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Title: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: esteban on August 18, 2016, 03:43:04 AM
I don't really want to be too specific about this topic... and I may actually kill it with the first post.

Valis II was the earliest Valis entry on PCE for years... until a port of Valis I was released for PCE (years later). Valis I appeared on numerous platforms (Famicom, PC's) but folks outside of Japan only had access to Valis I on Genesis. So, TG-CD owners would have to look to Genesis for  the first installment f the Valis saga.

Rayxanmber II is the earliest PCE entry in the series... the first game was on FM Marty?

Time Cruise II was originally just Time Cruise, but it evolved and changed over the years. I think it was a wise move because a "sequel" implies a successful first entry... and it gives a fresh veneer to a project in development for years (?). 

Strip Fighter II was obviously riding on the success of Street Fighter II.

Final Zone II was a sequel to X68000 and MD/Genesis FZ I.   FZII is unique because PCE/TG-CD was the only platform it appeared on? Correct?


So, not that anyone cares, but I find this stuff interesting. Am I forgetting anything?

Feel free to expand the scope of the original topic in creative ways (like, PCE games that have sequels on other platforms... like Cho Aniki?)
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: lukester on August 18, 2016, 03:48:34 AM
Legend of Valkyrie was a sequel to a famicom game.

Galaga 88 is another one.

1943 Kai was an update to 1943
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: bob on August 18, 2016, 04:04:20 AM
after burner 2
terra cresta 2
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Necromancer on August 18, 2016, 04:13:10 AM
Double Dragon II

Fatal Fury 2

Dragon Knight II - like with the Valis series, the first game (Dragon Knight and Graffiti) didn't come out until years later.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Black Tiger on August 18, 2016, 04:47:50 AM
Exile
Bikkuriman World
Detana Twinbee
World Heroes 2
Shockman
Rainbow Islands
Super Star Soldier
Body Conquest
Son Son II
Dracula X
Neo Generation II
Angels 2
Cal 2
Beyond Shadowgate
Impossamole
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: gheebee on August 18, 2016, 05:53:42 AM
New Adventure Island
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: bob on August 18, 2016, 06:21:40 AM
Exile
Bikkuriman World
Detana Twinbee
World Heroes 2
Shockman
Rainbow Islands
Super Star Soldier
Body Conquest
Son Son II
Dracula X
Neo Generation II
Angels 2
Cal 2
Beyond Shadowgate
Impossamole

i am ashamed i didnt think of shadowgate.
what is exile a sequel of?
Title: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: esteban on August 18, 2016, 06:31:47 AM
First: Yay! I love all the titles you folks posted.



ANSWER:

XZR -> XZR2 (Exile) -> XZR3 (Astyanax) -> XZR (VCR)

Be kind.
Rewind.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: blueraven on August 18, 2016, 07:14:09 AM
You're forgetting:

Son Son II ... aka revenge of HANUMAN

And as far as US games that never saw the JP predecessors (and were thusly mislabeled for US Audiences)

Shockman
Samurai Ghost
Cosmic Fantasy 2 (.....CF1? or 3&4?)
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Punch on August 18, 2016, 09:35:07 AM
XZR -> XZR2 (Exile) -> XZR3 (Astyanax) -> XZR (VCR)


For years I wondered wtf XZR stood for until I actually looked at the kana title that comes with it in boxarts.
XZR -> Ex-Zee-Ar ≈> EkuZiAru ≈> エグザイル -> Eguzairu -> Exile

(http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/genesis/congraturations.gif)

What does this have to do with this thread? Absolutely nothing.
Hey, we only got the third A-Train on the PCE.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Black Tiger on August 18, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
A III
Romance of the Three Kingdoms 3
Genghis Khan 2
Black Hole Assault
Daimakaimura
1941 CA
Kyukyoko Tiger
Pac Land
Xevious
Final Lap Twin
Hatris
Hyper Nova Blast
John Madden Duo CD Football
Lode Runner LL
Rastan Saga II
Shin Megami Tensei
Xevious FS
Zipang


More where did they cone from Turbo games:

Cosmic Fantasy 2
M&MIII
Parasol Stars
Samurai Ghost
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Bonknuts on August 18, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
XZR -> XZR2 (Exile) -> XZR3 (Astyanax) -> XZR (VCR)


For years I wondered wtf XZR stood for until I actually looked at the kana title that comes with it in boxarts.
XZR -> Ex-Zee-Ar ≈> EkuZiAru ≈> エグザイル -> Eguzairu -> Exile

(http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/genesis/congraturations.gif)

What does this have to do with this thread? Absolutely nothing.
Hey, we only got the third A-Train on the PCE.

Thanks for this! I always wondered about that as well.
Title: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: esteban on August 18, 2016, 10:25:12 AM
Hyper Nova Blast!

Good call on that, Tigre_Noir!

(French Canadian)
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: spenoza on August 18, 2016, 02:44:01 PM
Rainbow Islands

Dammit, late on that one.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Necromancer on August 19, 2016, 02:42:10 AM
I wouldn't say Hatris or Hypernova Blast are sequels.  The former is just another falling brick game from the same guy and the latter is more of a slightly upgraded port.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Black Tiger on August 19, 2016, 12:23:45 PM
I wouldn't say Hatris or Hypernova Blast are sequels.  The former is just another falling brick game from the same guy and the latter is more of a slightly upgraded port.

Hatris was the only way for the real creator of Tetris to make a sequel. If Liquid Kids, Phantasy Star II, Son Son II, Super Mario Bros 2 USA, Vasteel 2, etc count as sequels, then Hatris might as well.

I do think that many games are both enough of a sequel and a remake and consider them within the realm of both.

Hyper Nova Blast has the full effect of the thread's subject, in that most Turbo players are unaware of the original game. It's similar to Star Soldier/Super Star Soldier.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: henrycsc on August 21, 2016, 04:27:53 PM
How about these?
Terrestrial Defense Force 2
Linda 3
Might and Magic III
Wonder Boy III  (or for that matter Adventure Island)
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Black Tiger on August 21, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
I don't think that Linda was ever square(d) or to the power of one.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Punch on August 21, 2016, 05:47:59 PM

Hatris was the only way for the real creator of Tetris to make a sequel.

How about Welltris? I'm pretty sure he could say TETRIS II if he wanted to since he owns the copyright for anything with the "tris" suffix in puzzle games as far as I know
Title: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: esteban on August 22, 2016, 12:16:15 AM
I don't think that Linda was ever square(d) or to the power of one.


(http://archives.tg-16.com/images/linda2.png)
(http://archives.tg-16.com/images/linda3.png)


You can punch me. :)

I need to add info about the different UPCs (?) or was it catalog number? Catalog number...

http://archives.tg-16.com/Dengeki_PC_Engine_1995_11.htm#linda_squared

I am still debating if lame, corny gags do more harm than good... 

...but I will still perpetuate them, sadly.


UPDATE: Ouch! That hurt... :(
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: GaijinD on August 22, 2016, 10:14:32 AM

Hatris was the only way for the real creator of Tetris to make a sequel.

How about Welltris? I'm pretty sure he could say TETRIS II if he wanted to since he owns the copyright for anything with the "tris" suffix in puzzle games as far as I know

The rights didn't revert to Pajitnov until '96. Back when Hatris was made Tetris was owned by the Russian government. Communism and all that.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Bonknuts on August 22, 2016, 11:12:32 AM
I don't think that Linda was ever square(d) or to the power of one.
Linda to the  power of one is pretty linear.
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Necromancer on August 22, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
Linda to the  power of one is pretty linear.

Ha!  Graphic function jokes.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Vimtoman on August 22, 2016, 11:23:17 AM
How about Parasol Stars
Title: Re: Sequels on PCE "without" Part I
Post by: Bonknuts on August 22, 2016, 05:52:02 PM
Linda to the  power of one is pretty linear.

Ha!  Graphic function jokes.  :mrgreen:
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