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Title: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on October 16, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
I still can't post attachments!
Anyway, I had a couple auctions end today and the zero feedback bidder hasn't answered emails (I emailed him several days ago) so I know where this is going.
Anyway, anyone interested in buying some games? Or trading?

I'm looking for:

Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
Aero Blasters CIB
Legend Of Hero Tonma CIB

I'm looking to make room so I'll give good deals if you buy a few games at a time!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112166194145?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112166277006?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112166250933?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on October 16, 2016, 10:47:12 AM
so there is some "zero feedback" buyer out there that is bidding on your auctions and not paying?
i will add another one of yours that mysteriously has been relisted after mr. zero feedback didnt pay...

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112166184694

my spidey sense is tingling with suspected shenanigans.
you list three, plus mine is 4.  i doubt you got hosed on 4 auctions for these games.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on October 16, 2016, 11:11:41 AM
What is that fishy smell?
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: blueraven on October 16, 2016, 11:27:58 AM
Hot Tuna.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on October 16, 2016, 11:32:34 AM
The Duo lot was cancelled.
The 3 I listed here were all the same buyer.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on October 16, 2016, 11:44:36 AM
The Duo lot was cancelled.
The 3 I listed here were all the same buyer.

is the "duo lot" the one that sold for 710?
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on October 16, 2016, 11:49:08 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Keith Courage on October 16, 2016, 11:59:14 AM
you know that there is a way to give an offer to the second highest bidder right? I've had to do this a couple of times myself when a highest bidder didn't communicate or pay for anything.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: eproxy on October 16, 2016, 12:06:58 PM
Can you list prices? if your going to offer them up here
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on October 16, 2016, 12:20:24 PM
Yes.

so thats the one you just responded to me on ebay saying a "zero feedback buyer" wasnt paying.
so to me, that sounds just like the other 3 you listed.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on October 16, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
I smell something fishy.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on October 16, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
I smell something fishy.

Close your legs  :lol:
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on October 16, 2016, 03:11:05 PM
I smell something fishy.

Close your legs  :lol:

I gotta scrub down there.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: blueraven on October 16, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
I smell something fishy.

Close your legs  :lol:

I gotta scrub down there.

Use soap.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: jonebone on October 16, 2016, 11:56:55 PM
To the conspiracy theorist, I wouldn't be so quick with those accusations.  If someone is going to shill their own auctions then the second place bidder would be the 0 feedback guy, not the winner.  You'd also see the 0 feedback guy have a ton of bids, slowly and incrementally pushing the other bidder up.

I suspected these wouldn't be paid for though, they went WAY higher than I'd think.  Especially with condition considered.

Having said that, I'm interested in a few, sending PM.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on October 17, 2016, 04:46:46 AM
Nobody said it was shill bidding, but it certainly could be.  It's dead simple to set a shill max bid at the seller's reserve price, making it so the shill will automatically slightly outbid anyone up to that price and ending with a no sale if the 'reserve' isn't met.

But I'm more concerned that he canceled the 'duo lot' for seemingly no reason and has multiple feedbacks where he refused to ship something honestly won and paid for.  I'd definitely be leery of buying from this guy.

As for why he didn't go with the second place winner, it's because he'd have to be willing to settle for far less money for the first two lots ($432.23 less on the Splatterhouse etc. lot and $172.50 less on the Riot Zone etc. lot), though the third lot would presumably sell to the sniper for a mere $5 less.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on October 17, 2016, 04:57:22 AM

But I'm more concerned that he canceled the 'duo lot' for seemingly no reason and has multiple feedbacks where he refused to ship something honestly won and paid for.  I'd definitely be leery of buying from this guy.


lol... you are responding to jonne.

anyway, i am not sure about the difference in "cancel" vs. the other listings.
he wrote back to me on ebay that it was "cancelled" because zero-feedback buyer wasnt paying.
just like the other listings
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: blueraven on October 17, 2016, 05:13:56 AM
the game is afoot
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on October 17, 2016, 05:19:46 AM
But the 'duo lot' wasn't won by the zero feedback guy.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on October 17, 2016, 06:02:51 AM
But the 'duo lot' wasn't won by the zero feedback guy.

but zero-feedback was second highest bidder.
i never looked at the bid history, but this now makes it more suspect that he told me it was cancelled because zero feedback wasnt paying.

and THEN he relisted the lot.
so.........
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: xelement5x on October 17, 2016, 07:16:51 AM
How many doll hairs for Deep Blue? 

I can also trade in cat whiskers, I have been hoarding them for years.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esadajr on October 17, 2016, 07:36:01 AM
PM sent on the hot tuna
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: blueraven on October 17, 2016, 07:42:19 AM
PM sent on the hot tuna

I have teh rarez Japanese version of the album. Here is the preview!



It will probably be lukewarm by the time I FedEx it to you esadajr
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: blueraven on October 17, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
PM sent on the hot tuna


I have teh rarez Japanese version of the album. Here is the preview!
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: dallaspattern on October 17, 2016, 04:17:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDMrncAy4U
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: LETMEINPLEASE on October 18, 2016, 02:12:58 PM
So how are you selling games from these lots if they are currently back up on ebay? You made your post the same day the lots ended the first time. So you just knew someone wasnt going to pay you and decided to post here but then also relisted all the lots at the same time? And the 0 feedback new bidder has 75% bid activity with you.... Sure seems like someone is gonna get fuked here.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Lost Monkey on October 18, 2016, 03:39:23 PM
So how are you selling games from these lots if they are currently back up on ebay? You made your post the same day the lots ended the first time. So you just knew someone wasnt going to pay you and decided to post here but then also relisted all the lots at the same time? And the 0 feedback new bidder has 75% bid activity with you.... Sure seems like someone is gonna get fuked here.

It was 100% until a couple of hours ago...

Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on October 18, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
Fishy smell is fishy...
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Dreamstate on October 19, 2016, 01:17:21 AM
Ban this dude.  Definitely a scammer!
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: LETMEINPLEASE on October 19, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
So how are you selling games from these lots if they are currently back up on ebay? You made your post the same day the lots ended the first time. So you just knew someone wasnt going to pay you and decided to post here but then also relisted all the lots at the same time? And the 0 feedback new bidder has 75% bid activity with you.... Sure seems like someone is gonna get fuked here.

It was 100% until a couple of hours ago...

Lol nice.

Too bad, cause this douche has some nice games
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: MrBroadway on October 19, 2016, 03:44:11 PM
To the conspiracy theorist, I wouldn't be so quick with those accusations.  If someone is going to shill their own auctions then the second place bidder would be the 0 feedback guy, not the winner.  You'd also see the 0 feedback guy have a ton of bids, slowly and incrementally pushing the other bidder up.

I suspected these wouldn't be paid for though, they went WAY higher than I'd think.  Especially with condition considered.

Having said that, I'm interested in a few, sending PM.
Not necessarily. Often a strategy is employed to outbid the next highest bidder and then offer that person the price at their highest, which it might not have otherwise got to if bidding was normal.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: drewbrim on October 26, 2016, 12:23:52 PM
Third time's the charm...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112183083865
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: MrBroadway on November 03, 2016, 12:49:53 PM
Third time's the charm...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112183083865

Still doesn't say he sold it on ebay. Probably accepted a lower offer.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: jonebone on November 04, 2016, 05:14:36 AM
I guess that TG16 lot did sell for $792 the second time around. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-16-CIB-lot-Splatterhouse-Blazing-Lazers-Legendary-Axe-2-II-Bomberman-/112170450271

This guy clearly bought them and is listing them one by one, his feedback matches up too.

Doesn't seem to be much profit in it so I'm not sure what he was thinking.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/gopher1599/m.html?item=332022671415
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: xelement5x on November 04, 2016, 05:35:01 AM
I guess that TG16 lot did sell for $792 the second time around. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-16-CIB-lot-Splatterhouse-Blazing-Lazers-Legendary-Axe-2-II-Bomberman-/112170450271

This guy clearly bought them and is listing them one by one, his feedback matches up too.

Doesn't seem to be much profit in it so I'm not sure what he was thinking.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/gopher1599/m.html?item=332022671415


Maybe he bought it and is having regrets after it all showed up on his door.  Or maybe he's only keeping a couple and reselling the rest. 
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: jonebone on November 04, 2016, 05:44:32 AM
I guess that TG16 lot did sell for $792 the second time around. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-16-CIB-lot-Splatterhouse-Blazing-Lazers-Legendary-Axe-2-II-Bomberman-/112170450271

This guy clearly bought them and is listing them one by one, his feedback matches up too.

Doesn't seem to be much profit in it so I'm not sure what he was thinking.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/gopher1599/m.html?item=332022671415


Maybe he bought it and is having regrets after it all showed up on his door.  Or maybe he's only keeping a couple and reselling the rest.


He seems to have listed every single one though, go figure.  It's not like they were in nice condition and he's keeping upgrades and selling dupes either, not sure.  I recognized it because I was looking for a nice Ninja Spirit and this one has a gigantic tear on the back of the box.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on November 04, 2016, 05:45:58 AM
Flippers gonna flip.  If he gets all his BIN prices, he'd clear about 20% after subtracting 15% for fees.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Gypsy on November 04, 2016, 08:16:32 AM
Flippers gonna flip.  If he gets all his BIN prices, he'd clear about 20% after subtracting 15% for fees.

Maybe I'm just lazy but I don't see the appeal in this kind of grinding.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on November 04, 2016, 08:21:58 AM
he's selling the cookie in the middle of a nintendoage circle jerk.

the cookie (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Factory-Seaded-VGA-Graded-Tetris-Tengen-Nintendo-NES-1989-/232070737593?hash=item36087e6eb9:g:RegAAOSweW5U-yEN)

Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on November 04, 2016, 08:24:39 AM
Maybe I'm just lazy but I don't see the appeal in this kind of grinding.

Me neither.  I have a real job..... and can still look at myself in the mirror every morning.  :lol:
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on November 04, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
That Splatterhouse and Ninja Spirit I had were ROUGH. Hey, if he makes a few bucks off me, whatever.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: LETMEINPLEASE on November 04, 2016, 06:50:47 PM
Maybe I'm just lazy but I don't see the appeal in this kind of grinding.

Me neither.  I have a real job..... and can still look at myself in the mirror every morning.  :lol:

 :clap:
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on January 28, 2017, 02:32:42 AM
careful.  another shill auction where a 0 feedback buyer will probably win, then cancel, and force a relisting.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112284373955
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Gypsy on January 28, 2017, 03:23:25 AM
careful.  another shill auction where a 0 feedback buyer will probably win, then cancel, and force a relisting.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112284373955


It would be extra funny now considering you are predicting it.

Also Panic Bomber feels out of place in that lot. Love Panic Bomber.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: gex on January 28, 2017, 04:06:50 AM
careful.  another shill auction where a 0 feedback buyer will probably win, then cancel, and force a relisting.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112284373955



Thanks for sharing, another seller added to my ignore list
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on January 28, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
Someone pass the tin hat please
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on February 07, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
lol.  nailed it.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112296417071
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Sparky on February 07, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
lol.  nailed it.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112296417071


Hahaha.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Lost Monkey on February 07, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
lol.  nailed it.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112296417071


Good call... can't say I am surprised based on the previous history there...
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on February 08, 2017, 12:16:17 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112296417071?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649

Tin hats with aluminum antenna for everyone!

You do realize that non-paying bidders (especially with video games) are pretty common right?

Maybe it was you that won the auction to prove your "point" *x-files theme*
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Gypsy on February 08, 2017, 01:48:20 AM
You do realize that non-paying bidders (especially with video games) are pretty common right?

Define pretty common. I've had it happen maybe 2-3 times over the course of 500+ online sales. That's less than 1%.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: kosko99 on February 08, 2017, 01:54:15 AM
Dafuq did I see
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Lost Monkey on February 08, 2017, 04:08:50 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112296417071?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649

Tin hats with aluminum antenna for everyone!

You do realize that non-paying bidders (especially with video games) are pretty common right?



That is not true.  End of story.  Also untrue is that you can determine a NPB in that short of a time...
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on February 08, 2017, 05:03:51 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112296417071?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649

Tin hats with aluminum antenna for everyone!

You do realize that non-paying bidders (especially with video games) are pretty common right?



That is not true.  End of story.  Also untrue is that you can determine a NPB in that short of a time...


He told me he couldn't pay.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on February 08, 2017, 05:05:45 AM
You do realize that non-paying bidders (especially with video games) are pretty common right?

Define pretty common. I've had it happen maybe 2-3 times over the course of 500+ online sales. That's less than 1%.

You're pretty lucky. Happens to me probably 1 out of every 50 or 60 sales. Maybe not pretty common but it happens.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Otaking on February 08, 2017, 05:39:41 AM
Non paying bidders I find depends on what country the bidder is from, I found that bidders from specific countries are much, much more likely to back out from following through with payment.
At one point I was getting so many from one specific country I just had to close my auctions to that country which I really didn't want to do.
Bidders from USA and UK I found very, very rarely didn't follow through with payment, it happened around 1 in 500-1000 transactions.
But yes Green's auctions are very suspicious and also why didn't he offer second chance offers to the next highest bidders in the original auction? that is normally what happens in the rare occurrence the highest bidder backs out.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on February 08, 2017, 07:09:22 AM
... why didn't he offer second chance offers to the next highest bidders in the original auction?

Because the second place shill didn't want to pay either?
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Green on February 08, 2017, 07:23:11 AM
Non paying bidders I find depends on what country the bidder is from, I found that bidders from specific countries are much, much more likely to back out from following through with payment.
At one point I was getting so many from one specific country I just had to close my auctions to that country which I really didn't want to do.
Bidders from USA and UK I found very, very rarely didn't follow through with payment, it happened around 1 in 500-1000 transactions.
But yes Green's auctions are very suspicious and also why didn't he offer second chance offers to the next highest bidders in the original auction? that is normally what happens in the rare occurrence the highest bidder backs out.

Of course I offered this. I find people usually don't buy it if they are given a second chance. Just my experience.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Lost Monkey on February 08, 2017, 07:34:35 AM
... why didn't he offer second chance offers to the next highest bidders in the original auction?

Because the second place shill didn't want to pay either?

The 2nd bidder doesn't have to be a shill, that can be the numbnuts collectard you are trolling for... Once they realize that they were bidding against someone who wasn't going to pay, they MIGHT have the brains to turn down the offer.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on February 08, 2017, 07:40:34 AM
the strategy is painfully obvious at this point.  all his OMG R@R3Z have seen the same fate.
start low to entice bids
shill like you mean it!
see where it ends
relist with stupid high BIN
cross fingers
rinse/repeat
defend self on forums cuz this happens "all the time"

i mean come on, you happen to have 4 or 5 turbo related auctions turn out like this?  It's fun to jest, but at this point, you are just insulting the forum.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Necromancer on February 08, 2017, 07:49:46 AM
The 2nd bidder doesn't have to be a shill, that can be the numbnuts collectard you are trolling for... Once they realize that they were bidding against someone who wasn't going to pay, they MIGHT have the brains to turn down the offer.

There's no lulz in logic.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: ChuChu Flamingo on February 08, 2017, 05:33:16 PM
There are no second chances when trying to 1cc shilling.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: jonebone on February 10, 2017, 12:50:27 AM
I think it's just bad luck on this part.  I had a $900 snipe that didn't register on the $909 CIB lot and I would have paid.  I felt like I was stretching a bit on condition but the vast majority of the CIB TG16 games I see are beat.  Can't comment on the other lot but the CIB lot was valid and I definitely would have paid if the winner backed out.
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: bob on February 10, 2017, 03:40:36 AM
I think it's just bad luck on this part.  I had a $900 snipe that didn't register on the $909 CIB lot and I would have paid.  I felt like I was stretching a bit on condition but the vast majority of the CIB TG16 games I see are beat.  Can't comment on the other lot but the CIB lot was valid and I definitely would have paid if the winner backed out.

crazytown
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Lost Monkey on February 10, 2017, 04:52:22 AM
I think it's just bad luck on this part.  I had a $900 snipe that didn't register on the $909 CIB lot and I would have paid.  I felt like I was stretching a bit on condition but the vast majority of the CIB TG16 games I see are beat.  Can't comment on the other lot but the CIB lot was valid and I definitely would have paid if the winner backed out.

Just like madboom got your back or somethin'...
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: xelement5x on February 13, 2017, 04:43:27 AM
Non paying bidders I find depends on what country the bidder is from, I found that bidders from specific countries are much, much more likely to back out from following through with payment.
At one point I was getting so many from one specific country I just had to close my auctions to that country which I really didn't want to do.
Bidders from USA and UK I found very, very rarely didn't follow through with payment, it happened around 1 in 500-1000 transactions.
But yes Green's auctions are very suspicious and also why didn't he offer second chance offers to the next highest bidders in the original auction? that is normally what happens in the rare occurrence the highest bidder backs out.

Of course I offered this. I find people usually don't buy it if they are given a second chance. Just my experience.

You know why people normally back out on a second chance? It's because they don't want to pay their max bid to win an action where the price reached their limit just because some jerk put in a huge number and didn't pay shouldn't mean I need to pay my max bid (plus many sellers have abused it in this fashion just to get max monies).

If someone offers me a "second-chance" I tell them I am interested, but I'm not going to pay my max.  I'll pay the amount I bid + the next increment before the "winning" non-paying buyer showed up and started a bid war that they weren't going to pay. 

And you know what most sellers say?  "I would rather relist the auction. I think it will go for more than that."
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on February 13, 2017, 05:51:58 AM
There are no second chances when trying to 1cc shilling.


Hahahhahahhahaha.

This is how you successfully 1CC Schilling...


SRSLY
Title: Re: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: Warbucks on February 13, 2017, 11:54:43 AM
There are no second chances when trying to 1cc shilling.


Hahahhahahhahaha.

This is how you successfully 1CC Schilling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Hs2AQwDgA

SRSLY



I love that song lol... the german version of the song kicks ass too
Title: FS CIB and CIC TG16 games
Post by: esteban on February 15, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
There are no second chances when trying to 1cc shilling.


Hahahhahahhahaha.

This is how you successfully 1CC Schilling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Hs2AQwDgA

SRSLY



I love that song lol... the german version of the song kicks ass too


I love that damn song, too. I still have the 7" single I've owned since I was a little kid in the 80's.

Yes, the b-side is the GERMAN LANGUAGE version. I think this was pretty common, back in the day, since I have German version for a bunch of singles (Nena's 99 Luftballoons, for example...)

What's funny is that I can't remember, off hand, if any of my Falco records have German versions....

NOTE: I know very little German, from my grandparents.