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Title: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 19, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
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If you think I just put a PC engine inside here then guess again.

I hacked a DUO motherboard in half!

Why would I do that you say? I have no idea. I always wondered what it would look like since the DUO casing always looked to me as if two halves of a system were thrown together.

The original DUO had so many problems it was not worth fixing them. Someone prior to me receiving this broken DUO had tried to repair a bunch of stuff and mucked it all up. Not to mention the original case had melted warped/burn marks all over it. I was able to cut the bad parts of the casing out. I was hoping to leave the text that says pad on the controller port hole but things didn't line up well case wise to where I could keep it. I wanted the cut in the casing to not be noticeable from up above and that part turned out great.

Also, I feel I should mention that even prior to me lopping the motherboard in half, a turbo everdrive would not work. No clue why. Checked the connection to all the hu card pins and all seemed fine. So I wanted to install a nice looking region switch instead, but the board would not work with any chip based region switch I tried either. I tested two styles that I normally use but neither would work.

Anyways, because of this I went with an older style 8pdt switch for the region switch and it works great. I've tried at least 20 hu cards on it so far with no issues whatsoever. I had to mount it just above the hu card slot due to lack of space.

Not sure if I'll ever do this again because it was a lot of work. I had to re wire/solder up parts of the controller port due to lack of size and how small I wanted to cut down the original board. It was also very difficult to cut down the casing the way I wanted in order to line up screws holes/shape etc...
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Gredler on January 19, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aRSQ7co.gif)


Looks awesomely sick, so clean and professional. Nice job!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: johnnykonami on January 19, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
Wow!  Maybe a bit more like what the US version of the PCE shoulda been than what we got.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 19, 2016, 02:32:04 PM
Show us the inside.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: elmer on January 19, 2016, 02:41:48 PM
That's such a beautiful, beautiful hack ... I'm totally jealous of your skills!  :D
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: jtucci31 on January 19, 2016, 03:06:18 PM
Now you just need to shave off the part where it says "Super CDROM" and "DUO" and have "UNO" printed on there :lol:

Looks really cool! Well done. I, too, would like to see the inside.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: ginoscope on January 19, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
That is really awesome at first I thought it was a joke because it looked so well done. 
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: thesteve on January 19, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
is that the sawed in half board you sent me as parts and i pulled the cut chips off it and it ran?
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: blueraven on January 19, 2016, 03:59:56 PM
Goddamn. That is badass.

Nice job on shortening it, I like how you kept the lines and didn't hack the thing to pieces! looks like it was put together well...

Question... is it the guts from a SuperCDROM2 inside the case?

This is the f*cking most awesome thing i will see this year.

You won!

Seriously!

Yes.  :clap:
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: crazydean on January 19, 2016, 04:17:15 PM
Very nice! You did a good job keeping the lines right on it. What do you plan to do with it now that it works?
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: johnnykonami on January 19, 2016, 04:17:37 PM
Now that I'm thinking about it, shouldn't it be more like the Turbo Solo?
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Gentlegamer on January 19, 2016, 04:18:16 PM
Bueno!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 19, 2016, 05:08:13 PM
Does it have saveram?

unfortunately no save RAM. The only way that would have been possible is if i had made the case much larger then it is. it would have ended up looking like a three-quarter inch size duo system. The shaping would have looked horrible because part of the CD Drive side would still have to exist(case wise)
I was trying to go for something that would have looked as streamline /stock looking as possible.

also, before I hacked the board in half, I was only able to access the system memory bank 50% of the time. So there was something really messed up trace wise in that section of the board as well. So no big loss.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: NightWolve on January 19, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aRSQ7co.gif)
Looks awesomely sick, so clean and professional. Nice job!

I'll raise you! ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/THxFyv7.jpg)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Groover on January 19, 2016, 05:33:02 PM
It looks good. It really does remind me of a CoreGrafx with a CD-ROM2. I would like to see it with the duo door.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 19, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
It looks good. It really does remind me of a CoreGrafx with a CD-ROM2. I would like to see it with the duo door.


(http://s24.postimg.org/puznbign5/CIMG8719.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/puznbign5/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/xp4uandtt/CIMG8720.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xp4uandtt/)

The hu card cover will not open and close well because of where I had to place the region switch. However, I'm sure I could file a small notch out of the the cover for it to work if need be. I just planned on using it without one. If the system would have worked with a chip based region switch then it wouldn't be an issue, since the switch would have been on the back instead.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 19, 2016, 06:28:15 PM
is that the sawed in half board you sent me as parts and i pulled the cut chips off it and it ran?

No it isn't, but it's what gave me the idea.

Very nice! You did a good job keeping the lines right on it. What do you plan to do with it now that it works?

I have no idea. I just wanted to see if it would work and what it would look like when finished. Maybe I'll use it as a system to take over to friends houses?
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Scillianaire on January 19, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
This hurts my brain
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Vimtoman on January 19, 2016, 09:08:49 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Ergot_Cholera on January 19, 2016, 09:54:19 PM
The long narrow shape looks like that of a Super CD-ROM² and Core Grafx II if they were combined into one.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: esadajr on January 19, 2016, 10:58:05 PM
Damn! that looks nice. Just when I thought I saw everything. Could easily pass as a "rare" NEC prototype.

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Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Jason_dicarlo85 on January 19, 2016, 11:05:02 PM
Holly shit Keith ... Wow amazing work
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: GoldenWheels on January 19, 2016, 11:25:15 PM
Wow...very cool. I kind of blinked when I saw the pics the first time. "huh?"
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: reno5 on January 20, 2016, 12:09:19 AM
Looks really good. Wish i could do the same to mine !
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: wilykat on January 20, 2016, 01:24:50 AM
Damn nice job!!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Necromancer on January 20, 2016, 01:38:26 AM
Nice clean looking work, man.  Well done.  :clap:

I'd chop up the door to fit, though, as it looks a bit unfinished without it.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Dicer on January 20, 2016, 01:38:44 AM
Now you just need to shave off the part where it says "Super CDROM" and "DUO" and have "UNO" printed on there :lol:

Looks really cool! Well done. I, too, would like to see the inside.


This...

Open that f*cker up, stop teasing

Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: mickcris on January 20, 2016, 01:53:25 AM
Looks great!  I dont know how you got the cuts so clean.  Would have looked like crap had i tried to do something like that. :)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: ActionJackson on January 20, 2016, 02:20:32 AM
Sorry if this is a dumb question but is this literally running while missing chips/pieces of the mobo?  Did you compensate for that in some way or are there sections of board that just aren't needed?  Anyway, looks badass and professional so cheers on creativity and job well done. 
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: KingDrool on January 20, 2016, 02:26:04 AM
That is the absolute coolest thing ever. I like the design of the Duo, but that is so much better. Amazing work!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Corredor X on January 20, 2016, 02:55:06 AM
That's a work of art, that should be the way the console was released back then.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Black Tiger on January 20, 2016, 03:51:55 AM
This is an amazing work of art! Reminds me of those WideCards people like to photoshop.

I'd love to see stand alone Super CD uno which only plays CD games. :)

Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Enternal on January 20, 2016, 04:18:50 AM
At the start of my scrolling I was thinking "wtf is this, some sort of rare prototype?"  Show us the inside :)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: grendelrt on January 20, 2016, 05:42:01 AM
Wow this is nuts,  I am surprised you were able to get everything working with one half the motherboard.  Super props are due.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Desh on January 20, 2016, 05:45:26 AM
Very cool mod.  The finished product looks amazing!  I concur that it looks "cooler" with the Hucard door in place.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: jelloslug on January 20, 2016, 06:13:26 AM
I could 3D print a case like that...
Title: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: esteban on January 20, 2016, 08:53:49 AM
A match made in heaven:

 (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/mm_fun.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.org/la39raig1/CIMG8708.jpg)
(http://postimg.org/image/45lyomajh/)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: HailingTheThings on January 20, 2016, 09:00:36 AM
Does it have saveram?


unfortunately no save RAM.


Maybe next time. (There's a joke somewhere in there, I promise.)

(http://i.imgur.com/qaJSRFy.png)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 20, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
I didn't have to do much at all to have everything work other than solder in some wires for the controller port. Everything else just works as is. The difficult part was all the cutting done for the casing and board to get everything lined up just right. I used a mix of Hot glue in some areas and two part epoxy in others to hold the case together. After using a file to create a notch in the motherboard I was also able to get 4 screw holes to line up nicely.

And yes, I cut right through a bunch of unneeded chips that were most likely bad anyways. I felt like being destructive.

Here are some pics of the inside. A little difficult to get good pics cause of how the region switch is wired/glued in now.

(http://s24.postimg.org/bnqwwdo8h/CIMG8731.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bnqwwdo8h/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/7dc90sj5d/CIMG8732.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7dc90sj5d/)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: seieienbu on January 20, 2016, 09:23:35 AM
...this is why today was a good day to internet.  That's incredible; I'm especially impressed with the plastic-work for lack of a better term.  It looks very clean.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: wilykat on January 20, 2016, 11:22:41 AM
Sorry if this is a dumb question but is this literally running while missing chips/pieces of the mobo?  Did you compensate for that in some way or are there sections of board that just aren't needed?  Anyway, looks badass and professional so cheers on creativity and job well done. 

Duo is basically PC Engine with CD system and System 3.0 married in one.  If you know which chips to keep and can check the traces, it is possible to cut out the CD specific section and leave the core system intact so it'd be basically Coregrafx board in a Duo shell.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: SephirothTNH on January 20, 2016, 12:54:34 PM
...since the DUO casing always looked to me as if two halves of a system were thrown together.

Yeah I see that.  I've always thought the duo design was heavily inspired by the briefcase set up.

Great work. Really nice case work.  Now make it glossy like Ninja16608's.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: martinine on January 20, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
Absolutely incredible! I really like the Keith Courage Huey in there! Is heat an issue in the ltight space?
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: wilykat on January 20, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
Absolutely incredible! I really like the Keith Courage Huey in there! Is heat an issue in the ltight space?

Depends, have any report of white PCE or Coregrafx overheating or melting?  KC's hack is basically this and shouldn't have any issue.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 20, 2016, 02:35:07 PM
Absolutely incredible! I really like the Keith Courage Huey in there! Is heat an issue in the ltight space?

I don't really see it being an issue but I guess only time will tell.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: NightWolve on January 20, 2016, 02:43:19 PM
(https://s24.postimg.cc/7dc90sj5d/CIMG8732.jpg)
There we go, we got another "hot glue cowboy" splattering it all over the place! ;)

Wow though, quite a risk/bet to have pressed on believing you could still get it to work after sawing it in half and attempting to reconnect back every trace!

About how long did this take you figure ??
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: incrediblehark on January 20, 2016, 02:51:00 PM
I'm in for the raffle! :P

Seriously though this looks amazing! Especially impressed with how clean and stock it appears to be, even on the inside. Nice work!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 20, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
(http://s24.postimg.org/7dc90sj5d/CIMG8732.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7dc90sj5d/)

There we go, we got another "hot glue cowboy" splattering it all over the place! ;)

Wow though, quite a risk/bet to have pressed on believing you could still get it to work after sawing it in half and attempting to reconnect back every trace!

About how long did this take you figure ??


I didn't have to reconnect a bunch of traces on the motherboard. Just three or four for the controller port.

other than that it was good to go after cutting it up.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: mickcris on January 20, 2016, 03:22:55 PM
Absolutely incredible! I really like the Keith Courage Huey in there! Is heat an issue in the ltight space?

I don't really see it being an issue but I guess only time will tell.

I'm guessing but probably one of the 7805s is for the cd side. You might be able to remove one and have less heat.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Bonknuts on January 20, 2016, 03:59:42 PM
Genius!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: o.pwuaioc on January 20, 2016, 07:06:03 PM
Got nothing to add but I'm seriously impressed. Very professionally done!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: MotherGunner on January 21, 2016, 04:47:53 AM
How did I miss this?  I seriously thought we were being trolled with some elaborate photoshop work.  GD this is awesome!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: wilykat on January 21, 2016, 08:27:09 AM
Absolutely incredible! I really like the Keith Courage Huey in there! Is heat an issue in the ltight space?

I don't really see it being an issue but I guess only time will tell.

I'm guessing but probably one of the 7805s is for the cd side. You might be able to remove one and have less heat.

If the 7805 are in parallel, they are only running half of load each and with both, it would be less heat than just one.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Duo_R on January 21, 2016, 08:31:56 AM
Seriously awesome, bravo!!!!!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Groover on January 21, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
It looks good. It really does remind me of a CoreGrafx with a CD-ROM2. I would like to see it with the duo door.


(http://s24.postimg.org/puznbign5/CIMG8719.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/puznbign5/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/xp4uandtt/CIMG8720.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xp4uandtt/)

The hu card cover will not open and close well because of where I had to place the region switch. However, I'm sure I could file a small notch out of the the cover for it to work if need be. I just planned on using it without one. If the system would have worked with a chip based region switch then it wouldn't be an issue, since the switch would have been on the back instead.


Keith, That looks great. Thanks for sending up the new pictures with the door. UNO prefect name.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: xelement5x on January 22, 2016, 04:35:46 AM
Wow, this is pretty epic!  You have a great eye for the case design as well, it's looks amazing!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: dallaspattern on January 22, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Booya! Nice one :)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: ProfessorProfessorson on January 22, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
These are the kinda threads that just go to show why this is the best PCE/TG community. The creative talent pool on this forum far surpasses most other classic game related forums.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: bazset on January 24, 2016, 12:45:07 AM
This is amazing man! Wish you had made a tutorial

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Title: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: esteban on January 24, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
This is amazing man! Wish you had made a tutorial

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(1) acquire hardware that cannot be salvaged
(2) attempt to save the hardware anyway, because you enjoy the challenge and have skills
(3) KEEP TRYING #2
(4) Enjoy two servings of flan with coffee.
(5) UNO
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Keith Courage on January 24, 2016, 08:22:37 PM
If I attempt this again in the future I'll make a tutorial. I bet come spring or summer time I will. Depends on how bad I want to smell grounded up motherboard debris and burning plastic again. I used an angle grinder with a metal cutting disc to get the cuts smooth instead of jagged.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: wilykat on January 25, 2016, 11:34:31 AM
Hope you had mask on! Those dust from PCB can contain glass and they will permanently irritate your lungs.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: waynedoodle on January 25, 2016, 02:21:21 PM
WOW.  Talk about appalying a passion to make something unbelievable.  Great job Keith.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Bonknuts on January 26, 2016, 05:21:25 AM
I have a Duo that's missing the CD drive. This would a be perfect project for it. Do I have skills, though? Hmm
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on January 26, 2016, 06:40:52 AM
This is terrific!  Way to go!  I would love to see it in action.  :)
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on January 26, 2016, 03:52:13 PM
man, imagine if the turbografx looked like that, it would have been an awesome looking system!

great work! looks badass!
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: Sparky on January 27, 2016, 04:19:09 AM
These are the kinda threads that just go to show why this is the best PCE/TG community. The creative talent pool on this forum far surpasses most other classic game related forums.

ya man, the only place i spend most of my time when i am on line, with or without wine :P
Edit: that mini-me duo looks sweet.
Title: Re: Behold! The PC Engine Turbo UNO!
Post by: csgx1 on January 28, 2016, 11:59:33 AM
Nice work, that's awesome  When I first glanced at the pic I thought it was photo-shopped.

Very creative way to transform broken to badass.