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Title: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: Otaking on August 08, 2015, 01:43:13 AM
I just watched this new Pat the NES Punk video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFrWhJNFmQ And basically he says he doesn't believe there's much interest in Super Famicom and Famicom games. Well I'm not up on Famicom but this couldn't be any further from the truth with Super Famicom. In the last two years demand for Super Famicom games has gone absolutely crazy, to meet the demand prices have gone through the roof, tons of games have quadrupled in price. They also talk a bit about TurboGrafx and PC Engine.
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Post by: slinkyturd on August 08, 2015, 03:40:37 AM
Pat the NES Punk is a turd
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Post by: VenomMacbeth on August 08, 2015, 03:43:27 AM
God dammit, I was wondering why Ninja Warriors and Biometal are steadily climbing in price
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Post by: Punch on August 08, 2015, 05:13:58 AM
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Post by: esteban on August 08, 2015, 05:51:38 AM
It's Pat.
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Post by: technozombie on August 08, 2015, 06:19:04 AM
I like to watch Pat but its funny how off or clueless he is on some things. On one video he was talking about Razer buying Ouya, and he was like don't they make scooters. I've never bought a Razer product but I thought most people with any interested in gaming at least knew they made PC peripherals.
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Post by: sirhcman on August 08, 2015, 06:29:10 AM
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Post by: GreatBlueSwirlof99 on August 09, 2015, 01:55:14 PM
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Just some turd. [/quote] So true +1
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Post by: Jibbajaba on August 09, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
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Post by: esteban on August 09, 2015, 02:17:39 PM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
They are jealous.
He is charming.
They are jealous.
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Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 09, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Maybe he didn't like Sega, SNK, Trip Hawkens, or NEC enough. It's always something. I guess I have never even seen the guys videos, Maybe I should watch a couple and see how I feel about them.
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Post by: esteban on August 09, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
Maybe he didn't like Sega, SNK, Trip Hawkens, or NEC enough. It's always something. I guess I have never even seen the guys videos, Maybe I should watch a couple and see how I feel about them.
Sometimes he is accurate—he seems to be speaking from experience (rooted in a lifelong love for games).
He seems reasonable with most of his ideas/arguments (I've only seen a few of his videos, mind you).
However, like most folks who speak off-the-cuff...he over-generalizes, says silly stuff that is illogical) because he hasn't fully considered the implications/counter-evidence)....relies on faltering memory (when it would take mere seconds to verify online, etc.
I think he has charisma and is entertaining (at times).
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Post by: EmperorIng on August 09, 2015, 05:06:22 PM
It's youtube shows like this that actually drive up older game prices. Popular personality loves or plays a game = a new demand for said game.
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Post by: MrBroadway on August 09, 2015, 06:59:51 PM
It's youtube shows like this that actually drive up older game prices. Popular personality loves or plays a game = a new demand for said game.
I buy three copies of every game Joe and Dave recommend. Sometimes even four.
(Serious note, I only went out and bought a game once on their recommendation for fear of a price hike, and that game was Bee 52. It wasn't nearly as good as Dave implied it being.)
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Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 09, 2015, 07:10:08 PM
Some of the Gamesack videos are really well thought out and all, and have great content. Some of them though feel like time wasters put out there to just to say "Hey we are still here". I wish they would go bi-weekly or something instead of every week, and do better videos then filler about demo disc.
And I mean, each episode doesn't have to be about a bunch of games from some specific genre or whatever. It would be cool to see someone take the time to focus on one specific game, dig up as much dirt about it as possible including regional differences or last min changes made to the game, and do a good piece on it. There are plenty of games that deserve that kind of video. Akumajo Densetsu, Run Sabre, Bionic Commando etc.
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Post by: esteban on August 09, 2015, 07:38:39 PM
Some of the Gamesack videos are really well thought out and all, and have great content. Some of them though feel like time wasters put out there to just to say "Hey we are still here". I wish they would go bi-weekly or something instead of every week, and do better videos then filler about demo disc.
And I mean, each episode doesn't have to be about a bunch of games from some specific genre or whatever. It would be cool to see someone take the time to focus on one specific game, dig up as much dirt about it as possible including regional differences or last min changes made to the game, and do a good piece on it. There are plenty of games that deserve that kind of video. Akumajo Densetsu, Run Sabre, Bionic Commando etc.
I agree. I think that *depth* is seriously lacking everywhere (not just GameSack).
Sure, a handful of articles/videos/posts might dig into something, but it is rare.
(A) The dude from magweasel...he digs into things sometimes. It might not have been groundbreaking stuff for Japanese PCE fans, but it was fun for non-Japanese speaking folks. I wish he didn't abandon his PCE magazine project—he put things *into context*, which is something that requires knowledge of Japan, and historical events in pop culture history.....not simply language skills.
I saved all his PCE posts because I know I'll re-read it.
(B) I really don't know the French PCE scene (I have a toddler's grasp of the language), but I get the impression that they had a somewhat informed view of the PCE that we (NA TG-16 fans) lack, even to this day. I'm talking about possessing a basic, solid understanding of the Japanese market, economics of industry, role of developers, etc.
Anyway...
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Post by: MrBroadway on August 09, 2015, 07:55:08 PM
If you have French stuff, I could translate.
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Post by: Opethian on August 10, 2015, 02:35:08 AM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
The Completely Useless Podcast
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Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 10, 2015, 02:54:19 AM
Sometimes he is accurate—he seems to be speaking from experience (rooted in a lifelong love for games).
He seems reasonable with most of his ideas/arguments (I've only seen a few of his videos, mind you).
However, like most folks who speak off-the-cuff...he over-generalizes, says silly stuff that is illogical) because he hasn't fully considered the implications/counter-evidence)....relies on faltering memory (when it would take mere seconds to verify online, etc.
I think he has charisma and is entertaining (at times).
I don't find Pat super entertaining, but he is knowledgable about some things and does go about seeking out answers the right way even if it's too late.
He actually did take the time to post here around the time of his TG16 video and got a lot of answers and clarifications to misconceptions he had about the system and how the US side of the business was run. I appreciate the effort even if he could handle it better.
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Post by: Jibbajaba on August 10, 2015, 05:02:43 AM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
The Completely Useless Podcast
Really? The only videos of Pat's that I watch on occasion are the little sing;e-subject breakout vids of the Completely Useless Podcast.
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Post by: esteban on August 10, 2015, 06:40:45 AM
Sometimes he is accurate—he seems to be speaking from experience (rooted in a lifelong love for games).
He seems reasonable with most of his ideas/arguments (I've only seen a few of his videos, mind you).
However, like most folks who speak off-the-cuff...he over-generalizes, says silly stuff that is illogical) because he hasn't fully considered the implications/counter-evidence)....relies on faltering memory (when it would take mere seconds to verify online, etc.
I think he has charisma and is entertaining (at times).
I don't find Pat super entertaining, but he is knowledgable about some things and does go about seeking out answers the right way even if it's too late.
He actually did take the time to post here around the time of his TG16 video and got a lot of answers and clarifications to misconceptions he had about the system and how the US side of the business was run. I appreciate the effort even if he could handle it better.
What was his account? Do you remember it? Ha!
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Post by: ClodBuster on August 10, 2015, 07:43:16 AM
Could it be...
this one? https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8961.msg153352#msg153352
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Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 10, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
this one? https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8961.msg153352#msg153352
Ha. That's hilarious. :)
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Post by: ClodBuster on August 10, 2015, 07:53:30 AM
I aim to please.
Dan, sorry I didn't see you already quoted my post, when I edited mine to not only show Pat's user profile but that specific thread.
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Post by: slinkyturd on August 10, 2015, 03:55:22 PM
Pat the NES Turd sometimes has some hairier turd with him in his videos and they sit there and bitch about shit they know nothing about or even other youtube gamer personalities like they are some authority. And I'm fine with bitching, I do an awful lot of it, but The NES Turd isn't entertaining. I don't want to use language like "retarded" but this is the grown up (I use that term lightly "Broadcasting live from my mom's basement, I'm Pat The NES Turd") version of the kid that got that treatment on the playground in grade school.
Also, Why does everyone need a title? "The NES Turd," "Angry Video Game Nerd," "Happy Video Game Nerd," Metal Jesus," ...???! This is like the dude that introduces himself with the nickname he chose for himself. "No, no, no, dude. You're shit doesn't pick your own nickname. Your friends do and they do it to bring you down a peg or mark you for something awesome or awful that you did. That's how it works!"
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Post by: toymachine78 on August 10, 2015, 04:02:42 PM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
They come across as pretentious to me, and I really hate that.
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Post by: cr8zykuban0 on August 10, 2015, 06:12:12 PM
a lot of people i know say he just seems like a dick, i personally dont see anything wrong with him.
then again, i haven't seen much of his videos
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Post by: seieienbu on August 10, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
I don't like how Pat and the other guy talk about how lame it is that people have a collection on their shelves/whatever while sitting in front of that many NES games. I'm convinced that anyone who owns a NES World Championship cart is a collectard of the highest order and to look down on other people for trying to do exactly what Pat's done is hypocritical.
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Post by: Gentlegamer on August 10, 2015, 10:38:13 PM
I don't like how Pat and the other guy talk about how lame it is that people have a collection on their shelves/whatever while sitting in front of that many NES games. I'm convinced that anyone who owns a NES World Championship cart is a collectard of the highest order and to look down on other people for trying to do exactly what Pat's done is hypocritical.
Pat owns both the grey and gold NWC carts.
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Post by: slinkyturd on August 11, 2015, 05:17:47 AM
I don't like how Pat and the other guy talk about how lame it is that people have a collection on their shelves/whatever while sitting in front of that many NES games. I'm convinced that anyone who owns a NES World Championship cart is a collectard of the highest order and to look down on other people for trying to do exactly what Pat's done is hypocritical.
Pat owns both the grey and gold NWC carts.
That really is unfathomable how collectard-ish that is. I mean they aren't even complete games. They are a couple levels from a bunch of bad games. It's not like anyone picks those up and decides to play them at all. The value is absolutely only in rarity and not 1% in playability.
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Post by: EvilEvoIX on August 11, 2015, 05:28:47 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
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Post by: toymachine78 on August 11, 2015, 05:48:06 AM
I don't like how Pat and the other guy talk about how lame it is that people have a collection on their shelves/whatever while sitting in front of that many NES games. I'm convinced that anyone who owns a NES World Championship cart is a collectard of the highest order and to look down on other people for trying to do exactly what Pat's done is hypocritical.
No... He is 100% certified hoarder collectard of the highest order. Its one thing to collect shit to sit on a shelf so you can look at it, admire it, and use it to boost your self esteem, but he has tons of shit boxed up in his garage that he never even sees or uses. What's the point!?
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Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 05:59:19 AM
I don't like how Pat and the other guy talk about how lame it is that people have a collection on their shelves/whatever while sitting in front of that many NES games. I'm convinced that anyone who owns a NES World Championship cart is a collectard of the highest order and to look down on other people for trying to do exactly what Pat's done is hypocritical.
Pat owns both the grey and gold NWC carts.
That really is unfathomable how collectard-ish that is. I mean they aren't even complete games. They are a couple levels from a bunch of bad games. It's not like anyone picks those up and decides to play them at all. The value is absolutely only in rarity and not 1% in playability.
You are crazy. The contest was a solid concept: three segments from three excellent games.
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Post by: Otaking on August 11, 2015, 06:11:11 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
I'm no Pat the Nes Punk expert, I only lightly watch the odd video on his channel, but even I know he doesn't own every NES game, he doesn't own a US Stadium Events as far as I remember.
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 11, 2015, 07:19:37 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
If he has extensively documented each game and hosts a mega site dedicated to the NES, where he makes all the info and media free to the public and is helping to preserve history, that would be a huge achievement.
Spending money is nothing to brag about.
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Post by: Otaking on August 11, 2015, 07:29:59 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
If he has extensively documented each game and hosts a mega site dedicated to the NES, where he makes all the info and media free to the public and is helping to preserve history, that would be a huge achievement.
Spending money is nothing to brag about.
Credit to Pat he does do an annual NES marathon, where he gives all the money raised to charity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwMn90Aep80 Not sure the exact details of the marathon but I think he plays a bit of all the NES games in his collection in one sitting??
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Post by: sirhcman on August 11, 2015, 07:44:22 AM
Not sure the exact details of the marathon but I think he plays a bit of all the NES games in his collection in one sitting??
He did that for the first year (maybe second as well, I can't remember). He mainly has a set # of games that he plays now if they hit goals or if you donate a certain amount then you can request a game to be played. He and Ian usually do it for about 24-30 hours straight and they normally raise in the range of $15,000 a year for charity
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Post by: xelement5x on August 11, 2015, 07:47:35 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
If he has extensively documented each game and hosts a mega site dedicated to the NES, where he makes all the info and media free to the public and is helping to preserve history, that would be a huge achievement.
Spending money is nothing to brag about.
http://richkidsofsnapchat.tumblr.com/
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Post by: MrBroadway on August 11, 2015, 07:53:12 AM
I'm a fan. He isn't a huge talent but just a NES Super fan. I believe he has ALL the NES games ever made. That is a huge achievement.
If he has extensively documented each game and hosts a mega site dedicated to the NES, where he makes all the info and media free to the public and is helping to preserve history, that would be a huge achievement.
Spending money is nothing to brag about.
This a thousand times. What f*cktards think that someone who can just ebay a collection has achieved anything? Mention his charity work, not his collectardation.
Just like that guy that bought every single PS2 game. Way to go, guy. You bought a bunch of games you'll never play, you'll never think about twice, just to say you did. You've successfully started a circle jerk.
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Post by: Mzo on August 11, 2015, 07:57:43 AM
Pat's a horrible actor and I really dislike his skits and hackneyed writing. I feel embarrassed for him when I watch them and, if someone were to walk into the room while I was doing so, I would probably die of embarrassment myself.
I enjoyed his flea market madness videos until he changed his reaction faces to go out of their way to show his flexed bicep somehow. They're still ok, though.
I listen to the Completely Unnecessary Podcast because I really like Ian. They're wrong about a bunch of stuff but it's ok. In the last one I listened to someone wrote in asking their opinion on Rare Replay fixing the Battletoads glitch and Ian had it in his head it was running out of lives for one player leading to a continue and level restart in a two player game, which isn't a glitch at all. Weird they wouldn't have ever heard of the glitch that disables the second player's controls during the Clinger Winger stage, but sure!
I assume he's popular because he's been around forever and not because he's particularly talented or charming in any way.
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Post by: Joe Redifer on August 11, 2015, 09:00:56 AM
I don't base any of my opinions of Pat on his videos. Well... maybe just one. His NES Punk videos seem awfully similar to Irate Gamer videos in the way they flow and are edited, except Irate Gamer has more green screen effects. But still, they're the same. Gameplay with someone decent dialog, pop back out (re: interrupt) to Pat (or Chris Bores) on camera for an awful joke, then back to more gameplay. But anyway my opinions of Pat are based on working with the man himself. Any of you guys ever have a manager who thinks he knows your job better than you even though he absolutely doesn't? A manager that places more stock in his ego and control than the quality of the product being produced? That's Pat. I have not heard of one editor from The Video Game Years that likes the guy. Oh sure, we all start out liking him. But make a suggestion and BOOM Pat blows up because A) He didn't come up with it and B) You posted it so all the other editors can see it and that is embarrassing for Pat... even though the suggestions involve the other editors. Pat told one of the editors to f*ck off at Too Many Games. Can't remember why but not at all surprised.
Bottom line: He takes himself too seriously and that's why he's always getting pranked by Billy and Jay from the Game Chasers. He gets really quiet when that happens.
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Post by: Mzo on August 11, 2015, 09:12:22 AM
He talks a lot about his Writing and Acting, capital letters implied. If he was humble about it and it was the best he could do, I'd be cool with it. It's the way he's cocky about something terrible that makes me think less of him.
He does come off as exactly the kind of guy you're describing, Joe. That sucks =/
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Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 09:42:20 AM
I don't base any of my opinions of Pat on his videos. Well... maybe just one. His NES Punk videos seem awfully similar to Irate Gamer videos in the way they flow and are edited, except Irate Gamer has more green screen effects. But still, they're the same. Gameplay with someone decent dialog, pop back out (re: interrupt) to Pat (or Chris Bores) on camera for an awful joke, then back to more gameplay. But anyway my opinions of Pat are based on working with the man himself. Any of you guys ever have a manager who thinks he knows your job better than you even though he absolutely doesn't? A manager that places more stock in his ego and control than the quality of the product being produced? That's Pat. I have not heard of one editor from The Video Game Years that likes the guy. Oh sure, we all start out liking him. But make a suggestion and BOOM Pat blows up because A) He didn't come up with it and B) You posted it so all the other editors can see it and that is embarrassing for Pat... even though the suggestions involve the other editors. Pat told one of the editors to f*ck off at Too Many Games. Can't remember why but not at all surprised.
Bottom line: He takes himself too seriously and that's why he's always getting pranked by Billy and Jay from the Game Chasers. He gets really quiet when that happens.
Damn.
I thought I was going to hear how he was a funny, down-to-earth person.
Oh well.
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Post by: toymachine78 on August 11, 2015, 10:14:03 AM
I don't base any of my opinions of Pat on his videos. Well... maybe just one. His NES Punk videos seem awfully similar to Irate Gamer videos in the way they flow and are edited, except Irate Gamer has more green screen effects. But still, they're the same. Gameplay with someone decent dialog, pop back out (re: interrupt) to Pat (or Chris Bores) on camera for an awful joke, then back to more gameplay. But anyway my opinions of Pat are based on working with the man himself. Any of you guys ever have a manager who thinks he knows your job better than you even though he absolutely doesn't? A manager that places more stock in his ego and control than the quality of the product being produced? That's Pat. I have not heard of one editor from The Video Game Years that likes the guy. Oh sure, we all start out liking him. But make a suggestion and BOOM Pat blows up because A) He didn't come up with it and B) You posted it so all the other editors can see it and that is embarrassing for Pat... even though the suggestions involve the other editors. Pat told one of the editors to f*ck off at Too Many Games. Can't remember why but not at all surprised.
Bottom line: He takes himself too seriously and that's why he's always getting pranked by Billy and Jay from the Game Chasers. He gets really quiet when that happens.
There ya go.... Proof of the pretentiousness that the two of them ( pat & ian) reek of.
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Post by: BigusSchmuck on August 11, 2015, 11:25:31 AM
Wasn't he on Pawn Stars or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrntYxB92GU Can't get any more collectardy than that.
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Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 11, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
Bottom line: He takes himself too seriously and that's why he's always getting pranked by Billy and Jay from the Game Chasers. He gets really quiet when that happens.
It's why I enjoyed Mike Matei griefing him when he "guested" on Cinemassacre.
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Post by: technozombie on August 11, 2015, 05:40:10 PM
Pat is always talking down on people who do let's plays because they don't require and talent.
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Post by: Otaking on August 12, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
Wasn't he on Pawn Stars or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrntYxB92GU Can't get any more collectardy than that.
I love Pawn Stars though, Chumlee is a legend!
In that episode Pat claims the NWC carts "are the most coveted video games on the planet", that's far from true.
It's all scripted.
Yeah seriously, I thought there was some level of realism in the show until I saw that episode. Then my eyes were opened.
I do think some of these types of shows are scripted or staged, but for the most part I doubt Pawn Stars is. It's real people bringing in their stuff to sell, I don't know how you'd convince all those customers going to a pawn shop to try and maximise their sale to adhere to a script. Even it was scripted it wouldn't matter to me, I enjoy it as trash TV to zone out to.
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Post by: MrBroadway on August 12, 2015, 05:05:58 AM
Wasn't he on Pawn Stars or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrntYxB92GU Can't get any more collectardy than that.
I love Pawn Stars though, Chumlee is a legend!
In that episode Pat claims the NWC carts "are the most coveted video games on the planet", that's far from true.
It's all scripted.
Yeah seriously, I thought there was some level of realism in the show until I saw that episode. Then my eyes were opened.
I do think some of these types of shows are scripted or staged, but for the most part I doubt Pawn Stars is. It's real people bringing in their stuff to sell, I don't know how you'd convince all those customers going to a pawn shop to try and maximise their sale to adhere to a script. Even it was scripted it wouldn't matter to me, I enjoy it as trash TV to zone out to.
I'm sure there is studio compensation.
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Post by: Otaking on August 12, 2015, 05:12:15 AM
Wasn't he on Pawn Stars or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrntYxB92GU Can't get any more collectardy than that.
I love Pawn Stars though, Chumlee is a legend!
In that episode Pat claims the NWC carts "are the most coveted video games on the planet", that's far from true.
It's all scripted.
Yeah seriously, I thought there was some level of realism in the show until I saw that episode. Then my eyes were opened.
I do think some of these types of shows are scripted or staged, but for the most part I doubt Pawn Stars is. It's real people bringing in their stuff to sell, I don't know how you'd convince all those customers going to a pawn shop to try and maximise their sale to adhere to a script. Even it was scripted it wouldn't matter to me, I enjoy it as trash TV to zone out to.
I'm sure there is studio compensation.
I doubt it, the value of the stuff people bring in is pretty high, if they had to compensate them all the show budget would be too high, I can't see it myself. I do think the bits in between the customers coming in is probably staged a bit, but it's still entertaing in a trash TV kinda way.
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Post by: Necromancer on August 12, 2015, 05:46:42 AM
The interaction between the cast is scripted, it's shot on a stage and not the real store, and the customers are all staged, where the items being pawned have all been researched and values agreed upon. There's no other way to do such a show.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on August 12, 2015, 05:51:24 AM
http://starcasm.net/archives/274427
Extremely scripted, and an extremely lame show.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: Necromancer on August 12, 2015, 07:19:24 AM
Who'd want to watch it if it were real? All you'd see is employees generally being civil with each other and a steady stream of people pawning off cheap stereos, power tools, and jewelry.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: Otaking on August 12, 2015, 08:41:12 AM
I didn't google it before posting before, I just did and yes it does appear it's pre-planned and scripted, which is surprising as that's quite elaborate lengths to go to, to fabricate all that. Looking about on google it seems like it's common knowledge in the States that it's fake, guess I'm out the loop on this one living in another country. Still doesn't change much for me though, was just light entertainment TV.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: MrBroadway on August 12, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
I didn't google it before posting before, I just did and yes it does appear it's pre-planned and scripted, which is surprising as that's quite elaborate lengths to go to, to fabricate all that.
It's a TV show that generates a shit ton of revenue. You think it's more elaborate than Breaking Bad or Mad Men?
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: sirhcman on August 12, 2015, 10:38:17 AM
as long as they continue to have Rebecca Romney fondle books on there I will watch! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: DarkKobold on August 12, 2015, 10:54:26 AM
Why do people dislike Pat the NES Punk so much? I mean, I'm not a fan OR hater but I don't see how he's different than any other popular YouTube gaming personality. What did he do to rub people the wrong way?
I seriously dislike him for a few reasons.
First. he says lots of completely inaccurate things. He's got a great Nintendo collection, but that doesn't guarantee he's an expert at the subject. That doesn't stop him from pretending that he's somehow now an expert at all things video games and collecting... or people from treating him like he is.
Second, his podcast videos reek of the entitlement of old school collectors that drives me insane. His podcast on "eBay bots buying up good deals" was basically "I used to be able to get good deals on eBay, but now I can't. Poor little me." Then, he claims these bots are illegal, even though they aren't, at all. Entitlement to lower prices is probably what drives me most batty.
Finally, he and his buddy Ian are hypocrites. Ian runs a freaking video game store, and still whines of resellers... Constantly. I'm sorry, but I don't buy the "good resellers" versus "bad resellers" argument. If you are buying for $X, then selling for greater than $X, it doesn't matter if your price is lower than the other guys, you are still part of the situation of rising prices. Period.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: bob on August 12, 2015, 11:15:49 AM
Second, his podcast videos reek of the entitlement of old school collectors that drives me insane. His podcast on "eBay bots buying up good deals" was basically "I used to be able to get good deals on eBay, but now I can't. Poor little me." Then, he claims these bots are illegal, even though they aren't, at all. Entitlement to lower prices is probably what drives me most batty.
And this is why I seriously dislike you.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: DarkKobold on August 12, 2015, 02:49:53 PM
Second, his podcast videos reek of the entitlement of old school collectors that drives me insane. His podcast on "eBay bots buying up good deals" was basically "I used to be able to get good deals on eBay, but now I can't. Poor little me." Then, he claims these bots are illegal, even though they aren't, at all. Entitlement to lower prices is probably what drives me most batty.
And this is why I seriously dislike you.
When have I ever quoted a 2008 price guide as reflective of today's prices? That is the sort of entitlement I'm talking about. I'm more likely to suggest that prices, while high, are what they are.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: NightWolve on August 12, 2015, 03:12:04 PM
Coincidentally enough, I had just run into a Facebook post today linking a Youtube video by Pat NES Punk dealing with an eBay experiment that was allegedly done to drive up the price of a cheap game. (https://s5.postimg.cc/h6npu4rdz/Pat_NESPunk_Pal_On_Left.png)
The Stalin guy did bring up a good point, Pat's Pal on the Left "seems" to be jerking off while he listens to him. Heh-heh. ;)
Coincidentally enough, I had just run into a Facebook post today linking a Youtube video by Pat NES Punk dealing with an eBay experiment that was allegedly done to drive up the price of a cheap game.
Ebay User Deliberately Drives Up Game Price - #CUPodcast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHk5U8tmfw#) (https://s5.postimg.cc/h6npu4rdz/Pat_NESPunk_Pal_On_Left.png)
The Stalin guy did bring up a good point, Pat's Pal on the Left "seems" to be jerking off while he listens to him. Heh-heh. ;)
Watch from that point and the joke makes sense. :P
Yeah in half the Pat the NES punk videos I've watched Ian is jerking off like that under the table. It's at the point now where I'm thinking is he doing it on purpose?? get people talking??
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: Jibbajaba on August 13, 2015, 04:15:50 AM
Something really trivial that bothers me about the CUPodcast vids - whenever Ian is drinking a beer, he always has the bottle turned so that the label is facing the camera, and he's usually drinking a Ballast Point, which is a local (to him) brewery. Is he being paid, or getting free beer, or something?
Also what the hell is wrong with Pat's nose and/or jaw? He does this weird face yoga shit while he's talking.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: toymachine78 on August 13, 2015, 04:26:07 AM
Something really trivial that bothers me about the CUPodcast vids - whenever Ian is drinking a beer, he always has the bottle turned so that the label is facing the camera, and he's usually drinking a Ballast Point, which is a local (to him) brewery. Is he being paid, or getting free beer, or something?
Also what the hell is wrong with Pat's nose and/or jaw? He does this weird face yoga shit while he's talking.
Lol He must suffer from TMJ. It bugs me though. Another thing that used to drive me crazy on the earlier episodes is how Ian would always be wearing a hoodie with the hood pulled over his head. Looked like some depressed emo douche.
Title: Re: Pat the NES Punk and Super Famicom prices
Post by: Otaking on August 13, 2015, 09:38:52 AM