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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: bob on May 20, 2016, 05:55:53 AM
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You know, sellers are often given quite a hard time for asking stupid prices for TG/PCE stuff.
I think it's about time to start a thread to laugh at the dumb buyers that actually way overpay for this stuff. These people deserve just as much hazing as the sellers trying to gouge. There is no shortage, so I will start with just a few links. Please add on when you see craziness.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dynastic-Hero-Turbografx-16-TurboDuo-super-CD-USA-Version-TG16-game-/301905017246?hash=item464af0f99e:g:aj0AAOSwMORW8DT4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-AIR-ZONK-ROCKABILLY-PARADISE-TURBOGRAFX-16-ULTRA-RARE-/282033062468?hash=item41aa7b0244:g:vW4AAOSwcL5XMS6D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMP-CALIFORNIA-TURBOGRAFX-16-ULTRA-RARE-FEATURING-BEACH-BOYS-MUSIC-/282033079603?hash=item41aa7b4533:g:0aoAAOSwxVpXMTQy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGEND-OF-HERO-TONMA-TURBOGRAFX-16-Turbo-Duo-HUCARD-/141927638728?hash=item210b8be6c8:g:HE8AAOSwP~tW5Au9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGEND-OF-HERO-TONMA-TURBOGRAFX-16-Turbo-Duo-HUCARD-/141927638728?hash=item210b8be6c8:g:HE8AAOSwP~tW5Au9http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx16-17-Piece-Lot-/262296957864?hash=item3d121df3a8%3Ag%3AvuEAAOSwUuFWxibE&nma=true&si=CzWBXKd7iiM9ZSbzhmmFqYHtTL8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legend-Of-Hero-Tonma-Turbografx-Turbo-Duo-Hucard-And-Manual-/262366960593?hash=item3d164a1bd1:g:cQAAAOSw9KpXAMoW
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboExpress-TurboGrafx-16-Handheld-System-with-Original-Box-/252381789875?hash=item3ac3207eb3:g:qx8AAOSw3mpXLgMA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboGrafx-16-Super-System-Card-Ver-3-0-US-VERSION-VERY-RARE-Complete-CIB-/301633329458?hash=item463abf5932:g:CoMAAOSweW5VVTmt
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-Turbografx-TG16-System-Console-COMPLETE-IN-BOX-TESTED-/162029507975?hash=item25b9b61587:g:n-UAAOSwjwlXBCL7
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The problem with overbid sold items is we never know if a legit buyer actually went through with the purchase.
Might as well add bithead1000's two PCE haul videos. He goes on and on about how he has no idea what anything is worth or if the games are any good, but pays 50% - 400% the average selling price for games to have them in good condition.
Then complains that packages from Japan take 2 or 3 months to arrive. Because he's gullible enough to pay $700 for Sapphire, but then opts for uninsured SAL shipping to save a few dollars.
Super Air Zonk at least began selling for that much on occasion maybe 5 years ago. Back then Legend of Hero Tonma was only beginning to fetch as much as $100. Those Tonma links you posted are the most overpriced Turbo sales I've ever seen.
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I hear ya. Maybe they "sold", maybe they didn't. But it's still fun to point and laugh.
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I'd pay $100 for a Tonma but not $500. Funk dat!
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there was a dead moon complete that sold for something stupid like $350+ a few weeks ago.
But it seems the listing is no longer under the sold items. I hope THAT one wasn't paid for.
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It helps if these fake sales at least get removed from the history from time to time. Not tgat clueless buyers and sellers actually pay attention to actual Sold listings.
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I'm still amazed eBay even offers that information. They're the ones that benefit most from the ignorance.
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Speaking of dumb buyers.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/876c/7c76z5ny788uu6s4g.jpg)
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LOL @ that $399 super system 3 card.
At least the Super Air Zonk cd bid started at $50. The whole thing is crazy. I remember nobody wanted this shit back then. No one cared except the few loyal turbo fans. It was all Sega and SNES then. Now "oh I've never head of these games so extremely rare!" I can't believe what Camp California goes for. I didn't want that game back in the day and I still don't want it. You know Amazon is even a crazier place than ebay for stupid f*cking prices on Turbo stuff. Probably same sellers as well. Do people really pay for these prices to play or is it mostly for the circle jerk?
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LOL @ that $399 super system 3 card.
At least the Super Air Zonk cd bid started at $50. The whole thing is crazy. I remember nobody wanted this shit back then. No one cared except the few loyal turbo fans. It was all Sega and SNES then. Now "oh I've never head of these games so extremely rare!" I can't believe what Camp California goes for. I didn't want that game back in the day and I still don't want it. You know Amazon is even a crazier place than ebay for stupid f*cking prices on Turbo stuff. Probably same sellers as well. Do people really pay for these prices to play or is it mostly for the circle jerk?
You know no one is paying those prices to actually play. If there was no alternative to playing on real hardware I could maybe understand but this is all trophies. I like playing my stuff and having copies of the game if it makes sense.
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Greed is pandemic.
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
That game is getting ridiculous. There's another one posted for $199. What a turd that game is.
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
That game is getting ridiculous. There's another one posted for $199. What a turd that game is.
I think its fun... :(
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High prices are where they are due to a surge in popularity. If you want a title, your pretty much going to have to pay what the current market demands. Yeah, you could spend a year hitting every garage sale in your state looking for that elusive stash of TG16 items or you can wait about a decade for the popularity and interest to wane to get a great price on a popular title. If you are trying to build a TG16 library at the moment, you are going to have to pay. Is it "dumb" to pay the current inflated prices? Yeah. But how often do we all spend large sums of money on luxury items?
Now, if someone here wants to be a trend setter and break the cycle of high TG16 software prices, I would be happy to
purchase CIC Neutopia and Neutopia II from you for about $30 each.
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Now, if someone here wants to be a trend setter and break the cycle of high TG16 software prices, I would be happy to
purchase CIC Neutopia and Neutopia II from you for about $30 each.
If it wasnt for all the dumb buyers over last couple years, i am sure you could get them.
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I think I paid $40 for CIC Neutopia last year.
Galam, you seem to be searching for the games that were infamous for stupid prices years ago. Dumb buyers are now bidding up the most common Turbo games to ridiculous prices.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collection-Sale-Ninja-Spirit-TurboGrafx-16-1990-PC-Engine-HuCard-/172199063231?hash=item2817dd2ebf:g:Lx8AAOSwSclXL~Pc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aero-Blasters-TurboGrafx-16-COMPLETE-WITH-GAME-CASE-AND-MANUAL-/161966946304?hash=item25b5fb7800:g:OmkAAOSw--1WsT49
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOMBERMAN-TURBOGRAFX-TURBO-Duo-Turboexpress-CIC-TG-16-TGX-PC-Engine-Duo-R-RX-/121341958534?hash=item1c408b5986:g:70EAAOSwrklVPYgr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/R-Type-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-16-Complete-Tested-/281933585515?hash=item41a48d1c6b:g:zvMAAOSwG-1WvUWf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neutopia-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Duo-Turboexpress-TGX-TG-16-PC-Engine-Duo-R-RX-/121827435357?hash=item1c5d7b235d:g:nwAAAOSwnipWWyyp
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dungeons-Dragons-Order-of-the-Griffon-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-duo-Turboexpress-TGX-/121929307002?hash=item1c638d937a:g:KwwAAOSwrklVNwMN
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Situation is getting out of hand. Those import adapters are worth their weight in gold. I recently aquired the whole trilogy of Bomberman games on PC Engine for less than what it costs to buy the first one US. I wish I'd gotten Neutopia last year though before it spiked. I don't do JRPGs, but thanks to Turbokan, I will have a Neutopia 2-in-1 repro headed my way. I got outbid a couple days ago on a Neutopia CIC which will be ending in a few minutes. There was also an 89.99 BIN that sold the other day but the Neutopia is currently bidding at $96. If t gets sniped for stupid money, I'll post the link to the completed auction. And another one ending sometime tomorrow. We'll see what happens but the situation is getting crazy...
Edit: Sold for $102.50 in the final seconds.
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Situation is getting out of hand. Those import adapters are worth their weight in gold. I recently aquired the whole trilogy of Bomberman games on PC Engine for less than what it costs to buy the first one US. I wish I'd gotten Neutopia last year though before it spiked. I don't do JRPGs, but thanks to Turbokan, I will have a Neutopia 2-in-1 repro headed my way. I got outbid a couple days ago on a Neutopia CIC which will be ending in a few minutes. There was also an 89.99 BIN that sold the other day but the Neutopia is currently bidding at $96. If t gets sniped for stupid money, I'll post the link to the completed auction. And another one ending sometime tomorrow. We'll see what happens but the situation is getting crazy...
Edit: Sold for $102.50 in the final seconds.
Ok, I am so out-of-touch with prices now.
Neutopia sells for $102...
WHEN WILL KEITH COURAGE FETCH THESE PRICES?
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Ok, I am so out-of-touch with prices now.
Neutopia sells for $102...
WHEN WILL KEITH COURAGE FETCH THESE PRICES?
Word. eBay prices on Turbo goods are accelerating faster than even pricecharting can keep up with them all...
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Keith Courage sold for $40 shipped (not including GSP cystoms charges):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Courage-in-Alpha-Zones-TurboGrafx-16-1989-/171174675207?hash=item27dace4307:g:LoIAAOxyDEVSatRh
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Keith Courage sold for $40 shipped (not including GSP cystoms charges):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Courage-in-Alpha-Zones-TurboGrafx-16-1989-/171174675207?hash=item27dace4307:g:LoIAAOxyDEVSatRh
That's $25. I think you mean this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Courage-in-Alpha-Zones-BRAND-NEW-FACTORY-SEALED-TurboGrafx-16-turbo-tg16-/111944572107
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I got both Neutopias for under a hundred last year on this site. Deals seem to be harder to come by these days as there are way more people trying to snatch up what seems to be fewer sales but they do occur.
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Keith Courage sold for $40 shipped (not including GSP cystoms charges):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Courage-in-Alpha-Zones-TurboGrafx-16-1989-/171174675207?hash=item27dace4307:g:LoIAAOxyDEVSatRh
That's $25. I think you mean this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Courage-in-Alpha-Zones-BRAND-NEW-FACTORY-SEALED-TurboGrafx-16-turbo-tg16-/111944572107
It has the GSP for $15+.
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Vasteel bid up to $661:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-VASTEEL-SCD-Sealed-Excellent-Condition-/201539303498?hash=item2eecadb84a:g:FxIAAOSwYlJW4hBL
Remember when some of the few genuinely rare Turbo games got as high as $400 and Dynastic Hero began to sell as high as $800, but Vasteel was still a $40 game?
Exile WP with 2 bids ended at $761:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-EXILE-WICKED-PHENOMENOM-SCD-Sealed-Excellent-Condition-/191827031438?hash=item2ca9c8358e:g:ZYgAAOSwxp9W8RcV
Why did these/this collectard(s) pay several times the "going rate" for these two games? For the cardboard sleeves of course. At least Vic didn't give them disc art variants. This is the kind of crap pro-collectards keep demanding from homebrew games and bootlegs.
Exile for $120:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboGrafx-CD-16-TG16-Exile-BRAND-NEW-FACTORY-SEALED-/252325175498?hash=item3abfc0a0ca:g:DDcAAOSwMORW7P51
One of the most common and overprinted Turbo games sold with a BIN by our good pal drorangejuicer. To his credit, he offered the next copy off his stack a couple weeks later for $20 less.
For years a seller tried to sell off the old stock of sealed Exile and CF2 copies for what, $15 on eBay? But they still couldn't find enough buyers and a flipper wound up buying the entire stock to sit on them at a higher price. But nothing close to this.
13 copies of CIC Parsol Stars have sold for a BIN price of $140:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-The-Story-of-Bubble-Bobble-III-TurboGrafx-Turbo-Duo-Turboexpress-/321560640033?hash=item4ade81fa21:g:ScsAAOSw-jhUDo~f
Hurry up before the last one gets sold!
CIB Cadash $260:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-CADASH-complete-Excellent-Condition-/191821147861?hash=item2ca96e6ed5:g:5fMAAOSwAuNW3OeQ
CIC Cadash $135:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadash-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Duo-Turboexpress-TGX-CIC-TG-16-PC-ENGINE-DUO-R-RX-/322016597899?hash=item4af9af578b:g:Qs4AAOSwUV9WnId6
Sold by the Official TurboGrafx-16 Authorized Distributor turbozonedirect1.
The last two show how even at the top end for CIC and CIB, by far the most valuable part of a video game is the disposable box. People are paying more for the outer box than everything else combined. Just for the privilege of experiencing what those few of us who gave a crap about TG-16 bitd got to do: tear it open and throw it in the trash.
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WTH? I may sell my collection and retire in Florida.
As soon as gunboat hits sought after status, I'm flipping that turd.
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I thought I had an awesome deal on Ys Books 1 & 2, Duo edition yesterday, I was winning around $40, but it jumped to $76 at the last second. Sniped. I lost.
$76 is still a decent price as far as eBay goes for this disc, but I thought I was getting away with it...
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/141993222145
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I feel like the Working Designs stuff is a bubble within a bubble to be honest. Even their less spectacular releases get a general bump in price just because they were put out by Vic.
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I thought I had an awesome deal on Ys Books 1 & 2, Duo edition yesterday, I was winning around $40, but it jumped to $76 at the last second. Sniped. I lost.
$76 is still a decent price as far as eBay goes for this disc, but I thought I was getting away with it...
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/141993222145
The "Duo" edition is incomplete and has an ugly disc label. The jewel case has no tray liner/insert. The proper full edition sells CIC on eBay for less than that.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TurboGrafx-CD-1990-w-case-and-manual-/201532630173?hash=item2eec47e49d:g:ZdgAAOSwQYZW1Qw2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-Turbo-Duo-Turbografx-16-CD-TG-16-FAST-Shipping-/172148703994?hash=item2814dcc2fa%3Ag%3AyEoAAOSwAvJW-AvI&nma=true&si=cjCIdXCP2ntoEdcfSXHWW3IYpA0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TurboGrafx-CD-1990-Rare-Turbo-Duo-PC-Engine-/172198454831?hash=item2817d3e62f:g:Vj4AAOSwShJXL0Kh
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TURBO-GRAFX-DUO-16-CD-USA-jewel-case-instruction-manual-/322068127062?hash=item4afcc19d56:g:ThAAAOSwsN9XCDLI
The Duo version is only worth buying super cheap as a functional copy or as a superfluous collectible, after you already have the full version.
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The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
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The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.
The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.
This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/yss.jpg)
It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.
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But it matches Final Zone 2 and Valis 2..... :lol:
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It came from the desert is the best looking disk. 😊
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The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.
The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.
This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.
(http://superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/yss.jpg)
It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.
I think the top disc looks nicer. Wish we could see the whole thing.
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Wish we could see the whole thing.
The rest is as generic as the Duo pack-in: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~bQAAOSwubRXNiz1/s-l1600.jpg
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Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.
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If you must have legitimate discs buy the jp ones and burn the English to play. The art on Ys III jp is quite nice. It's also the easiest to play through with the language barrier. My jp is very basic, I don't know any kanji but I could muddle through some menus and just watched a YouTube video for anything I needed translated like essential text or spoken parts.
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Sometimes you can muddle through Japanese menus, but occasionally you pull a boner like deleting the save file or something. #-o
A big part of RPG/Adventure games is the story line, which is lost if you can't read. Also NPC players tend to drop subtle clues as to what you are supposed to do in game, and if you can't read it, how will you know? It's why I'll never play the Japanese equivalent of games like Neutopia or Ys.
However platformers, SHMUPs, puzzlers, and fighters generally play fine without any knowledge of Japanese. Stuff like Bomberman is just as enjoyable in Japanese as it is in English for instance. Many Famicom, Super Famicom, and PC Engine games actually have menus that are at least partially in English so are import friendly.
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Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.
Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet. I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc. I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release. The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway! Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.
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Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.
Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet. I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc. I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release. The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway! Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.
I've noticed it too with like Game Cube Releases. Those earlier discs made in Japan would often be screen printed with two or three colors, then the Player's Choice variants came out with full color images. Screen printing can look really nice if done correctly, even with limited pallet.
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I really don't like that kind of thick coating that Lords of the Rising Sun, It Came From The Desrt, CF2, Vasteel, etc used.
If anything other than the original Turbo disc style was going to be done, they should have had stylized full color silk screens like Sidearms Special and Super Darius, which were my first CD games.
When I bought my first thick cover disc game (Lords of the Rising Sun?), I actually felt like I got less of a value and was thankful that it wouldn't be visible while playing the game
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
I felt like a major a$$hole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
I felt like a major a$$hole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...
You shouldn't feel bad. If you post an auction with a reasonably low starting bid, and the collectards get into a bidding frenzy and jack the price up beyond what most BINs are asking, you can't much blame yourself if it goes for more than it's worth.
I'm still kicking myself for not buying Neutopia last year for $60 BIN. Now that I've got a PC-Henshin (glad I ordered it when they were still 44 Brittish Pounds each) I've started buying up the games I really want to play as imports. Neutopia is one of the few games on my radar that's not import friendly. But I preordered the 2-in-1 repro from Turbokon with a clear conscience because I know it can't be mistaken for an original. Also getting a slick white Magical Chase! :dance:
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It seems like all the non-common games will eventually be $100 at this rate.
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Well, as long as all these f*cking noobs keep showing up. Yeah. There are probably more noobs this year alone than there were in the entire TG-16 user base back in the day. Many TG-16 games used to just...sit there at the store, for months or years, and eventually go back to the main warehouse after never selling. You know, like any catagory of software in existence.
We have to get these kids laid, guys. It's the the only way to stem the tide. Also, your own kids. Tell them you love them and try to instill some kind of value system in your sons so that they don't all end up seaking external validation through a $6000 chip of plastic that smells like a library basement but only if you remove the plastic.
Seriously, what kind of 22 year old in 2016 starts buying games older than him for hundreds of dollars each? What is even the draw for someone like that? And why can't he just collect 8 Track? It has a much better software selection.
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Yes! This so much Zeta!
Back to my Ys discussion earlier, I totally agree that the Duo pack in is at least less appealing because the lack of tray art. It still felt that $40-50 is a good value for either version of the game. I've never been able to find one or win an auction I was willing to pay. Awesome game! One of my all time favs, but I've only been able to play it emulated since I never had a CD drive when I was a kid. My bud had a Duo so I got the dreaded watch on Ys.
Speaking of watching your friends play games That was always the worst when I was a kid, now it's such a hit on YouTube. Surreal.
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Thereseems to be no shortage of stupid buyers, and it keeps increasing at an alarming rate. What do you really expect when retro is "hip" now and ebay has "now trending" prices. 2011 prices and hell even a year or two ago look massively better than nowadays. Who knows if this bubble will ever burst.
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I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all. I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system. I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them. For now. I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day. I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks. Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks. I really dont get it at all. Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.
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I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all. I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system. I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them. For now. I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day. I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks. Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks. I really dont get it at all. Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.
Yeah it sucks. A lot of the price inflation is caused by poser collectors who want to collect a "complete set" or otherwise buy nice games just to have them as "shelf sitters" Kinda dumb if you ask me but at least if people think they have value, it won't go into a landfill.
Games used to be worthless and owners, as well as game stores with stagnant inventory just threw them out as trash until the larger supply equalized to the dwindling demand. Now we have the opposite, huge demand and little supply, hence games that were formerly worthless now sell for huge amounts.
On the one hand, the high prices is bad for the gamer but ultimately good for preservation because existing stock isn't just going straight into landfills. I do believe we are in a bubble so to speak. All the shelf collectors doing it because it's "in" or "cool" will eventually get bored and dump their stock, then prices will be reasonable once again. Just don't expect bargain basement prices like what existed around 2000. That would be unrealistic. Games are a part of history and will be appreciated until the end of time, whether they exist as physical media or just ROMs on someone's hard drive.
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Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one. Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon. Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend. However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy. The Neutopia series happens to be one. As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range. So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC. Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection? No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of. I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games. This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket. However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems. So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways.
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Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one. Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon. Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend. However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy. The Neutopia series happens to be one. As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range. So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC. Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection? No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of. I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games. This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket. However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems. So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways.
For a handful of games you really enjoy, I see no problem paying for them...but be an educated consumer and, as with anything, it is about a balance between frugality and extravagance.
Nobody is perfect. We are all guilty of indulging some sins.
Just don't become an addict, hooked on an absurdly expensive habit.
Unless you are a rich bastard. Then the world is your oyster. Or cloister. Or whatever.
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Yup sucks. Not everyone was born to dine on caviar. But personally I find Turbografx games a lot more palatable than fish eggs. :-&
That said, I bought a PC-Henshin adapter last year and do not regret it. Aside from Neutpia and a few others, most of the games are available on PC Engine and many are on par with Super Famicom / Mega Drive prices. I'm also getting Neutopia I+II and Magical Chase repros. And if you don't already have one, an Everdrive is a must!
I picked up a card only Air Zonk last year for $73 shipped. Now when I see prices like this, $132, I want to cry.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182141112385
CIC Air Zonk in case presumably with repro end label (looking good so far but I bet it ends higher than the last one):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zonk-TurboGrafx-16-1992-Jewel-Case-Manual-And-Game/322116957958
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I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all. I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system. I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them. For now. I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day. I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks. Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks. I really dont get it at all. Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.
Yeah it sucks. A lot of the price inflation is caused by poser collectors who want to collect a "complete set" or otherwise buy nice games just to have them as "shelf sitters" Kinda dumb if you ask me but at least if people think they have value, it won't go into a landfill.
Games used to be worthless and owners, as well as game stores with stagnant inventory just threw them out as trash until the larger supply equalized to the dwindling demand. Now we have the opposite, huge demand and little supply, hence games that were formerly worthless now sell for huge amounts.
On the one hand, the high prices is bad for the gamer but ultimately good for preservation because existing stock isn't just going straight into landfills. I do believe we are in a bubble so to speak. All the shelf collectors doing it because it's "in" or "cool" will eventually get bored and dump their stock, then prices will be reasonable once again. Just don't expect bargain basement prices like what existed around 2000. That would be unrealistic. Games are a part of history and will be appreciated until the end of time, whether they exist as physical media or just ROMs on someone's hard drive.
Too many collectards are instant gratification addicts who don't plan ahead, let alone plan on dying.
When family members unexpectedly inherit the huge burdern of thousands of games that they couldn't possibly sort through, even if they had a clue what any of it is, so much is going straight to the landfill.
I have ongoing plans for the important game related items in my possession. The people I've told my partners I want to inherit various things will continue to evolve. But if I end up passing before esteban, he'll never finish scanning everything coming his way.
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People just need to be more patient and not try and jump at the first buy it now. Here are some auctions I have won this year on ebay for turbo games that while not flea market prices were fair in my opinion.
Neutopia card only $30 on 1/3/2016
Psychosis card and manual $35 on 3/27/16
Dragon's Curse card only $55 on 3/31/16
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For a handful of games you really enjoy, I see no problem paying for them...but be an educated consumer and, as with anything, it is about a balance between frugality and extravagance.
Nobody is perfect. We are all guilty of indulging some sins.
Just don't become an addict, hooked on an absurdly expensive habit.
Unless you are a rich bastard. Then the world is your oyster. Or cloister. Or whatever.
Hell yeah esteban, thank's for elegantly verbalizing my view on this hobby.
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I pay a premium to get certain games sooner than later or in a particular completeness or condition. But it's a small fraction of my decreasing year to year buying. I don't have enough time for playing games, so I'm much more patient when it comes to buying something for a fair price. I don't only hold out for super deals, but I do try to avoid gouging on basic principle.
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I have ongoing plans for the important game related items in my possession. The people I've told my partners I want to inherit various things will continue to evolve. But if I end up passing before esteban, he'll never finish scanning everything coming his way.
Hahjajajajajajj.
I am on the "Quiet Car" on the train...and I just laughed out loud, literally.
Oh, the looks I got from all the other commuters...
:)
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Well, as long as all these f*cking noobs keep showing up. Yeah. There are probably more noobs this year alone than there were in the entire TG-16 user base back in the day. Many TG-16 games used to just...sit there at the store, for months or years, and eventually go back to the main warehouse after never selling. You know, like any catagory of software in existence.
We have to get these kids laid, guys. It's the the only way to stem the tide. Also, your own kids. Tell them you love them and try to instill some kind of value system in your sons so that they don't all end up seaking external validation through a $6000 chip of plastic that smells like a library basement but only if you remove the plastic.
Seriously, what kind of 22 year old in 2016 starts buying games older than him for hundreds of dollars each? What is even the draw for someone like that? And why can't he just collect 8 Track? It has a much better software selection.
High prices suck yes, but the idea of new/younger gamers getting interested in what we enjoy is not a bad thing. Actually it keeps what we love and enjoy alive. It also is a testament about how "good" games can still stand the test of time, even with simpler graphics and features, still be a blast today. I see the boom of classic gaming coming from 3 groups. One's who have always love gaming in general and would like to experience what they missed out on.(Thats me. I also think the past 2 years of gaming have been the worst gen yet. So Im buying better games imo) Another wants to relive their past/childhood. Lastly, the "collectards" you refer too lol. Out to have a dick measuring contest with their game collection. No hate on collecting though. I have nearly everything out their, but its everything I've had since 1985 till now. Also just own what I enjoy. I can understand the frustration with prices, but glad people can and do appreciate great games and a fantastic NEC console.
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I'm all for new guys getting involved and excited about Turbobs. It's the f*cktards that just want to buy shit so they can make unboxing videos that suck; anyone that doesn't want to actually play the games (and I mean play 'em, not just boot the game and watch the title sequence to make sure it's functional) can get f*cked.
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Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one. Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon. Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend. However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy. The Neutopia series happens to be one. As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range. So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC. Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection? No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of. I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games. This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket. However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems. So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways.
It's for a few titles that's fine just be careful.Collecting for older consoles can be very addictive,you can spend more then you intend to.Still there's to many collectards out there currently for older consoles.At least what i'm seeing with younger people more money then common sense.With to many sellers as well that are taking advantage of it.
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I'm all for new guys getting involved and excited about Turbobs. It's the f*cktards that just want to buy shit so they can make unboxing videos that suck; anyone that doesn't want to actually play the games (and I mean play 'em, not just boot the game and watch the title sequence to make sure it's functional) can get f*cked.
lol I hear ya. Also wanted to mention: When a game gets to a price thats well out of range, I myself have no problem paying for a high quality reproduction hu-card that plays perfect on real hardware and comes in a case that looks and protects just as good as the original for a fraction of the cost. Of course the everdrive was already mentioned which is great for test driving a game before you buy or playing them insane price games exclusively.
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lol I hear ya. Also wanted to mention: When a game gets to a price thats well out of range, I myself have no problem paying for a high quality reproduction hu-card that plays perfect on real hardware and comes in a case that looks and protects just as good as the original for a fraction of the cost. Of course the everdrive was already mentioned which is great for test driving a game before you buy or playing them insane price games exclusively.
The value of Everdrive for playing Turbografx / PC Engine cannot be stated enough. It was my first purchase after getting my Turbografx. That said, there is something deeply satisfying about inserting a card, cart, disc, whatever and having the game boot immediately without navigating a menu. But definitely use a flash card or emulator to "try before you buy" so you don't get burned on expensive purchase.
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While the high price of software sucks, it does have a positive side. If it wasn't for the high priced software, we wouldn't have the likes of the Turbo Everdrive or the reproduction Hu Cards. It simply wouldn't be economical to produce those items with out the existing inflated prices.
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I'm all for new guys getting involved and excited about Turbobs. It's the f*cktards that just want to buy shit so they can make unboxing videos that suck; anyone that doesn't want to actually play the games (and I mean play 'em, not just boot the game and watch the title sequence to make sure it's functional) can get f*cked.
Spoken with class. Points to you good sir.
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While the high price of software sucks, it does have a positive side. If it wasn't for the high priced software, we wouldn't have the likes of the Turbo Everdrive or the reproduction Hu Cards. It simply wouldn't be economical to produce those items with out the existing inflated prices.
This is very arguable. Even if every pce and Turbob gMe was $0.50 USD it would be cheaper to get a Ted.
Also, the main reason I and many others purchase flash drives is for the functionality of testing and playing homebrews.
Also, it's a huge space saver, one would argue that if the games were completely devalued the physical space would not be justified.
Everdrive are the best option for someone who just wants to enjoy the software and doesn't care about any packaging or collecting.
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Flash carts and other sorts of copying devices existed before games were collectable so I think that sorta pops that theory. It's only logical that someone really into a game system would want the ability to run unlicensed code. Most consoles are unnatural in that they don't normally allow this. Flash carts fix that problem regardless of ones motivations, cheapness, OCD, homebrew, translations, whatever.
The fact that they cost so much less than they used to is right in line with pretty much anything in popular electronics costing way less than it used to.
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This is very arguable. Even if every pce and Turbob gMe was $0.50 USD it would be cheaper to get a Ted.
Also, the main reason I and many others purchase flash drives is for the functionality of testing and playing homebrews.
Also, it's a huge space saver, one would argue that if the games were completely devalued the physical space would not be justified.
Everdrive are the best option for someone who just wants to enjoy the software and doesn't care about any packaging or collecting.
Sure, I will give you that on the TED. I wouldn't say that the development and release of the TED is exclusively based on high prices of software. However, the high prices are driven mostly by recent popularity vs rarity (sure a few titles have limited runs). Popularity drives much of the development of multi-carts beyond the scope of homebrew devices.
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While the high price of software sucks, it does have a positive side. If it wasn't for the high priced software, we wouldn't have the likes of the Turbo Everdrive or the reproduction Hu Cards. It simply wouldn't be economical to produce those items with out the existing inflated prices.
This is very arguable. Even if every pce and Turbob gMe was $0.50 USD it would be cheaper to get a Ted.
Also, the main reason I and many others purchase flash drives is for the functionality of testing and playing homebrews.
Also, it's a huge space saver, one would argue that if the games were completely devalued the physical space would not be justified.
Everdrive are the best option for someone who just wants to enjoy the software and doesn't care about any packaging or collecting.
I agree with this statement. Take a look at NES collecting for instance. Despite the recent inflation of NES game prices in the past five years, there are two options available (NES and PowerPak) for those people who want to play 98% of licensed and unlicensed games all on one cart. Sure you could spend $1000 buying up 200 of the crappiest games on the system as shelf filler, but why when over half of the library sucks? Popular games have gone up, as have rares, but still there's plenty of uncommons left that are quite affordable due to low desirability. Aside from the expensive "Unicorns" that most people can't afford anyway, anyone could stock their shelves with 700 boring gray carts.
I 100% agree that the value in flash carts is not in the cost of the games it replaces, but in the space it frees up. Still though, if I enjoy playing a game enough, I will seek ownership of that title because it deserves a space in my gaming library. If it's something I'll cram in the system for 5 minutes before getting bored with it, then it's just shelf fodder with no real purpose in a gamer's collection. Worse if said title cost three figures or more... #-o
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Having a game that sucks and you'll never play is pointless. You make it seem like the (very modern, totally manufactured) "burden" of collecting a complete set is reduced if it's all on a flash cart. The key to reducing that burden is to get ahold of yourself. You don't need Platoon for NES. Even if it's free and consumes zero space. It's still just more dumb crap that you feel you need for but a ROM in list of shit you'll never click on has the same meaningless place in your life.
"Thank god I can not waste any more time with Master Blaster and RC Pro Am. Now I can play all the Color Dreams releases." - said someone who's severe depression is still fully in place.
When you have an infinate omnivorous thirst for more and more shit, new shit delivery systems aren't the solution.
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Having a game that sucks and you'll never play is pointless. You make it seem like the (very modern, totally manufactured) "burden" of collecting a complete set is reduced if it's all on a flash cart. The key to reducing that burden is to get ahold of yourself. You don't need Platoon for NES. Even if it's free and consumes zero space. It's still just more dumb crap that you feel you need for but a ROM in list of shit you'll never click on has the same meaningless place in your life.
"Thank god I can not waste any more time with Master Blaster and RC Pro Am. Now I can play all the Color Dreams releases." - said someone who's severe depression is still fully in place.
When you have an infinate omnivorous thirst for more and more shit, new shit delivery systems aren't the solution.
Quoted for truth.
Full disclosure: I have full No_Intro ROM sets on all my flash carts. [-X
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Well, back when NES stuff was dirt cheap, I didnt have to worry about shelves of games. The ones I didnt like I would trade or just plain give away. The low value on many of the games meant that it was common to simply give away a box of games with a system. Good fun for cheap. Did retailers trash them? Not that I saw. The game stores near me constantly rotated games with frequent trades. I would argue that collections hurt the entire system. It makes the market a niche and shrinks the base of buyers. N64 is a prime example. In our store, I have LOTS of systems from trade, many of the customers citing that the reason is that it is not affordable to play many of the games on the system now. Collectors are pricing out the casual players who make up the largest base of the consumer group.
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Lol, Nintendo 64 collecting. :P
It's too bad that the Everdrive requires a sacrificed chip to be installed and doesn't work straight out of the box. The hacks to turn off "anti aliasing" make most games playable, so the Everdrive 64 is a must-own for everyone interested in playing the games and make the physical copies dust collectors.
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The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.
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The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.
Errr, no. N64 was actually quite difficult to keep in stock for about two years while the retro craze really ramped up. It is only when the prices of the games started pushing up that many of my customers began to sell. Many specifically stated that the reason was game cost. As for the GC, we dont normally buy very many, but the backwards wii hurt that one. The wii u, despite being less popular than the other big two, is very difficult to keep in stock. Even harder is getting the games sold back to us. People really like the system once they try it, and the games seem to stay in their collections. Ps4 and x1 stuff floods in daily, but not so much on the wii u.
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The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.
Errr, no. N64 was actually quite difficult to keep in stock for about two years while the retro craze really ramped up. It is only when the prices of the games started pushing up that many of my customers began to sell. Many specifically stated that the reason was game cost. As for the GC, we dont normally buy very many, but the backwards wii hurt that one. The wii u, despite being less popular than the other big two, is very difficult to keep in stock. Even harder is getting the games sold back to us. People really like the system once they try it, and the games seem to stay in their collections. Ps4 and x1 stuff floods in daily, but not so much on the wii u.
Somebody said in another forum they would wait it out and buy a Wii-U cheaply after the NX drops. As a Wii-U owner, I can say that is unlikely. It is a fantastic system, and it's status as an underdog system with fantastic library assures it will remain desirable long after discontinuation. I don't imagine it will ever be possible to pick a complete system (Wii-U plus Gamepad plus hookups and accessories) for under $100.
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But it has happened with every other fantastic system which had the status as an underdog system with fantastic library before it.
The only difference is that this is the second overpriced generation-behind console hardware the same company has dared to put out. Like the Wii, it should have launched for $100 - $150 to justify its existence.
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The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.
Errr, no. N64 was actually quite difficult to keep in stock for about two years while the retro craze really ramped up. It is only when the prices of the games started pushing up that many of my customers began to sell. Many specifically stated that the reason was game cost. As for the GC, we dont normally buy very many, but the backwards wii hurt that one. The wii u, despite being less popular than the other big two, is very difficult to keep in stock. Even harder is getting the games sold back to us. People really like the system once they try it, and the games seem to stay in their collections. Ps4 and x1 stuff floods in daily, but not so much on the wii u.
Somebody said in another forum they would wait it out and buy a Wii-U cheaply after the NX drops. As a Wii-U owner, I can say that is unlikely. It is a fantastic system, and it's status as an underdog system with fantastic library assures it will remain desirable long after discontinuation. I don't imagine it will ever be possible to pick a complete system (Wii-U plus Gamepad plus hookups and accessories) for under $100.
The wii u is a pretty good system it gets lots of use at my house. Another bonus with the Wii U is that you can hack the wii mode and play gamecube games without emulation via the SD card slot.
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It's neat in that it's a console, just like every other console is and I like console gaming. But it launched slightly less powerful and full featured than existing consoles which were already selling for something like $150. In the case of the Wii, they just repackaged hardware they'd already spent years reducing the manufacturing costs for.
If Nintendo wanted to justify releasing last gen hardware with top quality software support, so be it. But selling it for more than a dsuper budget price at launch is a worse gouging than anything in the Turbo gouging thread.
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The wii u is a pretty good system it gets lots of use at my house. Another bonus with the Wii U is that you can hack the wii mode and play gamecube games without emulation via the SD card slot.
Are you using the Smash Bros adapter for Game Cube Controller? Mayflash made a nice cloned version. :D
I have my own Game Cube and my old Wii is on the fritz. I was always too scared to softmod it because of my extensive VC/Wiiware collection.
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I have tried the gamecube adapter but I'm lazy to get it all hooked up sometimes so I find the original classic controller for wii is perfect for gamecube.
Softmod on the wii u is pretty easy to do and all contained within the wii mode.
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The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.
Errr, no. N64 was actually quite difficult to keep in stock for about two years while the retro craze really ramped up. It is only when the prices of the games started pushing up that many of my customers began to sell. Many specifically stated that the reason was game cost. As for the GC, we dont normally buy very many, but the backwards wii hurt that one. The wii u, despite being less popular than the other big two, is very difficult to keep in stock. Even harder is getting the games sold back to us. People really like the system once they try it, and the games seem to stay in their collections. Ps4 and x1 stuff floods in daily, but not so much on the wii u.
I'm specifically speaking of systems. Games were genuinly ALWAYS a problem with N64 but in all but the earliest days systems were surplus, the Pika ones especially. When the last Tony Hawk game came out my store had maybe a dozen N64 games, with most being sports, wrestling, or South Park, and probably 200 N64s between new and used.
The Cube was even worse. Even at very reduced prices we still had a wall of the f*ckers. Didn't it hit an official $50 at some point? Once everyone had a GC the $50 Dreamcast moved faster. The fact that Cubes rarely break doesn help either. PS2s shit the bed like there is some sort of contest for it so people will always need those.
I'm personally a big fan of the Cube, particularly the hardware. Virtually no load times on many 1st party games. They never overheat. A GB Player with Wavebird or Hori Gameboy Player Controller over 480p component is a premium experience.
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I'm personally a big fan of the Cube, particularly the hardware. Virtually no load times on many 1st party games. They never overheat. A GB Player with Wavebird or Hori Gameboy Player Controller over 480p component is a premium experience.
I miss my Hori digital Game Cube controller. I had one before crooks broke into my house and stole my entire Game Cube Collection shortly after Thanksgiving in 2006. They left all the cart systems thankfully. I eventually re-purchased most of the games they stole that I really wanted to play again, but shortly after the burglary, in early December, I stood in line at Walmart for seven hours for a Wii.
Backwards compatibility was nice too but no Game Boy Players. eStarland was clearancing their stock of Hori Game Boy Player controllers for $18.99, purple was sold out but they still had black. I had my heart set on Purple and figured I could pick one up at a later date used for cheap. I realized my mistake a couple years later when they were selling for $100 on Amazon... :cry:
Nowadays I use this for Game Boy goodness:
(http://www.retrousb.com/images/wiisuperretroport1_large.jpg)
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=31
Sadly they've been discontinued sometime after Wii dropped the Game Cube ports. SNES controller made the best Game Boy Player controller ever, and I can even use my custom arcade controller with it: :dance:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/9367006833_78c7a67014_z_d.jpg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30203515@N04/sets/72157634800361528/
Sorry for the off topic rant... :P
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Wow, that is pretty cool.
I bought my Hori Gameboy Player Controller for $8.99 at Game Crazy. If someone burgled it from me I'd spend the $100 in insurance on something else. I love the thing, but not that much.
It's weird how things seem to go straight from the crap bin to eBay madness. Where these people are when the stuff is still being made I'll never know.
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Wow, that is pretty cool.
I bought my Hori Gameboy Player Controller for $8.99 at Game Crazy. If someone burgled it from me I'd spend the $100 in insurance on something else. I love the thing, but not that much.
It's weird how things seem to go straight from the crap bin to eBay madness. Where these people are when the stuff is still being made I'll never know.
From the few posts I've read while briefly in a Facebook group, and on the few other forums I frequent, it appears that most were not old enough to care when stuff was modern if alive at all. I think a lot of this is trust fund babies with allowances larger that average earned wages.
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The GC was rock solid system that definitely got overshadowed by the PS2. The system will probably always stay dirt cheap, with exception to the special edition consoles. The games are creeping up, with a few like Fire Emblem getting into triple digits, but overall the prices arent ridiculous (yet). Current gen, I still prefer the wii u, and it is my go to for large groups. Theres few multiplayer games for the other systems, my PS4 gathers dust quite often. I guess it shows that power isnt everything. Im still impressed with 2600 games though, so I cant really relate to the current mindset of graphics and power above creativity.
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The GC was rock solid system that definitely got overshadowed by the PS2. The system will probably always stay dirt cheap, with exception to the special edition consoles. The games are creeping up, with a few like Fire Emblem getting into triple digits, but overall the prices arent ridiculous (yet). Current gen, I still prefer the wii u, and it is my go to for large groups. Theres few multiplayer games for the other systems, my PS4 gathers dust quite often. I guess it shows that power isnt everything. Im still impressed with 2600 games though, so I cant really relate to the current mindset of graphics and power above creativity.
Amazing but sometimes less is more. I'm Kosmic Stardust on AtariAge. I got a 2600 in 2012 after bashing it for ten years. I'm blown away by some of the homebrew games coming out for it. Look up Space Rock; it's an amazing Asteroids clone.
As for Nintendo, they still know how to make fun games and value local multiplayer over online. Nowadays it seems everyone is gaga over trophies/achievements and head counts online. Give me Mario or Zelda any day over that crap.
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Let me offer one other perspective that wasn't mentioned in this thread... as I'm a "New" TG16 guy. But I'm a patient collector and not one paying anywhere near prices quoted in the beginning of the thread.
It's not 20 something year olds driving the high end market... $500 is a LOT to most of those guys. It is spill over from other collectors who are tired of collecting their main system and want to expand. For me (born 84) it was always NES / N64 as my two favorites. Then I went to Genny / SNES, then PS1 / Gamecube, back to Gameboy, etc.
It's not just TG16 getting price spikes this year, PS1 has been insane too. Take Team Buddies for example... was always about $60-$80 CIB and maybe $150-$200 Sealed. Been that way for 5 or 6 years, completely flat. In 3 months, it is now $200-$250 CIB, literally 3x or 4x value in 3 months. And PS1 has generally been dead compared to Nintendo... but the Nintendo overflow has to go somewhere. And some of them are overflowing here, so I don't see TG16 prices cooling off anytime soon. Not necessarily good or bad, just reality.
And I do enjoy playing the games, but I also enjoy collecting them. It is not impossible for someone to enjoy doing both.
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The DC was rock solid system that definitely got overshadowed by the PS2.
Yep, it sure was.
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Let me offer one other perspective that wasn't mentioned in this thread... as I'm a "New" TG16 guy. But I'm a patient collector and not one paying anywhere near prices quoted in the beginning of the thread.
It's not 20 something year olds driving the high end market... $500 is a LOT to most of those guys. It is spill over from other collectors who are tired of collecting their main system and want to expand. For me (born 84) it was always NES / N64 as my two favorites. Then I went to Genny / SNES, then PS1 / Gamecube, back to Gameboy, etc.
It's not just TG16 getting price spikes this year, PS1 has been insane too. Take Team Buddies for example... was always about $60-$80 CIB and maybe $150-$200 Sealed. Been that way for 5 or 6 years, completely flat. In 3 months, it is now $200-$250 CIB, literally 3x or 4x value in 3 months. And PS1 has generally been dead compared to Nintendo... but the Nintendo overflow has to go somewhere. And some of them are overflowing here, so I don't see TG16 prices cooling off anytime soon. Not necessarily good or bad, just reality.
And I do enjoy playing the games, but I also enjoy collecting them. It is not impossible for someone to enjoy doing both.
I definitely agree with you. My decision to pick up a Turbografx in 2014 was basically one of "Okay I've got all the popular stuff, how can I expand my collection?" I introduced three new "underdog" consoles to my collection: Turbografx, 7800, and SMS. For SMS I bought a converter to play games on my Model 1 Genny. No need for a new console. The 7800 I mainly got for the Atari homebrew scene. And Turbografx-16, which played a distant third wheel to the SEGA/SNES fanboy wars, was incredible. Despite never owning one back in the day, I had a bit of prior TG-16 nostalgia simply from playing many of the games on Virtual Console. In fact prior to the Wii VC announcement, I had no idea what a Turbografx was. I even enjoyed Bonk's Adventure enough to track it down on NES before later selling it after the price inflated beyond reason.
If you look at consoles many consider to be "underdogs", TG-16 stands out as the one with the best value and had some incredibly great exclusive games despite it's smallish library. I think most everyone starts out with a Hucard only system, then graduates into imports and CDs, if they can stomach the price of a refurbished CD addon. The Turbo Everdrive is a surprisingly hot seller for Krikzz Everdrive product line, precisely so because the barrier of entry is so high.
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Putting this thread back on track.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/turbografx-game-assortment-Bonk-1-2-Legendary-Axe-1-2-Splatterhouse-Air-Zonk-/191951456734?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
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Even by high end eBay prices, that's double what those games sell for separately.
Maybe bithead1000 is starting to buy TG-16 games?
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Even by high end eBay prices, that's double what those games sell for separately.
Maybe bithead1000 is starting to buy TG-16 games?
Hahahhahahahahhaahaha.
:)
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This is usually what happens when they are not available elsewhere. Still looking for a decent priced Legend of hero tonma :-({|=
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This is usually what happens when they are not available elsewhere. Still looking for a decent priced Legend of hero tonma :-({|=
pce version.
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TG 16 loose complete either way if anyone here has an extra and would like to make some profit pm me if the ebay gouging/shilling bothers you as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbaEl3lNmh8
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Tree-Fiddy for the lawnmower, and I'll throw in Keit Courage for free... :dance:
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I just want all of the silent sellers to know that Legend of Hero Tonma is one of the last games I need to complete my TurboGrafx-16 collection and I will pay 20% more than eproxy, especially if it's CIB.
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Ha! Tonma is one of the few games I still need as well, but I'm a cheap f*ck and will pay 20% less, especially if there's no box.
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It's not just TG16 getting price spikes this year, PS1 has been insane too. Take Team Buddies for example... was always about $60-$80 CIB and maybe $150-$200 Sealed. Been that way for 5 or 6 years, completely flat. In 3 months, it is now $200-$250 CIB, literally 3x or 4x value in 3 months. And PS1 has generally been dead compared to Nintendo... but the Nintendo overflow has to go somewhere. And some of them are overflowing here, so I don't see TG16 prices cooling off anytime soon. Not necessarily good or bad, just reality.
And I do enjoy playing the games, but I also enjoy collecting them. It is not impossible for someone to enjoy doing both.
Regarding PS1 inflation, I think that the spillover from NES/SNES is getting bad since after SNES, the original PlayStation is considered to be THE RPG machine. It's also got a lot of decent STGs and overall just good variety. The high quality stuff is rising to the top in regards to price when there is not a lot of quantity.
I also (again) blame Facebook groups as they create this fast self-fulfilling prophecy on price inflation. There is one RPG FB group where I feel like discussion of Shadow Tower as some rare gem that's going to go up fast caused the game to jump in price like 50% in a couple of weeks. Forums do the same thing I guess, but people on forums seem to talk less about price speculation, at least that I've seen.
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Tonma is a pretty good game I was quite surprised at how good of a port that game is. I had lots of fun playing it. You can always tell it was a new TG16 collector that bought that $700 lot because it's all the basic US games. No cd games at all. I'm glad I have most of the turbo games that I want from the US set.
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PCE Works memories set was bid up to $300. Dumb, but not a huge surprise now days.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302080082475
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The coin alone is worth $200, right?
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
Blah blah raffle etc.
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A real Bonk 3 CD is worth some monies, but a boot?
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
You know these are reproductions, right?
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
Where are you getting bootleg collector pricing from?
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the pricing on that is kind of crazy. I saw when that seller had listed it and it didn't appear as if he or she was trying to make a lot of money off of that. The auction started at $50.
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
Where are getting bootleg collector pricing from?
This thread! :lol:
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From reading some of Stardust4ever's post's, he seems to be a very big fan of bootlegs/repros. So I could see him thinking $300 for 4 bootleg cds being a good deal.
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Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
You know these are reproductions, right?
Bonk 3 CD edition is worth some coin by itself so the whole bundle doesn't look too bad IMO.
Where are you getting bootleg collector pricing from?
I wasn't aware they were bootlegs. I just made a cursory glance at the auction and noticed that there were a couple games that were pretty desirable. I did not read the fine print, or do a pricecharting search either. I also do not collect for CD systems. The prices the Duos and CDROM add-ons go for is also ludicrus IMO.
From reading some of Stardust4ever's post's, he seems to be a very big fan of bootlegs/repros. So I could see him thinking $300 for 4 bootleg cds being a good deal.
Yes, I bought four repros (Magical Chase, Coryoon, Bonk 3, Neutopia I + II) and a homebrew from turbokon, so sue me already.
And again, I didn't realise they were repros because I didn't examine the auction. Whomever won those got boned pretty hard...
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Some sellers who just glom this shit up because $$$$ are starting to not be able to be blamed anymore.
the buyers with no brains or self control are the ones enabling this shitshow anymore.
Everyone's gotta have their shelf candy, and they needed it yesterday.
So, now everyone goes Huerdhdprpry SWIPIN MY VISA AT THE PAYPALS, and buy shit to show off online.
It's hilarious.
and sad.
very sad.
I like when they have denial after you tell them they're a giant bag of dicks for paying 80$ for a loose copy of Bonk.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201700626397
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201700626397
Everything except shrinkwrap for $80:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-16-Turrican-COMPLETE-with-box-sleeve-case-and-Instruction-Manual-/262567934754?hash=item3d2244bb22%3Ag%3A3jMAAOSw-itXp%7Etx&nma=true&si=cjCIdXCP2ntoEdcfSXHWW3IYpA0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Everything including shrinkwrap for $105:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turrican-TurboGrafx-TG-16-COMPLETE-CIB-FREE-SHIPPING-/172341286643?hash=item28205756f3:g:arwAAOSwNRdX2IyG
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201700626397
Everything except shrinkwrap for $80:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-16-Turrican-COMPLETE-with-box-sleeve-case-and-Instruction-Manual-/262567934754?hash=item3d2244bb22%3Ag%3A3jMAAOSw-itXp%7Etx&nma=true&si=cjCIdXCP2ntoEdcfSXHWW3IYpA0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Everything including shrinkwrap for $105:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turrican-TurboGrafx-TG-16-COMPLETE-CIB-FREE-SHIPPING-/172341286643?hash=item28205756f3:g:arwAAOSwNRdX2IyG
Would have been funnier if the shrink-wrapped copy sold for less. I have seen that happen before... #-o
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Wait... f*ckING PIECE OF SHITE TURRICAN is going for that much (boxed...I'm not talking "sealed")...
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Probably helps if you advertise your sealed game auctions on nintendoage.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201700626397
Hmmm......
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=21601.0
I didn't click the link when I saw it in his post because I'm not interested in sealed games. But really, I would think that a forum with a 400 page thread about how price gouging sucks would be the wrong place to advertise a $560 game.
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It's crazy what some goobers will pay for sealed games, especially for Turbobs that don't use anything special and aren't hard to reseal (not that this one is a suspected reseal, just that it's easy to do in general).
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The thing I'm most amazed by is how normal garbage like this has become that the guy who posted it didn't even get called out in the "Gauging Much" thread.
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He started it out at 99 cents, so it's hard to say he's a gouger. The buyer, on the other hand, self-gouged himself but good.
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He started it out at 99 cents, so it's hard to say he's a gouger. The buyer, on the other hand, self-gouged himself but good.
exactly. dumb buyers.
i hope this turned out to be a non-payment bidder.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201700626397
Hmmm......
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=21601.0
I didn't click the link when I saw it in his post because I'm not interested in sealed games. But really, I would think that a forum with a 400 page thread about how price gouging sucks would be the wrong place to advertise a $560 game.
Based on the ridiculous asking price, the eBay auction linked earlier was a steal! I know it's a free market and sellers can ask whatever they want, but come on... ](*,)
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I just bought Browning for 6$ on fleabay.
I'm so happy I can finally qualify for this thread.
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I just bought Browning for 6$ on fleabay.
I'm so happy I can finally qualify for this thread.
It might be worth it. It provides $6 worth of musical entertainment. Plus, there is the game itself. :)
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I just bought Browning for 6$ on fleabay.
I'm so happy I can finally qualify for this thread.
It might be worth it. It provides $6 worth of musical entertainment. Plus, there is the game itself. :)
True, the music is pretty good and the tiny bit of what I'll call 'animation' to start was pretty good.
I looked through the manual before playing and I'm like "5 levels? I can beat this." I made it to level 2, and the control is such a shitstorm of non-responsiveness (and why is the gun SO SLOW?) I doubt I can ever get past it.
Still...6$. I'm always going to find it hard to pass on anything PC Engine for 6$ so long as it's not a digital comic/mah jong/rpg.
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Whoa, someone bought a CIB Air Zonk for over $499 BIN, and then one sold for $479 BIN...huh ok so a air zonk box only is now worth $350 supposedly lol?
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Whoa, someone bought a CIB Air Zonk for over $499 BIN, and then one sold for $479 BIN...huh ok so a air zonk box only is now worth $350 supposedly lol?
To be fair, that one was obviously due for a jump. I started collecting TG16 CIB back in May and was happy to pay $250 for it. I saw Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck selling in the $450-$700 range and thought, wow how stupid is that. They aren't even TG16 exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.
So then you take a game like Air Zonk that is a TG16 exclusive and routinely pops up in the "must buy" game discussions for the platform? I was wondering why it was so cheap and now price is making more "sense", at least speaking relatively to other games in the library.
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He started it out at 99 cents, so it's hard to say he's a gouger. The buyer, on the other hand, self-gouged himself but good.
exactly. dumb buyers.
i hope this turned out to be a non-payment bidder.
Why so bitter? Seller started it at 0.99 and it sold for what it sold for. You can hate the buyer for being overzealous but that's not the seller's fault. More power to him if he got paid.
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He started it out at 99 cents, so it's hard to say he's a gouger. The buyer, on the other hand, self-gouged himself but good.
exactly. dumb buyers.
i hope this turned out to be a non-payment bidder.
Why so bitter? Seller started it at 0.99 and it sold for what it sold for. You can hate the buyer for being overzealous but that's not the seller's fault. More power to him if he got paid.
ugh
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I saw Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck selling in the $450-$700 range and thought, wow how stupid is that. They aren't even TG16 exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.
You do realize Darkwing Duck on TG-16 and NES share in name and Disney license only? They are not even close to the same game and were developed by different studios!
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I saw Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck selling in the $450-$700 range and thought, wow how stupid is that. They aren't even TG16 exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.
You do realize Darkwing Duck on TG-16 and NES share in name and Disney license only? They are not even close to the same game and were developed by different studios!
cut him some slack. he just "started collecting TG in May".
and games dont matter, prices do.
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I saw Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck selling in the $450-$700 range and thought, wow how stupid is that. They aren't even TG16 exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.
You do realize Darkwing Duck on TG-16 and NES share in name and Disney license only? They are not even close to the same game and were developed by different studios!
I knew they were different and thought I read that the NES version was "better", but I'm not familiar enough to argue it. Either way, platform exclusive titles tend to pull higher prices than multi-platform ones, hence why Air Zonk being half price of DD or Jackie Chan didn't make a lot of sense.
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I saw Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck selling in the $450-$700 range and thought, wow how stupid is that. They aren't even TG16 exclusives and the NES versions are much cheaper.
You do realize Darkwing Duck on TG-16 and NES share in name and Disney license only? They are not even close to the same game and were developed by different studios!
I knew they were different and thought I read that the NES version was "better", but I'm not familiar enough to argue it. Either way, platform exclusive titles tend to pull higher prices than multi-platform ones, hence why Air Zonk being half price of DD or Jackie Chan didn't make a lot of sense.
There is a lot more that goes into prices than just console exclusives. By your logic Tricky Kick should be an "expensive" game or at least priced competitively with Air Zonk...
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You do realize Darkwing Duck on TG-16 and NES share in name and Disney license only? They are not even close to the same game and were developed by different studios!
I told him that a couple months ago when he made the same ignorant claim, but apparently it didn't sink in.
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Meh, games just have a feel, there's no black or white rules or magic formula for price. Since this price surge in TG16 is resulting from spillover from Nintendo platforms, I assumed Air Zonk would gather more attention than DD or Jackie Chan. So I bought it and it has since doubled while DD and Jackie have stayed flat.
You don't have to agree, I just thought Air Zonk was obviously undervalued and it only took a few months to level out.
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I heard if you get undervalued games VGA slabbed they like, quadruple in value.
The Final Lap Twin in my wall safe is gonna get me to Boca someday.
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BOCA BURGERS!
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Yeah I dunno I just don't get why the box on Air Zonk matters THAT much vs. the boxes on 90% of the other games. Seems like some of these CIBs surge and then come down. Samurai Ghost peaked at almost 400 for a little on ebay and then a few poped up and with not selling they just kept going down and down and then I think finally the one sold at $199 and that took a while at $199 to finally get BIN'ed (yes I know it didnt have the box tray tho). All you need is just a couple out there to get prices back to sanity, let the impatient ppl pay stupid money. They will buy themselves out of the market for that game and hopefully more sane prices will eventually result. All ya need is for it is for the sale to pass the 3 months that ebay keeps track of it, cause that IMO is what really has made some of these games get stupid on price. Cause look, that Samurai Ghost that sold for almost $400, isnt even in ebay sold anymore so now it looks like the top price for a CIB one is back more in the $200 range.
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Last year I bought a minty Zonk box for the artwork to design a tattoo. It was an auction. The game was already selling and being listed at similar prices to today, for CIB with worn boxes. I think that I paid $40 for it. I remember that there were current BIN listings for the game and manual that I could buy and piece together a CIB copy for 1/4 - 1/3 of what people were asking and occasionally buying it for. This is why the term "collectard" was coined.
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Last year I bought a minty Zonk box for the artwork to design a tattoo. It was an auction. The game was already selling and being listed at similar prices to today, for CIB with worn boxes. I think that I paid $40 for it. I remember that there were current BIN listings for the game and manual that I could buy and piece together a CIB copy for 1/4 - 1/3 of what people were asking and occasionally buying it for. This is why the term "collectard" was coined.
I see late era games listed as "CIB" or "CIC" all the time on eBay (using a donor case) that were originally released as cardboard + plastic tray games. Finding one of those complete is pretty rare so peeps get the game + manual and repackage it in a jewel case for a hefty markup. [-X
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Last year I bought a minty Zonk box for the artwork to design a tattoo. It was an auction. The game was already selling and being listed at similar prices to today, for CIB with worn boxes. I think that I paid $40 for it. I remember that there were current BIN listings for the game and manual that I could buy and piece together a CIB copy for 1/4 - 1/3 of what people were asking and occasionally buying it for. This is why the term "collectard" was coined.
Lol nice. Do you have a pic of the tatoo? Id love to see it
Dont get me wrong I need a Zonk Box... but in the same breath I dont see why a box only on a avg. $150ish game with manual usually in case too... makes it currently a $500 game when literally months ago it was half that..
http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16/game/air-zonk?gameid=3#WILD
Look at that jump for CIB...wtf?
Meh, I dunno sometimes the game market makes me want to club a baby seal, sell all my games and start a real life fight club or something
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http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16/game/air-zonk?gameid=3#WILD
Look at that jump for CIB...wtf?
It didn't really jump, they only started collecting data on this game in March '16.. if anything the price has gone down since they started tracking it.
Edit: I was looking at the "CIC" pricing.. sorry if I confused anyone :)
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http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16/game/air-zonk?gameid=3#WILD
Look at that jump for CIB...wtf?
It didn't really jump, they only started collecting data on this game in March '16.. if anything the price has gone down since they started tracking it.
Edit: I was looking at the "CIC" pricing.. sorry if I confused anyone :)
Unfortunately by default it shows CIC not CIB so you have to click on CIB (for anyone else that may look)
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OT, but how does gamevaluenow compare to pricecharting in terms of accuracy?
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They both only use easy to gather data. A copy sold on here for $55 earlier this year iirc. I guarantee you that price isn't factored into either sale. For an accurate look at how much something sells for you would need to include all sales and not just the ones on auction sites.
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Gamevalue only does ebay, not sure about pricecharting. So its only as accurate as averaging ebay sold values.
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112166198140
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/182340967138
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/322311927734
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http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112166198140
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/182340967138
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/322311927734
GUNBOAT :)
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^^Nice. Someone allegedly listed as 99¢ BIN instead of auction? Finders, keepers... :clap:
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^^Nice. Someone allegedly listed as 99¢ BIN instead of auction? Finders, keepers... :clap:
Nope..
Seller relisted;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GUNBOAT-TURBOGRAFX-16-TG-16-HuCard-GAME-COMPLETE-LOOKS-NEW-CASE-MANUAL-/322311941485?hash=item4b0b49ed6d:g:ht4AAOSw5cNYFnzh
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^^Nice. Someone allegedly listed as 99¢ BIN instead of auction? Finders, keepers... :clap:
Nope..
Seller relisted;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GUNBOAT-TURBOGRAFX-16-TG-16-HuCard-GAME-COMPLETE-LOOKS-NEW-CASE-MANUAL-/322311941485?hash=item4b0b49ed6d:g:ht4AAOSw5cNYFnzh
crap, I missed that. I thought I saw positive feedback for the $.99 auction. my mistake.
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Whelp, looks like Neutopia II is officially out of my price range. Good thing I bought a TED over black friday.
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wut??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-Mega-Consolidation-Package-/222361156353?hash=item33c5c1fb01%3Ag%3A%7EYUAAOSw241YZYaN&nma=true&si=zm1duEOm%252Fa8SEvLtaeb3M%252B6RIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dungeon-Explorer-II-TurboGrafx-CD-US-Turbo-Duo-brand-new-factory-sealed-VGA-90-/201755036316?hash=item2ef9898a9c%3Ag%3AtHwAAOSw44BYWJxs&nma=true&si=zm1duEOm%252Fa8SEvLtaeb3M%252B6RIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COLLECTOR-OWNED-Chase-H-Q-HQ-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-16-Turbo-Duo-Complete-US-/272417821338?hash=item3f6d5e129a%3Ag%3ALroAAOSwYIxYBbCS&nma=true&si=zm1duEOm%252Fa8SEvLtaeb3M%252B6RIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-039-s-Curse-TurboGrafx-16-1991-NEC-HuCard-Vintage-Complete-CIB-/182419747702?hash=item2a79107376%3Ag%3AMwoAAOSw2xRYd-8c&nma=true&si=zm1duEOm%252Fa8SEvLtaeb3M%252B6RIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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Those buyers all have full blown AIDS. Not HIV but full blooown AIDS. I'm sorry I wish it was something less serious.
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Consolidation auction?
"ADULT COLLECTOR-OWNED"?
The rarer version of Chase HQ?
What is all this nonsense?
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Does this mean I shouldn't have raffled off the kunt fu? In 10 years time will it be worth as much as a house? Woe is me.
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Consolidation auction?
"ADULT COLLECTOR-OWNED"?
The rarer version of Chase HQ?
What is all this nonsense?
He probably had those items listed separately, worked out a deal with a buyer on all of them, and made a new BIN listing just for that buyer to keep everything within eBay rules.
The rest is BS.
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I always get a chuckle out of "Adult-collector" owned. It doesn't mean shit.
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wut??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-Mega-Consolidation-Package-/222361156353?hash=item33c5c1fb01%3Ag%3A%7EYUAAOSw241YZYaN&nma=true&si=zm1duEOm%252Fa8SEvLtaeb3M%252B6RIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Four figures for a Soldier Blade with beat up manual? I think I paid $89 for mine last year. It didn't have manual, but still... Not like this one has the cardboard or plastic tray with it, or even a donor jewel case with repro label. ](*,)
EDIT: Didn't read listing. Apparently there was more stuff in there... :-#
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so this sold, for an offer i assume (HOPE!).
but that sound you probably heard was the collective orgasmic sigh of nintendoage.
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112378247294
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so this sold, for an offer i assume (HOPE!).
but that sound you probably heard was the collective orgasmic sigh of nintendoage.
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112378247294
You've got to be kidding me..
Boxes only??!! For that much??
(http://i.imgur.com/d6x4Tdd.png?1)
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Is that like $100 per box?
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31 boxes for $3500. I wonder if the buyer didn't read the auction and assumed he was getting a bunch of games...?
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They all look to be in really good condition too. So it was probably an over the top collectard that justified the insane price tag.
I like cardboard as much as the next guy, it's cool having the original box. But I think it's safe to say that normal people would never pay this type of premium. It's precedented Ebay sales like this that are ruining even owning TG16 boxes. I've found a lot of my stuff wild, or gotten for free buying other stuff from sellers. But it's getting to the point where the cardboard for a game like Hero Tonma could land me a huge PCE trade. Like it's becoming "so valuable on eBay" I could trade with some crazed box collector and get all of his best PCE games, and run away like a bandit.
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31 boxes for $3500. I wonder if the buyer didn't read the auction and assumed he was getting a bunch of games...?
Ouch. Buyer is stuck with paper and the seller likely has negative feedback in his/her future.
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Buyer will relist at $5k minus the 2-3 boxes he needed.
Seller ID: nullityDoxPhilesupreme
Will you give me a friend rate on the Galaga 90 box? Preferably at or below $300?
If you do I'll finally get around to posting a picture of the JO crystal you sent me; I intend to store it safely in the galaga box.
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This is why I don't collect cardboard... ](*,)
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It is bad....its a terrible catch 22....some of the stuff you can only find on ebay yet the prices are through the roof. *sigh* even the non NEC stuff is just getting stupid. everyone thinks they have gold and wants to sell it as such. For instance....this moron:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/332183946418
850?!?!(not to mention 50 for shipping which is also a lot.) Ill have some of whatever he's smoking.
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Lol. That dc lot for $850 is bottom of the barrel for cheap shit.
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Lol. That dc lot for $850 is bottom of the barrel for cheap shit.
Yeah I did a double take on that one. No one probably even wants the shitty ass wheel. The games are all bargain bin stuff (some good games there, but nothing valuable). With no idea what the wireless controllers are worth I couldn't see anyone actually paying more than $100 for it, and personally, I wouldn't even pay that much. It's not worth the clutter of shit it comes with lol.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NES-Original-Classic-Edition-White-Console-BUNDLE-/282425425840?hash=item41c1ddffb0:g:oroAAOSwTM5Y6Bpx
There is no way someone paid 30k for this but it sold some how.
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Drugs inside the console? lol
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NES-Original-Classic-Edition-White-Console-BUNDLE-/282425425840?hash=item41c1ddffb0:g:oroAAOSwTM5Y6Bpx
There is no way someone paid 30k for this but it sold some how.
That is so f*cked up. The description is for the 2016 mini NES, but he is selling an NES with cracks in the case. $30,000.
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Well, that $29,950 wasted
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Well, that $29,950 wasted
QFT. $50 is fair, but yeah. I hope that was a troll bid. Serves seller right for asking outrageous prices... :roll:
There was also an NES Classic Mini that sold for $8888.88 a while back I think. Really dumb IMO. Sad thing is, if 1 out of 50 outrageous bids is actually legit, then the sellers taking a risk by placing the item up for sale might pay off once in a while. They can always file a "non-paying bidder" claim and get their fees back.
Are there actually shoppers so stupid they will do a "high to low" search for anything and buy the first listing, no matter how high? Even filthy rich people are more frugal than that, considering most people earn their wealth by making wise business decisions. Unless it's a young lotto winner or someone who think's a million dollars will last forever...
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There has to be a story behind that like some money laundering scheme or someone owed someone $40k and this was a way to do it.
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It's just stupid people are willing to pay more than $60 for an NES Mini. As for PCE games, they've just been following the trend of becoming stupidly expensive. The NES, SNES, Sharp X68000 (arguably never lost its' value), Neo Geo all have that same problem; which has more recently started affecting PS1, N64, and even the f*cking 32X
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I'm sick of these NES mini's. It's nausiating hearing about them still :roll:
People can't stop talking about them. Giving Nintendo credit though, their marketing department is genius. But all of this "mystery" supply for NES mini's has people going ape shit. Like every week there's a stupid new rumour about them. "limited releases" "region releases" omg better buy. People were lining up outside to buy these back in Novermber'ish, and they still are. Watch them be in full production again in a month. So people will be bitching about it even more, like how much longer can this possibly be talked about?
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There has to be a story behind that like some money laundering scheme or someone owed someone $40k and this was a way to do it.
Well considering eBay reports high dollar transactions, or yearly totals exceeding some high value, to the IRS. So any attempt to use eBay for otherwise shady transactions would be unwise. Generally such transactions use cash or western union or bitcoin or something untraceable so that it doesn't leave a paper trail.
I'm sick of these NES mini's. It's nausiating hearing about them still :roll:
Finally snagged one this morning at Best Buy! Sorry couldn't help myself... :dance:
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Im also sick of the damned NES mini craze. I love the idea of it, but the people paying crazy amounts...comon. Why spend the money on the nes mini when you can get a unique white nes console for 30k? One thats been "perfectly taken care of" yet has no boxes..manuals...dirt and cracks on the system.
Honestly though. It does disgust me to see auctions where people show off their literal pyramid of like 50 NES minis and then say "its sold out everywhere!! But it from me for 3x the price!"....yea its sold out because cum dumpsters like you bought them all to flip :-P
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The situation with the NES mini is appalling. And I think at some point ebay actively encouraged scalping those. The unit doesn't interest me much but I might have picked it up as a curiosity for the original MSRP and play around with it. It would have been a great gift for some of my mates who grew up with NES but have quit gaming long time ago.
The one good thing I can say about it is that the original retail price was surprisingly low given how much Nintendo tend to overvalue their old titles. Not that it matters since very few people got theirs for that price.
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The one good thing I can say about it is that the original retail price was surprisingly low given how much Nintendo tend to overvalue their old titles price.
Agreed, to the average consumer this is a very attractive product. Very well priced too like you said, considering everything included.
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Not Turbobs but sweet holy shit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/172801605515?_trksid=p2471758.m4704
Wouldn't be surprised if it gets relisted due to non-payment...
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It is bad....its a terrible catch 22....some of the stuff you can only find on ebay yet the prices are through the roof. *sigh* even the non NEC stuff is just getting stupid. everyone thinks they have gold and wants to sell it as such. For instance....this moron:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/332183946418
850?!?!(not to mention 50 for shipping which is also a lot.) Ill have some of whatever he's smoking.
Hey, he's down to $699 now! #-o
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Lol. Awesome deal now!!
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Maybe in time it will get down to the $100 or so that it might be worth. ;)