to a post of his, so I would go into the GameSack thread, reply to a post, but explain that you are really trying to confirm some of these titles (I would include link to this thread, but I would include the specific handful of 1989vs1990? titles—Revenge on top of Shonibi, Zuul!, etc.—over in GameSack thread...because what if he doesn't want to follow the link?)

Of that doesn't work, PM him and put "Stephen Baldwin" in the title.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: bob on July 30, 2015, 03:28:09 AM
I always thought Golden Axe was a launch title.  Just assumed it was.  (has a copyright date of 89 on the box, but that would jive with late January release I guess)
Also Buster Douglas Boxing came out "after" Feb 10, 1990.   :lol:
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: jeffhlewis on July 30, 2015, 03:44:48 AM
I got my Genesis as a birthday gift in 89 (early October). Golden axe was my second game but I swear that was a Xmas gift that year. Only had altered beast between October and December
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Necromancer on July 30, 2015, 03:54:22 AM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?

I wouldn't count on it.  A PM or email (assuming he has a public address for gamesack) is your best bet, especially if you bribe him with a couple packets of zigs for his colorado greens.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Black Tiger on July 30, 2015, 03:54:43 AM
Golden Axe may have been a launch window title, but I remember how it took a while to come out. During the very early Genesis days, it felt excruciatingly long waiting for new releases to trickle in. If you look at mags at the time, you'll also see it reviewed or talk of it coming out soon after. It likely came out in Japan by the Genesis launch day, so they could preview it before relesse.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: BigusSchmuck on July 30, 2015, 04:06:49 AM
I can't comment on launch titles, but when my childhood friend had got a Genesis for Christmas in 89 he had Altered Beast and Zoom! He didn't end up getting Golden Axe until the next month after we played the crap out of it in the arcade. I believe he got it from Toys R US in Portland Oregon as that was the place to get our games back in the day.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 30, 2015, 04:08:39 AM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?

I wouldn't count on it.  A PM or email (assuming he has a public address for gamesack) is your best bet, especially if you bribe him with a couple packets of zigs for his colorado greens.

I was only joking.

Do people still roll joints?
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: xelement5x on July 30, 2015, 04:44:21 AM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?

I wouldn't count on it.  A PM or email (assuming he has a public address for gamesack) is your best bet, especially if you bribe him with a couple packets of zigs for his colorado greens.

I was only joking.

Do people still roll joints?

My town is full of Hookah shops.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: ClodBuster on July 30, 2015, 04:57:16 AM
Just offer Joe a cheeseburger, he won't withstand the temptation.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: GreatBlueSwirlof99 on July 30, 2015, 08:38:50 AM
One question you mean games that were made in 1989 and released in '89 or games made for the arcades in pre-'89 and released in '89/90? Also do you want ports of NES or SMS games or Genesis only games?
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on July 30, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
One question you mean games that were made in 1989 and released in '89 or games made for the arcades in pre-'89 and released in '89/90? Also do you want ports of NES or SMS games or Genesis only games?

I am talking about when the Genesis games themselves were available in-store.  I am only interested in the Genesis release, but it can certainly be a game that was released for multiple systems.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: GreatBlueSwirlof99 on July 30, 2015, 09:52:50 PM
 Ok good I'll find my games from '89/90!
Title: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: esteban on July 30, 2015, 11:34:19 PM
Ok good I'll find my games from '89/90!

Comrade, it is about having evidence of the *actual* release dates being verified by *receipt* or *distinct memory* or ______.

For example, I know I played GOLDEN AXE and LAST BATTLE and THUNDERFORCE  II on my friend's Genesis before Xmas 1989.

No, no, I couldn't have. Because I remember showing my same friend Valis II, Monster Lair, Ys I & II around the same time. Maybe it was the winter of 1990? Winter of 1991?

See?

Memories are suspect. I honestly can't pinpoint when I got TG-CD...1990? 1991? Season?
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: GreatBlueSwirlof99 on July 31, 2015, 12:02:40 AM
Ok good I'll find my games from '89/90!

Comrade, it is about having evidence of the *actual* release dates being verified by *receipt* or *distinct memory* or ______.

For example, I know I played GOLDEN AXE and LAST BATTLE and THUNDERFORCE  II on my friend's Genesis before Xmas 1989.

No, no, I couldn't have. Because I remember showing my same friend Valis II, Monster Lair, Ys I & II around the same time. Maybe it was the winter of 1990? Winter of 1991?

See?

Memories are suspect. I honestly can't pinpoint when I got TG-CD...1990? 1991? Season
Oh ok well I remember Alex Kidd in the enchanted castle in '89 in a store somewhere but it was clearly '89 cuz I was pissed that SNES was not here and was hyped for SMB3!
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: MrBroadway on August 01, 2015, 08:10:27 PM
Ok good I'll find my games from '89/90!

Comrade, it is about having evidence of the *actual* release dates being verified by *receipt* or *distinct memory* or ______.

For example, I know I played GOLDEN AXE and LAST BATTLE and THUNDERFORCE  II on my friend's Genesis before Xmas 1989.

No, no, I couldn't have. Because I remember showing my same friend Valis II, Monster Lair, Ys I & II around the same time. Maybe it was the winter of 1990? Winter of 1991?

See?

Memories are suspect. I honestly can't pinpoint when I got TG-CD...1990? 1991? Season
Oh ok well I remember Alex Kidd in the enchanted castle in '89 in a store somewhere but it was clearly '89 cuz I was pissed that SNES was not here and was hyped for SMB3!
Still could have been 1990. SMB3 was released in Feb. 1990 in USA (1991 in PAL territories).
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 08, 2015, 12:41:28 PM
Maybe if I hit "report to moderator" Joe will see it?

Joe is good at replying when you respond to a post of his, so I would go into the GameSack thread, reply to a post, but explain that you are really trying to confirm some of these titles (I would include link to this thread, but I would include the specific handful of 1989vs1990? titles—Revenge on top of Shonibi, Zuul!, etc.—over in GameSack thread...because what if he doesn't want to follow the link?)

Of that doesn't work, PM him and put "Stephen Baldwin" in the title.

That worked. Also anything Stephen Baldwin is a win. Except when it's not.

As I said in the other thread I'm not sure if World Championship Soccer was released later than the other launch day games. I think it was a launch game but I don't have any real evidence. I just recall seeing it in the store along with Thunder Force 2 and the other listed launch games. But now that I think about it I'm not sure if Tommy Lasorda Baseball was a launch game as I don't recall seeing it THAT early. It may have been. Memory is a fickle thing.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 08, 2015, 01:02:23 PM
Also I question the Ghouls 'n Ghosts release date as being in September. I think it was October. I got it right away and my first entry in the scorebook part of the manual was on 10-31-89. I don't think it would take me an entire month to get a score like that. By the way "mega end" means that I got through both playthroughs. The "end" after that score likely means the same thing.

(http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/GnGscore.jpg)
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Gentlegamer on August 08, 2015, 01:31:16 PM
Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 08, 2015, 03:15:13 PM
Thanks, Joe.  I'm actually most interested in the release of Forgotten Worlds, Mystic Defender, The Revenge of Shinobi and Zoom!.  Got any clear memory of those?

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 08, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
I'm pretty sure Revenge of Shinobi was 1989. Forgotten Worlds I have no clue as I didn't get that until after Christmas. Mystic Defender again no idea. I only ever rented Zoom and that's the only time I have ever played it. No clue when that was. I do remember, however, that t sucked pretty hard.
Title: Re: Pinning down early Genesis release "windows"...
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 08, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
Yeah Zoom! is not a particularly good game.  Anyway, thanks for having a look!