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Title: Double Dragon II
Post by: escarioth on August 06, 2015, 05:33:32 AM
I wanted to get that game for some time.
still dont have it but im not in a hurry
i'm not sure if the game worth it :)

surely some of you here played it already ?
so is the nes version as good ?
or am i in for some new fun that i wont be expecting ?
surely music is CD quality ? (i know there's animations)

 :dance:
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 06, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
I wanted to get that game for some time.
still dont have it but im not in a hurry
i'm not sure if the game worth it :)

surely some of you here played it already ?
so is the nes version as good ?
or am i in for some new fun that i wont be expecting ?
surely music is CD quality ? (i know there's animations)

 :dance:


It's a decent game. But this post probably should have gone to the PC Engine forum rather than TurboGrafx.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: escarioth on August 06, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
yeah well.. i noticed right after  [-X
i was focusing too much on same forum part.

my bad  #-o
i wanted to delete it but can t find the option  :-s
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 06, 2015, 08:12:43 AM
yeah well.. i noticed right after  [-X
i was focusing too much on same forum part.

my bad  #-o
i wanted to delete it but can t find the option  :-s

Maybe a robot who loves Microsoft and Warren Buffet can move the thread for you.
Title: Double Dragon II
Post by: esteban on August 06, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
I wanted to get that game for some time.
still dont have it but im not in a hurry
i'm not sure if the game worth it :)

surely some of you here played it already ?
so is the nes version as good ?
or am i in for some new fun that i wont be expecting ?
surely music is CD quality ? (i know there's animations)

 :dance:


I think NES DDII is the better game. BIAS: it is one of my fave games on the NES. However, if you are pussy, stay away from NES DDII because it is quite challenging in parts (there is a segment with retractable bricks (essentially disappearing platforms) that requires very precise timing, for example.


That said, the PCE DDII is totally worthwhile for any fan of Double Dragon series. If you like Double Dragon at all, the PCE version is fun.

It is not an amazing game like Dracula X, of course...so keep your expectations realistic.

I waited some time before I bought it, but I didn't regret it of course, the current $$$ might be high (IDK).

HERE (an ancient post where I defended the Red Book and argued that the soundtrack alone justified purchase of PCE game):

http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2961
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: bob on August 06, 2015, 08:55:29 AM

I think NES DDII is the better game. BIAS: it is one of my fave games on the NES. However, if you are pussy, stay away from NES DDII because it is quite challenging in parts (there is a segment with retractable bricks (essentially disappearing platforms) that requires very precise timing, for example.


disappearing platforms in any game causes stress related controller smashings.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Necromancer on August 06, 2015, 09:07:55 AM
http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/2014/04/double-dragon-ii-revenge.html

You'll never go wrong with runin's reviews.  :mrgreen:

Basically, if you like NES DDII you'll like the PCE one and vice versa.  It improves on the NES version in pretty much every way, but it doesn't stray far from the original.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: jperryss on August 06, 2015, 09:32:32 AM
Basically, if you like NES DDII you'll like the PCE one and vice versa.  It improves on the NES version in pretty much every way, but it doesn't stray far from the original.

Also, more asscheek on the front cover.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: jtucci31 on August 06, 2015, 09:35:08 AM
I've wanted to try this in more depth. Chany bought it at Octurbofest last year but I only got to try it briefly. Played well from what I remember.

And Necro: Sadly that's been the last Bros duomazov review in awhile. It's my go-to site for pce reviews and sometimes becomes the deciding factor for me buying a game (not always though).
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Necromancer on August 06, 2015, 09:36:45 AM
Also, more asscheek on the front cover.

Heh, that too.

Which cover ass is better - DDII or Cobra?

And Necro: Sadly that's been the last Bros duomazov review in awhile.

Yarr, it's been too long.  Where's the Hatris review, dang it?!?
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: escarioth on August 06, 2015, 09:47:51 AM
ah :)
i'm very happy to be telling all of this.
i wanted to play it for a while

i finished double dragon II some years ago on nes and found it ..
quite challenging  :wink:

when i found out about a pc-engine version i was overjoyed :)
just thinking about cd music alone  =P~

ok now i'm gonna have to find a copy   :pray:
i'm going to shake japan a little to see if one or two are dropping out  :-"
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: jperryss on August 06, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
Heh, that too.

Which cover ass is better - DDII or Cobra?

DDII wins, Cobra is trying too hard.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Samuray on August 06, 2015, 12:42:44 PM
I'll want to get this one too, sometime in the future.
Always thought it would be kinda moot having both the NES and the PCE copy but once I found out how different both games are, how different they feel, it was clear to me I needed both. :)
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Punch on August 06, 2015, 01:01:30 PM
"Doburu... Dorago!!!" 2 is one of the games that made me a PCE fan for life. While I agree with the Duomazov review that the game is average at best, I feel that the game has a certain unique charm to it. It's as fun as the nes version even if the cutscenes are cheese fests, music varies from weird to awesome and the graphics could be better drawn.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: imparanoic on August 06, 2015, 02:44:27 PM
pc engine duo DD2 was a much faster and improved significantly on the nes, nes only had 2 enemies on screen due to technical limitations, pc engine duo had more, combined the fact that pc engine duo version was much faster, thus, the pacing and action seems more frantic

in fact, even if you compare to the super dd, the pc engine duo seems more exciting and better variety, but the snes /sfc was visually and technically better ( I recall up to 4 enemies on screen), on the distant cousin, combatribes on snes/sfc kills pc engine duo dd2

while the Gameboy advance, which is from a different era is one of the best versions, unless you consider the improved android arcade port of dd2 ( which I love using dual shock 3 ps3 joypad on my xperia z2 and z tablet) which was released a few years ago
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: WoodyXP on August 06, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
I really dig PCE DD2.  My only knock on it is that when punches/kicks connect they don't provide the same satisfaction that I get from the arcade and some of the home ports. Can't put my finger on what it is, might be the way the characters animate when they get hit.

Also, would have been nice if they would have worked the Ninja, Right Arm, Abobo and Williams into the game.  Their sprites are available in the hidden sprite viewer. 
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: schweaty on August 07, 2015, 04:32:37 AM
Ah... Double Doragon 2.  Great game.  Wasn't too sure about it the first time I played it, but once I really figured out the game, I loved it.  I really like the alternate endings (not a lot of that back then).  It's probably my favorite beat'emup on the system (not saying much here)

BTW - the music on mission 6 is legit
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 07, 2015, 05:06:58 AM
Honestly I just liked the Nes one a lot more, especially the music on it, though the arcade and Mega Drive versions are my fav ones as far as pt 2 goes. I wasn't keen on the over all look or sound of the music on the PCE port, not that I think it is bad. I have Return of Double Dragon for SFC also, and I mean it just stomps all over PCE Double Dragon 2. Way more moves in that game, and the enemies put up a better fight. That and the soundtrack just kicks so much ass. Speaking of Double Dragon, the Famicom copy of pt3 should arrive to me today in the mail. Tracking shows it is out for delivery. :)
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: WoodyXP on August 07, 2015, 02:26:26 PM
Speaking of Double Dragon, the Famicom copy of pt3 should arrive to me today in the mail. Tracking shows it is out for delivery. :)

I wish you luck.  That game is TOUGH.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: MrBroadway on August 07, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
Last time I tried playing DDII, I found it hard to get back into. I always felt like I wanted to play a better beat em up instead. I think I ended up getting rid of the whole trilogy on the NES a few years back. Only slightly kicking myself now for it.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 07, 2015, 04:00:04 PM
Speaking of Double Dragon, the Famicom copy of pt3 should arrive to me today in the mail. Tracking shows it is out for delivery. :)

I wish you luck.  That game is TOUGH.

Got to Egypt on my first try this evening, so that at least has to count for something. :P What screwed me up there was the first two guys that appear. They pretty much run at you and attack as soon as the screen comes up. Didn't have time to prepare for it, so I got cornered and lost Billy right off the bat. Now I know what to expect for next time.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: esteban on August 08, 2015, 06:13:03 AM

Honestly I just liked the Nes one a lot more, especially the music on it, though the arcade and Mega Drive versions are my fav ones as far as pt 2 goes. I wasn't keen on the over all look or sound of the music on the PCE port, not that I think it is bad. I have Return of Double Dragon for SFC also, and I mean it just stomps all over PCE Double Dragon 2. Way more moves in that game, and the enemies put up a better fight. That and the soundtrack just kicks so much ass. Speaking of Double Dragon, the Famicom copy of pt3 should arrive to me today in the mail. Tracking shows it is out for delivery. :)

NES version is so sweet :)

"All I did was Abobo the chicken!"
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: escarioth on August 09, 2015, 11:20:53 PM
i know there's an arcade version of the game,
is the PCengine version a direct port ?

since i never played both (only played nes) , surely someone here knows :)

Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: GohanX on August 10, 2015, 03:03:35 AM
No, not even close. The pce game is more like a remake of the NES game. That's fine, as it was better than the arcade game anyway.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Dicer on August 10, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
No, not even close. The pce game is more like a remake of the NES game. That's fine, as it was better than the arcade game anyway.

Pretty much this, PCE DDII is an up port of the nes conversion, which isn't a bad thing AT ALL...

Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: imparanoic on August 10, 2015, 04:54:19 PM
No, not even close. The pce game is more like a remake of the NES game. That's fine, as it was better than the arcade game anyway.

Double Dragon 2 on the arcade was the pinnacle of fighting games 1998  (prior final fight which came out a year later, which surpass this game), the point being that they change the fighting system to make it more challenging than the relatively easy prequel thus quite of depth of the game

more variety of enemies and that it suffered slowdowns as the hardware struggled to cope with the scale/complexity of this game

IMO, on the Gameboy advance remake/improvement surpass which was released 14-15 years after the dd 2 arcade release, neither the pc engine, nes, pitiful megadrive or the technical advanced, but boring snes dd could match dd2 on the arcade.

in fact, the recent release of DD trilogy on android  ( which I use ps3 dual shock 3 and dedicated clip) and iphone made me constant replays on dd2 especially as they perfected it by eliminated the slowdowns and even more fun than the us made ps3/x360 dd neon 


Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: chany60126 on August 10, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
I have only played the PC Engine version of Double Dragon 2, so I have nothing else to compare it to. But for what it is, it's a fun game. The AI puts up a good fight as they are resourceful and always pick up weapons lying around. But they are not overly cheap like in some other beat em ups. I find the difficulty of the game to be just right. The game plays nicely in 2-player mode. If you can find it for a reasonable price, I recommend it.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: escarioth on August 10, 2015, 11:56:44 PM
well i guess then all i need now is to find a good price and ill just pick this one up :D
thanks for all infos ;)
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: Necromancer on August 11, 2015, 02:56:51 AM
Double Dragon 2 on the arcade was the pinnacle of fighting games 1998.....

Bro, do you even gregorian calendar?  :P
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 03:59:52 AM

Double Dragon 2 on the arcade was the pinnacle of fighting games 1998.....

Bro, do you even gregorian calendar?  :P

So many classic beat-em-ups came out in 1998. Great year.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: wildfruit on August 11, 2015, 06:04:46 AM

Double Dragon 2 on the arcade was the pinnacle of fighting games 1998.....

Bro, do you even gregorian calendar?  :P

So many classic beat-em-ups came out in 1998. Great year.
It was a great year for Bill Clinton
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: MrBroadway on August 11, 2015, 06:23:36 AM
There were beat em ups in 1998, but they were happening in Kosovo and Congo. Although I guess the former is more of a run n gun and the latter a hack n slash.
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: imparanoic on August 12, 2015, 02:50:48 PM
I meant 1988, not 1998

apart from dragon ninja vs bad dudes, the dd cousin Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun and Vigilante, scrolling beat em up were still in their early cycle of growth, probably year 1989 or 1990 was their mature years with final fight, golden axe  and konami teenage mutant ninja turtles as the golden years of scrolling beat em up before the one on one beat em up craze started in 1991
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: MrBroadway on August 12, 2015, 02:59:19 PM
There were beat em ups in 1998, but they were happening in Kosovo and Congo. Although I guess the former is more of a run n gun and the latter a hack n slash.
What, too dark?
Title: Re: Double Dragon II
Post by: esteban on August 12, 2015, 10:51:36 PM

There were beat em ups in 1998, but they were happening in Kosovo and Congo. Although I guess the former is more of a run n gun and the latter a hack n slash.
What, too dark?

No, folks were confused if you were referring to movies or geopolitical conflict.