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Just saw it. I personally loved most of it.
How about you?
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Just saw it. I personally loved most of it.
How about you?
I liked it more the first time I saw it. When it was called Star Wars without "The Force Awakens" attached. I have a lot of spoiler related comments on it. But my very short opinion is that it was entertaining, but I came away disappointed and in ways I didn't expect that I might.
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Hah, Dan, i noticed that as well. I had to think for a while before deciding whether or not to forgive the numerous recycled themes... but in the end, if felt so much more like star wars on other merits that i overlooked the recycled bits. It was 100x better than ep 1-3 and i actually have "a new hope" for this third trilogy.
See, I noticed lazy writing related problems ala the prequels sneaking their way into these movies.
Here comes some spoilers.
First off when the first order lands on the initial planet to look for the map to Luke's whereabouts they clearly made it enough of a priority to land a large number of troops there. Some of which were specialized in sanitation. Slaughter nearly a whole village all to obtain or destroy the map to prevent it from falling into the rebellion's hands. This seems like it's really important. But wait, once they find the guy who knows where the map is, they go back into Space away from the planet rather than stay down there until the map is either obtained or destroyed? What the f*ck is this? This is prequel level bad writing. If it was that important they would have stayed there. This was just used as a plot device to get Finn to break the pilot loose, steal a ship and move the plot in motion.
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Don't discount the power of hubris. Ren had what he believed was a sure-thing "copy" of the map in his possession (as opposed to the opening scene where he had nothing in his possession), and the rebels were kicking his ass. What's to say that the retreat was not a good tactical move given the circumstance?
Also.... this is a new low in my life... debating plausibility of star wars plot points. :(
That was later when he captured Ray/Rey and believed he could extract the memory of the map from her mind via Jedi psychic friends power. I'm talking about the initial scene where he's just looking for where the map data went. He didn't think he could extract it from the pilot. Merely the location of the map, which he found out was in the BB8.
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Me and my son saw it today. Man we loved it. Definitely mops the floor with episodes 1-3. Star Wars is finally back on track film wise. :)
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We're seeing tomorrow, we're dressing up for it, though, it sounds like it's going to rain here tomorrow, so a little worried our costumes will get messed up on the way in & out of car's & buildings & such, especially my wife's pure white Leia outfit with the buns(not to mention we plan on eating with some friends beforehand at Red Robin, don't need any ketchup stains on that outfit!).
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Overall, I definitely liked it. Lots of cool stuff going on in this one. I didn't expect to see it so soon, but I'm glad I did. I may go see it again
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Ohhh yesss.....
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The character I wanted to see more of came across as worthless in the movie, but it was definitely still an enjoyable little distraction for me.
8/10
PS I hope Phasma totally mentions her fun little adventure through garbage chute hell in episode VIII.
<3
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Some of the themes were recycled from the OT, but It's been a 32 years since those films. I was with the popular opinion of not enjoying the prequels and while watching this one I could feel my fanboy heart start to heal.
This was a hard film to pull off, balancing cast and themes of old and new. Its a hard task to please the children of the OT that are now adults while still allowing that 7 year old child to watch the movie and see themselves in the character. Some of my childhood friends have grown up to be very analytical, real world logical, and rigid adults, and I gave them the reminder that Star Wars is a place of wonder, magic, and adventure in sci fi environment. You can't be like, "How does this kid Luke who grew up on a farm, fly a space ship and manage to be the one to destroy the enemy base."
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Loved it! I can't wait to see it again. This was my first time watching a movie in 3D and I found the 3D effects mostly distracting and headache-inducing so I plan on sticking to 2D versions of movies from now on.
Did they film all 3 movies at once? It seems like they've set the series up to backtrack in the next film and lead up to the story that happened in The Force Awakens. Then the third movie could pick up from the end of the Force Awakens and wrap up the this trilogy.
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Loved it too. Of course is a "rereading" of the original movie in its themes, but not forgetting to be a new movie itself (like happened with Superman Returns, so referential that it has no personality) with a lot of nice references and easter eggs. Funny moments, great action sequences and a nice cast, liked a lot the new heroes. I heard some people complaining about Kylo Ren, but I think we'll see what made him that way in the next two movies. About that, I also liked that they let lots of question for VIII and IX, unlike Episode I did in the other trilogy. Things like
[SPOILERS]Rey's heritage, what Luke was doing all this time,how Maz got the lightsaber, how and why Ben was corrupted, who really is Max Von Sydow's character etc.[/SPOILERS]
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I really enjoyed it. Sure it retreads A New Hope, but in the end, I like where they're going. They left a lot of questions unanswered, and I'm eagerly anticipating episode 8.
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I loved it. I only have a few minor nitpicks. #1 is the score. While Star Wars themes were in there it seemed like an overall lackluster effort by J Diddy Williams even compared to the prequels. It was also odd not hearing/seeing the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away..." that I've associated with Star Wars for over 60 years now. At least they didn't have the Disney castle logo animation. Nitpick #2 is the sloppy jump cut when princess Leia is talking in one certain scene. The camera is on her and then mid sentence it jumps forward to being closer to her at a slightly different angle. Now I understand that it probably took Carrie Fisher a great deal of effort to even deliver a single line and they had to cut and paste different takes to make a good one, but they should have cut away to someone else in the room listening for a second to disguise the sloppy-ass jump cut.
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Finally saw it. Loved it.
I found the overall experience very enjoyable with plenty of surprises throughout. Loved the appearances of the old actors too.
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I didn't hold it against the movie because what could they do, but Carrie's years of drugs/alcohol/smoking took their toll. I wonder if they considered modulating her voice and didn't do it from worry of not having her.
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I loved it. I only have a few minor nitpicks. #1 is the score. While Star Wars themes were in there it seemed like an overall lackluster effort by J Diddy Williams even compared to the prequels. It was also odd not hearing/seeing the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away..." that I've associated with Star Wars for over 60 years now. At least they didn't have the Disney castle logo animation. Nitpick #2 is the sloppy jump cut when princess Leia is talking in one certain scene. The camera is on her and then mid sentence it jumps forward to being closer to her at a slightly different angle. Now I understand that it probably took Carrie Fisher a great deal of effort to even deliver a single line and they had to cut and paste different takes to make a good one, but they should have cut away to someone else in the room listening for a second to disguise the sloppy-ass jump cut.
I noticed this as well and it totally bugged me for hours after seeing the movie. I mean it still bugs me that they couldn't have fixed it, but oh well, what can you do? Maybe a little snip-snip will happen before it hits teh Blu-ray.
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30 years later, Stormtroopers still can't hit important targets. They never got Han or Chewie once.
I do need to give one warning, if you have little kids who gets nightmare easily skip this movie or make him/her wear diaper first. Someone had something on the ship that could be described as bastard child of C'thun and Beholder (from AD&D). And not just one but THREE of them. Here's the wookiepedia link: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rathtar (click it if you have seen the film or want to be spoiled)
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Chewie got hit didn't he? I mean, of course he got hit, but wasn't it by a storm trooper? I can't recall for certain.
IIRC he was hit still in their ship running from those guys demanding their money.
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That jump cut totally bugged me too, but I think I brushed it off as my fault for blinking or something, lol. I hate jump cuts since it got so popular with terrible youtube videos. With that, I don't think Carrie Fisher looked that bad.
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Only jumpcut that I noticed that bothered me was when she was when Rey was loading her junk onto her speeder. Still, no complaints about the movie. I agree with Prof, off to a great start!
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Only thing that made me angry was the ending. I've really got to wait to see what happens next...
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If you're in this thread I assume you've disregarded any spoiler warnings, so here goes:
That ending. I love seeing Luke and all. Can't wait for part 8. But she's holding the saber towards him like 'You want dis?" And he's like "I dunno I kinda need to stare at the horizon for a little longer. It's what I do. All these years I've been staring in the wrong direction because I totally missed the Millennium Falcom approaching. I didn't even hear it." and neither can make up their mind what to do. I think it should have ended with that and they should have left the helicopter shot off. It just makes it seem like they stand there motionless for minutes if not hours.
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If you're in this thread I assume you've disregarded any spoiler warnings, so here goes:
That ending. I love seeing Luke and all. Can't wait for part 8. But she's holding the saber towards him like 'You want dis?" And he's like "I dunno I kinda need to stare at the horizon for a little longer. It's what I do. All these years I've been staring in the wrong direction because I totally missed the Millennium Falcom approaching. I didn't even hear it." and neither can make up their mind what to do. I think it should have ended with that and they should have left the helicopter shot off. It just makes it seem like they stand there motionless for minutes if not hours.
He's probably off in his own little world after what happened with Ben. Like super old crazy man status. That or... did you happen to notice the jo crystal he quickly slid into his pocket as he turned around? Totally happened, not making it up at all.
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While we are at it... rey = luke's daughter... no?
I was thinking either that or she's maybe related to Kylo Ren? Brother and sister? There has to be some kind of connection with her and her dad leaving from Jakku. (Or was it the whole family?)
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I hear there's a break out character named TR8-TOR.
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While we are at it... rey = luke's daughter... no?
I was thinking either that or she's maybe related to Kylo Ren? Brother and sister? There has to be some kind of connection with her and her dad leaving from Jakku. (Or was it the whole family?)
Well, her being Luke & Mara's daughter(if they decide to keep Mara Jade in Star Wars cannon), would still make her related to Ben Solo, as they would be cousins. One friend of mine swore up & down that Luke & Mara had a daughter named Rey in the books(which 99% of them aren't cannon anymore), but I looked it up, & there was no Rey Skywalker, though, I think they did have at least one daughter, maybe Rey isn't her real name? As it is, in the books there WAS a Ben Skywalker, son of Luke & Mara, so they kinda switched that around.
What I want to know is, how did Kylo keep that poof of hair from getting helmet hair? Is that one of the tricks of the Force?!?
I'm surprised no one is asking about Supreme Commander Snoke. I totally think he is Darth Plageius http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis/Legends
Most of the stories about him are no longer cannon, but, it totally looks like him! He's briefly mentioned in Revenge of the Sith, & apparently his body is in some kind of giant urn in the movie.
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#1 - WTF is a jo crystal? I'm sure he just put his phone in his pocket really quick since he was looking at porn or something.
#2 - A lot of people have been speculating that Ren and Rey are twins. Twins seem to happen a lot within the force (or so they say) but Han and Leia never spoke of having twins and that's something I think they'd know about. So I don't think they were twins. I personally feel as if she's Luke's daughter but if THAT were true then why did she have a flashback of being kidnapped by Ren when she was little?
Also, are Han and Leia divorced? Or did they just never marry? Also what does Han think about Bravoman?
Snoke is just Gollum nothing more. Even looks the same.
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#1 - WTF is a jo crystal? I'm sure he just put his phone in his pocket really quick since he was looking at porn or something.
#2 - A lot of people have been speculating that Ren and Rey are twins. Twins seem to happen a lot within the force (or so they say) but Han and Leia never spoke of having twins and that's something I think they'd know about. So I don't think they were twins. I personally feel as if she's Luke's daughter but if THAT were true then why did she have a flashback of being kidnapped by Ren when she was little?
Also, are Han and Leia divorced? Or did they just never marry? Also what does Han think about Bravoman?
Snoke is just Gollum nothing more. Even looks the same.
When Rey is having the flashback on Jakku the hand that is holding her back looks like the hand of the guy that distributed the portions played by actor Simon Pegg. Her waiting for her father could be her waiting for Luke, she may not have known his real name as a child.
Its unknown if what she witnesses when she touches the light saber is all a flashback or just parts.
I swore I heard Alec Guiness's voice during this time and it was confirmed that his voice, Yoda's, and Ewen Mcgreggor's voice are in Force Awakens.
*When Star Killer base takes out the Republic, I hope that was also JJ Abrams way of killing of Jar Jar
*If the resistance wants to end this war, take out the storm troopers and the first order, they should just call this guy and his friends"
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They made a little nod to the now defunct Expanded Universe with the plot, but reversing it a little. Ben was the son of Luke and Mara Jade, but Kylo Ren seems more based on Jacen Solo, one of the twins Leia and Han had in the Thrawn trilogy. He falls to the dark side and ends up killing Mara, before being defeated and killed by his sister Jaina, which kind is like Rey - a great pilot, mechanic and force-sensitive/user. I don't think Ben and Rey are twins, though, he might be at his teens when he became Kylo and Rey was left at Jakku at a younger age. They could still be brothers, but probably they are cousins. Luke might have pulled an Obi-Wan here and left his daughter in a lonely planet to hide her from the enemies. If he brought her with him, they would be easier to be "sensed" and located. Let's see how they resolve that.
And I read somewhere that there's a nod to Jar Jar somewhere in the movie, like a bird eating a gungan skull or something. I do remember a bird in the desert, but couldn't see if it was him :lol:
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While we are at it... rey = luke's daughter... no?
heavily implied but perhaps we'll see a plot twist next movie
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Good Read: http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-questions/
SPOILERS WITHIN!
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Honestly though I felt that the whole movie was full of spoilers. Do not see this movie if you don't want it to be spoiled!
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What JOe said!
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Finally saw it today. Overall I quite enjoyed it. My one complaint was the ending. They should have just looked at the map, gotten into the Falcon, blast-off, roll-credits.
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Finally saw it today. Overall I quite enjoyed it. My one complaint was the ending. They should have just looked at the map, gotten into the Falcon, blast-off, roll-credits.
I completely agree. From there they should have landed back on the Resistance base, where John William plays a major number, and Rey and Luke each get a medal from General Organa, while Chewbacca watches...
Edit: The ending was fine. They need to stay there and train. Makes me want to see the next one asap.
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I'm hoping some of the OT characters stay throughout the next few main series films.
I understand this is a new story and a new crew. But it would be good to have 1-2 of the three Chewbacca, C3PO, R2 carry through the films. Also nice to see the Chewbacca character wasn't made into and old wookie.
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I was checking on the actor that played Wedge Antilles but it looks like he was offered a Cameo and declined :(.
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I wanna see Billy Dee Williams. Also, I think Finn is Leia and Lando's love child, because Han is a butt.