Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System Bring back memories and make brand new ones with Nintendo's ultimate retro gaming experience, launching 11th November! Relive the 80s when the Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System launches in stores on 11th November. The classic NES is back in a familiar-yet-new form as a mini replica of Nintendo’s original home console. Plugging directly into a high-definition TV using the included HDMI cable, the console comes complete with 30 NES games built-in, including beloved classics like Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, PAC-MAN and Kirby’s Adventure. The Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System comes packaged with an HDMI cable, a USB cable for powering the system*, and one Nintendo Classic Mini: NES Controller. And whether it’s rediscovering an old favourite or experiencing the joy of NES for the first time, the fantastic collection of NES classics included with each and every system should have something for all players.
Balloon Fight™ BUBBLE BOBBLE Castlevania™ Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest™ Donkey Kong™ Donkey Kong Jr. ™ DOUBLE DRAGON II: THE REVENGE Dr. Mario™ Excitebike™ FINAL FANTASY® Galaga™ GHOSTS’N GOBLINS® GRADIUS™ Ice Climber™ Kid Icarus™ Kirby’s Adventure™ Mario Bros. ™ MEGA MAN® 2 Metroid™ NINJA GAIDEN PAC-MAN™ Punch-Out!! ™ Featuring Mr. Dream StarTropics™ SUPER C™ Super Mario Bros.™ Super Mario Bros. ™ 2 Super Mario Bros. ™ 3 TECMO BOWL The Legend of Zelda™ Zelda II: The Adventure of Link™
I guess all those games will be emulated and the controller ports looks like wii ones.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 03:36:48 AM
What I don't get is this. Why emulation? Isn't technology at a point where they can just recreat a OLD systems architecture with in a single chip or something? There by excluding the need for emulation which is prob to glitching and not replicating the hardware as goodb
Then just have some sort of optimizer so it will output on a modern HDMI the or some such thing?
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Post by: Necromancer on July 14, 2016, 03:40:50 AM
It sure is cute and there's something to be said for the roms being legitimate (if you care about such things), but I'd stick with emulation on a PC, modded original xbox, etc.
And why emulation? Because why not emulation. Most people that'd buy this won't notice emulation inaccuracies or care, so why bother with the added expense?
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 03:51:05 AM
It sure is cute and there's something to be said for the roms being legitimate (if you care about such things), but I'd stick with emulation on a PC, modded original xbox, etc.
And why emulation? Because why not emulation. Most people that'd buy this won't notice emulation inaccuracies or care, so why bother with the added expense?
You are probably on point with the rational as to why.
It's just dang it. It's Nintendo. Lol don't they have some engenders with access to their NES hardware plans and what not that could go ok. We recreated everything including the CPU and PPU on a board the size of your hand. And we will release bundled collection games on DS sized cards.
EVRYONE run out and buy this.
I guess it is because we are the minority when it comes to hard ware. This is just like those Genesis mini things. Quick cheap cash ins for people to buy with a lose $80 bill and enjoy for a weekend then forget toss in the garage and then resell for $20 at the next garage sale the following summer.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 03:54:53 AM
I guess it will take a week and modern will have found a way to slide a SD card with all the roms on it to play on this mini system since it can't play original cartridges which even the sega flash back what ever can do.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: sirhcman on July 14, 2016, 03:59:34 AM
I don't see myself picking this up but it would have been a no brainer for me if they would have made it where I can play my actual carts on it. Is there going to be a SD card slot or something for future titles? I would like to get more info on it!
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 04:03:27 AM
I just looked up an article and there is something interesting no one seems to have jumped on.
The controllor it comes with.
If it feels like the original which it looked exactly like there is a lot of potential for new OEM controllers. The cable is for the WiiU pro kind so it has the benefit of being used in the WiiU as a NES style NES eshop controllor.
And if it can be modded or available as a Bluetooth controllor it would pair nicely with the 8 but USB NES controllor stick that just came out by retro 8 bit.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 04:06:09 AM
I don't see myself picking this up but it would have been a no brainer for me if they would have made it where I can play my actual carts on it. Is there going to be a SD card slot or something for future titles? I would like to get more info on it!
There isn't much out apart from sizzle promo articles with almost no real info. They are just fluff articles based on what Nintendo gave them to publish. So far there is just the mock up pictures of it fitting in the palm of a hand and of the packaging for the systems and controlor.
I am sure once it is out to market someone will open the system up to see if a sd card reader can be put in it or what have you so you cans use the emulator it is using to dump the roms onto it. It's be interested to learn what type of emulator they are using or if it is the same one used for Wii and WiiU. Most likely the same.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 04:08:06 AM
I feel they should have made the controllor a to be Bluetooth. The system is so tiny there is probably next to no weight to keep it in place with a cord and controllor yanking the system like clothes on the cloths line on a windy day.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on July 14, 2016, 04:15:02 AM
I just looked up an article and there is something interesting no one seems to have jumped on.
The controllor it comes with.
If it feels like the original which it looked exactly like there is a lot of potential for new OEM controllers. The cable is for the WiiU pro kind so it has the benefit of being used in the WiiU as a NES style NES eshop controllor.
And if it can be modded or available as a Bluetooth controllor it would pair nicely with the 8 but USB NES controllor stick that just came out by retro 8 bit.
OK...but I am worried that all the controllers (first-party and third-party) will be of low build quality.
:(
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: KingDrool on July 14, 2016, 05:29:36 AM
I'm gonna buy this thing simply for the neat-o factor.
Oh, and I'd like to steal a quote from a friend of mine:
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Somewhere, Mike Kennedy is figuring out a way to put a Coleco sticker on it...
ZING!
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on July 14, 2016, 05:45:17 AM
Raspberry pi is the way to go. Emulates just about everything very nicely.
You can even get a NES housing for the pi.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Necromancer on July 14, 2016, 05:47:38 AM
Oh, and I'd like to steal a quote from a friend of mine:
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Somewhere, Mike Kennedy is figuring out a way to put a Coleco sticker on it...
ZING!
Ha! That's pure gold.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Groover on July 14, 2016, 06:06:38 AM
I think I would get it for the novalty. I will still play NES games on my NES. I have a nice setup with the NES being RGB modded and connected to the XRGB-mini.
I don't think this will give you the best results but it could be convenient enough to use. I want to see the controller. If it uses standard classic controllers then I am ok but the controller is not great I should get a pro controller. Also the cable is not very long.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: xelement5x on July 14, 2016, 06:43:19 AM
Looks neat but the emulation quality will be the big question. I'll wait for it to come out and hardware hackers to mess with it before I make a decision to buy. But it seems pretty unlikely.
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Post by: csgx1 on July 14, 2016, 07:26:40 AM
Definitely looks cool. It's a shame that there's not a cart slot. I'd still be interested on how well this thing works.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esadajr on July 14, 2016, 08:45:16 AM
They should make the damn carts, and don't tell me they can't do it because it's too expensive. The chinese bootleggers are making great quality repros of all those crazy ass expensive collectard tities.
I maybe interested in getting a controller if it works on the Wii but that's about it.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Punch on July 14, 2016, 09:20:40 AM
I'm gonna buy this thing simply for the neat-o factor.
Oh, and I'd like to steal a quote from a friend of mine:
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Somewhere, Mike Kennedy is figuring out a way to put a Coleco sticker on it...
ZING!
Wow the coleco chameleon really did send a statement to console manufacturers all right. I want to buy one just to get my ass owned by Ghosts and Goblins again but as null said, it is more logical to buy a NES + Everdrive/PowerPak.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Black Tiger on July 14, 2016, 09:38:49 AM
The shell might be neat to use for something like a consolized GBA.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 14, 2016, 10:10:48 AM
I'm getting it because I'm dying to see how well engineered a Famiclone can be. Nintendo doesn't make substandard stuff like Neo Geo X (which, for all the hate, is by far the nicest system of its kind that I've ever used) or the 35 different mini Genesis systems with garbage controllers and the same 8 games in them. I'd expect the pad to be extremely authentic.
As for emulation...seriously, you probably can't even get Energy Star complied with an actual NES and if you don't tell people they'll never know. Fancy FPGA type stuff isn't much different than software emulation in the grand scheme of things assuming the power is there. I expect the emulation will be very good. While I rarely buy NES ROMs I've had zero problem with the emulation quality of other systems on Virtual Console. I have Super Mario Bros for Wii U and I've never noticed garbled sound or any other problems really. I'm not saying it doesn't occur, just that I've never noticed it. My NES fandom is very casual.
Btw, what a nice game list.
Also, I have the TvC Wii stick and it looks like it will work with this, maybe, so that will be the nicest NES controller I've ever used.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: bob on July 14, 2016, 10:16:17 AM
i am surprised as well by the licensed games being included. the sega one was junk, but i have hope nintendo themselves will put at least a little bit of quality behind it. they actually care about their brand and reputation. would be awesome if it played carts too. doubt i will buy one since there is no need, but kudos to them for reaching back.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Necromancer on July 14, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
Agreed on the games list quality. No filler and lots of classics.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Punch on July 14, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
Agreed on the games list quality. No filler and lots of classics.
Yeah, all games are excellent and worth the $60. I'd pay the same for a "NES Classics" discs for my PS4 if it had all those titles, that's for sure.
I think I saw someone theorizing that it could be a butchered NDS inside since all games from the announcement @ Nintendo site points to the 3DS shop equivalent. Wonder if that's what's going to happen. Then again I don't even know if any of that is true so bla bla grain of salt bla
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: bartre on July 14, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
I'm happy the controllers work with other stuff. other than that, It's probably going to be no better than a raspberry Pi.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 14, 2016, 11:17:39 AM
Agreed on the games list quality. No filler and lots of classics.
Yeah, all games are excellent and worth the $60. I'd pay the same for a "NES Classics" discs for my PS4 if it had all those titles, that's for sure.
I think I saw someone theorizing that it could be a butchered NDS inside since all games from the announcement @ Nintendo site points to the 3DS shop equivalent. Wonder if that's what's going to happen. Then again I don't even know if any of that is true so bla bla grain of salt bla
That seems like more work that it's worth. It's probably ARM based but more powerful.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TR0N on July 14, 2016, 11:21:31 AM
Looks neat but the emulation quality will be the big question. I'll wait for it to come out and hardware hackers to mess with it before I make a decision to buy. But it seems pretty unlikely.
This if it ends up like a atgames clone console id pass on it.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SuperDeadite on July 14, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
Considering that this is announced only for NA and Europe with no Japanese release even hinted at, I'd be a bit skeptical of the quality... either way not buying one as I already have RGB fami and all the games I want.
Probably the best feature of this thing is that if it is heavily advertised with commercials aimed at young kids, we could see a revolution in the game development world. If kids put down their parents smartphones and really eat this up, Sony and Microsoft will surely take notice.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: geise on July 14, 2016, 01:57:35 PM
...so it's about the size of a PC-Engine.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 14, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
Seems Nintendo answered a few questions
Systems doesn't open up to accept physical media
Is not designed to accept a SD card.
Is a stand alone unite so no updates firmware or internet connect ability.
No plans to allow the system to accept new games
No plans to release additional games
No comment if they are planning anythjng similar for the SNES or N64
No comment if they plan to release any revisions of this system with additional games.
Seems like it has some missed opportunities out of the gate. However this is most likely just to test the waters before hey release anything more substantial.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on July 14, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
they should have replaced castlevania 2 with castlevania 3 instead. Plus with today's technology, i think they could have added quite a bit more games than just 30 but still looks cool anyways.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SuperGrafx on July 14, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
This is the best gaming news I've heard in a long time. Totally stoked and planning to buy one on launch
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: geise on July 14, 2016, 02:12:37 PM
No new games is going to kill sales.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on July 14, 2016, 02:39:29 PM
Are the games going to be in original aspect ratio or stretched?
I think the quality of the games is good, but not as great as people are saying. Tecmo Bowl and not Tecmo Super Bowl? Castlevania 2 and not 3? Super C and no Contra?
They should've made it so it could accept a cartridge and sold 30 game volumes for $40. Or made it so each amiibo was a NES game, so you basically paid $13 per game and got some nice plastic with it.
Will I buy it? Absolutely. Could it have been much better fairly easily? You bet.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 14, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
Will I buy it? Absolutely. Could it have been much better fairly easily? You bet.
I've drafted about 5 posts to this thread and deleted them all because I couldn't properly describe my issues and intentions for this, thanks for taking the words out of the mouth I couldn't put them into... wait, what?
But yeah, it could've been better but I don't own any "all in one" or whatever you want to call these things (atari flashback, the genesis that DOES take carts, etc)
I think this will be good for just having in a spare bedroom for guests, and for when I dont want to supervise kids with a stack of 30 games and a nes but they want to play games.
will it be amazing, I doubt it, will it be a cool nick nack to have around and play a few times, probably.
The wii controllers seem like the best value - use that bad boy on my wii u for dracula x on my hdtv? yes please :)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 14, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
Are the games going to be in original aspect ratio or stretched?
I think the quality of the games is good, but not as great as people are saying. Tecmo Bowl and not Tecmo Super Bowl? Castlevania 2 and not 3? Super C and no Contra?
They should've made it so it could accept a cartridge and sold 30 game volumes for $40. Or made it so each amiibo was a NES game, so you basically paid $13 per game and got some nice plastic with it.
Will I buy it? Absolutely. Could it have been much better fairly easily? You bet.
I hope that stretched comment was a joke. Have you ever played a VC title before? They run on systems that are naive wide and always run 4:3. Stretching games is for shitheads. Nintendo is not shitheads.
Of course, things are completely upside down in video game land so who knows? Maybe I'm mega wrong. Pretty much every game company I've ever liked is dead or worse. Maybe Nintendo is next, but I don't think so. When I saw this thing anounced I assumed it would be extremely well done since Nintendo is a company that (unlike many others) knows how to make money off their past while protecting it at the same time. A farmed out Neo Geo X kinda thing would shit can all that. It wasn't until I checked this place and Twitter that I found most people making the default assumption that this is going to be some glop topped FOC with shitty d-pads and all the other shortcomings of the 1000 or so of garbage all-in-one systems. When has Nintendo ever outsourced hardware this important and this much of a potential earner? Assuming a world wide launch this is easily a $1B bill that Nintendo has printed themselves, but not if it's junk. Hype dies down when it's junk and so will sales. I'm pretty sure this is in-house all the way short of actual manufacture. They even made the Pocket Pikachus and shit like that. I don't think it's going to be bad at all. I was assuming a totally new ARM based system that they made themselves running a special version of their in-house emulators which are extremely good, IMO. I don't expect a text based front end with 1000 games listed with 960 of them being duplicates.
Castlevania 3 is idiotic, btw. If you're going to have one CV game, 3 should not be it. It's the weird f*cked up one with the pirate suit and shit, right? I'm sure it's fine for some people but it's not the representative CV game.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on July 14, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Castlevania 3 is idiotic, btw. If you're going to have one CV game, 3 should not be it. It's the weird f*cked up one with the pirate suit and shit, right? I'm sure it's fine for some people but it's not the representative CV game.
Now I am absolutely covinced that you've either suffered head trauma in the past, are on drugs, need drugs, or just try to be asinine.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 14, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
Have you played the 3 NES Castlevania? I am of the openion that the third one is the best. It's very similar to the first game but much longer and much better overall presentation. You do get multiple characters but they are completely optional, and none look like a pirate suit to me; maybe you're thinking of the theif character that looks like a hunchback enemy?
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on July 14, 2016, 04:30:23 PM
Have you played the 3 NES Castlevania? I am of the openion that the third one is the best. It's very similar to the first game but much longer and much better overall presentation. You do get multiple characters but they are completely optional, and none look like a pirate suit to me; maybe you're thinking of the theif character that looks like a hunchback enemy?
I love all the Castlevanias on NES.
I played them as they were released...
And Castlevania 3 is definitely awesome.
:)
Zeta will give Castlevania 3 another chance, don't worry.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Black Tiger on July 14, 2016, 05:06:46 PM
Castlevania 2 is a good choice to balance out the genres. They should have licensed a couple more RPGs (at least a Dragon Warrior). Castlevania 3 would have been a better choice than the original. Contra should be included before Super C.
What's missing and included makes it look like they plan to re-release it each year with a different set of 3rd party games mixed in.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 14, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
Yeah, that's maybe a schedule made to dovetail with something else. Hopefully something with Earthbound Zero, Clash at Demonhead, RC Pro Am, Donkey Kong III, Pinball, River City Ransom, and Master Blaster.
See? I have taste.
As for CVIII there *is* a f*cking pirate, I looked it up on Wikipedia. f*ck you.
But I will give the game another shot. To me it seemed like...the same thing that's wrong with Somic Adventure 2. Too much distraction and not enough forward movement. Maybe the first game like this. I didn't play it until maybe 10 years ago since I was not on the NES in 1991. I never really was but my then neither were my friends so it was Genesis mostly.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TR0N on July 14, 2016, 07:45:54 PM
What's missing and included makes it look like they plan to re-release it each year with a different set of 3rd party games mixed in.
I'm puzzled by that as well no contra but super c instead,why not both !? Then again contra never came to the virtual console either.I wonder what konami problem is for licensing that game out.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 14, 2016, 08:01:39 PM
What's missing and included makes it look like they plan to re-release it each year with a different set of 3rd party games mixed in.
I'm puzzled by that as well no contra but super c instead,why not both !? Then again contra never came to the virtual console either.I wonder what konami problem is for licensing that game out.
I am ignorant about this but I assume they had a budget and had to secure licenses, and for some reason I think the cost of super C vs "contra" lol.
f*cking konami, that's who I blame.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: ClodBuster on July 14, 2016, 08:41:56 PM
On the Wii, all the VC games I played so far (NES, TG-16) run extremely faithful to the original. Heck, Nintendo even included the PAL gameplay+music slowdown in games which were affected, e.g. Castlevania 1, if you live in Europe, since they just used the crusty old PAL roms there instead of NTSC ones. Thankfully any title non-native to EU still runs at 60Hz on the PAL region VC, like all Turbo ones. Later PAL games often had less-to-now slowdown. I play them on a 4:3 aspect ratio CRT, where there's no stretching involved and the pixels are sharp as a butcher's knife.
I know the original Wii had some scaling issues when set to 16:9 and playing Konami's Rebirth WiiWare titles, where the screen got blurry. Setting the console to 4:3 in the system's menu was mandatory.
I think that Mini NES might be worth even just for those seemingly Wii-Mote compatible controllers, if the price is right.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 14, 2016, 08:44:14 PM
A friend of mine hypothesized that the system might be Wii based. That would explain a lot of things.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on July 15, 2016, 01:18:01 AM
As for CVIII there *is* a f*cking pirate, I looked it up on Wikipedia. f*ck you.
But I will give the game another shot. To me it seemed like...the same thing that's wrong with Somic Adventure 2. Too much distraction and not enough forward movement. Maybe the first game like this. I didn't play it until maybe 10 years ago since I was not on the NES in 1991. I never really was but my then neither were my friends so it was Genesis mostly.
Yeah, there is definitely a pirate and I remember how awesome it was the first time I used him. That bastard can almost climb walls, but he slips around.
The game holds up really well and I will have to give it another play after all this talk.
Maybe NES Mini 2 will have a new set of games and be designed like a top loader? That's something I would be okay with.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: poponon on July 15, 2016, 02:00:17 AM
this would be so much cooler if they were attempting to recreate the original hardware. 70$ for an emulator and some roms ... no thanks
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: geise on July 15, 2016, 02:36:52 AM
Is this actually nintendo manufactured or are they contracting out to another company to make this? Since SuperDeadite said there's nothing about a fami mini then I think someone else is making this, just it's licensed by nintendo of america.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: poponon on July 15, 2016, 03:12:50 AM
Is this actually nintendo manufactured or are they contracting out to another company to make this? Since SuperDeadite said there's nothing about a fami mini then I think someone else is making this, just it's licensed by nintendo of america.
damn, that would be even worse. i think it's pretty clear we are not the target market for this thing
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: bob on July 15, 2016, 03:14:46 AM
Is this actually nintendo manufactured or are they contracting out to another company to make this? Since SuperDeadite said there's nothing about a fami mini then I think someone else is making this, just it's licensed by nintendo of america.
Reggie himself did a press release on it. So I am hoping they are behind it more than just farming it out.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 15, 2016, 04:29:18 AM
So far I see no evidence that it's farmed out. Everyone is assuming that...not sure why. This is Nintendo. They made the thing that is being emulated. It's worth it for Nintendo to do it right here as nolstalgia pays the bills that Pokemon won't.
A few years ago Nintendo went to amazing lengths to remanufacture Game in Watch Ball with the end result being more or less perfect. While Ball is not a technically amazing thing on its own, it's worth pointing out that electronics like that aren't being made anymore and creating the remake required some interesting ways of doing things. There is an article about how they made it floating around somewhere. Anyway, that was for a Club Nintendo freebie, not anywhere near as important as this.
Like I said, all the cool companies are turning shitty and dying so maybe now it's Nintendo's turn but I don't see any reason to assume this. They've been aware of Famiclones since the 90s. Now it's their turn and I think they're going to do a good job.
As for why there hasn't been an anouncement of a Famicom Mini, I don't know. The NES/FC GBAs were not anounced at the same time either so maybe it' just hasn't been revealed yet. Also, Japan...just isn't as important as it used to be, frankly. The days of everything debuting in Japan, selling millions of units there and then going worldwide are over. Also, this would certainly not be the first US-only Nintendo product.
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Post by: Gredler on July 15, 2016, 04:47:01 AM
I agree with the idea that this will be their typical Nintendo quality hardware. When was the last time you saw a farmed out Nintendo hardware of shitty quality? What indication have they given other than not announcing a Japan version and release?
I have been wondering, are retro games in a boom in Japan like they obviously are here and in the EU? Maybe Nintendo is recognizing a untapped market here and is putting out their feeeeelers with this thing like the miitomo app did for mobile games.
I'm surprised no on has mentioned this, but I imagine this will sell more than the wii u, and I wonder what implications all of this has on the NX... maybe this IS the NX?! Gasp.
Also, imagine if Nintendo bought the Hudson and konami up rights then made a turbo version of this with the entire library on it. Wet dream material there lol
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gentlegamer on July 15, 2016, 05:04:02 AM
At least I'll have a compatible NES controller to play Shovel Knight on Wii U.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: BigusSchmuck on July 15, 2016, 05:17:02 AM
My thoughts... If it is indeed emulation, I would think it would be cheaper just to get a Raspberry PI, load a bunch of roms on a sd card and be done with it. It's cool that Nintendo is releasing the mini themselves, however if it turns out garbage like those Sega all in ones ugh...
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esadajr on July 15, 2016, 06:06:58 AM
My thoughts... If it is indeed emulation, I would think it would be cheaper just to get a Raspberry PI, load a bunch of roms on a sd card and be done with it. It's cool that Nintendo is releasing the mini themselves, however if it turns out garbage like those Sega all in ones ugh...
Well, you would have to get the Pi, the (nice) case for it and the controller and set the thing from scratch. The so called $35 computer always costs more than $35.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 15, 2016, 07:16:09 AM
My thoughts... If it is indeed emulation, I would think it would be cheaper just to get a Raspberry PI, load a bunch of roms on a sd card and be done with it. It's cool that Nintendo is releasing the mini themselves, however if it turns out garbage like those Sega all in ones ugh...
Why does everything have to be about cost? Maybe some people don't want to f*ck with all that shit. Maybe they want quality and a warentee and a nice frontend. A NES pad without having to solder anything. Maybe they want a case.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on July 15, 2016, 07:16:50 AM
My thoughts... If it is indeed emulation, I would think it would be cheaper just to get a Raspberry PI, load a bunch of roms on a sd card and be done with it. It's cool that Nintendo is releasing the mini themselves, however if it turns out garbage like those Sega all in ones ugh...
Well, you would have to get the Pi, the (nice) case for it and the controller and set the thing from scratch. The so called $35 computer always costs more than $35.
I bought a bundle that came with the pi, a.c. adapter, WiFi dongle, HDMI cable, case, and sd card for $70 I think. Plus I bought a snes usb controller, and a handheld wireles qwerty keyboard.
To get the whole pi setup will be as much, possibly more than this nes box, but at least it emulates everything up to n64. And it's extremely portable.
And the setup isn't that bad either. 45mins top.The RetroPi UI is pretty nice too.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 15, 2016, 07:19:16 AM
If this thing is indeed Wii-based then it too runs everything up to N64. It's expandability, legit or by hackery, could be huge.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 15, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
My thoughts... If it is indeed emulation, I would think it would be cheaper just to get a Raspberry PI, load a bunch of roms on a sd card and be done with it. It's cool that Nintendo is releasing the mini themselves, however if it turns out garbage like those Sega all in ones ugh...
Well, you would have to get the Pi, the (nice) case for it and the controller and set the thing from scratch. The so called $35 computer always costs more than $35.
I bought a bundle that came with the pi, a.c. adapter, WiFi dongle, HDMI cable, case, and sd card for $70 I think. Plus I bought a snes usb controller, and a handheld wireles qwerty keyboard.
To get the whole pi setup will be as much, possibly more than this nes box, but at least it emulates everything up to n64. And it's extremely portable.
And the setup isn't that bad either. 45mins top.The RetroPi UI is pretty nice too.
Danm I really need to build one of those and put it on my hdtv :/
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: sirhcman on July 15, 2016, 07:53:36 AM
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 15, 2016, 08:58:05 AM
Kotaku has apparently talked to Nintendo and confirmed that there is no expansion planned or even possible. We'll see about the last part but it looks like this game list is meant to last you, which it probably will. That explains why all Marios and Zeldas are on it.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on July 15, 2016, 10:13:03 AM
What's missing and included makes it look like they plan to re-release it each year with a different set of 3rd party games mixed in.
I'm puzzled by that as well no contra but super c instead,why not both !? Then again contra never came to the virtual console either.I wonder what konami problem is for licensing that game out.
I am ignorant about this but I assume they had a budget and had to secure licenses, and for some reason I think the cost of super C vs "contra" lol.
f*cking konami, that's who I blame.
It's probably is the cost and konami wants more money so nintendo ops for super c instead.So yeah f#ck konami ! It doesn't matter to me much since i have contra for the famicom all ready.Still not good,any one that's wants to play contra a legit way i know the nes version has become pricey.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Punch on July 15, 2016, 04:42:15 PM
Kotaku has apparently talked to Nintendo and confirmed that there is no expansion planned or even possible. We'll see about the last part but it looks like this game list is meant to last you, which it probably will. That explains why all Marios and Zeldas are on it.
Ben Heck is cracking his knuckles right now.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 21, 2016, 09:42:56 AM
Seeing those pictures the only nitpic I am thinking of (apart from not accepting physical media like a DS sized cart) is the controllers.
The cored length and light weight of the system seems like wireless controllers would have been best.
Or maybe I just wish new NES wireless controllers existed first party that I could in turn use with the NES USB wireless reciver
Speak for yourself. Cordless means waiting for batteries to charge. It means pairing. Being wired means they just work, and if I want to use them on another system I just plug it in. Also, Wii compatibility is...quite possibly worth more than anything else in this set.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 21, 2016, 12:57:12 PM
Seeing those pictures the only nitpic I am thinking of (apart from not accepting physical media like a DS sized cart) is the controllers.
The cored length and light weight of the system seems like wireless controllers would have been best.
Or maybe I just wish new NES wireless controllers existed first party that I could in turn use with the NES USB wireless reciver
Speak for yourself. Cordless means waiting for batteries to charge. It means pairing. Being wired means they just work, and if I want to use them on another system I just plug it in. Also, Wii compatibility is...quite possibly worth more than anything else in this set.
I actually brought that up (using the controllor for the Wii and WiiU one page one. But I agree with that versatility. So for you. It's at most a $10 pitches for the stand alone controllor provided you do not have a need or desire to buy the system itself.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Digi.k on July 21, 2016, 01:13:14 PM
folks are complaining about the length of the controller cable but I think it is alright.
1+ meters ?? (http://i.imgur.com/qGrHQ0X.gif)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 21, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
I once thought "hand me the remote" was the laziest sentence possible but "the cord on my video game controller is too short" is...maybe not lazier, but it is more pathetic. Sit on the floor like when you were a kid. Not only is it a more authentic experience but you could probably use the stretch. I mean...look at you. You're only afraid of sitting down there because you're not excited about how hard it would be to stand up again and flop your fat ass onto the couch. That reluctance is proof that this is the very sort of exercise you need.
I guess mainstream gamers have probably been wireless so long that this is going to be a huge thing to complain about. They've probably designed their TV space in such a way that using short controller cords is as "impossible" as finding room for a CRT. (Finding room for a 8 foot HDTV however is seldom a problem.) Since I still play old games all the time I don't even notice.
Come to think of it, some of you dicks are RetroGaming on screens so bright and so huge that it's probably super uncomfortable if not medically unadvisable to sit less than 10 feet away. Luckily options for extending HDMI and USB power are inumerable so really this is only a problem for the really helpless.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Digi.k on July 21, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
I once thought "hand me the remote" was the laziest sentence possible but "the cord on my video game controller is too short" is...maybe not lazier, but it is more pathetic. Sit on the floor like when you were a kid.
However, considering the NES controllor I have currently has CRAZY length between my temporary set up and the spare couch up stairs I think I am good.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 21, 2016, 02:38:32 PM
My only issue with cords on my controllers is my dogs. they have no idea what they're doing, and often will cross the cord path and all hell breaks loose.
And about sitting on the floor, f*ck that. I am playing games to relax, not to pretend I'm limber and in shape anymore, I'm getting to old for that shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 21, 2016, 02:52:24 PM
If you genuinly are too out of shape to sit on a floor then maybe you should take my joke advice for real. Sitting on the floor is not supposed to be a test of strength but...maybe it should be?
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: crazydean on July 21, 2016, 02:56:40 PM
I once thought "hand me the remote" was the laziest sentence possible but "the cord on my video game controller is too short" is...maybe not lazier, but it is more pathetic. Sit on the floor like when you were a kid. Not only is it a more authentic experience but you could probably use the stretch. I mean...look at you. You're only afraid of sitting down there because you're not excited about how hard it would be to stand up again and flop your fat ass onto the couch. That reluctance is proof that this is the very sort of exercise you need.
I guess mainstream gamers have probably been wireless so long that this is going to be a huge thing to complain about. They've probably designed their TV space in such a way that using short controller cords is as "impossible" as finding room for a CRT. (Finding room for a 8 foot HDTV however is seldom a problem.) Since I still play old games all the time I don't even notice.
Come to think of it, some of you dicks are RetroGaming on screens so bright and so huge that it's probably super uncomfortable if not medically unadvisable to sit less than 10 feet away. Luckily options for extending HDMI and USB power are inumerable so really this is only a problem for the really helpless.
f*ck you, guy. Things have changed. The people buying this likely have 46" TV's or larger. Sure, back in the day when NES was new, most TV's were under 30", but now, it's a whole new ballgame. Many families buying this, plan on hooking it up to a screen larger than 50". This means that said family will be sitting more than 2 meters from the tele. Get over yourself, modern families aren't the same as 1990's Japan.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TR0N on July 21, 2016, 03:01:16 PM
Nintendo just released a promo for it. Long as it doesn't end up like the neo-geo x or the firecore genesis i'm sold.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on July 21, 2016, 03:19:35 PM
I once thought "hand me the remote" was the laziest sentence possible but "the cord on my video game controller is too short" is...maybe not lazier, but it is more pathetic. Sit on the floor like when you were a kid. Not only is it a more authentic experience but you could probably use the stretch. I mean...look at you. You're only afraid of sitting down there because you're not excited about how hard it would be to stand up again and flop your fat ass onto the couch. That reluctance is proof that this is the very sort of exercise you need.
I guess mainstream gamers have probably been wireless so long that this is going to be a huge thing to complain about. They've probably designed their TV space in such a way that using short controller cords is as "impossible" as finding room for a CRT. (Finding room for a 8 foot HDTV however is seldom a problem.) Since I still play old games all the time I don't even notice.
Come to think of it, some of you dicks are RetroGaming on screens so bright and so huge that it's probably super uncomfortable if not medically unadvisable to sit less than 10 feet away. Luckily options for extending HDMI and USB power are inumerable so really this is only a problem for the really helpless.
f*ck you, guy. Things have changed. The people buying this likely have 46" TV's or larger. Sure, back in the day when NES was new, most TV's were under 30", but now, it's a whole new ballgame. Many families buying this, plan on hooking it up to a screen larger than 50". This means that said family will be sitting more than 2 meters from the tele. Get over yourself, modern families aren't the same as 1990's Japan.
I say—and I mean this on the truest sense of humanitarianism—f*ck the families of today.
They can plug the miniNES into the television in the kitchen pantry (or even the television in their sneaker closet, if they are really desperate).
They will survive, trust me.
:)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 21, 2016, 03:25:08 PM
If you genuinly are too out of shape to sit on a floor then maybe you should take my joke advice for real. Sitting on the floor is not supposed to be a test of strength but...maybe it should be?
Hahah thanks for your advice wise one :P
My issue with sitting on the floor is a matter of comfort, not ability, as my knees/ankles and most other joints are pretty much gone/shredded to bits. I am not obese or incredibly fit, but I am not going to sit on the ground to relax and play videogames, esp not for a lengthy session of any sort, and not in my game playing area that has a concrete floor.
Good on you for wanting to be miserable all the time, that's very admirable I guess, I'll stick to my recliner or couch when I am enjoying a relaxing session of game playing :)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 21, 2016, 03:39:13 PM
I once thought "hand me the remote" was the laziest sentence possible but "the cord on my video game controller is too short" is...maybe not lazier, but it is more pathetic. Sit on the floor like when you were a kid. Not only is it a more authentic experience but you could probably use the stretch. I mean...look at you. You're only afraid of sitting down there because you're not excited about how hard it would be to stand up again and flop your fat ass onto the couch. That reluctance is proof that this is the very sort of exercise you need.
I guess mainstream gamers have probably been wireless so long that this is going to be a huge thing to complain about. They've probably designed their TV space in such a way that using short controller cords is as "impossible" as finding room for a CRT. (Finding room for a 8 foot HDTV however is seldom a problem.) Since I still play old games all the time I don't even notice.
Come to think of it, some of you dicks are RetroGaming on screens so bright and so huge that it's probably super uncomfortable if not medically unadvisable to sit less than 10 feet away. Luckily options for extending HDMI and USB power are inumerable so really this is only a problem for the really helpless.
f*ck you, guy. Things have changed. The people buying this likely have 46" TV's or larger. Sure, back in the day when NES was new, most TV's were under 30", but now, it's a whole new ballgame. Many families buying this, plan on hooking it up to a screen larger than 50". This means that said family will be sitting more than 2 meters from the tele. Get over yourself, modern families aren't the same as 1990's Japan.
THEN WHAT THE f*ck ARE THEY PLAYING NES FOR?
God, what a bunch of *pussies* the word has become. Sitting on the floor is "miserable".
Since people only like to respond to the parts where I...apparently...totally expose their most embarrassing issues by accident, let me state again that a USB power supply and a long-ass HDMI cable are not hard to find. If you're on deaths f*cking door and you can't get up you can just bring the system closer to you. I just hope your decrepit ass isn't operating a motor vehicle or any power tools.
The dog thing might be insurmountable though. Dogs didn't exist in the 80s so there is no accommodation for them in the new NES thing either. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution.
In no way am I defending the decision to use a PS1 length controller cable l, it was dumb, obviously, but the criticism is just depressing. Have some sense of perspective for f*cks sake. The reason I can't adjust to the needs of whining pussies is because as soon as you placate them they just become even more weak and needy to the point where now pulling cartridges in and out of your machine is too much work so you have to get flash cards. Even the 7 year old version of yourself would rag on you for that.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 21, 2016, 03:41:18 PM
If you genuinly are too out of shape to sit on a floor then maybe you should take my joke advice for real. Sitting on the floor is not supposed to be a test of strength but...maybe it should be?
Hahah thanks for your advice wise one :P
My issue with sitting on the floor is a matter of comfort, not ability, as my knees/ankles and most other joints are pretty much gone/shredded to bits. I am not obese or incredibly fit, but I am not going to sit on the ground to relax and play videogames, esp not for a lengthy session of any sort, and not in my game playing area that has a concrete floor.
Good on you for wanting to be miserable all the time, that's very admirable I guess, I'll stick to my recliner or couch when I am enjoying a relaxing session of game playing :)
This is a similar boat I find myself in as well.
Can I sit on the floor? Sure. To a degree.
Do I need proper lumbar support?
More then I need to sit on the floor.
Why? Having sever lumbar issues as a result my work in my twenties and early thirties has turned my back, hips, and knees into basicly mush. Maybe Zeta doesn't have a spine that has curved due to intense physical abuse and can sit on the floor on his head. However, for me I need lumbar support and choose to use the furniture and available tools to make gaming more comfortable.
This means I would most likely utilize a cable extension is some sort of I were to utilize the mini NES at some point. Provided my initial concerns and controllor cable length are correct I. That they would not reach from my tv to the couch.
Could I put the system in the floor and have cables and what not lengthened to accommodate? Sure. If I didn't have a 1 1/2 year old who enjoys grabbing anythjng with in reach that is t bolted to the ground or outside his reach and walk through out the house with it in hand. Granted I greatly enjoy just chasing him around the house as he giggles smiling all the time trying to run and hide from me with what ever controllor, game, book etc he managed to grab and hold to.
Ok off topic.
Zeta just calm down with the gross generalizations all the time. You have such a pessimistic view of things all the time. It's great to have an opinion, however, must you always go and use such tackless ways of articulating your views.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Gredler on July 21, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
danm zeta all this health advice, I hope you're taking your blood pressure medicine.
80% of the systems I play have corded controllers, I was just stating that the only issue I have with the cord is when the dogs get rowdy - and yes I've been dealing with that issue since I was a wee lad playing NES sitting on the ground, the dogs still manage to f*ck shit up every once in a while.
No need to bust a artery because I simply say f*ck sitting on the ground, do you honestly play sitting on the ground? Your suggestion of bringing the system closer is what I typically do, maybe try that out it works good. Sitting on the ground is for chumps and children, and furnitureless hobos.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: bob on July 22, 2016, 02:02:18 AM
However, considering the NES controllor I have currently has CRAZY length between my temporary set up and the spare couch up stairs I think I am good.
AAHHHHH f*ck YOU!! I have wanted to find that damn Joycard Sansui at a reasonable price for years now. Had one as a kid and it's the absolute BEST NES controller ever made. Hands down.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Necromancer on July 22, 2016, 02:43:39 AM
What kind of whining pussy complains about wireless controller pairing as if it's some arduous task or about it always being discharged? If you're too lazy or too stupid to plug it in, I hope you're not operating a motor vehicle or any power tools.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Black Tiger on July 22, 2016, 04:45:21 AM
I understand not wanting to deal with a cord that is too short, but that's what extensions are for. Short corded controllers are perfect for every situation and don't stick you with 12' of superfluous cable when you don't need it. I used wireless pads a lot in the late 90's for RPGs, but I always prefer a hardwired controller, just as I'd rather have my internet devices hardwired when possible.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 22, 2016, 04:59:42 AM
However, considering the NES controllor I have currently has CRAZY length between my temporary set up and the spare couch up stairs I think I am good.
AAHHHHH f*ck YOU!! I have wanted to find that damn Joycard Sansui at a reasonable price for years now. Had one as a kid and it's the absolute BEST NES controller ever made. Hands down.
Got it for the turbo function head phone jack and that its larger with rounded corners for my man hands.
I swear the pointy smaller first party NES controllers hurt my hands these days. I actually have. Second one. However, it's used for other adults due to above reasons.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: bob on July 22, 2016, 05:21:52 AM
the turbo functions are faster than the NES Max too. world records for days in Track n Field with the joycard
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on July 22, 2016, 05:35:11 AM
However, considering the NES controllor I have currently has CRAZY length between my temporary set up and the spare couch up stairs I think I am good.
AAHHHHH f*ck YOU!! I have wanted to find that damn Joycard Sansui at a reasonable price for years now. Had one as a kid and it's the absolute BEST NES controller ever made. Hands down.
Got it for the turbo function head phone jack and that its larger with rounded corners for my man hands.
I swear the pointy smaller first party NES controllers hurt my hands these days. I actually have. Second one. However, it's used for other adults due to above reasons.
You got Palmolive hands or something? Lol
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on July 22, 2016, 05:42:14 AM
However, considering the NES controllor I have currently has CRAZY length between my temporary set up and the spare couch up stairs I think I am good.
AAHHHHH f*ck YOU!! I have wanted to find that damn Joycard Sansui at a reasonable price for years now. Had one as a kid and it's the absolute BEST NES controller ever made. Hands down.
Got it for the turbo function head phone jack and that its larger with rounded corners for my man hands.
I swear the pointy smaller first party NES controllers hurt my hands these days. I actually have. Second one. However, it's used for other adults due to above reasons.
You got Palmolive hands or something? Lol
If say more neandothal
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on July 22, 2016, 06:26:00 AM
Only a Neanderthal would spell it "Cro-Magnon"...
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Otaking on August 03, 2016, 04:32:28 PM
This is better than the official one
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Zero_Gamer on August 03, 2016, 04:53:42 PM
“What is interesting is that we can play through HDMI, but there will be different modes of how we will see the screen – a mode simulating the retro aspect of our old CRT screens, there will be a mode which can be at the resolution of the modern screens in 4:3 format, and a pixel perfect mode which will display each pixel as a square, so people can have fun with this too.”
“Yes, there will be permanent save points and instant temporary saves to be able to resume and that’s for every single of the 30 games, so we don’t have to worry if we don’t have a password, or restart right at the beginning…”
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 07, 2016, 05:05:22 PM
Maybe they'll have Super Gameboy style borders.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on August 07, 2016, 05:18:06 PM
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on August 07, 2016, 06:12:24 PM
I am excited to see the pixel perfect mode, I wonder if they are going to really recreate the CRT feel or if it is bullshit. I imagine 99% of the people playing won't care, so the cost benefit analysis of doing this well doesn't work in my favor.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on August 08, 2016, 12:57:04 AM
I am excited to see the pixel perfect mode, I wonder if they are going to really recreate the CRT feel or if it is bullshit. I imagine 99% of the people playing won't care, so the cost benefit analysis of doing this well doesn't work in my favor.
Well, however flawed it may be, it will be better than no 4:3 option... :)
Don't you think it will simply be a "scan line" effect superimposed over a 4:3 mode (you might have options to choose thinner/thicker, sharper/blurrier, etc. and adjust transparency of effects)....
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: sirhcman on August 08, 2016, 01:45:20 AM
Quote
“Yes, there will be permanent save points and instant temporary saves to be able to resume and that’s for every single of the 30 games, so we don’t have to worry if we don’t have a password, or restart right at the beginning…”
Save states? I guess the young whippersnappers won't be able to play the games without whining otherwise?! ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on August 08, 2016, 02:57:37 AM
I am excited to see the pixel perfect mode, I wonder if they are going to really recreate the CRT feel or if it is bullshit. I imagine 99% of the people playing won't care, so the cost benefit analysis of doing this well doesn't work in my favor.
Well, however flawed it may be, it will be better than no 4:3 option... :)
Don't you think it will simply be a "scan line" effect superimposed over a 4:3 mode (you might have options to choose thinner/thicker, sharper/blurrier, etc. and adjust transparency of effects)....
I think it is more than scan lines, as it appears they are redrawing the game to provide pixel fakery as well. It seems they are doing quite a bit of work on these games, compared to something like the Genesis plug and play that was released a few years ago. Other than the cartridge slot and authentic controller ports, this appears to be a higher quality build hands down.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: xelement5x on August 08, 2016, 04:50:59 AM
I am excited to see the pixel perfect mode, I wonder if they are going to really recreate the CRT feel or if it is bullshit. I imagine 99% of the people playing won't care, so the cost benefit analysis of doing this well doesn't work in my favor.
Well, however flawed it may be, it will be better than no 4:3 option... :)
Don't you think it will simply be a "scan line" effect superimposed over a 4:3 mode (you might have options to choose thinner/thicker, sharper/blurrier, etc. and adjust transparency of effects)....
I think it is more than scan lines, as it appears they are redrawing the game to provide pixel fakery as well. It seems they are doing quite a bit of work on these games, compared to something like the Genesis plug and play that was released a few years ago. Other than the cartridge slot and authentic controller ports, this appears to be a higher quality build hands down.
Yeah, modern Genesis clones are pretty much garbage at this point unfortunately. There was some cool movement towards GOACs for awhile, but the future seems like HDMI which means custom display modes and near perfect hardware emulation.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: ClodBuster on August 08, 2016, 10:41:15 PM
If the savestates will be handled just like on the Wii Virtual Console, then there'll be one savestate for each game for the sake of conveniently powering off the console and continue playing a different day. When continuing, the savestate erases itself instantly, so you still need skills to progress further in the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Ratix on August 14, 2016, 03:48:29 AM
This 100% the pi3 is the best for practically everything else as well. Hands down the best investment overall I ever made. Raspberry pi is the way to go. Emulates just about everything very nicely.
Yup I'm still reading the thread too. I agree with a lot of stuff being said. We share the same opinion.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 14, 2016, 04:44:22 AM
Ed Mandy is working on a Pi that goes in a GBA case. This works perfectly, IMO, since OG GBAs are pretty much worthless due to the shitty screen.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: wildfruit on August 14, 2016, 05:44:40 AM
I prefer sitting on the floor. I hardly ever sit on the sofas in the living room. I sit or lay on a nice rug. In the bedroom floor space is limited so I lay on my bed to game / watch DVDs.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Digi.k on September 29, 2016, 11:50:58 PM
Japanese version just announced. I've cancelled my pre order due to getting a pi3 but the jpn one is making me want..
Japan gets a different line up of games and the controllers are really small! (https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/export/sites/nintendo_topics/images/thumbnail/extra_large/00000418_820_461.png)
For those wondering which exclusives each region gets
NES Classic exclusive: Bubble Bobble, Castlevania 2, Donkey Kong Jr, Final Fantasy, Kid Icarus, Punch Out, Startropics, Tecmo Bowl
Famicom exclusive: Yie Ar Kung-Fu, Atlantis no Nazo, Solomon's Key, Tsuppari Sumo, River City Ransom, Final Fantasy 3, Mario Club Golf, Downtown Street Challenge
Japanese official website https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/c/article/d2923b54-8552-11e6-9b38-063b7ac45a6d.html
user interface (https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/export/sites/nintendo_topics/images/article_img/00000418_33.jpg)
4:3 and CRT/analogue modes (https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/export/sites/nintendo_topics/images/article_img/00000418_32.png)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on September 30, 2016, 12:26:32 AM
I think North America is getting a better lineup of games...
BUT I AM A FOOL and I want both minis simply because of (1) novelty factor and (2) I am so curious about whether or not this will actually be a "quality" product. Yes, I've read the arguments...I know Nintendo has a solid track record when it comes to products (it's why I trust them). But still....this is new territory.
Anyway, the reality is that I won't get either one until (hopefully) they are deeply discounted at some future point in time :)
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Medic_wheat on September 30, 2016, 02:29:02 AM
I think North America is getting a better lineup of games...
BUT I AM A FOOL and I want both minis simply because of (1) novelty factor and (2) I am so curious about whether or not this will actually be a "quality" product. Yes, I've read the arguments...I know Nintendo has a solid track record when it comes to products (it's why I trust them). But still....this is new territory.
Anyway, the reality is that I won't get either one until (hopefully) they are deeply discounted at some future point in time :)
Deeply discounted meaning what? $20?
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 30, 2016, 06:07:07 AM
Two exclusive Technos games means a lot, but the US version is at least as good. Pre-wired pads compared to Wii compatible ones is not an upgrade.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: csgx1 on September 30, 2016, 06:41:12 AM
The little Famicom controllers are cute and match the system, but probably not very comfortable for longer gaming sessions. The 2 Kunio games makes me want the Famicom version as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on September 30, 2016, 07:43:28 AM
I will definitely need to get both, f*cking Nintendo and their nostalgic grip on me.
Does the Australian system have the same games as the U.S.? Seems like they wouldn't care about Tecmo Bowl.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 30, 2016, 08:13:01 AM
I didn't mean non-functional. I mean so uncomfortable to hold that they're useless for anything other than looking awesome.
Ah gotcha.
Have you guys seen this yet? Blew my mind. It's backwards of what one would normally assume.
*Classic Mini vs. Wii U VC* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocGdWRF84Q0
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: crazydean on September 30, 2016, 11:57:50 AM
It's not that surprising. The virtual console is know to be pretty terrible. The surprise is that the classic actually looks good.
I don't agree with the sound being better. The virtual console sound is they way I remember it.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 30, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Wii VC is extremely good. Wii U VC is, apparently, another story. I only have two games for Wii U VC but I've spent much more time with Wii VC. My opinion is that the Wii is probably the best box for outputting old school video that you could imagine. Quality is ROCK SOLID when using component video and an SD set. If the NES Mini does exactly what the Wii VC did but over HDMI then it's absolutely worth the asking price.
Regardless, NES/FC Mini and the Wii and even the Wii U crush any NES experience we had in the 80s and it does it for about the cost one NES cart. This is a pretty easy thing to buy with confidence.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Mathius on September 30, 2016, 01:16:18 PM
I agree that the Wii VC is outstanding. Super Mario 3 looks spectacular on my CRT w/ component cables with its impressive scanlines. Wii U on the other hand looks dark. I was thinking my one Wii U VC title, Earthbound Beginnings, was a fluke when I saw how dark the picture was.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Groover on September 30, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
I already wanted the Mini- NES and now I want the Mini-Famicom. I think they are a fun novelty. Nether are going to replace my AV Famicom with the NESRGB mod but this would be fun to bring over to a friends house.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: MrBroadway on September 30, 2016, 06:27:27 PM
I already wanted the Mini- NES and now I want the Mini-Famicom. I think they are a fun novelty. Nether are going to replace my AV Famicom with the NESRGB mod but this would be fun to bring over to a friends house.
Wouldn't it be better to bring over a flash cart instead?
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: TheClash603 on September 30, 2016, 06:53:09 PM
I already wanted the Mini- NES and now I want the Mini-Famicom. I think they are a fun novelty. Nether are going to replace my AV Famicom with the NESRGB mod but this would be fun to bring over to a friends house.
Wouldn't it be better to bring over a flash cart instead?
My friends suck and don't have SDTV or old consoles, so I see why this is a problem.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: technozombie on September 30, 2016, 07:59:38 PM
I love the novelty of this, but I know I would literally never play it. Maybe someone will buy it for me for Christmas or something.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esteban on September 30, 2016, 10:29:21 PM
Preordered it from Amazon UK. Hopefully it'll be in my filthy hands before christmas.
M$ should have allowed that NES emulator on their X1 app store.
Even if Microsoft would have allowed it I am sure the Big N would have it forcibly removed
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Necromancer on October 04, 2016, 08:02:27 AM
They could try, but there's nothing illegal about an emulator.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: esadajr on October 13, 2016, 05:07:01 AM
Exactly, an emulator by itself is not illegal. Don't advertise it, just let it be in the sea of apps. The Google play store for example has commercial NES emulators and the big N hasn't said anything.
Title: Re: Nintendo NES mini coming!
Post by: Johnpv on October 14, 2016, 12:31:13 AM
I think it wasn't just Nintendo that MS didn't allow it. They have plenty of partners that are trying to sell collections, or digital versions of their old 8 bit and 16 bit titles. It probably wouldn't make them happy either.