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Title: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: technozombie on January 13, 2016, 08:34:51 AM
Anyone seen this yet?


http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/01/classic-game-publisher-cleans-out-its-closet-makes-thousands-on-ebay/
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: BigusSchmuck on January 13, 2016, 08:41:50 AM
Figures the best stuff is still ungodly expensive.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: Jibbajaba on January 13, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
Wonder how much of that is going to get shipped straight off to be VGA graded.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: xelement5x on January 13, 2016, 10:04:05 AM
Haha, that's pretty funny.  For once you could actually say you are still supporting the publisher by buying their old games :P
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: BigusSchmuck on January 13, 2016, 10:04:57 AM
Haha, that's pretty funny.  For once you could actually say you are still supporting the publisher by buying their old games :P
Yeah no kidding. lol
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: Punch on January 13, 2016, 10:20:35 AM
Where are the copies of Dead Moon?
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: Black Tiger on January 13, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
lol, $610 current bid fir Lufia II. Coolectards assemble!

I wonder how many of these SNES games will be gouged for a premium from being "uncirculated" and "direct from Natsume" and will include any recepts or waybills from these initial sales when flipped.
Title: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: esteban on January 13, 2016, 12:00:15 PM
lol, $610 current bid fir Lufia II. Coolectards assemble!

I wonder how many of these SNES games will be gouged for a premium from being "uncirculated" and "direct from Natsume" and will include any recepts or waybills from these initial sales when flipped.

If buyers can get documentation from Natsume, then the item's provenance is established.  And $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I learned something from watching Antique Roadshow.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: EmperorIng on January 13, 2016, 12:22:53 PM
The few times I bought antiques (mainly antique prints/engravings for decoration) I made sure to demand provenance with the sale. One of the things I learned working at an art museum.

I find the item photographs for Natsume's official ebay page charmingly amateur.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: synbiosfan on January 13, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
At least Square Enix sold their back stock for reasonable prices.

It's funny to see Natsume do this. I hope they have cases of Lufia II and take idiots money for months.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: technozombie on January 13, 2016, 12:49:00 PM
It kind of pisses me off because I've wanted pocky and rocky forever and I would love to bust one open and play it, if not for the outrageous price.

This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't pay a shit ton of money for old games because you never know when a warehouse of old stock will show up.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: Medic_wheat on January 13, 2016, 01:13:51 PM
I didn't even know they had an eBay account let alone what they are listed as.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: SamIAm on January 13, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
You guys want to hear something really sad?

Disclaimer: I have absolutely zero proof that this is true.

I was searching for threads on Japanese forums that talked about the PCE, and one guy said that he worked at an NEC warehouse in the mid-90s.

Over 100,000 unsold Duo-RX systems were apparently destroyed.

In the discussion that followed, it was said, and this jives with what I've seen, that big-name manufacturers in Japan never price things super-low to get rid of old stock because it hurts their brand image and threatens whatever their latest products are. That's probably true often enough in the West, as well.

Seriously, though, imagine a big cubic pallet of Duo RX boxes 10 wide, 10 tall, and 10 deep. Then imagine 100 of those. All gone.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: EmperorIng on January 13, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
That's not unlike Gamestop's practice of destroying their old stock of 4th and 5th gen games when the 6th gen was arriving.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: glazball on January 15, 2016, 06:37:54 AM
That's not unlike Gamestop's practice of destroying their old stock of 4th and 5th gen games when the 6th gen was arriving.

Can you provide any links or proof of this?  I find it hard to believe.  What seems more likely is that they would simply take them out of circulation and store them in a warehouse.  Gamestop has done some dumb things but destroying games seems counter-intuitive since they you know, sell games.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: BigusSchmuck on January 15, 2016, 07:39:28 AM
That's not unlike Gamestop's practice of destroying their old stock of 4th and 5th gen games when the 6th gen was arriving.


Can you provide any links or proof of this?  I find it hard to believe.  What seems more likely is that they would simply take them out of circulation and store them in a warehouse.  Gamestop has done some dumb things but destroying games seems counter-intuitive since they you know, sell games.



http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/05/inside-the-secret-world-of-gamestop-dumpster-diving
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: xelement5x on January 15, 2016, 09:08:03 AM
Yeah, there is a guy in my area that does this regularly and trade a ton of cases and stuff into the local retro shop to get stuff he actually wants.  I commend his frugality, but I am not so damn broke I am gonna start going through their trash yet.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: HailingTheThings on January 15, 2016, 09:32:45 AM
That's not unlike Gamestop's practice of destroying their old stock of 4th and 5th gen games when the 6th gen was arriving.

Can you provide any links or proof of this?  I find it hard to believe.  What seems more likely is that they would simply take them out of circulation and store them in a warehouse.  Gamestop has done some dumb things but destroying games seems counter-intuitive since they you know, sell games.

The owner of a "Mom + Pop" game store once told me a tale of his friends dumpster diving at Gamestop locations from the early 2000s and on. Totally confirmed this. Said once they stopped carrying retro games for the second time that they simply threw away tons of NES, SNES and GEN titles. Cases and all.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: technozombie on January 15, 2016, 10:18:43 AM
Looking at the video in the link that is field destroy items. Something that has been returned and its not worth it to the manufacturer or GameStop to ship back. When shitty after market controllers are returned they are always field destroy.  If retro games were thrown out they were likely returned as defective and not deemed worth fixing at the time. I was a GameStop store manager for about 3 yrs. I even managed a Funcoland turned GameStop. When the end of retro games came they went on sale. What didn't sell was returned to corporate, not trashed. I'm sure they wholesaled them after that.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: HailingTheThings on January 15, 2016, 04:15:30 PM
Looking at the video in the link that is field destroy items. Something that has been returned and its not worth it to the manufacturer or GameStop to ship back. When shitty after market controllers are returned they are always field destroy.  If retro games were thrown out they were likely returned as defective and not deemed worth fixing at the time. I was a GameStop store manager for about 3 yrs. I even managed a Funcoland turned GameStop. When the end of retro games came they went on sale. What didn't sell was returned to corporate, not trashed. I'm sure they wholesaled them after that.

This is interesting. Thank you.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: TheOldMan on January 15, 2016, 05:21:32 PM
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I was a GameStop store manager for about 3 yrs.....
When shitty after market controllers are returned they are always field destroy.

My nephew was an assistant manager for about a year. He had to 'field destroy' a nice 17" LCD from one of the promo setups.

Manger insisted he use a hammer.
That really hurt :(
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: Enternal on January 16, 2016, 03:13:03 AM
Some gamestops have started to convert their wii sections to disc only which also like regular ds means a bunch of case and manuals headed to the garbage.

I manage to hit up gamestop here when they got rid of their 16 bit games. Got Super Mario RPG, Super Metroid and Inindo Complete.

About 4 years ago when they got rid of their PS2 games I brought just over 100 games (no sports) Disc Only :( for a dollar a piece.

Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: technozombie on January 16, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
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I was a GameStop store manager for about 3 yrs.....
When shitty after market controllers are returned they are always field destroy.

My nephew was an assistant manager for about a year. He had to 'field destroy' a nice 17" LCD from one of the promo setups.

Manger insisted he use a hammer.
That really hurt :(
I once had a district manager who would  just call us and give us his password so he didn't have to come do the field destroy like he was supposed to. Anyways, a manager in a nearby store moved a bunch of PC games to defective( PC was always field destroy) anyways they sat in the back for awhile until the DM called and gave his password then the guy just brought them home.
Title: Re: Natsume selling old new stock
Post by: wilykat on January 16, 2016, 09:23:15 AM
Many years ago, before Gamestop sucked up Funcoland like a cheap hooker sucks up John's wiener, Funcoland at one time bought and sold used VHS tapes.  It was right when DVD first came out and in a few years, DVD started taking over video market and people were dumping VHS at garage sales and boot sale for a dollar a pop. Funcoland stopped buying tapes and their stock just vanished.

I can't believe every Funcoland shipped thousands of used tapes to store in warehouses.  Storing worthless stuff for 15 years is costly, they probably had it smashed or something then tossed in dumpster for tax write off.