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Title: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on July 19, 2016, 07:35:06 AM
I couldn't find such a list, so I'd like to start a thread (if there is a list, please direct me to it!).
Specifically, I'm interested in SCD/ACD games that give you something other than an error message when you insert the disc. Now that I've gone through my 134 SCD/ACD games to test them out, I wish I'd logged what *all* of them do, not just the unusual ones, but superpcenginegrafx has a partial list (http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/system_card_warning_warehouse.html) for a few of them.
So, here's what I found, please feel free to add.
Minigames: Dracula X - cute/weird action minigame
Dragon Slayer (PCE) - music player and monster compendium
Exile II (PCE) - if you press the I button, Rumi's "ne <3" speech bubble blinks (hey, it's interaction)
Solid Force – characters are looking at the screen of an RPG - you get the option to “quit” or “continue” - if you choose continue, a giant foot in high heels and stockings kicks you.
Seisenshi Denshou: Jantaku no Kishi - has a full majhong match to play.
*UNTESTED* Tenshi no Uta II: Datenshi no Uta - appears to have a one-off battle? Could just be a static screen. Can someone confirm?
Ryuuko no Ken (art of fighting) - casino/slot match where you're trying to slice daikon.
and then there's *basically every backup warning message* which has interaction as well.
No error message: Alnam no kiba - just hangs on "just a moment" forever
Baby Jo - black screen, then resets to "push run button"
Psychic Visual Detective Series 3 Aya - shows the DataWest logo, then tries to run the game - total mess of visual artifacts, but music plays fine, still accepts inputs. Super weird!
Psychic Visual Detective Series 1 Orgel – about the same as above, except doesn't play music, no color in artifacts.
Blackhole Assault - intro works great, but once you get into the game, it's pixel salad. accepts all inputs and seems to run the actual game, though I have trouble getting past the menus!
God Panic - black screen for a while, then visual error plus clicking.
Magicoal – shows the NEC logo, then black screen
Rayxanber III – you can totally play the whole dang game, it's just extremely visually corrupted.
Slime World – sometimes visual errors, sometimes nothing.
Travel Able – Riot logo screen then reset. Very odd to not have a screen in such a late game!
Yuyu Hakusho – just resets to the title screen
And here are some games that aren't SCDs at all, or are "secretly" dual-compatible, and work just fine on system 1.0 Builderland Record of Lodoss War (SCD version) Macross 2036 (this one really surprised me!!) Ranma 1/2 DATŌ, GANSO MUSABETSU KAKUTŌ-RYŪ! Yawara!
Some games I didn't try, usually because I don't own them: Jim Power (mine is sealed and suddenly that game has gone up in price so I felt weird opening it!), but I reckon that one has nothing just like the other Micro World stuff. Nexzr (non-caravan) Sylphia Anearth Fantasy Stories Taikenban Fire Pro Female Wrestling Far East of Eden: Kabuki Itouryodan (I own this, where did it go ;_;) Madou Monogatari Linda3
I'd also like to note that moonlight lady has a really cute long animated sequence for their error message! also that disc 2 of galaxy fraulein yuna has the same error message as yuna 2.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Necromancer on July 19, 2016, 08:04:34 AM
Neat thread. Are you trying 'em with a 2.x card as well to see if there's any difference?
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Black Tiger on July 19, 2016, 08:08:02 AM
But I like salt and vinegar potato chips, so go figure.
I love salt-n-vinegar chips, even the reduced fat ones!
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on July 19, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
I've just been trying with system 1.0, because I don't have a 2.0! I should get one. But I have tested things like - do ACD games that show a 1.0/2.0 card in their error screen show a different error or card if you've got 3.0 in there? and the answer to that question is no. So this is total non-science here, but my assumption is it simply checks for "correct card" vs "incorrect card" and goes from there.
But since there are a lot of unusual behaviors, who knows! I'd love to see if the games that don't have error messages react differently to the 2.0.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: TheClash603 on July 20, 2016, 01:31:53 AM
Any screen shots or videos you can link to the Dracula X mini game? I never knew of this.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: bob on July 20, 2016, 02:30:40 AM
EDIT: Removed. Just looked at other site and it's already there.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Necromancer on July 20, 2016, 03:01:39 AM
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Black Tiger on July 20, 2016, 04:37:22 AM
I've just been trying with system 1.0, because I don't have a 2.0! I should get one. But I have tested things like - do ACD games that show a 1.0/2.0 card in their error screen show a different error or card if you've got 3.0 in there? and the answer to that question is no. So this is total non-science here, but my assumption is it simply checks for "correct card" vs "incorrect card" and goes from there.
But since there are a lot of unusual behaviors, who knows! I'd love to see if the games that don't have error messages react differently to the 2.0.
The 1.0-only games show how some of the revisions (2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc) might cause unique issues with various games.
If you have a Turbo Everdrive, then you have all of the <3.0 cards.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 20, 2016, 05:56:26 AM
Vasteel 2's intro looks for everything that could possibly be plugged into your machine and lists it. Memory Base 128, multi-tap, etc.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Black Tiger on July 20, 2016, 06:36:00 AM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhjw_MYYrJ4#)
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Most old timers know it too well and I think it was used.
yeah, i never paid much attention to the thread. so i guess the 5 old timers left would get it pretty quickly. lol personally, i never knew about this since i dont own any of the system cards prior to 3.0
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Bonknuts on July 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM
There are a handful of bi-compatible CD games, IIRC. Terraforming is another one.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: SignOfZeta on July 20, 2016, 04:16:51 PM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhjw_MYYrJ4#)
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Most old timers know it too well and I think it was used.
yeah, i never paid much attention to the thread. so i guess the 5 old timers left would get it pretty quickly. lol personally, i never knew about this since i dont own any of the system cards prior to 3.0
You don't really have to be much of an old timer. That's a really popular thread that's been going for years. A lot of people have seen it.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on October 23, 2016, 08:23:07 AM
updated to reflect some stuff learned from this list http://www.vgmuseum.com/features/warn2/