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The Sega Ages series seems dedicated to resurrecting the Golden Age of gaming, and their most recent additions are no exception to the rule.
North American PS2 owners will likely have to import the titles, but these might be worth the effort. Sega is bringing back a compilation of Monster World and a revamped version of the original Virtual On for old-school gaming fans. The Monster World compilation will feature the first four games in the series, as well as recognizable classics like Monster Lair and Wonder Boy.
Awesome!
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Awesome. I hope to pick up most of the japanese PS2 Sega Ages'. I love Wonderboy, so I'll definately buy it once it's released.
Right now, the 3 PS2 games I own are Tengai Makyou III (for which I got the system + a modchip for), Ys I & II Eternal and the North American Sega Ages.
I know most people knock the Sega Ages set we got because it wasn't a bunch of cutting edge remakes, but I was very happy with it(plus it cost me $5 used).
Of course, I'd be happier with perfect arcade and console emulations.
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The Sega Ages series seems dedicated to ruining the Golden Age of gaming, and their most recent additions are no exception to the rule.
Fixed.
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The Sega Ages series seems dedicated to ruining the Golden Age of gaming, and their most recent additions are no exception to the rule.
Fixed.
I agree.
However, I'd still like to play this. I really like the Monster World games. Any release date set?
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Not all of them were bad, I picked up Golden axe and it was pretty decent, way better than the pc engine version for sure.
As far as release date, no clue yet, but Im sure it will be tracked on lik-sang or other sites.
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Not all of them were bad, I picked up Golden axe and it was pretty decent, way better than the pc engine version for sure.
Well considering my dog could make a better version than the PC Engine one, that's hardly praise.
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The Sega Ages series seems dedicated to ruining the Golden Age of gaming, and their most recent additions are no exception to the rule.
Fixed.
Have you even played any of the Sega Ages releases? Since Sega started doing some of the development themselves instead of D3, the Sega Ages series has turned out quite nicely. I've bought the Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box, the Phantasy Star 2 remake, and Panzer Dragoon, Dynamite Deka, and Dragon Force. All of these were excellent.
Anyway, if Sega gives Monster World the same treatment they gave Gunstar Heroes, I'm definitely picking it up. The GH Treasure Box was awesome.
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What I would really like to know is why have these forums turned so negative lately?
It seems like it's always the same individual, or individuals either flaming someone or just being outright a$$hole-ish..
Never offering something positive anymore...
chi-seen....
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Agreed :( .
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What I would really like to know is why have these forums turned so negative lately?
It seems like it's always the same individual, or individuals either flaming someone or just being outright a$$hole-ish..
Never offering something positive anymore...
chi-seen....
Well my post was a throw-away comment, and only meant to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Direct remakes of 2D classics have very rarely been better, or even equal, to the original games. You can't deny the spread of poor reviews that greeted the initial Sega Ages remakes such as Out Run, Golden Axe, Space Harrier etc.
For example, IGN said of the version of Golden Axe:
The most disappointing game in the pack is, by far, Golden Axe, a game that would have definitely been the shining star of the collection. Sure, the original game couldn't stand up to today's elaborate presentation, but what Sega did for its remastered mode is an absolutely terrible recreation of one of the company's more remembered classic arcade properties. What was once beautiful 2D sprite and background artwork is now sub-par 3D, with awful character renders and animation fronting a very sloppy gameplay port of the original fantasy hack-and-slash game. Anyone who's spent a single quarter on the arcade version can nitpick a laundry list of issues, problems, and bugs that pop up in the Sega Classics Collection version.
This is only an example. Every review I have read and comments from friends has been of the same low opinion.
Are you also denying that the PC Engine version of Golden Axe something other than dreadful?
If something is crap then I'm not afraid to say it.
I've not seen details of the later Sega Ages conversions, and I'm happy if they are finally living up to the promise of the originals. It's about time they treated these games with the respect they deserve rather than give them to their trainees as a project to do. Most of the time they are more interested in making a fast buck then producing something that enhances the original versions.
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I stopped believing what the EGMers and IGNers say about games. I work in the video game industry and I can say that alot of these guys no longer play the games for fun. They play them and if they arent hooked within the first few hours they will give them a bad rating. Not to mention that what one so called "reviewer" will like or dislike another will think the opposite.
I own golden axe and I love it. In contrast how many baseball players play baseball for the game, and not for the money?
See my point?
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Well it's cool that you enjoy it, but the Sega Classics collection has been universally panned by IGN, Gamespot, Eurogamer, Game Central (a reputable UK Teletext game site) and one of my friends, and I'm sure by a lot of other places. I've not seen a single good review of it. I'm not saying you're wrong to like Golden Axe, just that this is what I base the conception that Sega's retro remakes have been less than stellar.
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Honestly dude if you're not hooked in the "first few hours" then why even bother playing the game? Games aren't work, they should draw you in from the beginning or they're obviously shit. Professional reviewers generally know what they're talking about, that's why they get paid to do.
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Honestly dude if you're not hooked in the "first few hours" then why even bother playing the game? Games aren't work, they should draw you in from the beginning or they're obviously shit. Professional reviewers generally know what they're talking about, that's why they get paid to do.
Good Point, but I mean to convey that some games need to be given a chance to grow on you.
Take any young kid today who grew up on PS2 or Xbox, and give them Ys I and II. They won't like it because it doesnt have the cool graphics or for that matter a "hack n slash" ability. But try to tell anyone here that and it's plasphemy. To us Ys is Art, and a High Caliber title. At first I even thought Ys was shit. And then the game grew on me. Now I swear by it. Collecting anything and everything Ys.
Some games need to be given a chance, that's all I meant by that.
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What I would really like to know is why have these forums turned so negative lately?
It seems like it's always the same individual, or individuals either flaming someone or just being outright a$$hole-ish..
Never offering something positive anymore...
chi-seen....
I've noticed the same thing, but not necessarily exactly as you put it.
The people I've noticed(probably not the all same individuals you're thinking of) making a lot of negative comments though, don't exclusively post flaming comments(but can be relied on to hate at every opportunity).
But the forum certainly is developing an increasingly negative vibe.
And there seems to be a few regular commenters who sound like they actually dislike the Turbo/PCE and think that it sucks in various ways... -but they still hang around here to trash it and all the games on a regular basis.
I just try not to argue with people bent on picking fights.
As for the Sega Ages, I don't think that the small percentage of bad (and early)ports spells doom for anything released under the Sega Ages banner in the future.
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The latest Sega Ages releases are great. I don't remember when Sega started doing them (maybe Phantasy Star Generation 2?), but the ones I've bought have been fine. The GH Treasure Box was superb. It had the original games, not remakes, and a ton of bonus stuff. I'd love to have a Monster World collection done in the same style.
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I hope they still manage to get around to Phantasy Star IV, even if it means skipping III.
I also hope that a Monster World collection not only has 'IV, but also all the Sega Mark III titles with optional FM sound and the SG-1000 Wonderboy.
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And there seems to be a few regular commenters who sound like they actually dislike the Turbo/PCE and think that it sucks in various ways... -but they still hang around here to trash it and all the games on a regular basis.
Oh I know who this is directed at. :wink: Sorry, it's just that I'm a very negative person, and I tend to (tend to, not always) look at things objectively. I'm "hating" games like The Dynastic Hero and Ys Book 1-2, but strictly from an objective plane. I like (to play) these games, but they haven't aged well at all, and they honestly are bad games. DH suffers from some of the worst level designs in video game history, and Ys Book 1-2 (for PC Engine) is the most unbalanced game I have ever played. Just a couple of examples.
I've been trying to be "less" negative, but it's my nature so it is kind of hard. I really do love the PC Engine, but whenever something gets too optimistic (all praise, and almost always because of nostalgia and other biased factors - which it usually does in fan-bases like this) I must go in there, and ruin all the fun. I always do this, regardless of what the subject is (video games, music, movies, politics, etc).
Maybe I should keep away from message boards altoghether... and maybe I will, because I'm really getting tired of these things. :P
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And there seems to be a few regular commenters who sound like they actually dislike the Turbo/PCE and think that it sucks in various ways... -but they still hang around here to trash it and all the games on a regular basis.
Oh I know who this is directed at. :wink: Sorry, it's just that I'm a very negative person, and I tend to (tend to, not always) look at things objectively. I'm "hating" games like The Dynastic Hero and Ys Book 1-2, but strictly from an objective plane. I like (to play) these games, but they haven't aged well at all, and they honestly are bad games. DH suffers from some of the worst level designs in video game history, and Ys Book 1-2 (for PC Engine) is the most unbalanced game I have ever played. Just a couple of examples.
I've been trying to be "less" negative, but it's my nature so it is kind of hard. I really do love the PC Engine, but whenever something gets too optimistic (all praise, and almost always because of nostalgia and other biased factors - which it usually does in fan-bases like this) I must go in there, and ruin all the fun. I always do this, regardless of what the subject is (video games, music, movies, politics, etc).
Maybe I should keep away from message boards altoghether... and maybe I will, because I'm really getting tired of these things. :P
Well, I enjoy your posts, even if I sometimes feel obligated to counter your "objective" statements :).
One of the biggest myths is that appreciation for older games is based on "nostalgia"... but in my experience, the folks who make that sort of critique are too lazy to examine the strengths / weaknesses of a game in the appropriate context and resort to generalities instead (i.e. you're a zelous fan, you're blinded by nostalgia, etc.)
But, I'm not trying to start a discussion on that right now (we can make a new thread to discuss the issue of nostalgia and fanboyism and "neutrality" and objectivism and etc.). :)
I would say that, at heart, Seldane has fun playing the role of the antagonist on this board. And that's not a bad thing at all! :)
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And there seems to be a few regular commenters who sound like they actually dislike the Turbo/PCE and think that it sucks in various ways... -but they still hang around here to trash it and all the games on a regular basis.
Oh I know who this is directed at. :wink: Sorry, it's just that I'm a very negative person, and I tend to (tend to, not always) look at things objectively. I'm "hating" games like The Dynastic Hero and Ys Book 1-2, but strictly from an objective plane. I like (to play) these games, but they haven't aged well at all, and they honestly are bad games. DH suffers from some of the worst level designs in video game history, and Ys Book 1-2 (for PC Engine) is the most unbalanced game I have ever played. Just a couple of examples.
I've been trying to be "less" negative, but it's my nature so it is kind of hard. I really do love the PC Engine, but whenever something gets too optimistic (all praise, and almost always because of nostalgia and other biased factors - which it usually does in fan-bases like this) I must go in there, and ruin all the fun. I always do this, regardless of what the subject is (video games, music, movies, politics, etc).
Maybe I should keep away from message boards altoghether... and maybe I will, because I'm really getting tired of these things. :P
I wasn't specifically talking about you. There really are a few different regular posters taking a hard negative slant. But I always take into account who any opinion's are coming from. Good or bad.
Otherwise, I'd have to point out that each time that everything Keranu says is crazy.
But, this is a place for Turbo/PCE fans. By todays "standards", which seems to be judged by the media, all Turbo/PCE games are primitive and ugly and devoid of gameplay. Except when it comes to downloadable stuff like Xbox Live Arcade and Wii, then all of a sudden they're all for "classics" 'cuz they're hardcor3 gamerz.
We're here to share our love of the PC Engine and judge the console and early generations of video games for their time and with a deeper apprecition that has developed over time. We were blinded by technological hype when each generation of games was current, but now we can genuinely appreciate these games for the works of art that they are.
Otherwise, we wouldn't waste our time talking about ancient garbage. My favorite musical genre is heavier fast metal, but I don't hang out in rap/hip hop forums to rant about how lyric centric so much of their "music" is.
Even the modern Ys games or pretty much anything by Falcom are 'technically' crappy by modern standards. If the new Zelda came out as any of the Ys games or any Falcom game in general, but with a Zelda theme, it'd get panned all round.
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Seldane I didn't know you hated Ys I and II? Why do you have Esteria as your location?
Just an acute observation there...:)
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Seldane I didn't know you hated Ys I and II? Why do you have Esteria as your location?
Just an acute observation there...:)
Because I love Ys. I love it for what it is, but I still consider the Ys games pretty bad.
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1) The Sega Collection rocked. Sure, Golden Axe (http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=4&review_id=3505&game_id=16297) was lame, but at least it had nice music. The remake of Space Harrier (http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=4&review_id=3498&game_id=16298) was really fun, and many of the others -- Outrun, Fantasy Zone, Alien Syndrome -- were good enough to justify spending $20 (or less).
2) Recent Sega Ages discs have been absolutely incredible. The remake of Dynamite Deka (http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=4&review_id=5082&game_id=21079) is unbelievably deep, which is surprising because the original was never a deep game. The Space Harrier II Collection is also sweet. It's got Space Harrier 2, but more importantly, it's got EVERY version of the original, except for the 3D remake. It's even got a superplay video of the arcade game.
3) Black_Tiger mentioned that the modern Falcom and Ys games are technically crappy by modern standards... I disagree. Even by modern standards, they're technically excellent: lush, detailed graphics running at nice frame rates (Felghana even ups the resolution from Napishtim), clear and vibrant music, slick controls... the technical aspects are really well-done.
People who seriously complain about the technical aspects in modern Falcom games aren't really complaining about the technical aspects at all. They're complaining about the aesthetics -- they see a game with intentionally old-school sensibilities and assume that it's inferior to the latest FPS or 3rd-person action-adventure. If Falcom tweaked the Felghana graphics engine and used it to create a Devil May Cry style game, I doubt there would be many complaints.
4) You can't just hand Ys 1&2 to anyone and expect a positive reaction, but the belief that it can't appeal to modern gamers is nonsense. It's a REALLY well-done game, and the quality of its music and presentation style can and has impressed people who grew up on the PSX (or later). The other thing that helps Ys 1&2 is that it's actually a really simple game. Modern gamers can sit down and play it without a huge mental investment, which makes it easier for them to keep playing... and the more they play, well, the better it gets.
I know the above to be true because it happened to me. I first played through Ys 1&2 about three years ago, maybe four. I had seen the cinematics a long time ago, but I hadn't ever played the actual game. Just a few weeks ago, an AIM-chat buddy who's just now entering college played through Ys 1&2 for the first time and declared it the best RPG ever.
Yeah, nostalgia is a powerful thing. But sometimes an old game actually does a lot of things right and earns its credit. And some aspects -- such as the excellent musical arrangement by Ryo Yonemitsu -- remain technically excellent in any generation.
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I agree with Seldane on Ys. I've always thought the gameplay was pretty clunky. The story/setting/presentation were what made Ys special.
Another thread on nostalgia versus genuine enjoyment and appreciation of older games would be interesting. :twisted: I've certainly been thinking a lot about that subject lately with the next generation of consoles arriving.
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Black_Tiger mentioned that the modern Falcom and Ys games are technically crappy by modern standards... I disagree. Even by modern standards, they're technically excellent: lush, detailed graphics running at nice frame rates (Felghana even ups the resolution from Napishtim), clear and vibrant music, slick controls... the technical aspects are really well-done.
People who seriously complain about the technical aspects in modern Falcom games aren't really complaining about the technical aspects at all. They're complaining about the aesthetics -- they see a game with intentionally old-school sensibilities and assume that it's inferior to the latest FPS or 3rd-person action-adventure. If Falcom tweaked the Felghana graphics engine and used it to create a Devil May Cry style game, I doubt there would be many complaints.
By modern standards, I was refering to the hypocritical way that proffessional game reviewers and a lot of younger gamers judge games.
Classic or "traditional" leaning games often are dismissed as too simple or unoriginal, while the 30th rehash of a modern button masher, pseudo-movie or barely interactive RPG are praised as revolutions. Especially if they have the biggest budget 3D visuals.
And anything featuring any kind of 2D graphics is commented on with "if you can get past the SNES graphics".
They even complain if a non-uber-series game has a fire/lava area and/or a snow/ice area, -but only if the game takes place in many different types of areas, and not just a fire/lava area or just a snow/ice area.
If Falcom tweaked the Felghana graphics engine and used it to create a Devil May Cry style game, I doubt there would be many complaints.
-this is exactly my point.
I agree with Seldane on Ys. I've always thought the gameplay was pretty clunky. The story/setting/presentation were what made Ys special.
Although I love the aesthetics and story(especially before it was fleshed out) of the Ys series, I'll always love the enemy ramming gameplay.
It's all in how it's done. I loved Ys on SMS, but didn't really like Hydlide on NES and I've only grown fonder of the original Ys games as time passes.
I don't hate innovation though and think that The Legend Of Xanadu II was the perfect evolution from Ys.
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I agree with Seldane on Ys. I've always thought the gameplay was pretty clunky. The story/setting/presentation were what made Ys special.
That wouldn't make it a bad game, though, which is what Seldane called it. A great game doesn't have to be great in every way. So-so gameplay + superior setting + superior presentation can add up to "true classic".
That being said, I wouldn't call the gameplay "clunky". Primitive and straightforward, yeah, but the hit detection and character speed were fine and felt reasonably natural. We also need to remember that gameplay means more than "controls". Some of the fights in Ys were pretty ingenious. Also, the entirety of Darm Tower was some great gameplay.
Now, Night Creatures is something I would call clunky :wink:
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I'm "hating" games like The Dynastic Hero and Ys Book 1-2, but strictly from an objective plane. I like (to play) these games, but they haven't aged well at all, and they honestly are bad games.
Sorry, folks, but Seldane is absolutely right about this. Speaking OBJECTIVELY, there is no doubt that "classics" like Dynastic Hero, Ys Book I & II, and Zelda III are horrible video games.
There was a Cosmic Fantasy 2 thread going a week or two ago, and some guy posted in it that Zelda III was "2D perfection," or something along those lines. I grieved for that fellow because he was clearly letting nostalgia distort his view of an archaic piece of junk.
It's sad how people can't admit that, objectively, old favorites make for modern trash. It's a good thing that there are guys like Seldane and me around to straighten them out.
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I'm "hating" games like The Dynastic Hero and Ys Book 1-2, but strictly from an objective plane. I like (to play) these games, but they haven't aged well at all, and they honestly are bad games.
Sorry, folks, but Seldane is absolutely right about this. Speaking OBJECTIVELY, there is no doubt that "classics" like Dynastic Hero, Ys Book I & II, and Zelda III are horrible video games.
There was a Cosmic Fantasy 2 thread going a week or two ago, and some guy posted in it that Zelda III was "2D perfection," or something along those lines. I grieved for that fellow because he was clearly letting nostalgia distort his view of an archaic piece of junk.
It's sad how people can't admit that, objectively, old favorites make for modern trash. It's a good thing that there are guys like Seldane and me around to straighten them out.
I partially agree. Which is why I said that the first time I played Ys I thought it was shit.
I grew up with a Turbo Grafx, however up until I was 27 (im 29 now) I had only been a Hucard Gamer. Once I bought my Duo-R off of DLite I went ahead and went back to buy the games I couldnt own as a child. So by that time I had owned everything up till Xbox. However, I let the game grow on me, and I overlooked the old school in it. For me it had nothing to do with Nostalgia.
I am looking forward to getting the Wonder Boy games from Sega, and since I love Ys now Im gonna go for the PC Complete version so I can use that English Patch.
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I disagree with Runinruder. Zelda 3 has always been shit.
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Lots of good posts in this thread. Since I'm too lazy to go back and make a indepth thread, I would just like to comment that there are tons of games I love on the Turbo, whether they be great classics like Ys, or mega cheese like It Came From the Desert, it had nothing to do with nostalgia for me because I was never near a Turbo Grafx 16 growing up. Now games like Insector X for Genesis was for nostalgic for me and people who talk to me online know I have a deep nostalgic passion for that game and have had to defend my liking for it many times :D . Go here (http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/keranu_insectorx/index.html) for more info :P .
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Lots of good posts in this thread. Since I'm too lazy to go back and make a indepth thread, I would just like to comment that there are tons of games I love on the Turbo, whether they be great classics like Ys, or mega cheese like It Came From the Desert, it had nothing to do with nostalgia for me because I was never near a Turbo Grafx 16 growing up. Now games like Insector X for Genesis was for nostalgic for me and people who talk to me online know I have a deep nostalgic passion for that game and have had to defend my liking for it many times :D . Go here (http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/keranu_insectorx/index.html) for more info :P .
Yeah but you love crappy games don't you? :wink: (As do I, might I add.)
I'd also like to say that I don't play a lot of modern games. I (mostly) don't compare old games to new ones, either. But seriously: If you compare an old (original) game to a new (original) game, it is pretty interesting to see how much things have evolved, and how bad the older games generally were.
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http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3877&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2
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http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3877&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2
Awesome man, I was really hoping that Monster World IV would make it in. And it looks like it'll be worthwhile to buy since it supports 480p, -but it had better not filter the graphics(I'm still worried about Capcom Classic Col Vol 2 after what happened to Vol 1) without an option to turn it off.
I like how the author of the preview went on about MWI, but was really talking about two different games.
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He he, that guy claims Hudson developed Wonder Boy. :roll: Ever heard of Escape/Westone?
Also - he claims Monster World IV got released in North America as Wonder Boy VI. Another lie!
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He he, that guy claims Hudson developed Wonder Boy. :roll: Ever heard of Escape/Westone?
Also - he claims Monster World IV got released in North America as Wonder Boy VI. Another lie!
To be fair, he did say "the first Wonder Boy was (kind of) developed by Hudson".
And it sounds like he, like most regular casual gamers, simply has never heard of MWIV and assumes that it must be the game in his mind(MWIII) that came out on Genesis as WBV... which he goes on to call WBVI.
Which is understandable, since the series' family tree and title naming is so convoluted(Adventure Island = Wonderboy 1 as well as Wonderboy 3).
I started work on a easy to follow Wonderboy family tree graphic, but never finished. Maybe I'll try finishing it off today.
I hope that the collection includes MWIII for Sega
Master System, a game that many people familiar with MWIV have never heard off.
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Now if only they re-released Dynastic Hero.
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Now if only they re-released Dynastic Hero.
It would be cool to get a multi-language WB-alias collection or at the very least, all the PC Engine titles in one package.
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Monster World III was released on both Mega Drive as well. It is the same game as the Master System version, but with better graphics.
Also, I still can't accept his "almost developed" by Hudson remark, as it is completely and utterly untrue. Hudson ported the game to Famicom, but that is all. They had nothing to do with the original game.
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Yeah I also wouldn't mind seeing Dragon's Curse redone.
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Was the SMS Wonder boy 3 ever ported to the PCE? I thought it was (on CD even!) but the gameplay video I've seen doesn't look like Dragon's trap.
[edit]: Imadumas. Confusingly, it's called Adventure Island on PCE. My head hurts; please work on that chart thingamabob.
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Was the SMS Wonder boy 3 ever ported to the PCE? I thought it was (on CD even!) but the gameplay video I've seen doesn't look like Dragon's trap.
You want Dragon's Curse (at least released on the TG-16 on HuCard/TurboChip). The PCE version has a different name. Although I only own Dragon's Trap on SMS so I can 100% confirm. :P
Wonder Boy III on CD was the sort of shooting game. I remember seeing that version of "Wonder Boy III" in the arcades, it might have had the same name.
Yay, confusing names. :P
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Wonder Boy III is a platformer/shooter hybrid. It was released on both Mega Drive and PC Engine. There is no Wonder Boy 2. :roll:
Contrary to popular belief, the Monster World games are not related to Wonder Boy OR Adventure Island. They share some similiarities design-wise (level design and graphics) and they were developed by the same company (Westone) but that is about it. Some (idiot) decided to name all the games Wonder Boy when they got released outside of Japan. Just because, you know, cause some confusion.
These are all the Monster World games and what they got released as outside of Japan:
Monster World
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster Land
PC Engine - Bikkuriman World (never released outside of Japan)
(I believe this game got released on various other crap systems not worth mentioning.)
Monster World II
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap
PC Engine - Dragon's Curse
Monster World III
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster World
Sega Mega Drive - Wonder Boy in Monster World
PC Engine - The Dynastic Hero
Monster World IV
Sega Mega Drive - Monster World IV (never released outside of Japan)
Monster World III and IV (MD versions, of course) got released on seperate CD-ROMs for Windows a few years ago. These are not remakes or anything but just emulated versions of the games. They got delivered in regular jewel cases. Westone went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Big surprise. :roll:
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Wonder Boy III is a platformer/shooter hybrid. It was released on both Mega Drive and PC Engine. There is no Wonder Boy 2. :roll:
Contrary to popular belief, the Monster World games are not related to Wonder Boy OR Adventure Island. They share some similiarities design-wise (level design and graphics) and they were developed by the same company (Westone) but that is about it. Some (idiot) decided to name all the games Wonder Boy when they got released outside of Japan. Just because, you know, cause some confusion.
Well, I own the Sega Mark III version of the original Monster World, and some (japanese) idiot decided to label it Super Wonderboy Monster World, just like all the english versions which kept the Wonderboy monicker.
Plus, it clearly says Wonder Boy across the title screen of the original Monster Land.
(http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/img/wbmlj.gif)
And the japanese version of Monster World III actually establishes the numerical value of the Wonderboy sequals(after two III's)-
(http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/img/mwiii.gif)
And although it's obvious that Wonderboy has different gameplay than Monster World, they are part of the same series, which is why there are Wonderboy refferences and nods throughout the Monster World games.
The main one that ties them together is the jesus'y ultimate weapon from the 'legendary warrior' (or whatever) in MWIII/WBV which is the crude tomahawk from Wonderboy.
And the hero and heroine from Dynastic Hero were clearly designed as throwbacks to the main characters Wonderboy III. And the last boss in Wonderboy III is the main character from Monster Land/World.
These are all the Monster World games and what they got released as outside of Japan:
Monster World
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster Land
PC Engine - Bikkuriman World (never released outside of Japan)
(I believe this game got released on various other crap systems not worth mentioning.)
Monster World II
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap
PC Engine - Dragon's Curse
Monster World III
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster World
Sega Mega Drive - Wonder Boy in Monster World
PC Engine - The Dynastic Hero
Monster World IV
Sega Mega Drive - Monster World IV (never released outside of Japan)
Monster World III and IV (MD versions, of course) got released on seperate CD-ROMs for Windows a few years ago. These are not remakes or anything but just emulated versions of the games. They got delivered in regular jewel cases. Westone went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Big surprise. :roll:
Monster World II was also released for Game Gear (a platform worth mentioning) and the graphics were resized. I haven't played through it to see if anything else was changed(it does have a cool title screen though). I don't know if this game was ever released for Sega Mark III, since I can't find a rom for it, but I Turma da Monica and WBIII SMS use FM music.