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Title: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 18, 2016, 04:14:19 AM
So, I really want to play some Metal Slug at home. I've only played NG a few times, and that was on a cabinet. I don't have room for a cabinet in my house, but I do have an RGB monitor that I use for PCE, etc. Anyway, it seems like a CMVS is the way to go with a 161-in-one multicart. I know some people use the SuperGun, but I don't know much about it. Maybe I should just buy a modded Xbox? Are there better alternatives?

I don't play fighting or sports games, so maybe I'm just wasting my money altogether. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Black Tiger on June 18, 2016, 04:37:22 AM
If you don't care about resorting to emulation, just use an Xbox.

I have an Omega cmvs, because playing on real hardware is a big deal to me and I like it better than custom cmvs and the AES.  You won't find a custom cmvs for a decent price outside the neo-geo.com forums. So buying an Omega direct would still be cheaper than the cmvs on various sites and eBay.

I have a good supergun, but it's still a pain in the ass to use. If I had to start start from scratch again, I'd still get an Omega. It also has unibios so you can play the version of each game you want and listen to the soundtrack.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: bob on June 18, 2016, 04:40:06 AM
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/191892495581
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on June 18, 2016, 04:49:49 AM
I'm a massive Neo fan, I owned all the Neo AES carts back in the day, not all at the same time, I wasn't rich, just extremely dedicated, I used to trade a lot. Anyways I looked into getting back into Neo Geo AES again i think it was around 2006, to pick up all my old games, but the whole thing was just f*cked, I found the Neo scene is full of super shady sellers, tons of fake carts, just a complete nightmare. I dabbled with MVS for a bit, but then settled on emulation. NeoRagex plus complete rom set is amazing.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 18, 2016, 04:52:23 AM
Thanks, didn't know about the Omega. Typically I don't like emulation since the "feel" is all wrong, but I've never tried the Xbox. I'll look into the Omega.

Does anyone like the NG CD?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/191892495581


Actually, I just read about the anthology collection after I started this thread. I may go this route after weighing my options.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on June 18, 2016, 04:55:26 AM
I forgot to say IMO Neo CD sucks dick, probably my single biggest disappointment in video games.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: bob on June 18, 2016, 04:58:54 AM
Thanks, didn't know about the Omega. Typically I don't like emulation since the "feel" is all wrong, but I've never tried the Xbox. I'll look into the Omega.

Does anyone like the NG CD?

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/191892495581


Actually, I just read about the anthology collection after I started this thread. I may go this route after weighing my options.


the disc plays well on wii.  might at least be a good short term option until you decide if you want to shell out for the real thing.  maybe it will even sway you to save the funds for a good system/other games.
(if you know what i mean)

*says the guy who just bought a bunch of PS1 sports titles*
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: TheClash603 on June 18, 2016, 05:11:43 AM
It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: bob on June 18, 2016, 05:13:24 AM
they made a whole SNK/Neo compilation as well.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 18, 2016, 05:16:43 AM
It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: TheClash603 on June 18, 2016, 05:24:20 AM
It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.

My dad has a Wii and 700 games and he paid around $10 for it.  The amount of games is not an exaggeration, the price he paid is, but only slightly.

I wish I was more into the Wii, you can fill up storage lockers with Wii stuff for less than a small decent Neo Geo early release library.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on June 18, 2016, 05:26:24 AM
Typically I don't like emulation since the "feel" is all wrong


I've found it plays perfectly I can't find any criticisms. NeoRagex (with scanlines enabled) on my 42" LED TV looks stunning. Around 2007 I built a very small media PC for emulation and everything just worked great. You can get some USB controllers and the whole experinace is just faultless  http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEOGEO-STICK-2-Import-Japan-PlayStation-3-PS3-USB-/271934816502?hash=item3f509400f6:g:iPAAAOSw-jhUH70w
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 18, 2016, 05:28:00 AM
It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.

My dad has a Wii and 700 games and he paid around $10 for it.  The amount of games is not an exaggeration, the price he paid is, but only slightly.

I wish I was more into the Wii, you can fill up storage lockers with Wii stuff for less than a small decent Neo Geo early release library.

Be careful, you don't want to turn into this guy:

https://youtu.be/8sJbWQ2nA8U
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Punch on June 18, 2016, 05:44:21 AM
Don't bother with the NEO*GEO unless you're a BIG TYMER or you're content with owning an arcade board with a 152-in-1 cart.


It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.

My dad has a Wii and 700 games and he paid around $10 for it.  The amount of games is not an exaggeration, the price he paid is, but only slightly.

I wish I was more into the Wii, you can fill up storage lockers with Wii stuff for less than a small decent Neo Geo early release library.

You don't post something like that without PICS!!!
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Black Tiger on June 18, 2016, 05:55:07 AM
Most of those Neo Geo collections for consoles like PS2 are supposed to have poor emulation. If all you want is Metal Slug games, then a cheap emulated set should be fine.

You mentioned before that you're not into fighting or sports games, which I'm not really either, but there's still a crapload of other cool games that you'll get most of on a multi-game cart. Also, you can get a multi-cart for a fraction of what people ask for on eBay if you buy from a place like aliexpress:

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160618083544&SearchText=neo+geo+mvs


Here's a list of every MVS game and which multi-carts they appear on:

http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/MVS_Multicart


Lots of shooters, Bubble Bobble-style, puzzle, platformer/action, beat em up, misc style games.


The Neo Geo CD isn't worthwhile unless you're hardcore into Neo Geo and then only after you get a cart setup. Most games are compromised, you don't have unibios and not everything is available. There are a few cool exclusives, but some have already been hacked into mvs carts. I mainly got mine for Samurai Spirits RPG and back then, to play Kabuki Klash, since cmvs systems weren't really around.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 18, 2016, 08:06:14 AM
Thanks Black Tiger, for essentially confirming my suspicions. Gonna look into an Omega soon and get a multi cart. What do you guys like to use for controllers?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: EvilEvoIX on June 18, 2016, 10:20:23 AM
I have Metal Slug 1-4 on the MVS so I use a Phantom 1 MVS to AES converter to play.  This was back when Metal slug 1 MVS loose was like $20 when I got it and my AES was $200 so nothing crazy like today.  You can always look into a MVS Mini.  You need to modify it for stereo sound but other than that it's Scan Line heaven.


(http://www.neo-geo.com/gallery/collections/Shawn/mvs.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Groover on June 18, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Thanks Black Tiger, for essentially confirming my suspicions. Gonna look into an Omega soon and get a multi cart. What do you guys like to use for controllers?


I'm thinking this. I have always wanted a Neo Geo and I think I will continue to wait but some day I want an Omega and Multi cart. I'm researching the controllers. I recently discovered that Undammed the guy behind the UD-CPS2 has made an Arcade/Neo-geo connection to USB that works with TE sticks and PS3/360 future PS4/XB1.

http://udgametech.blogspot.com (http://udgametech.blogspot.com/)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee311/undamned_photobucket/UD-CPS2/DSC08853_CROP_RESIZE_zpsd386d24c.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 18, 2016, 01:26:28 PM
Thanks Black Tiger, for essentially confirming my suspicions. Gonna look into an Omega soon and get a multi cart. What do you guys like to use for controllers?


I'm thinking this. I have always wanted a Neo Geo and I think I will continue to wait but some day I want an Omega and Multi cart. I'm researching the controllers. I recently discovered that Undammed the guy behind the UD-CPS2 has made an Arcade/Neo-geo connection to USB that works with TE sticks and PS3/360 future PS4/XB1.

http://udgametech.blogspot.com (http://udgametech.blogspot.com/)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee311/undamned_photobucket/UD-CPS2/DSC08853_CROP_RESIZE_zpsd386d24c.jpg)


I just heard about this as well on "my life in Tetris" YouTube video yesterday.

Seems like a god send so I can use other controllers for my super gun that are not AWS sticks.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: TR0N on June 18, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
Thanks Black Tiger, for essentially confirming my suspicions. Gonna look into an Omega soon and get a multi cart. What do you guys like to use for controllers?
I just use a pair of modded sega saturn controllers for my cmvs.Still works well for my gaming needs on the system.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 18, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
I find that a good Neo emulator is vastly more enjoyable than %95 of the ports. I pretty much only run real games on real hardware but if you can't justify that expense do try emulation. Honestly, even if you can justify the expense you should probably try emulation, unless you're one of those f*cking a$$holes that has to compete a collection before you even play the games, obviously. It doesn't sound like you really know Neo that well yet so dropping $400 or whatever might be really dumb. You might not even like it.

You'll probably like it. :)

Personally, I love it. The Neo is a very special system. There hasn't been anything like it before or since. If I had to choose between Neo and PCE it would be *really* hard. I've been in love with the same games for so long it's pretty obvious I'm never going to get tired of them.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: cabbage on June 18, 2016, 06:08:52 PM
Is the extra cost of the Omega worth it over the DIY/Supergun option? Sure, Omega looks pretty, but costs like 5x as much...
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 18, 2016, 06:10:32 PM
Thanks Black Tiger, for essentially confirming my suspicions. Gonna look into an Omega soon and get a multi cart. What do you guys like to use for controllers?

I made my own stick. I also have a standard AES stick and a CD pad. My system is a two-slot based CMVS so they plug right in just like the home console. It also takes memory cards.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Black Tiger on June 18, 2016, 06:23:11 PM
Is the extra cost of the Omega worth it over the DIY/Supergun option? Sure, Omega looks pretty, but costs like 5x as much...

The Omega is now $530 direct from the guys who make them. If you're handy enough you can make your own supergun, but if not an mvs board and cheap supergun + bulky power supply will still cost $200. And if you can only find a cheap supergun which only does RGB, you might need to buy a component transcoder.

You'd be better off trying to track down a cheap cmvs. I've had issues with homemade cmvs and superguns in the past, but the Omega runs as perfect as a console. With everything accepting the video output (unlike some of my consoles with video mods) and a simple power cable instead of a loose ATX power supply in the mix. Plus they come with the latest unibios and built-in memory card. You can buy a unibios chip if you're able to convert an mvs board yourself. But the Omega is much higher quality than an AES and looks nice, so you definitely get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: TheClash603 on June 18, 2016, 09:53:17 PM
Don't bother with the NEO*GEO unless you're a BIG TYMER or you're content with owning an arcade board with a 152-in-1 cart.


It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.

My dad has a Wii and 700 games and he paid around $10 for it.  The amount of games is not an exaggeration, the price he paid is, but only slightly.

I wish I was more into the Wii, you can fill up storage lockers with Wii stuff for less than a small decent Neo Geo early release library.

You don't post something like that without PICS!!!

No pics here, but basically my dad babysits my brat nephew and the only time he shuts up is when he is playing wii.  He started getting a game here or there and buying lots off craigslist where there was like 50 games and a system for $100.  He's been doing that for a while and has amassed around 700 unique games.  My nephew is spoiled and he needs a room for his wii stuff.

This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Arkhan on June 18, 2016, 10:30:55 PM
f*ck NEO GEO.

/thread.

lock it.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 19, 2016, 02:19:12 AM
Don't bother with the NEO*GEO unless you're a BIG TYMER or you're content with owning an arcade board with a 152-in-1 cart.


It's cheap enough where you might as well grab the Anthology while you continue to weigh your options.  That is just one of those games everyone should have.

I would if I had a Wii. I do have a PS2,  but the price of the game on that is quite a bit higher. I'll keep an eye out for a Wii deal on Craigslist.

My dad has a Wii and 700 games and he paid around $10 for it.  The amount of games is not an exaggeration, the price he paid is, but only slightly.

I wish I was more into the Wii, you can fill up storage lockers with Wii stuff for less than a small decent Neo Geo early release library.

You don't post something like that without PICS!!!

No pics here, but basically my dad babysits my brat nephew and the only time he shuts up is when he is playing wii.  He started getting a game here or there and buying lots off craigslist where there was like 50 games and a system for $100.  He's been doing that for a while and has amassed around 700 unique games.  My nephew is spoiled and he needs a room for his wii stuff.

This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?

The Neo hero forums probably have a more accurate answer but I belive it has to do with availability.


AES. Very small market with each game new costing $200 ish. So not many games or systems are really available second hand.

MVS. Butt load of arcades and arcade owners to buy the cab and various games released. Sure your average MVS game will run you $80-$120 loose (non-kit) and some of the harder to come by games in the range of $200-400. But that is still a fraction of a AES game. Which is probably why the only two AES games I own which are JP copies are so common I got them for $40 a game.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 19, 2016, 02:50:11 AM
Well, multi-carts are pirate and still being made whereas legit AES games were often super low production runs and haven't been made for a decade.

I can't believe I had to explain why bootlegs are worthless...
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 19, 2016, 02:53:29 AM
Well, multi-carts are pirate and still being made whereas legit AES games were often super low production runs and haven't been made for a decade.

I can't believe I had to explain why bootlegs are worthless...

He added about the MVS games that were in the arcade cabinets. Not the bootlegs.


Granted this hobby can be 80% bootlegs if you dot. Check every PCB before buying.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 19, 2016, 02:55:09 AM
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This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 19, 2016, 03:06:59 AM
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This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?

Completely missed the multi cart part.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: csgx1 on June 19, 2016, 04:45:02 AM
I've been wanting to get back into playing the Neo Geo for years now. I have a 1slot cabinet that's basically been in storage ever since i've moved to a very small place.

I'd like to possibly consolize the mvs board (unsure of what board version). Would a supergun be the easiest way to swap the board between home use (with an rgb monitor) and cabinet? If I ever move to a bigger place i'd like the option to easily swap the board back in the cabinet.

Are the bootleg multi carts reliable?  Any serious issues or significant differences with loading/playing a game compared to a real mvs cart? 
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: jtucci31 on June 19, 2016, 07:00:02 AM
Man upon looking at the list the 138-in-1 looks the best to me, but what is that board sticking out? Can I just use the cart or do I need to utilize that other thing too?

Been meaning to get a multi cart for my cmvs for awhile. I got one built from jamma nation X, did whatever mods and such I wanted. RGB, S Vid, unibios for pretty reasonable price.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Black Tiger on June 19, 2016, 10:18:59 AM
I've been wanting to get back into playing the Neo Geo for years now. I have a 1slot cabinet that's basically been in storage ever since i've moved to a very small place.

I'd like to possibly consolize the mvs board (unsure of what board version). Would a supergun be the easiest way to swap the board between home use (with an rgb monitor) and cabinet? If I ever move to a bigger place i'd like the option to easily swap the board back in the cabinet.

Are the bootleg multi carts reliable?  Any serious issues or significant differences with loading/playing a game compared to a real mvs cart? 

There are some compatibility issues with some MVS boards. I believe that it's broken down at the top of that game list I posted earlier. On my first homemade cmvs, games would sometimes rest randomly. Some games are supposed to have imperfect sound and I believe that Aero Fighters 3 on every multi-cart doesn't work correctly. I've read about mods that can be done to multi-carts to fix the issues.

Still worthwhile paying $50 - $100 to play/sample $20,000 worth of mvs games. I got a multi-cart first, but still bought around 20 original games so far since then, as well as a couple more multi-carts to cover every game available through them.




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Man upon looking at the list the 138-in-1 looks the best to me, but what is that board sticking out? Can I just use the cart or do I need to utilize that other thing too?

Been meaning to get a multi cart for my cmvs for awhile. I got one built from jamma nation X, did whatever mods and such I wanted. RGB, S Vid, unibios for pretty reasonable price.

I'd avoid those kind, they're made for arcade boards. There are better cart-only ones that cover most of the games you'd want. I believe I got the 120, 108 and 161 to cover everything that's on any multi-game cart.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: TheClash603 on June 19, 2016, 12:15:17 PM
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This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?

Completely missed the multi cart part.

My apologies if I should've said "why are the ###-in-1 MVS carts so cheap, whereas the ###-in-1 AES carts so expensive?"  I always see the MVS multi-carts fairly cheap and think it would be cool to nab one for my AES, but every time I see one for sale on AES it is 5x the cost.  I understand why MVS carts are cheaper in general than AES carts and I even understand why modern (?) aftermarket bootleg games would be made in larger quantity in the MVS format.  However, I think if one of these bootlegers could produce an AES ###-in-1 carts at a reasonable price I am sure it would fly off the shelf (ie. - website/ebay), at least in a quantity which would let them turn a profit.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 19, 2016, 02:38:13 PM
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This might be a stupid question,  but why are MVS multi-carts so cheap, but AES carts so rare and expensive?  Aren't they basically the same thing?

Completely missed the multi cart part.

My apologies if I should've said "why are the ###-in-1 MVS carts so cheap, whereas the ###-in-1 AES carts so expensive?"  I always see the MVS multi-carts fairly cheap and think it would be cool to nab one for my AES, but every time I see one for sale on AES it is 5x the cost.  I understand why MVS carts are cheaper in general than AES carts and I even understand why modern (?) aftermarket bootleg games would be made in larger quantity in the MVS format.  However, I think if one of these bootlegers could produce an AES ###-in-1 carts at a reasonable price I am sure it would fly off the shelf (ie. - website/ebay), at least in a quantity which would let them turn a profit.

I still wish and hope for a ever drive MVS or AES to be made.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: csgx1 on June 20, 2016, 05:09:26 AM
Still worthwhile paying $50 - $100 to play/sample $20,000 worth of mvs games.

When you put it that way, the multi carts sound like a bargain.  I'm not too picky as long as most of the games are playable and the cart doesn't break easily or damage anything.   It sounds like most of the issues are minor or acceptable for the price.   I'll definitely look into getting one.  Thanks for the info and I appreciate your assessment.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: in99flames on June 21, 2016, 05:53:04 AM
I have a USA version AES and a 4 slot MVS cabinet in my house. Neo Geo is a ton of fun and does have cool games that arent just fighting. Its expensive so I wouldnt recommend if you obly really want Metal Slug. I only have the First metal slug MVS cart. I couldn't see if anyone mentioned this...but if you want a more "authentic feel"....try looking for a Neo Geo X Gold. I think they are still on amazon for under 200. It has a portable system with it and a lot of great games. Might be worth a look.

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Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 21, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Have you seen the Game Sack episode on the Neo Geo X? It doesn't make me want to go out and buy it.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on June 21, 2016, 11:26:22 AM
Avoid the Neo Geo X Gold, it's just bad.
Massive missed opportunity though, it could of been amazing if SNK Playmore had handled it themselves.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 21, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
Avoid the Neo Geo X Gold, it's just bad.
Massive missed opportunity though, it could of been amazing if SNK Playmore had handled it themselves.


Tell me about it. I pre-ordered it at the time thinking it would be great as it was officially licensed by play more.


I was so disappointed.


I almost returned it. But. It's still something I own. Never bothered with any of the game collections. They made after words. I saw Amazon trying to sell off what they had left two years ago at a dramatically reduced price
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on June 21, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
Avoid the Neo Geo X Gold, it's just bad.
Massive missed opportunity though, it could of been amazing if SNK Playmore had handled it themselves.


Tell me about it. I pre-ordered it at the time thinking it would be great as it was officially licensed by play more.


I was so disappointed.


I almost returned it. But. It's still something I own. Never bothered with any of the game collections. They made after words. I saw Amazon trying to sell off what they had left two years ago at a dramatically reduced price

I was really hyped for the Neo Geo X Gold and bought it on release (maybe even pre ordered, can't remember) but sent it back the same day it arrived. This was before the truck load of hate backlash it received, so my decision was completely unbiased, it just felt really cheap and nasty and the screen quality looked awful.

The concept was awesome though and I dream about if SNK Playmore had done it and it had been successful enough that they started making new Neo Geo games for it.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: BigusSchmuck on June 21, 2016, 12:38:39 PM
I managed to pay around $200 for my voga supergun and mvs setup with memory cards, unibios and controllers. I don't recall the motherboard I used for the build, but it is one of the MVS boards that you could use the memory board support. Just need a damn enclosure, bare circuit boards no bueno. :)
Edit:
MV-1.
http://www.hardmvs.com/html/MV-1.htm

Rock solid, new caps too. :)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on June 21, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
I managed to pay around $200 for my voga supergun and mvs setup with memory cards, unibios and controllers. I don't recall the motherboard I used for the build, but it is one of the MVS boards that you could use the memory board support. Just need a damn enclosure, bare circuit boards no bueno. :)
Edit:
MV-1.
http://www.hardmvs.com/html/MV-1.htm

Rock solid, new caps too. :)


Did you build this yourself or buy it assembled?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: BigusSchmuck on June 21, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
I managed to pay around $200 for my voga supergun and mvs setup with memory cards, unibios and controllers. I don't recall the motherboard I used for the build, but it is one of the MVS boards that you could use the memory board support. Just need a damn enclosure, bare circuit boards no bueno. :)
Edit:
MV-1.
http://www.hardmvs.com/html/MV-1.htm

Rock solid, new caps too. :)


Did you build this yourself or buy it assembled?

If you mean assembling it, yeah I connected the super gun and memory card stuff to the board. lol I did make my own home made supergun, but I haven't done a whole lot with it yet. :) Very functional, about the only complaint its rather massive and bare.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: majors on June 22, 2016, 05:02:50 AM
I still wish and hope for a ever drive MVS or AES to be made.
Slight issue with that. Some games (looking at you Windjammers) have custom chips that cannot be Everdrive'd. Think of the Famicom games with kick ass audio using MM5 or VRC7. Plus, from what I understand, only the games that are currently on xxx-in-1's would be possible on a MVS flashcart...so, nothing you can't already get. Of course the hacker magicians never cease to amaze, so something might be brewed up to get around the issue of custom chips.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: BigusSchmuck on June 22, 2016, 12:47:20 PM
I still wish and hope for a ever drive MVS or AES to be made.
Slight issue with that. Some games (looking at you Windjammers) have custom chips that cannot be Everdrive'd. Think of the Famicom games with kick ass audio using MM5 or VRC7. Plus, from what I understand, only the games that are currently on xxx-in-1's would be possible on a MVS flashcart...so, nothing you can't already get. Of course the hacker magicians never cease to amaze, so something might be brewed up to get around the issue of custom chips.
I didn't realize the Neo used specialized chips lol. Had to research it for shits and giggles. https://wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=Category:Chips
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 22, 2016, 02:05:52 PM
I still wish and hope for a ever drive MVS or AES to be made.
Slight issue with that. Some games (looking at you Windjammers) have custom chips that cannot be Everdrive'd. Think of the Famicom games with kick ass audio using MM5 or VRC7. Plus, from what I understand, only the games that are currently on xxx-in-1's would be possible on a MVS flashcart...so, nothing you can't already get. Of course the hacker magicians never cease to amaze, so something might be brewed up to get around the issue of custom chips.
I didn't realize the Neo used specialized chips lol. Had to research it for shits and giggles. https://wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=Category:Chips

That was news to me as well. Guess it wasn't just Nintendo using special chips to push graphics and visual past system limitations.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: in99flames on June 22, 2016, 02:36:10 PM
Oops. I guess the neo geo x wasnt the best recommendation...I've never used one but it seemed like it would be something nice..sorry! Too bad its crappy :-(
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: EvilEvoIX on September 04, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
Neo Geo Multicart being made here, MVS and AES Variants.


http://www.arcade-projects.com/forums/index.php?board/31-neo-geo-multigame-cart/


(http://i63.tinypic.com/339sm1i.jpg)


(http://i64.tinypic.com/sltv84.jpg)


(http://i63.tinypic.com/2qirzo0.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/259cxuq.jpg)




     The Future is Now
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on September 04, 2016, 01:23:00 PM
I have so been waiting for exactly this
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: EvilEvoIX on September 04, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
I have so been waiting for exactly this


The Future has arrived. 
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 04, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
It was always a rich man's console...
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: esteban on September 04, 2016, 04:11:22 PM
It was always a rich man's console...

Yup. :(
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: johnnykonami on September 04, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
If I ever get my standup MVS cab, I might have to grab a multicart.  Not my preference, but pickin's have to be slim at this point.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Groover on September 04, 2016, 06:10:41 PM
I have been hearing about this (Neo Geo Multicart) on RetroRGB's weekly videos. It is going to be around $400. Not bad considering the cost of the library. I have been looking into getting a MVS and either consolize it or get one consolized and a 161 in 1 cart. but this Flash cart has me thinking I should get a Neo Geo before the year is out.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: blueraven on September 04, 2016, 10:35:58 PM
It was always a rich man's console...

#torpedosoftruth
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 05, 2016, 02:21:36 AM
It was always a rich man's console...
#torpedosoftruth

Heh-heh, you reminded me that I've actually been compared to Charlie Sheen - it was by an XSEED troll on the company's forums to insult me though. ;)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on September 05, 2016, 04:41:33 AM
This is interesting. I still haven't gotten around to buying a CMVS but with this I could get an AES instead.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: LETMEINPLEASE on September 05, 2016, 06:05:39 AM
Honestly if you arent into fighting games than the CD route is a good one to go. The S-Video Output on my CDZ looks great, Id say better or equal to the component out on my OMEGA. If you arent playing fighting games the load times are not bad, esp. on the CDZ. And some games on CD are dirt cheap. And if you want to, putting in a region switch is a breeze. But a multi cart on a CMVS is probably the best, cheapest way to play on real hardware.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: blueraven on September 05, 2016, 07:13:23 AM
It was always a rich man's console...
#torpedosoftruth

Heh-heh, you reminded me that I've actually been compared to Charlie Sheen - it was by an XSEED troll on the company's forums to insult me though. ;)

That was definitely not the intention. On the topic of Neo, I did just see your post on the Neo-Geo forums. I hope you get your money back from that guy. I was torn between laughing my ass off at your post, and realizing that he really did screw you over; as part of the "team" that lifted your work for profit. He deserves every bit of keyboard warrioring. I would say though that if you have an oral or email contract you could take him to small claims court?

Perhaps I'm dredging up demons that have been locked in a cave for 1000 years. If so, and it will just be a point of contention, I can drop the topic.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 05, 2016, 08:18:41 AM
I was torn between laughing my ass off at your post, and realizing that he really did screw you over; as part of the "team" that lifted your work for profit. He deserves every bit of keyboard warrioring. I would say though that if you have an oral or email contract you could take him to small claims court?

Perhaps I'm dredging up demons that have been locked in a cave for 1000 years. If so, and it will just be a point of contention, I can drop the topic.

No, that's exactly what they wanted (avoidance, silence on the subject, etc.); as long as I kept quiet, they (Tom Lipschultz included) mostly kept quiet, playing stupid ever since... I gave them silence for the first 2 years (I DID try to forget it ever happened!) which was a stupid thing to do in retrospect.

See, I only thought he exported the Felghana translated results initially, but then I learned he -- on XSEED's behalf -- kept unloading whatever our fan parternship had produced, Ys I, Ys II, Ys Origin, and he ALMOST got to unload Ys VI, a project we shelved due to Konami's PS2 port, but that also left him with translated results given my script extraction ideas, and translation software, that is, all the step 1 work hours on my part to initiate the translation process which XSEED's Tom denigrates as that of a "text delivery boy..."

You can realize the underhanded implication here, if there were >20 Falcom projects (they got away with it 4 times, and I thwarted the 5th with my phone calls to Ken Berry) between me and him, he would've unloaded everything produced, pocketing 100% corporate profit and credit in every case, and continuing direct silence towards me, making sure I was cheated even in crediting every step of the way, perpetually playing stupid forever more... That's how rotten, cruel -- just outright mean -- these monsters really are!!!!

The only reason he ceased his game of hide'n'seek after 3 years was because I started the public boycott on my website, and I got his first email demanding I delete all references to him on my website, and bluffing that he had hired a lawyer, claiming he had a valid libel lawsuit against me which would have a far greater chance of winning versus any grievances I had against him in conspiracy with XSEED Games!

The fact is, if these a$$holes couldn't do it right, they should've just worked with professional translation contractors or an internal staff, paid the full rates, just like any other business rather than set a horribly divisive precedent and expect me to just crawl away and live with it! No f*ck that, it took a while, but I decided I wasn't gonna take this bullshit lying down, that's 5 damn years of my life that were wasted on getting some petty, callous, cock-flashing, criminal cunt officially credited in the videogame industry without so much as a 'thank-you'!

Whatever happens, it's not gonna end with their prescribed outcome, I need to get going with a legal write-up document and do *something* rather than sit in anger while they try to ignore the problem away and hope I'll just give up!

/end tangent
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: BigusSchmuck on September 06, 2016, 02:42:05 AM
I was torn between laughing my ass off at your post, and realizing that he really did screw you over; as part of the "team" that lifted your work for profit. He deserves every bit of keyboard warrioring. I would say though that if you have an oral or email contract you could take him to small claims court?

Perhaps I'm dredging up demons that have been locked in a cave for 1000 years. If so, and it will just be a point of contention, I can drop the topic.

No, that's exactly what they wanted (avoidance, silence on the subject, etc.); as long as I kept quiet, they (Tom Lipschultz included) mostly kept quiet, playing stupid ever since... I gave them silence for the first 2 years (I DID try to forget it ever happened!) which was a stupid thing to do in retrospect.

See, I only thought he exported the Felghana translated results initially, but then I learned he -- on XSEED's behalf -- kept unloading whatever our fan parternship had produced, Ys I, Ys II, Ys Origin, and he ALMOST got to unload Ys VI, a project we shelved due to Konami's PS2 port, but that also left him with translated results given my script extraction ideas, and translation software, that is, all the step 1 work hours on my part to initiate the translation process which XSEED's Tom denigrates as that of a "text delivery boy..."

You can realize the underhanded implication here, if there were >20 Falcom projects (they got away with it 4 times, and I thwarted the 5th with my phone calls to Ken Berry) between me and him, he would've unloaded everything produced, pocketing 100% corporate profit and credit in every case, and continuing direct silence towards me, making sure I was cheated even in crediting every step of the way, perpetually playing stupid forever more... That's how rotten, cruel -- just outright mean -- these monsters really are!!!!

The only reason he ceased his game of hide'n'seek after 3 years was because I started the public boycott on my website, and I got his first email demanding I delete all references to him on my website, and bluffing that he had hired a lawyer, claiming he had a valid libel lawsuit against me which would have a far greater chance of winning versus any grievances I had against him in conspiracy with XSEED Games!

The fact is, if these a$$holes couldn't do it right, they should've just worked with professional translation contractors or an internal staff, paid the full rates, just like any other business rather than set a horribly divisive precedent and expect me to just crawl away and live with it! No f*ck that, it took a while, but I decided I wasn't gonna take this bullshit lying down, that's 5 damn years of my life that were wasted on getting some petty, callous, cock-flashing, criminal cunt officially credited in the videogame industry without so much as a 'thank-you'!

Whatever happens, it's not gonna end with their prescribed outcome, I need to get going with a legal write-up document and do *something* rather than sit in anger while they try to ignore the problem away and hope I'll just give up!

/end tangent

In other words, if XSEED does anything with the Neo Geo boycott them! :P Anyway, was thinking of taking a picture of my chaotic setup, will do upon request of the original poster. :)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on September 06, 2016, 09:18:26 AM
In other words, if XSEED does anything with the Neo Geo boycott them! :P Anyway, was thinking of taking a picture of my chaotic setup, will do upon request of the original poster. :)

Yes, of course!
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Rot on September 06, 2016, 10:12:25 AM
The way i see it Nightwolve...

...I'd prefer both sides of an argument... I read the Xseed stuff but more info would be appreciated (PM Me...)...

Don't forget... it was YOU that started this on the Deuce sales thread... I'm just containing it...

I don't type a wall of text... it's usually direct and to the point...

xROTx

PS. On Topic... NG gaming is high end atm... i agree... meh, I don't make the world I inhabit...
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Necromancer on September 06, 2016, 10:36:37 AM
There really aren't "two sides" to this story.  NW and D-Bag worked on the translations together, after which D-bag sold the finished work to xseed and used it to get a job with them, and NW was never credited with anything; the feigned ignorance and justifications from other xseed employees afterwards are beside the point.  These main points are easily verified, so the only question is whether or not you think D-Bag is justified in stealing the glory for himself because only the translated script is worth anything and the technical side of dumping/inserting the text is worthless.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Rot on September 06, 2016, 10:46:46 AM
There really aren't "two sides" to this story.  NW and D-Bag worked on the translations together, after which D-bag sold the finished work to xseed and used it to get a job with them, and NW was never credited with anything; the feigned ignorance and justifications from other xseed employees afterwards are beside the point.  These main points are easily verified, so the only question is whether or not you think D-Bag is justified in stealing the glory for himself because only the translated script is worth anything and the technical side of dumping/inserting the text is worthless.

Here's the thing... I would prefer a nice SUCCINCT post with facts and little bullet points...

I am not a stupid man... BUT if Deuce, Xseed... or whoever the f*ck is replying... he can answer the points in question without reading shit like "YOU ARE A f*ckING DIRTBAG, GIVE ME MY $550USD. NOW!!!!"

I am unsure what Aaron is thinking here... a mod should be able to seperate the drama from what is needed...

PCEFX for the main is a nice prosaic site... I have a lot of friends here... but seriously lads... can't you find some decent mods?

xROTx
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Gredler on September 06, 2016, 11:02:34 AM
but seriously lads... can't you find some decent mods?

Last night your Mom seemed pretty tuckered out, and her mouth was full, but she seems to be able to serve a lot of people and sort out the drama from what is "needed" and man, she certainly know's what's needed!

Edit:
Milk and cookies.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: synbiosfan on September 06, 2016, 11:31:49 AM
(PM Me...)

I wish madman could see this! :P
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: crazydean on September 06, 2016, 11:44:56 AM
I am unsure what Aaron is thinking here... a mod should be able to seperate the drama from what is needed...
xROTx

Agreed, please stop creating all of this unnecessary, off-topic bullshit. If you want to call someone out, take it to fighting street.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Necromancer on September 06, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Here's the thing... I would prefer a nice SUCCINCT post with facts and little bullet points...

I am not a stupid man...

I'm not sold on you being all that bright, seeing as my second sentence clearly delineated the salient points, but I'm sure I can dumb it down a bit further:

[ul][li]Deuce and NW worked together on translating some Ys games with Deuce doing the translating and NW doing the script dumping, insertion, etc.  I can't name exactly which titles or how many were done off the top of my head, but does it matter?[/li][li]Deuce took the work to x.seed, got paid for it, and got hired.  I can't say which happened first or if it was concurrent, but again, I can't see how it matters.[/li][li]NW has never been paid for his technical work or even given credit.[/li][li]Later there were several unprofessional communications from x.seed staffers (Lipschultz, Miller, and Deuce himself) that're really more funny than anything.  I'm sure NW has screenshots of all that stuff squirreled away somewhere, but it really isn't relevant and has no bearing on the validity of the first three points.[/li][/ul]
I doubt D-Bag would claim any of the above to be false (not intelligibly anyway), so you're left with a judgement call on whether or not NW deserved remuneration for his part.

BUT if Deuce, Xseed... or whoever the f*ck is replying... he can answer the points in question without reading shit like "YOU ARE A f*ckING DIRTBAG, GIVE ME MY $550USD. NOW!!!!"

Other than me calling him a d-bag instead of deuce (I'm such an ogre!), I didn't say anything even close to that.  If you're just going to make stuff up to 'prove' your point, you can drop the charade that you're conducting an unbiased investigation and toddle back to neogeo to proclaim another internet victory.

I am unsure what Aaron is thinking here... a mod should be able to seperate the drama from what is needed...

PCEFX for the main is a nice prosaic site... I have a lot of friends here... but seriously lads... can't you find some decent mods?

Oh noes, Rot doesn't like me!  Guess how many f*cks I give.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Rot on September 06, 2016, 11:04:58 PM
Last night your Mom seemed pretty tuckered out, and her mouth was full, but she seems to be able to serve a lot of people and sort out the drama from what is "needed" and man, she certainly know's what's needed!

Edit:
Milk and cookies.

Meh.. I say that in terms of flaming... That was pretty weak...

Infact, I assume that's why PCEFX has become what it is.. just children playing...

Oh noes, Rot doesn't like me!  Guess how many f*cks I give.

I don't dislike you... and that's maybe another reason why this forum is what it is...

Not thinking through a post without all the ramifications that was implied or infered...

However, I take notice of the way you have managed to fook up a great forum...

Sega16 has never recovered from the over modding that Bonuskun is trying to reverse...

I suggest you're not as intelligent as you sound either... you're forum is dead... I'd suggest you look at yourself and how you handle the forum first before commenting on how I feel about you..

xROTx
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Necromancer on September 07, 2016, 02:50:46 AM
Yep, I'm sure I ruined the forum by approving new members, updating high-score threads for dormant OPs, and moving misplaced threads (99% of moderation actions taken).  :lol:

If you want to continue to bitch about me and/or this forum, start a thread somewhere else.  This thread has been derailed enough.




Neo Geo Multicart being made here, MVS and AES Variants.

http://www.arcade-projects.com/forums/index.php?board/31-neo-geo-multigame-cart/


Like a neo ever drive, right?  'Tis sexy but that price is pretty steep compared to the xxx-in-one booties, especially since it only holds four games at a time.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Otaking on September 07, 2016, 03:13:43 AM
IMO if it wasn't for Necro and others this forum would of ended up like NintendoAge but with TurboGrafx and PC Engine.
Over the last few years most of the new members arriving seemed interested in the hobby more from a collecting aspect as opposed to the old timers here who are more interested in playing the games.

That's why I hate, hate the Facebook groups where everyone just posts pictures of their latest pick ups, game rooms or teh rarez. It is the NintendoAge of PC Engine. 

Rot as Necro said I think you should start a new thread.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: bob on September 07, 2016, 04:37:14 AM

I suggest you're not as intelligent as you sound either... you're forum is dead...
xROTx

lol... It's "your"
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Gredler on September 07, 2016, 04:57:18 AM

Meh.. I say that in terms of flaming... That was pretty weak...

Infact, I assume that's why PCEFX has become what it is.. just children playing...

Hahaha watch out everyone, only the most legit and siriyuss posts allowed, children can gtfo.

Thanks for the critique rot, maybe I should take selfies on front of a wall of other people's creations to flame you and prove my elite flaming skilllllzzzzz
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: DarkKobold on September 08, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
This flame war is disappointing me. Can we take it to Fighting Street and kick it up a few notches?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Gredler on September 08, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
This flame war is disappointing me. Can we take it to Fighting Street and kick it up a few notches?


(http://i.imgur.com/XEPg9eG.gif)
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 11, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
The way i see it Nightwolve... ...I'd prefer both sides of an argument... I read the Xseed stuff but more info would be appreciated (PM Me...)... Don't forget... it was YOU that started this on the Deuce sales thread... I'm just containing it...

The XSEED side is excuses, red herring arguments, denialism, "my PayPal icon" etc. They did it quickly, secretly, I was the last to know anything - I found out about it 2 weeks later from a disgruntled XSEED translation contractor emailing me, John Sears, asking me how much XSEED paid DeuceBag and myself, and notice that he naturally assumed BOTH of us had been contacted and paid, but he was wrong and I didn't know what he was talking about...

John wanted to know what XSEED paid us because he felt they lowballed him to translate "Legend of Heroes VI: First Chapter," which has one of the largest scripts in videogame history. He felt they were "cheaping" him, they were cheapskates (which I agree), and wanted inside payment info, of course, companies use NDAs to block workers form revealing/sharing salaries/payments, so I wouldn't have been able to tell him anything anyways. Only DeuceBag knows what he pocketed for the 4 scripts in question, Ys I, Ys II, Felghana and Ys Origin, and he went into silence with me for 3 years, playing stupid ever since as mentioned...

OK, why did they cheat me ? What's the simple answer ? Public relations - Tom Lipschultz, who hated me, presented me as an embarrassment to the company, his coworkers, etc. Tom was part of a double-cross with DeuceBag before he was hired by the company as well, and he told his company about that too. He told them about the drama 3 years back when my Felghana patch was leaked, that I made mean troll posts, used all that against me, and he sent them to my website where, at the time, the last post had a photo of my middle finger, Joe Redifer style (http://www.ysutopia.net/images/YsFanFU_min.png)...

Tom generalized me as an embarrassment, a PR problem of association, and told them how DeuceBag was willing to export Ys Origin to Tom's programmer in secret after starting the project with me, breaking our partnership, and that he could export the previous Ys translations we had produced together much in the same way for the company, and that's what they did... I was rendered "persona non grata," you get the idea...

Now what Tom reported for me, is just as important as what he omitted for DeuceBag... He didn't send his company links to DeuceBag's cock-shots at the NeoGeo forums which was his main homebase... He just presented him as the "good guy" and me the "bad guy" and got me "blacklisted" essentially. His grudge became the company's grudge.

Ultimately, XSEED preferred to only have to pay 1 person, instead of 2, there's that too, and Tom provided all the possible excuses in the world, defining me by any negative posts, generalizing me as unprofessional, etc. They thought they could cheat me "fair'n'square" by disingenuous "typing games" whereby he who typed the English text "wins" (DeuceBag), and he who was just a text delivery boy "loses" (me). So, Jeff typed all the English text, give him 100% credit/profit, NightWolve just delivered Japanese text that already existed, so right there is an easy excuse/red herring for them to hide behind should I ever protest. Don't judge it by "work hours" they arbitrarily say, no no no, just judge it by a "typing game" and ignore Tom's bias and grudge for me...

It's also worth noting, something else I learned over the years, Tom has indeed succeeded in using XSEED to carry out a personal "Friends v. Enemies" List... If you're Tom's friend, he can get you credited for the smallest of things.

1) Psycho Kirsten "omgfloofy" Miller, one of the most relentless trolls I ever ran into, he got her credited, no amount of embarrassing cyber-bullying behavior on her part matters, because he excluded that in his presentation. 2) Michael Cunningham was credited just for letting Tom borrow a Lunar SegaCD. 3) Keith "GameMusicFreak" was credited just for letting Tom download material from the Chinese Celceta DVD PC game... Keith is a nice guy, never had a problem with him, just reporting how Tom has operated with other people versus the "special treatment" that I got...

So, for the smallest of things, if you know him from Ys forums, and can do something for him, he'll get you credited, me, a person he hated, for thousands of my work hours, my translation software, commissioning the production of those translations, starting the projects, recruiting the cock-flasher to translate...for me, ZERO CREDIT, and just excuses ever since...

This is Tom Lipschultz' "WyrdWad" account and what he posted when somebody erased me from the Credits I added to one of the games in question:

(http://www.ysutopia.net/images/TomLipschultzOnACreditXCISE.png)

The guy was feuding with me publicly and privately at least 2 years before he got the job at XSEED and this is the background on how it all happened. Pulled the same shit with his company, so yes, DeuceBag isn't the only criminal culprit, it was a duo of deucebags at work and you had a conspiracy at work given their conniving nature!

Well, I hope this gives you more of an idea, but you seem to be unable to decide how interested you are in this story to justify reading article-length posts you deem "too long..." This IS a lengthy story, if you care to learn more, but yeah...
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: blueraven on September 11, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Wow, man. That's truly insane. I would have just filed in small claims court. I'd check with a lawyer soon: just call a contract lawyer in your state, and in the state where the contract was issued (or google it) to see if they can answer a few questions for free. I know that if you have a small claim in CA, where I live, the statute of limitations is 2 years to file a claim for an oral contract and 5 for written.. but I'm not a lawyer, just an informed citizen.

...I learned this the hard way when my LLC got burned for $800+ worth of website work back in 2008. I tried file a claim in 2010, and was about 3 months too late. The statute of limitations had expired and the guy basically laughed at me. We had a contract made over the phone, an oral agreement, and there was no mention of monetary exchange in our emails because he was 60, literally twice my age +6 and barely knew how to use a computer. His wife would send his emails for him and had no clue how to rename images.

After saying he wouldn't pay me, the son of a bitch he then told me about his newly restored Harley Davidson.

...and we had a chance meeting with mutual business associates in 2011. Our associate was privy and knew that he had burned me, and asked us both to keep the drama out of the meeting. He brought a bodyguard that he claimed was working for him "To do the heavy lifting". I couldn't f*cking believe it. I ate crow for the entire 3 hours, and in the end it was my fault for not taking action soon enough. Not as high-profile as a complete game translation; it was about 30 hours worth of work and a day of travel time. I had to let that one go.

Sometimes you get burned, man. Hard. And it sucks not getting credit for your work. I'd call an attorney to find out if you have a claim. At least you'll have an answer.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Punch on September 12, 2016, 03:20:24 AM
Meh.. I say that in terms of flaming... That was pretty weak...

Infact, I assume that's why PCEFX has become what it is.. just children playing...

I don't dislike you... and that's maybe another reason why this forum is what it is...

Not thinking through a post without all the ramifications that was implied or infered...

However, I take notice of the way you have managed to fook up a great forum...

Sega16 has never recovered from the over modding that Bonuskun is trying to reverse...

I suggest you're not as intelligent as you sound either... you're forum is dead... I'd suggest you look at yourself and how you handle the forum first before commenting on how I feel about you..

xROTx

lol rot still thinks that people outside of his neo clique will kiss his ass. f*ck up a forum? You have no idea what you're talking about you drunken f*ck. Everytime I go to neo-geo.com I can see you threatening someone of a ban just because he disagrees with you, with posts like "I'm not going to do it because I'm in a good mood blablabla". I think you're looking at the wrong "overmodded" forum.

This forum is so overmodded that I would only be banned by necro if I copy and pasted full threads from a neonazi site or something. I see necro clashing with users here all the time but I've never see him threatening a ban even once. Compare that to a certain forum where people have to riot in order to make a mod reverse a retarded permaban by rolling back the server database.  If necro posted exactly like you did here at neo-geo.com he would have been banned at first sight.

"you're forum is dead..." says a newfag with 20 posts and no interest on NEC consoles whatsoever. Thanks for the deep, detailed analysis of the site. We are just children playing guys, we aren't big tymers on the internet. I'm going to create a thread for a collective suicide @ nullity's house, let the superior site about a 90's overpriced toy reign the land.

edit: lol at the namedropping. AARON NANTO SAVE ME PLS!
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Medic_wheat on September 12, 2016, 04:29:46 AM
So. Neo Geo.


Brining "affordable" Neo Geo to the masses.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: ginoscope on September 12, 2016, 05:41:29 AM
A friend just dropped off a free non working 2 slot mvs cab with 8 games.  It doesn't power on but the board looks ok.  I removed the battery as it looks like it was starting to leak.  Not sure if there is anyway to test the board without the monitor working.

I tried to connect the board to the cab but it looks like the monitor is not coming on.  I see the red led on the board but that is about it.  Gives me hope the board is not dead.   I just got it yesterday so have not had a ton of time to trouble shoot but any tips would be welcome.

Leaning towards consolizing the board with the option of also using it in the cab once I get that going.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: geise on September 12, 2016, 05:42:55 AM
I like neo-geo.com for what it is, but man for everyone trying to act all big it's full of pussies complaining all the damn time.  All the "ban please" is so old.  LOL at Rot calling out necro about modding.  He doesn't realize this is the most unmodded forum on the internet related to gaming.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Punch on September 12, 2016, 08:58:22 AM
Lol Punch... I'm all for the group suicide at my place, but I have to object to your claim of Necro not threatening bans.

I never saw him going through with any of his threats though.

Hint: Those two week vacations he offers aren't really vacations.  :P

:(
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Necromancer on September 12, 2016, 10:08:35 AM
It happens but it's not a common occurrence, nor do I think they were unreasonable.  In the last two years that I've been a mod, there's been seven bans:  a spambot (other subsequent spambots instead had their accounts deleted outright), xray (nazi weirdo), madboom and ninja (scammers), and three short term bans for poor forum etiquette.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: geise on September 12, 2016, 01:09:25 PM
^ Well damn!  This might as well be North Korea.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: wiseau on September 12, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
xray (nazi weirdo)
Just curious, so was this guy banned for having the wrong opinions or did he scam some schmuck on the form like the other two.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Gypsy on September 12, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
Meh.. I say that in terms of flaming... That was pretty weak...

Infact, I assume that's why PCEFX has become what it is.. just children playing...

I don't dislike you... and that's maybe another reason why this forum is what it is...

Not thinking through a post without all the ramifications that was implied or infered...

However, I take notice of the way you have managed to fook up a great forum...

Sega16 has never recovered from the over modding that Bonuskun is trying to reverse...

I suggest you're not as intelligent as you sound either... you're forum is dead... I'd suggest you look at yourself and how you handle the forum first before commenting on how I feel about you..

xROTx


lol rot still thinks that people outside of his neo clique will kiss his ass. f*ck up a forum? You have no idea what you're talking about you drunken f*ck. Everytime I go to neo-geo.com I can see you threatening someone of a ban just because he disagrees with you, with posts like "I'm not going to do it because I'm in a good mood blablabla". I think you're looking at the wrong "overmodded" forum.

This forum is so overmodded that I would only be banned by necro if I copy and pasted full threads from a neonazi site or something. I see necro clashing with users here all the time but I've never see him threatening a ban even once. Compare that to a certain forum where people have to riot in order to make a mod reverse a retarded permaban by rolling back the server database.  If necro posted exactly like you did here at neo-geo.com he would have been banned at first sight.

"you're forum is dead..." says a newfag with 20 posts and no interest on NEC consoles whatsoever. Thanks for the deep, detailed analysis of the site. We are just children playing guys, we aren't big tymers on the internet. I'm going to create a thread for a collective suicide @ nullity's house, let the superior site about a 90's overpriced toy reign the land.

edit: lol at the namedropping. AARON NANTO SAVE ME PLS!


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Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Punch on September 12, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
xray (nazi weirdo)
Just curious, so was this guy banned for having the wrong opinions or did he scam some schmuck on the form like the other two.

He was banned for selling Nazi swastika neon signs as far as I know, but anyway, how's your sex life?
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 12, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
Lol Punch... I'm all for the group suicide at my place, but I have to object to your claim of Necro not threatening bans. Hint: Those two week vacations he offers aren't really vacations.  :P

The people Necro bans are legit human trash, and usually he doesn't even mention it.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 12, 2016, 01:50:53 PM
xray (nazi weirdo)
Just curious, so was this guy banned for having the wrong opinions or did he scam some schmuck on the form like the other two.

He was banned for selling Nazi swastika neon signs as far as I know, but anyway, how's your sex life?

Yeah, this is the actual sort of trash I was thinking of. I heard that guy got trampled to death at a Trump rally when someone said "free wings". What a way to go.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 12, 2016, 03:52:36 PM
I will say, I appreciate that xRotx has allowed me to get in DeuceBag's face on the NeoGeo forums and thwart his sales thread. I knew there was possible risk of reprimand, but he figured to just move the thread to their War Room (our Fighting Street equivalent) and allow the flaming to continue there which is fair enough.

Basically, in 2011, DeuceBag sort-of rage quit the forum, that's after his cock-shot, said he wouldn't be logging back in there, but out of the blue, he recently showed up this year, made a few blending-in comments like nothing happened, then made a sales thread to pass off unwanted games. Awfully convenient when he needs his NeoGeo comrades after accusing them in the general sense of deliberately viewing his linked cock-shot.

Anyway, I saw the thread, decided to take Barack Obama's advice about "getting in their faces" because of DeuceBag's continued evasiveness/ignore/pretend-he-did-nothing-wrong/etc keeping 100% corporate profit that he made off my IT work hours, translation software, etc. He shouldn't have peace when he shows up in nonchalant fashion in places and I gave him too many years of ignoring him...

Here's the thread: http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?267175-Multiple-SNK-Dreamcast-games-for-sale-Op-60-40-is-a-Deuce_bag

I checked back today and he actually posted, so I succeeded in finally really rattling the criminal's cage into exposing more of his thought patterns behind the criminal deals with XSEED Games! I'll have plenty to respond to this week, but as usual, DeuceBag prefers to quickly find the exit with none of his views/opinions challenged/debated publicly in back'n'forth fashion; he escapes after making mostly arrogant or half-truth statements and allows for no counter-point. First thing he said was he put me on ignore, and last thing makes clear he won't return for any rebuttals. That's how the monster rolls and has since those deals took place!
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Gypsy on September 13, 2016, 01:07:51 AM
I know it's not the point but lol at some of his prices. I can go pay $32 for Last Blade 2 JP right now (paid $29 last year). It'd take longer to get sure, but for that kind of difference I'd do it.

I also appreciate the f*cking irony of his user title "Death Before Dishonesty".

Holy shit at Deuce's last post in that thread. A lot of wild accusations in there.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: Necromancer on September 13, 2016, 03:09:13 AM
Just curious, so was this guy banned for having the wrong opinions or did he scam some schmuck on the form like the other two.

Before I was a mod, he was outed as a white supremacist nazi weirdo and left of his own accord.  He decided to come back about three years later, started in with general trolling and a racist comment or two, earning himself the boot.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: EvilEvoIX on September 13, 2016, 01:25:04 PM
He's replied to NightWolve on the Neo-Geo forums:

Quote from: DeuceBag;4110778
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?267175-Multiple-SNK-Dreamcast-games-for-sale-Op-60-40-is-a-Deuce_bag&p=4110778&viewfull=1#post4110778


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Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: BigusSchmuck on September 15, 2016, 04:15:33 PM
He's replied to NightWolve on the Neo-Geo forums:
Bunch of text



Jesus dude, what a way to derail a thread. Just because it has Neo Geo in the title doesn't mean its ok to bring in the neo forums drama.
Title: Re: Want to play Neo Geo, but it's so expensive
Post by: NightWolve on September 16, 2016, 03:32:10 AM
Alright, I linked that "content" back to his NeoGeo thread, plus I'd rather my response to his wild generalizations be there with it [eventually] before his post is pasted around by itself.